Victor
Besides the Couperin, Rousset has a great set of the Rameau Pièces de
clavecin.
I recommended very strongly the Händel suites by Borgstede on Brilliant Classics
(4 CDs).
Beautiful instruments, beautifully played and recorded.
Andreas Staier has done some fabulous things on harpsichord, most of
all an album dedicated to the Fandango. He can do things on a
harpsichord that I have never heard before...
You mentioned Scott Ross who has done beautiful complete cycles of
Rameau and Couperin on a French label Stil (hard to find, but worth
the trouble!). The instrument is the harpsichord of the Chäteau
d'Assas and it sounds glorious.
Last but not least Gustav Leonhardt who has done a lot of things. One
of his last recordings was an all Byrd album, very beautifully done.
W.
For my money the Scott Ross Scarlatti sonatas are better listening
than Belder, and comparably priced if you look at MDT or other
European sources. (I have both Ross and Belder, but some of the latter
set reminds me of Beecham's remark about harpsichord recordings.)
Richard
Rafael Puyana - a couple of CDs on Mercury - vintage, but I think
still meets your criteria
Glen Wilson's WTC
Alan Curtis's French Suites
David Cates's French Suites
Robert Hill's Art of Fugue
Celine Frisch's Goldbergs
Depending on the 'presence' your new setup provides, you may enjoy
Blandine Verlet's Bach, Froberger and other French Baroque composers.
Her harpsichord is (usually) a 1624 Ruckert, the sounds of which are
very clean and pleasant but not very resonant. Her interpretations
tend to be somewhat reserved, but I find them often beautiful. The
recordings are on Astrᅵe Auvidis, and may require some searching for.
On the other end of the resonance scale, any of Valenti's Scarlatti
recordings will test your system's ability to, um, parse the sounds.
He recorded for Westminster, but there have been several issues
available recently, both commercial and otherwise.
And there was Kipnis, for which we are blessed.
bl
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Gerard wrote:
> beingvery...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>> I've recently upgraded my stereo setup and now find harpsichord
>> recordings really rather pleasant to listen to. I'd like to solicit
>> recommendations for both well-played and well-recorded harpsichord
>> CDs. I really like Parmentier's Bach, Rousset's Couperin, and the
>> INA Scott Ross recital for example.
>
> I recommended very strongly the Händel suites by Borgstede on
> Brilliant Classics (4 CDs).
I don't :)
Ever since I've heard the Glenn Gould CD with 4 Händel suites, I was
desperately in search of an adequate complementation of the suites. I have
sampled dozens of recordings and finally bought Dantone, Cuckston, Yates,
Kipnis and Schenkman, of which none really satisfies me. Then, recently,
Arno Schuh pointed me to a 10 CD box with the complete Händel solo
harpsichord music played by Eberhard Kraus*, and this was my discovery of
the decade. It may sound stern, sterile, austere, mechanical to some, but to
me it is the only way how this music should be played. His playing is crisp,
rhythmically steady, the fugues are clean and transparent, which is
supported by the very direct and almost reverbless recording sound. All
other harpsichordists I know pale in comparision to him -- they either
romantize the suites or are not up to the task technically.
The Kraus box is my recommendation to all who have similar taste like me.
Ciao
AK
* http://www.bayermusicgroup.de/en/label/ebs/ebs6111.htm
I wrote:
> All other harpsichordists I know pale in comparision to him -- they
> either romantize the suites or are not up to the task technically.
Read "romanticize"
Cio
AK
That's always a safe recommendation.
But did you *HEAR* Borgstede's recordings of the Händel suites?
Gerard wrote:
> But did you *HEAR* Borgstede's recordings of the Händel suites?
Yes, I sampled them at jpc.de.
Ciao
AK
Did you sample all CDs?
I ask this because different instruments have been used.
For me these recordings belong to the very rare ones that can convince people
that harpsichord recordings can be beautiful. When listened on appropriate
equipment (on my cd speakers the sound is completely different).
Gerard wrote:
> Did you sample all CDs?
No, probably not.
> I ask this because different instruments have been used.
> For me these recordings belong to the very rare ones that can
> convince people that harpsichord recordings can be beautiful. When
> listened on appropriate equipment (on my cd speakers the sound is
> completely different).
Well, the most beautifully sounding harpsichord cannot make good what bad or
mediocre playing ruins :)
By the way, Kraus is also using authentic historic instrumens (of the
"Sammlung des Germanischen Nationalmuseums Nürnberg"): Gräbner, Dulcken,
Grimaldi, Gheerdinck and Bortolus.
Ciao
AK
Here I don't agree (with your suggestion that Borgstede is playing bad or
mediocre, or that he ruins something).
In my day, which is longer ago than I care to remember, Landowska
was the player all others were to be measured by. Of course, there
weren't many others then.
Nobody has recommended her. Why is that? Is she now out of style
or is it that her recordings all mono?
Charlie
--
All the world's a stage, and most
of us are desperately unrehearsed. Sean O'Casey
I don't have any of these, but I'll append:
Kenneth Gilbert - Two and Three-part Inventions and Little Preludes
Personally, I detest the sounds made by that Pleyel monstrosity.
I still have her WTC Book I listed (RCA Red Seal 6217-2-RC).
> <beingvery...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > I've recently upgraded my stereo setup and now find harpsichord
> > recordings really rather pleasant to listen to. I'd like to solicit
> > recommendations for both well-played and well-recorded harpsichord
> > CDs. I really like Parmentier's Bach, Rousset's Couperin, and the INA
> > Scott Ross recital for example.
> >
> > Victor
>
> In my day, which is longer ago than I care to remember, Landowska
> was the player all others were to be measured by. Of course, there
> weren't many others then.
>
> Nobody has recommended her. Why is that? Is she now out of style
> or is it that her recordings all mono?
The former, if anything.
SE.
> The former, if anything.
I don't know. Her WTC is terrific. The sound of the early recordings is
badly dated, though.
OP was asking for "recommendations for both well-played and well-recorded
harpsichord CDs".
I don't know how much a joke that's supposed to be. But I knew someone who
built his own harpsichord from a kit. It used nylon strings, and sounded
decidedly like a guitar. I wonder if Beecham would have found it acceptable.
Was it perhaps intended to be a sort of lute-harpsichord?
Re Landowska. it's the pre war recordings which I like most --
Goldbergs, Itallian Concerto, Chromatic Fantasie. But they certainly
aren’t well recorded, and they probably aren’t played on a
harpsichord. Still, she was extremely musical.
mandryka wrote:
> harpsichord. Still, she was extremely musical.
(not having heard her) -- what do you mean by "musical" exactly?
Thanks and Ciao
AK
The Pleyel was one of many many instruments which are thought of as
"modern harpsichords". There were literally hundreds of makers of
modern instruments from around 1900 through the 1970s. As far as I
know Neupert is the only company which still manufactures modern
instruments. They depart from originals in that they use overwound
piano-type strings for low-pitched notes, often employ 16 foot stops,
which did exist in the baroque era, but were relatively rare.
Personally, I am in the minority, but prefer modern instruments over
so-called "authentic" ones, which sound mono-chromatic to my ears.
I like changes in tonal colors, especially in a long work like the
Goldbergs or the WTC or the movements of a suite.
Each to his own, I guess.
That depends on the maker. Yes, Pleyels, Mandel Schrams departed most
radically from the old instruments, with their cast iron frames - they
were a sort of hybrid technology.
Personally, I find Pleyels to be utterly charming instruments in their
own right - I don't care how much they differ from the old ones.
Dowd, Eric Herz, Sidey and others have built large German doubles with
the range of registers, including 16 foot, nazales etc. that are much
closer to the sound of the original instruments.
Contrary to what the HIP zombies tell you, with their homogenized anti-
modern stances, Landowska knew completely well that the Pleyel
departed a great deal from the originals. These builders wanted to
build new instruments with greater tonal resources, greater
durability for touring etc.
Some people don't like their sound, but other people are turned off to
the antiques and their copies - to me they get boring very quickly.
It was largely the HIP police that ended the modern harpsichord
movement - for which a very long list of new repertoire was composed
in the 20th century. What a shame. I'd give anything for a Herz
German double with 7 pedals and it's rich organ -like 16 foot stop.
Of course, but there’s another side to the story.
I like Walcha on the harpsichord. Stiff, mechanical, ascetic old
Walcha.
The structure of the music so clear in his performance. No one I have
heard separates the voices better. And the fast tempos , combined with
the machine like pulse, makes his interpretations sometimes border on
the ecstatic.
You’ll either love it or loath it.
And it is well recorded, so the OP may want to try it.
John Gavin wrote:
> Personally, I find Pleyels to be utterly charming instruments in
> their own right - I don't care how much they differ from the old
> ones.
What bothers me: now we're talking about the sound of the instruments!
Shouldn't we talk about the interpretation instead? I remember some readers
here condemned the sound of the harpsichord Glenn Gould used for his Händel
suites, while I have no problem with that, since the playing is outstanding.
I have no CDs of Landowska -- I just sampled a few tracks on JPC and
remembered why. Maybe it's just me, but I think that baroque music
(especially chamber music -- fugues and other contrapuntal music) only works
if played like a MIDI file (well, almost). IMHO any ritardandos etc. are
contraproductive. As I've wrote earlier: I sampled many harpsichord
recordings of Bach and Händel solo works, and almost every one of them put
me off because it was played as if it was composed in the 19th century.
Mushy rhythms, mannered lingerings on notes, technical incapabilities etc.
I would have started to wonder if something is wrong with my conception of
music, if there weren't some (albeit few) musicians who play exactly as I
expect this music to be played. Eberhard Kraus is one of them, and I
recommend his recordings to anyone who want to hear and enjoy the music
instead of concentrating on the recording sound, the instrument capabilities
etc. His excerpts of the WTC for instance (available as part of a Bach album
on eMusic.com) changed my perception of the WTC entirely.
Unfortunately, Kraus' recordings are hard to find (mostly availalbly only on
obscure sampler CDs, except the mentioned Händel box), which is however not
due to his uncapabilites but a failed marketing management.
Ciao
AK
mandryka wrote:
> I like Walcha on the harpsichord. Stiff, mechanical, ascetic old
> Walcha.
>
> The structure of the music so clear in his performance. No one I
> have heard separates the voices better. And the fast tempos ,
> combined with the machine like pulse, makes his interpretations
> sometimes border on the ecstatic.
This sounds very intriguing. Do you have a link to that recording?
Thanks and Ciao
AK
PS: have you heard Kraus? :-)
I've become intrigued by this Kraus of whom I had not heard before. Are
his recordings available on CD somewhere?
Philip
> On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 03:11:41 +1000, JohnGavin wrote (in article
><23e7a0b1-d81b-460a...@22g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>):
>
>> It was largely the HIP police that ended the modern harpsichord
>> movement - for which a very long list of new repertoire was composed
>> in the 20th century. What a shame. I'd give anything for a Herz
>> German double with 7 pedals and it's rich organ -like 16 foot stop.
>
> Have you played one?
In undergraduate school, I worked up (but didn't perform, because it wasn't
my "major instrument"!) the Haydn D Major concerto on a huge, beautiful,
clangorous Neupert with two keyboard and octave coupling. I devised a zany
cadenza, which I really should write down someday; the piano version of it
uses the next-to-the-highest key and the lowest key on a standard 88, with
double trills and silly hand-crossings.
--
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To write to me, do for my address what Androcles did for the lion
Opinions expressed here are not necessarily those of my employers
I owned a Landowska model Pleyel for a few years - I revoiced it
entirely in delrin - admittedly lots of work but it was worth it. A
great deal of fun to play.
The instrument was solid as a rock, complicated, but it was a marvel
of engineering. The Pleyel nazale stop is incomparable.
If I could choose any instrument now, it would be an Eric Herz German
Double. I love the sound of those.
Haven't heard of Kraus -- will explore.
French EMI did a useful set of Walcha's harpsichord recordings.
I think his style was a deliberate move away from romanticism. The
idea was that you play all and only what is on the score.
If you like his approach to Bach's organ music you may well like these
recordings.
Philip Peters wrote:
>>> I like Walcha on the harpsichord. Stiff, mechanical, ascetic old
>>> Walcha.
>>>
>>> The structure of the music so clear in his performance. No one I
>>> have heard separates the voices better. And the fast tempos ,
>>> combined with the machine like pulse, makes his interpretations
>>> sometimes border on the ecstatic.
>>
>> This sounds very intriguing. Do you have a link to that recording?
>>
> I've become intrigued by this Kraus of whom I had not heard before.
> Are his recordings available on CD somewhere?
Apart from his H�ndel complete harpsichord music box:
http://www.bayermusicgroup.de/en/label/ebs/ebs6111.htm
there are apparently no other dedicated solo harpsichord CDs with him
available (although there were several LPs with him which have not been
rereleased on CD).
A very nice piece of Couperin (Pi�ces De Clavecin III: XIV. Le Rossignol En
Amour) is available as MP3 download at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.de/Pi%C3%A8ces-Clavecin-III-Rossignol-Amour/dp/B002OCBROU/
On this MP3 album (available on Amazon.com only) is another recording of the
H�ndel suite HWV 441 (tracks 5 - 12).
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QZU694/
Kraus was Domorganist in Regensburg, so he also made several organ
recordings which are now scattered on dozens of sampler CDs.
Ciao
AK
PS: another MP3 album: http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B001RWSKUW/ marked as
"Bach, English Suites" and partly attrbuted to Eberhard Kraus, is actually
*not* played by him, but entirely by a Daniel Benn.
mandryka wrote:
> French EMI did a useful set of Walcha's harpsichord recordings.
>
>
http://www.amazon.fr/Bach-Clavier-Temp%C3%A9r%C3%A9-Variations-Goldberg/dp/B000V1Z0CQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1270703943&sr=8-1
>
> I think his style was a deliberate move away from romanticism. The
> idea was that you play all and only what is on the score.
>
> If you like his approach to Bach's organ music you may well like
> these recordings.
Thank you very much!
Ciao
AK
Walcha's English Suites are fantastic IMHO. Really exciting and
vibrant. He played a big Ammer harpsichord - it had a majestic sound.
That's that thing with the big revival instruments - they were capable
of power as well as delicacy.
Thanks from me too.
Similarly intrigued by the descriptions,
Lena
Given that the original title is an oxymoron, I'm wondering if there
are any good *clavichord* recordings - for both performance and
recording merits - that I should look into.
mandryka wrote:
> I like Walcha on the harpsichord. Stiff, mechanical, ascetic old
> Walcha.
>
> The structure of the music so clear in his performance. No one I
> have heard separates the voices better.
By the way: if one wants to hear the entire opposite of such approach, one
should listen to Siegbert Rampe on this CD:
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Georg-Friedrich-H%E4ndel-Cembalowerke/hnum/9984861
Listen to track no. 2: pure swaggering, extremely overdone ornamentation,
which results in indistinguishable fugue voices. The heavy reverb adds to
this result.
Ciao
AK
The recent Naxos Blu-ray set of Haydn keyboard music includes clavichord
performances. Note that it can be played only on a Blu-ray player.
Don't overlook this album...
Lena wrote:
> Thanks from me too.
>
> Similarly intrigued by the descriptions,
Glad to hear this. Here is another example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8yqf6R8ms4
Ciao
AK
Won't help me (yet). Seems odd that such a performance would be
available only on Blu-ray, and not CD or DVD.
> Don't overlook this album...
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Porgy-Bess-Oscar-Peterson-Pass/dp/B000000Z0M/re...
Thanks, that's something I must have!
> Won't help me (yet). Seems odd that such a performance
> would be available only on Blu-ray, and not CD or DVD.
It's the cheapest way to provide a "high-resolution" recording running over
15 hours. SACDs would require perhaps a dozen disks.
There is some good Scott Ross on
YouTube from many composers. For
example, here are some excerpts from
L'Art de Toucher le Clavecin :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSgytoWMLn4
I'd like to find some Ralph Kirkpatrick as
well. (Mr. Scarlatti K). He seems to have
the ability to be quite expressive, at least
in Scarlatti.
C.
>Stil (hard to find, but worth
> the trouble!). The instrument is the harpsichord of the Chäteau
> d'Assas and it sounds glorious.
>
> Last but not least Gustav Leonhardt who has done a lot of things. One
> of his last recordings was an all Byrd album, very beautifully done.
>
> W.
Heh! That's the first thing that came to my mind.
I do have some classical clavichord recordings, but have no strong
opinions on them, pro or con.
Similarly, I thought of mentioning Don Angle's pop harpsichord albums,
of which I have one. For a non-pedaled two-hands performer, he manages
to fill the space up with music very neatly.
Kip W
Hey, I should have said thanks first.
Thanks anyway :-)
PP
His Bach is also great. He has two recordings of the Goldbergs, and I
like them both.
I would love to hear them, but the Cd is hard to find.
If anyone sees it at a reasonable price than please, let me know.
You're right about the instrument, I think. I just listened to some
WTC and was really impressed by the sonority.
The interpretation too -- Walcha may be an acquired taste but when
you learn to appreciate his style he is very satisfactory.
I think people who have never heard him would be surprised.
Who else plays on similarly colourful harpsichords, John?
Oh, it was nothing. :) And besides, you already thanked him. :)
Anyway, now that we're more grateful than the average poster, I'll go
listen to Andrej's link, which I really do appreciate (come to think
of it) .
All smileys omitted, except some superfluous ones.
Lena
;-)
P