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rkha...@adnc.com

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While raiding Ishimaru Soft One's two stores(in Akihabara) a couple
of days ago, I noticed a bunch of what appear to be concert
recordings of Bruckner symphonies on labels that are
(except for "Bells of St. Florian") unfamiliar to me.
These sets offer minimal documentation,
therefore if anyone knows more about these, comments would be welcome.

Sardana Records --> SACD(made in USA! is this a pirate? very expensive!)
Meteor --> MCD
Dumka --> DCD
Bells of Saint Florian --> AB
Joy Classics --> JoyCD
Halloo --> HAL

* SACD-145/6 Matacic's 5th (French Nat. Orch), coupled with
Mozart's 25th (Budapest Symphony)

* SACD-144 Matacic's 3rd (Budapest Symphony)

* MCD-028 Matacic's 3rd (Vienna Symphony)

* DCD-30-03/04 Celibidache's 7th (BPO) [made in Croatia!!]
(could this be the one that was once available as Sony video
and was pulled from the market due to license problems?)

* MCD-007 Boehm's 7th (BRSO)

* AB-2 Jochum's 7th (VPO) (different from his Telefunken rec.?)

* SACD-100 Wand's 8th (BPO)

* SACD-156/7 Tennstedt's 8th (BPO) (21 Nov. '81)

* SACD-105/6 Wand's 9th (Munich Phil) (+ Schubert's 8th)

* SACD-171 Kubelik's 9th (BPO) (Sept. 16, 1980)
25:25, 10:26, 26:50
Note: also released as AB-3

* MCD-058 E. Jochum's 9th (Munich Phil.)
24:12, 10:53, 27:33

* JoyCD-9005 Leinsdorf's 9th (unidentified orch., rec. 1972)
21:28, 9:53, 23:00

* HAL-17/18 Wand's 5th (BRSO) and Ninth (Berlin RSO)


Ramon Khalona
Tokyo, Japan


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The Bruckner 7 with Eugen Jochum (AB-2) is from Tokyo, the
Japan tour the Concertgebouworkest of 1986
The Bruckner 9 with Eugen Jochum (MCD-058 E) is his very
last performance in Münich with the Münchener
Philharmoniker, 1987

see also my Jochum site at www.robkruijt.net

Rob Kruijt


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paulgo...@my-deja.com

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In article <7rntgc$5u0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

rkha...@adnc.com wrote:
> While raiding Ishimaru Soft One's two stores(in Akihabara) a couple
> of days ago, I noticed a bunch of what appear to be concert
> recordings of Bruckner symphonies on labels that are
> (except for "Bells of St. Florian") unfamiliar to me.
[snip]

For the uninitiated, please tell us about the label "Bells of St.
Florian," which I see on the Berkshire site. Anything good there?

--
Paul Goldstein

rkha...@adnc.com

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In article <7ror1i$sqv$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

paulgo...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <7rntgc$5u0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> rkha...@adnc.com wrote:
> > While raiding Ishimaru Soft One's two stores(in Akihabara) a couple
> > of days ago, I noticed a bunch of what appear to be concert
> > recordings of Bruckner symphonies on labels that are
> > (except for "Bells of St. Florian") unfamiliar to me.
> [snip]
>
> For the uninitiated, please tell us about the label "Bells of St.
> Florian," which I see on the Berkshire site. Anything good there?

These appear to be taken from concerts and have very good sound for the
most part (no notes, not even recording dates on most of them). I have
only picked up Sanderling's BRSO 4th (which was too slow for my taste)
and Kubelik's BPO 9th, which I find a solid performance and quite a
rarity. At the price the B. sells them for,, they're worth taking a
chance.

Ramon Khalona
Tokyo, Japan

rkha...@adnc.com

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Sep 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/15/99
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In article <11f733ec...@usw-ex0108-057.remarq.com>,

Rob Kruijt <robNO...@robkruijt.net> wrote:
> The Bruckner 7 with Eugen Jochum (AB-2) is from Tokyo, the
> Japan tour the Concertgebouworkest of 1986

Are you saying the disc is mislabeled?
(AB-2 says it's with the VPO).

mae...@my-deja.com

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Sep 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/16/99
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rkha...@adnc.com wrote:
> In article <11f733ec...@usw-ex0108-057.remarq.com>,
> Rob Kruijt <robNO...@robkruijt.net> wrote:
> > The Bruckner 7 with Eugen Jochum (AB-2) is from Tokyo, the
> > Japan tour the Concertgebouworkest of 1986
>
> Are you saying the disc is mislabeled?
> (AB-2 says it's with the VPO).

It's not mislabelled. AFAIK there are two different Jochum performances
of Bruckner 7th on this Bells of St Florian label. AB-15 has the
Concertgebouw recording from 17 September 1986 recorded live in Tokyo,
while AB-2 is an earlier account dating from 9 June 1974, taken from a
Wiener Festwochen concert with the VPO in the Musikvereinsaal.

HK

Young-Jin Rhee

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> * SACD-145/6 Matacic's 5th (French Nat. Orch), coupled with
Matacic, Lv / French National Orch. / 1979.5.21?

> Mozart's 25th (Budapest Symphony)
> * SACD-144 Matacic's 3rd (Budapest Symphony)

Matacic, Lv / Budapest SO / 1979.5.16

> * MCD-028 Matacic's 3rd (Vienna Symphony)

Matacic, Lv / Vienna SO / 1982

> * DCD-30-03/04 Celibidache's 7th (BPO) [made in Croatia!!]
> (could this be the one that was once available as Sony video
> and was pulled from the market due to license problems?)

Yes. it's a re-union concert with Berliner Philharmoniker in 1992. Sound
is quite a good. Worth have it.
Celibidache, S / Berlin Phil. / 1992.04.01

> * MCD-007 Boehm's 7th (BRSO)

Boehm, K / Bavarian RO / 1970's

> * SACD-100 Wand's 8th (BPO)

Wand, G / Berlin Phil. / 1996.09

> * SACD-156/7 Tennstedt's 8th (BPO) (21 Nov. '81)

Tennstedt, K / Berlin Phil. / 1981.11.21

> * SACD-105/6 Wand's 9th (Munich Phil) (+ Schubert's 8th)

Wand, G / Munich Phil. / 1998

> * SACD-171 Kubelik's 9th (BPO) (Sept. 16, 1980)
> 25:25, 10:26, 26:50

Kubelik, R / Berlin Phil. / 1984.09.16

> * JoyCD-9005 Leinsdorf's 9th (unidentified orch., rec. 1972)
> 21:28, 9:53, 23:00

Leinsdorf, E / Frankfurt RO / 1972

> * HAL-17/18 Wand's 5th (BRSO) and Ninth (Berlin RSO)

Bruckner, A : Symphony No.5 in Bb major
Wand, G / Bavarian RO / 1986
Bruckner, A : Symphony No.9 in D minor
Wand, G / Berlin RO / 1993

They are all live recordings and different from any other studio
sources.

Young-Jin Rhee

Alain

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Sep 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/16/99
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rkha...@adnc.com wrote:

> While raiding Ishimaru Soft One's two stores(in Akihabara) a couple
> of days ago, I noticed a bunch of what appear to be concert
> recordings of Bruckner symphonies on labels that are
> (except for "Bells of St. Florian") unfamiliar to me.

> These sets offer minimal documentation,
> therefore if anyone knows more about these, comments would be welcome.

I don't know Ramon, but every time you mention a Tokyo neighborhood I get an
irresistible craving for anago.

Alain

George Murnu

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Rob Kruijt wrote:
>
> The Bruckner 7 with Eugen Jochum (AB-2) is from Tokyo, the
> Japan tour the Concertgebouworkest of 1986
> The Bruckner 9 with Eugen Jochum (MCD-058 E) is his very
> last performance in Münich with the Münchener
> Philharmoniker, 1987

Does the Munich Philharmonic play as well for Jochum as they do for
Celi? I am curious to hear the MPO under different conductors; so far I
know only Wand could get the same level of playing as Celi did.

Regards,

George

Young-Jin Rhee

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Sep 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/16/99
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> In article <11f733ec...@usw-ex0108-057.remarq.com>,

> Rob Kruijt <robNO...@robkruijt.net> wrote:
> > The Bruckner 7 with Eugen Jochum (AB-2) is from Tokyo, the
> > Japan tour the Concertgebouworkest of 1986
>
> Are you saying the disc is mislabeled?
> (AB-2 says it's with the VPO).
There are *two* Bruckner 7 with Jochum on AB series.

THE BELLS OF SAINT FLORIAN / AB 2
Bruckner, A : Symphony No.7 in E major
Jochum, E / Vienna Phil. / 1974

THE BELLS OF SAINT FLORIAN / AB 15
Bruckner, A : Symphony No.7 in E major
Jochum, E / Amsterdam Concertgebouw Orch. / 1986 in Tokyo

Young-Jin Rhee

lionel_...@my-deja.com

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In article <37E030...@ifree.net>,
if01...@ifree.net wrote:

> > * SACD-100 Wand's 8th (BPO)
> Wand, G / Berlin Phil. / 1996.09

A live performance from September 19th 1996 was broadcast on
German radio.

> > * SACD-105/6 Wand's 9th (Munich Phil) (+ Schubert's 8th)
> Wand, G / Munich Phil. / 1998

Such a concert took place on April 21st 1998 and was also broadcast.

Lionel Tacchini

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