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Do you know the pianist Ali Wood? (review-long)

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samir ghiocel golescu

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If you ever thought musical interpretation cannot express, eloquently and
immediately, stupidity, try this and get back to me.

regards,
SG
(who was sent a CD of her by an enthusiast friend--yep, she does look
good)


Matthew B. Tepper

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Aug 28, 2000, 11:20:48 PM8/28/00
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Was this a reference to some other post which has been lost in the
aether?

Or was it all a set-up to some dumb pun such as, "Hooray for Ali Wood"?

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samir ghiocel golescu

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> > If you ever thought musical interpretation cannot express, eloquently
> > and immediately, stupidity, try this and get back to me.
> >
> > regards,
> > SG
> > (who was sent a CD of her by an enthusiast friend--yep, she does look
> > good)
>
> Was this a reference to some other post which has been lost in the
> aether?

No, unless you consider this a continuation of the thread on good-looking
musicians...


> Or was it all a set-up to some dumb pun such as, "Hooray for Ali Wood"?

No, it's for real, see www.ali-wood.com. Unfortunately, I'm afraid no
sound samples are offered and the perverse pleasure of checking the
truthfulness of my "long" review ("stupidity can be noticed in
interpretation") is not worth the 13 bucks asked for that CD I've heard,
culminating in such delicatessen as a piano solo excerpt from Grieg's
Concerto (worse than in the pianola times!!) and Pachelbel's Cannon
arranged, you'd never guess, by the soloist herself. The music-making had
the quality of making me laugh--it was like a Borge would have imitated,
grossly exaggerating, a bad amateur pianist.

regards,
SG

Dan Koren

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In article <Pine.GSO.4.10.100082...@ux12.cso.uiuc.edu>,
samir ghiocel golescu <gol...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>

She seems to be all the rage in Australia -- I suppose
audiences must have tired of Helfgott by now. Very good
looking -- I hope her talent does justice to her looks! :)


dk


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Jeremy Cook

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In article <Pine.GSO.4.10.100082...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu>,

samir ghiocel golescu <gol...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
> > > If you ever thought musical interpretation cannot express,
> > > eloquently and immediately, stupidity, try this and get back to
> > > me.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > SG
> > > (who was sent a CD of her by an enthusiast friend--yep, she does
> > > look good)
> >
> > Was this a reference to some other post which has been lost in the
> > aether?
>
> No, unless you consider this a continuation of the thread on good-
> looking musicians...

>
> > Or was it all a set-up to some dumb pun such as, "Hooray for Ali
> > Wood"?
>
> No, it's for real, see www.ali-wood.com.

Well, her picture at the web site explains perfectly why she's so
horrible... she's playing the piano with her feet! Is this some sort
of weird 'antipodean' thing? Nic??

samir ghiocel golescu

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On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Dan Koren wrote:

> She seems to be all the rage in Australia -- I suppose
> audiences must have tired of Helfgott by now. Very good
> looking -- I hope her talent does justice to her looks! :)

Lasciate ogni speranza, voi che entrate...


Sander Verheule

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Well, that was what Australia was intended for, originally.

samir ghiocel golescu

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> > No, it's for real, see www.ali-wood.com.
>

> Well, her picture at the web site explains perfectly why she's so
> horrible... she's playing the piano with her feet! Is this some sort
> of weird 'antipodean' thing? Nic??

My name is not Nic, but I guess this is what Schnabel used to refer to as
"pedifestations" of art.

regards,
SG


Matthew B. Tepper

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jerem...@my-deja.com (Jeremy Cook) wrote in
<8ogsup$orq$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>:

>In article <Pine.GSO.4.10.100082...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu>,


> samir ghiocel golescu <gol...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>>

>> > > If you ever thought musical interpretation cannot express,
>> > > eloquently and immediately, stupidity, try this and get back to
>> > > me.
>> > >
>> > > regards,
>> > > SG
>> > > (who was sent a CD of her by an enthusiast friend--yep, she does
>> > > look good)
>> >
>> > Was this a reference to some other post which has been lost in the
>> > aether?
>>
>> No, unless you consider this a continuation of the thread on good-

>> looking musicians...


>>
>> > Or was it all a set-up to some dumb pun such as, "Hooray for Ali
>> > Wood"?
>>
>> No, it's for real, see www.ali-wood.com.
>

>Well, her picture at the web site explains perfectly why she's so
>horrible... she's playing the piano with her feet! Is this some sort
>of weird 'antipodean' thing? Nic??

Well, there *was* that guy who was blessed by the pope for playing the
guitar with his feet....

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Alain Dagher

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"Raymond Hall" <hallr...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> "Dan Koren" <DanK...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:8ogrqo$nik$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > In article <Pine.GSO.4.10.100082...@ux12.cso.uiuc.edu>,

> > samir ghiocel golescu <gol...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> > >
> >
> > She seems to be all the rage in Australia -- I suppose
> > audiences must have tired of Helfgott by now. Very good
> > looking -- I hope her talent does justice to her looks! :)
> >
> 99.8256 % of Australians have never heard of her. Word has finally reached
> us, (a bottle with bits of newspaper was found floating in Botany Bay) of
> Brendel and Arrau.

Is that the same bottle that had the picture of the parthenon in it?

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John Grabowski

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I like the part of her sample program that says:


NOTE - All Ali Wood concerts have 2 intermissions.


I won't speculate on the reason for this. :)


John

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John Grabowski

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BTW, I think she's rather ugly, judging from the web photos. She's
surely not a natural blonde, and if she puts any more chemical dyes in
her hair it looks like it will break off.

John Grabowski

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From her website, with asides in []s:

In October 1998, Ali Wood became the first Australian concert pianist to
make a New York debut at Carnegie Hall. [This happned because Helfgott
flew his 747 into a building and had to cancel.] The last Australian to
make a debut there was Dame Nellie Melba, over 100 years ago. Ali's
concert received rave reviews, and resulted in her being approached by
several of New York's leading agents within minutes of walking off
stage. [Some of them had even managed to tuck the bulge back into their
pants. Then there was Peter Gelb...]

Internationally acclaimed as an artistic and creative virtuoso [by us,
her management], Australian pianist Ali Wood was born in Brisbane, and
is just 19 years old. She has already established a reputation as a
giant among pianists. [In fact, Philips was going to do a Great Pianists
of the 20th Century release on her until they realized they could never
whittle it all down to *just* three volumes.] The analogy is somewhat
ironic, as Ali is barely 1.6 metres tall and less than 48 kgs in weight!
[And she watches those kgs carefully, no doubt. The term "eye candy" is
not lost on her.]


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At just 17 years of age, Ali captured the attention of the international
music community by performing 3 major piano concertos in one concert!
[This was the most astonishing feat since Clementi performed part of the
Beethoven Violin Concerto holding the violin upside-down and riding a
unicycle while juggling flaming chainsaws.] She was the soloist in a
series of 8 concerts, in which she performed the Grieg Piano Concerto in
A minor, Mozart Piano Concerto no 21 in C and the Tchaikovsky Piano
Concerto in B flat minor each evening. [Despite playing these pieces,
she prefers to use the tired used-to-be-hip teenybopper vernacular and
just call her performances "Stuff," as her album "Famous Stuff"
articulately demonstrates.]

These performances were hailed as an extraordinary feat [or she was
hailed for her extraordinary feet, or something like that, judging by
the URL photos], and quite possibly a world first. "... an extraordinary
feat for any concert pianist, let alone a 17 year old!" - Richard Gill
OAM, Hon Doc Mus. [A week later he said the same thing when a
31-year-old ventriloquist had his dummy hum "Old Kentucky Home" while he
walked on a tightrope between the World Trade Center towers.]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ali Wood has been credited with being the first pianist in the world to
use lighting and special effects, to visually enhance a classical piano
recital. [That's why Mozart couldn't cut it as an artist...he just
didn't have this sort of flair.] Considered to be a revolutionary and
daring approach [by people who've never seen a rock concert or the Ice
Capades, apparently], she is single handedly drawing younger audiences
back into the concert hall. [A video with Christina Aguilara, "Classics
Is What A Girl Needs," is forthcoming.]

Ali's concert programs are characterised by many of the most famous
piano works by the great Romantic composers. Composers such as Chopin,
Liszt and Rachmaninoff. [Like, you know, they wrote the melodies in
those songs by Barry Manilow, Neil Diamond, and those guys...]

She has performed extensively throughout Queensland, New South Wales and
Victoria, and has twice performed to capacity audiences in the Concert
Hall at the Queensland Performing Arts Complex, and in the Great Hall at
Parliament House in Canberra. ["Sorry, Mrs. Helfgott, but we don't need
you this month... Try again later..."]


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Okay, it's a little nasty. Sue me. And why should Tepper be the only
one to have fun? ;-)


John

John Wiser

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Alain Dagher inquires:

>
> > 99.8256 % of Australians have never heard of her. Word has finally
reached
> > us, (a bottle with bits of newspaper was found floating in Botany Bay)
of
> > Brendel and Arrau.
>
> Is that the same bottle that had the picture of the parthenon in it?
>
Actually, the pic came out of Eugene Goossens' luggage.

John Wiser
jic...@frontiernet.net


samir ghiocel golescu

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Aug 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/29/00
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[very funny stuff snipped]

> Okay, it's a little nasty. Sue me. And why should Tepper be the only
> one to have fun? ;-)

Oh, John, I guess DK had enough of a laugh as to concede in exchange that,
at least sometimes, that famous Martin Krause student was *not* dull and
soporific....

regards,
SG (-:


samir ghiocel golescu

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> Probably was. But we were so "wowed" by the news of the
> Wunderkindheldenpianists Brendel and Arrau we all rushed out and bought
> their records. Incidentally, a few marbles were found in the bottle as well.
> Well, it *was* a rather large bottle ;-)

> BTW, has WWII finished yet - just curious?

Yes, now that Queen Victoria died, the Second Boer War is approaching its
expected end....


Raymond Hall

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Aug 29, 2000, 7:04:55 PM8/29/00
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"Dan Koren" <DanK...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8ogrqo$nik$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <Pine.GSO.4.10.100082...@ux12.cso.uiuc.edu>,
> samir ghiocel golescu <gol...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> >
>
> She seems to be all the rage in Australia -- I suppose
> audiences must have tired of Helfgott by now. Very good
> looking -- I hope her talent does justice to her looks! :)
>
99.8256 % of Australians have never heard of her. Word has finally reached
us, (a bottle with bits of newspaper was found floating in Botany Bay) of
Brendel and Arrau. We admire goof balls and great pianists over here. They
are all the rage ;-)

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Raymond Hall

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"Alain Dagher" <al...@bic.mni.mcgill.ca> wrote in message
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>
> "Raymond Hall" <hallr...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:4oWq5.40334$c5.1...@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...
> > "Dan Koren" <DanK...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:8ogrqo$nik$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > > In article
<Pine.GSO.4.10.100082...@ux12.cso.uiuc.edu>,
> > > samir ghiocel golescu <gol...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > She seems to be all the rage in Australia -- I suppose
> > > audiences must have tired of Helfgott by now. Very good
> > > looking -- I hope her talent does justice to her looks! :)
> > >
> > 99.8256 % of Australians have never heard of her. Word has finally
reached
> > us, (a bottle with bits of newspaper was found floating in Botany Bay)
of
> > Brendel and Arrau.
>
> Is that the same bottle that had the picture of the parthenon in it?
>
Probably was. But we were so "wowed" by the news of the
Wunderkindheldenpianists Brendel and Arrau we all rushed out and bought
their records. Incidentally, a few marbles were found in the bottle as well.
Well, it *was* a rather large bottle ;-)
BTW, has WWII finished yet - just curious?

Regards,

Matthew B. Tepper

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jg...@earthlink.net (John Grabowski) wrote in
<39AC41C0...@earthlink.net>:

>I like the part of her sample program that says:
>
>
> NOTE - All Ali Wood concerts have 2 intermissions.
>
>
>I won't speculate on the reason for this. :)

So those who didn't have time to finish masturbating in the first interval
will have another try?

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Matthew B. Tepper

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jg...@earthlink.net (John Grabowski) wrote in
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>
>Okay, it's a little nasty. Sue me. And why should Tepper be the only
>one to have fun? ;-)

I sure had fun reading it!

Matthew B. Tepper

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jic...@frontiernet.net (John Wiser) wrote in
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>Alain Dagher inquires:


>>
>> > 99.8256 % of Australians have never heard of her. Word has finally
>> > reached us, (a bottle with bits of newspaper was found floating in
>> > Botany Bay) of Brendel and Arrau.
>>

>> Is that the same bottle that had the picture of the parthenon in it?
>>

>Actually, the pic came out of Eugene Goossens' luggage.

ROFL!

Dan Koren

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In article <4oWq5.40334$c5.1...@newsfeeds.bigpond.com>,

"Raymond Hall" <hallr...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> "Dan Koren" <DanK...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:8ogrqo$nik$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > In article
<Pine.GSO.4.10.100082...@ux12.cso.uiuc.edu>,
> > samir ghiocel golescu <gol...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> > >
> >
> > She seems to be all the rage in Australia -- I suppose
> > audiences must have tired of Helfgott by now. Very good
> > looking -- I hope her talent does justice to her looks! :)
> >
> 99.8256 % of Australians have never heard of her. Word has
> finally reached us, (a bottle with bits of newspaper was
> found floating in Botany Bay) of Brendel and Arrau. We
> admire goof balls and great pianists over here. They
> are all the rage ;-)

You live in Sidney and she is from Perth. I
suppose news travel slowly in Australia...:)


dk

Dan Koren

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In article <39AC41C0...@earthlink.net>,

John Grabowski <jg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I like the part of her sample program that says:
>
> NOTE - All Ali Wood concerts have 2 intermissions.
>
> I won't speculate on the reason for this. :)
>


Weak bladder....

Dan Koren

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In article <8ogsup$orq$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Jeremy Cook <jerem...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> Well, her picture at the web site explains perfectly why
> she's so horrible... she's playing the piano with her feet!
> Is this some sort of weird 'antipodean' thing? Nic??
>

She isn't horrible.... she is oh so cute! :)

As for playing the piano with her feet, that's
in preparation for the Olympic Games -- aren't
you aware of the fact that piano playing is now
an approved olympic sport? :)

Dan Koren

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In article <39AC4205...@earthlink.net>,

John Grabowski <jg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> BTW, I think she's rather ugly, judging from the web photos. She's
> surely not a natural blonde, and if she puts any more chemical dyes in
> her hair it looks like it will break off.
>


You shouldn't be so mean to her -- one cannot really tell.

Dan Koren

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In article
<Pine.GSO.4.10.100082...@ux13.cso.uiuc.edu>,

samir ghiocel golescu <gol...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
> Oh, John, I guess DK had enough of a laugh as to concede in
> exchange that, at least sometimes, that famous Martin Krause
> student was *not* dull and soporific....
>

I didn't have no fun at all -- who do you take me for? I
take my listening very seriously and I find it absolutely
outrageous that people would laugh at a young artist just
because she looks beautiful without even having listened
to her recordings.

John Grabowski, did you listen to Ali's recordings before
making fun of her? Perhaps an apology should be in order.

Dan Koren

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Aug 30, 2000, 12:23:24 AM8/30/00
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In article <39AC47D2...@earthlink.net>,

John Grabowski <jg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> At just 17 years of age, Ali captured the attention of the
international
> music community by performing 3 major piano concertos in one concert!
> [This was the most astonishing feat since Clementi performed part of
the
> Beethoven Violin Concerto holding the violin upside-down and riding a
> unicycle while juggling flaming chainsaws.] She was the soloist in a
> series of 8 concerts, in which she performed the Grieg Piano Concerto
in
> A minor, Mozart Piano Concerto no 21 in C and the Tchaikovsky Piano
> Concerto in B flat minor each evening. [Despite playing these pieces,
> she prefers to use the tired used-to-be-hip teenybopper vernacular and
> just call her performances "Stuff," as her album "Famous Stuff"
> articulately demonstrates.]
>
> These performances were hailed as an extraordinary feat [or she was
> hailed for her extraordinary feet, or something like that, judging by
> the URL photos], and quite possibly a world first. "... an
extraordinary
> feat for any concert pianist, let alone a 17 year old!"


At his Berlin debut concert Godowsky played the Emperor,
the Tchaikovsky 1st and the Brahms 2nd in one evening.
That was about... 100 years ago -- I suppose the news
never made it to Australia.

And one of Byron Janis' standard programs included the
two Liszt piano concerti and Totentanz -- I guess that
qualifies as 3 concerti, albeit shorter ones.

There are plenty of other instances of pianists playing
3 concerti in one concert -- I wonder who is the idiot
who wrote the above review.

Dan Koren

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Aug 30, 2000, 12:32:42 AM8/30/00
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In article
<Pine.GSO.4.10.100082...@ux13.cso.uiuc.edu>,

samir ghiocel golescu <gol...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
> Oh, John, I guess DK had enough of a laugh as to concede in
> exchange that, at least sometimes, that famous Martin Krause
> student was *not* dull and soporific....


You mean Rubinstein, right?

Any other Krause pupils became famous?

Dan Koren

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Aug 30, 2000, 12:37:33 AM8/30/00
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In article <39AC47D2...@earthlink.net>,
John Grabowski <jg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Ali Wood has been credited with being the first pianist in
> the world to use lighting and special effects, to visually
> enhance a classical piano recital.

Nothwithstanding Richter's candlelight recitals....

Dan Koren

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Aug 30, 2000, 12:35:21 AM8/30/00
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In article <39AC47D2...@earthlink.net>,
John Grabowski <jg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> From her website, with asides in []s:
>
> In October 1998, Ali Wood became the first Australian concert pianist
to
> make a New York debut at Carnegie Hall. [This happned because Helfgott
> flew his 747 into a building and had to cancel.] The last Australian
to
> make a debut there was Dame Nellie Melba, over 100 years ago. Ali's
> concert received rave reviews, and resulted in her being approached by
> several of New York's leading agents within minutes of walking off
> stage. [Some of them had even managed to tuck the bulge back into
their
> pants. Then there was Peter Gelb...]
>


Prophetic words maybe.... Ms. Wood stands a better chance of
landing a Sony contract than many other pianists.... Let's
face it -- Oz sells! :) Why should Peter let BMG/RCA rack
in all the profits from Helfgott and Ali is a so much hotter
product? :)

Dan Koren

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Aug 30, 2000, 12:51:21 AM8/30/00
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In article <39AC47D2...@earthlink.net>,
John Grabowski <jg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> At just 17 years of age, Ali captured the attention of the
international
> music community by performing 3 major piano concertos in one concert!
> [This was the most astonishing feat since Clementi performed part of
the
> Beethoven Violin Concerto holding the violin upside-down and riding a
> unicycle while juggling flaming chainsaws.] She was the soloist in a
> series of 8 concerts, in which she performed the Grieg Piano Concerto
in
> A minor, Mozart Piano Concerto no 21 in C and the Tchaikovsky Piano
> Concerto in B flat minor each evening. [Despite playing these pieces,
> she prefers to use the tired used-to-be-hip teenybopper vernacular and
> just call her performances "Stuff," as her album "Famous Stuff"
> articulately demonstrates.]
>
> These performances were hailed as an extraordinary feat [or she was
> hailed for her extraordinary feet, or something like that, judging by
> the URL photos], and quite possibly a world first. "... an
extraordinary
> feat for any concert pianist, let alone a 17 year old!"

It took me a while but I finally understood the true meaning of
Ali's unique achievement -- it's not the fact the she played 3
concerti in one concert, it's the fact she played them with her
feet! :)

Matthew B. Tepper

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Aug 30, 2000, 1:32:25 AM8/30/00
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DanK...@Yahoo.com (Dan Koren) wrote in <8oi2u9$6eo$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>:

>
>Prophetic words maybe.... Ms. Wood stands a better chance of
>landing a Sony contract than many other pianists.... Let's
>face it -- Oz sells! :) Why should Peter let BMG/RCA rack
>in all the profits from Helfgott and Ali is a so much hotter
>product? :)

Ali isn't that much a "hotter product" until there's been a Hollywood movie
about her in which she jumps around naked on a trampoline.

Matthew B. Tepper

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Aug 30, 2000, 1:33:21 AM8/30/00
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DanK...@Yahoo.com (Dan Koren) wrote in <8oi32c$6ff$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>:

>In article <39AC47D2...@earthlink.net>,
> John Grabowski <jg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> Ali Wood has been credited with being the first pianist in
>> the world to use lighting and special effects, to visually
>> enhance a classical piano recital.
>
>Nothwithstanding Richter's candlelight recitals....

Richter didn't have breasts which could be emphasized in such light.

Matthew B. Tepper

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Aug 30, 2000, 1:37:46 AM8/30/00
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DanK...@Yahoo.com (Dan Koren) wrote in <8oi27d$5on$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>:

Didn't Rubinstein do several weeks of New York Concerts (many followed by
midnight recording sessions for RCA) in which he played three different
concerti every single night?

The idiot is of course a mousse-haired marketing moron, Australian-style.

John Grabowski

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Aug 30, 2000, 2:31:12 AM8/30/00
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Dan Koren wrote:
>
> In article <39AC4205...@earthlink.net>,
> John Grabowski <jg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > BTW, I think she's rather ugly, judging from the web photos. She's
> > surely not a natural blonde, and if she puts any more chemical dyes in
> > her hair it looks like it will break off.
> >
>
> You shouldn't be so mean to her -- one cannot really tell.

I apologize...I'll adopt your model of kindness instead.

J

P.S.: :)

John Grabowski

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Aug 30, 2000, 2:32:11 AM8/30/00
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When you listen to all of Claudio Arrau's.....

John

Matthew Silverstein

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Aug 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/30/00
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Matthew Tepper wrote;

> > NOTE - All Ali Wood concerts have 2 intermissions.
> >
> >
> >I won't speculate on the reason for this. :)
>
> So those who didn't have time to finish masturbating in the first interval
> will have another try?

There was a reason he didn't want to speculate as to the reason . . .

Matty


Jeremy Cook

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Aug 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/30/00
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In article <8oi27d$5on$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Dan Koren <DanK...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <39AC47D2...@earthlink.net>,
> John Grabowski <jg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > At just 17 years of age, Ali captured the attention of the
> > international music community by performing 3 major piano concertos
> > in one concert!
[snip]

> At his Berlin debut concert Godowsky played the Emperor,
> the Tchaikovsky 1st and the Brahms 2nd in one evening.
> That was about... 100 years ago -- I suppose the news
> never made it to Australia.
>
> And one of Byron Janis' standard programs included the
> two Liszt piano concerti and Totentanz -- I guess that
> qualifies as 3 concerti, albeit shorter ones.

Jeanne-Marie Darré performed all five Saint-Saëns concerti in one
evening in 1926. Why anyone would want to hear all five in a row is
beyond me, but it's rather impressive nonetheless.

samir ghiocel golescu

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Aug 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/30/00
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> > Oh, John, I guess DK had enough of a laugh as to concede in
> > exchange that, at least sometimes, that famous Martin Krause
> > student was *not* dull and soporific....
> >
>
> I didn't have no fun at all -- who do you take me for? I
> take my listening very seriously and I find it absolutely
> outrageous that people would laugh at a young artist just
> because she looks beautiful without even having listened
> to her recordings.
>
> John Grabowski, did you listen to Ali's recordings before
> making fun of her? Perhaps an apology should be in order.

BTW, I am just curious, did *you* listen to her recordings? Any opinions?
Was my estimation of her playing incorrect?

regards,
SG


Raymond Hall

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Aug 30, 2000, 5:04:07 PM8/30/00
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"Jeremy Cook" <jerem...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:8oj1ol$8lr$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...

> In article <8oi27d$5on$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> Dan Koren <DanK...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
> > In article <39AC47D2...@earthlink.net>,
> > John Grabowski <jg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > At just 17 years of age, Ali captured the attention of the
> > > international music community by performing 3 major piano concertos
> > > in one concert!
> [snip]

> > At his Berlin debut concert Godowsky played the Emperor,
> > the Tchaikovsky 1st and the Brahms 2nd in one evening.
> > That was about... 100 years ago -- I suppose the news
> > never made it to Australia.
> >
> > And one of Byron Janis' standard programs included the
> > two Liszt piano concerti and Totentanz -- I guess that
> > qualifies as 3 concerti, albeit shorter ones.
>
> Jeanne-Marie Darré performed all five Saint-Saëns concerti in one
> evening in 1926. Why anyone would want to hear all five in a row is
> beyond me, but it's rather impressive nonetheless.
>

They didn't have sets in those days ;-)

John Grabowski

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Aug 30, 2000, 9:41:10 PM8/30/00
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Dan Koren wrote:
>
> In article <8ogsup$orq$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> Jeremy Cook <jerem...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well, her picture at the web site explains perfectly why
> > she's so horrible... she's playing the piano with her feet!
> > Is this some sort of weird 'antipodean' thing? Nic??
> >
>
> She isn't horrible.... she is oh so cute! :)

Dan needs an eye test in addition to the hearing check.


John

P.S.: Oh, sorry, I forgot ... :)

--
"...His tone is pure velvet." --Howard Taubman, New York Times Music
Critic, on Richter

"...Still a banger, like so many Soviets." --Michael Walsh, Time
Magazine Music Critic, on Richter.

Dan Koren

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Aug 30, 2000, 10:32:07 PM8/30/00
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In article <8oj1ol$8lr$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Jeremy Cook <jerem...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> Jeanne-Marie Darré performed all five Saint-Saëns concerti in one
> evening in 1926. Why anyone would want to hear all five in a row is
> beyond me, but it's rather impressive nonetheless.
>

Why anyone would want to spend an entire evening listening to
Jeanne-Marie Darre is even less comprehensible.... :) maybe
she inspired the same kind of enthusiasm Ali Wood does....

Dan Koren

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Aug 31, 2000, 6:03:19 PM8/31/00
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In article <39ADB7D8...@earthlink.net>,

John Grabowski <jg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Dan needs an eye test in addition to the hearing check.
>
> John
>
> P.S.: Oh, sorry, I forgot ... :)
>
> --
> "...His tone is pure velvet." --Howard Taubman, New York Times Music
> Critic, on Richter
>
> "...Still a banger, like so many Soviets." --Michael Walsh, Time
> Magazine Music Critic, on Richter.

Where did you get the Richter quotes? They're great! Or
are you simply referring Michael Walsh as a patient? :)

John Grabowski

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Sep 2, 2000, 7:45:20 PM9/2/00
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Dan Koren wrote:
>
> In article <39ADB7D8...@earthlink.net>,
> John Grabowski <jg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > Dan needs an eye test in addition to the hearing check.
> >
> > John
> >
> > P.S.: Oh, sorry, I forgot ... :)
> >
> > --
> > "...His tone is pure velvet." --Howard Taubman, New York Times Music
> > Critic, on Richter
> >
> > "...Still a banger, like so many Soviets." --Michael Walsh, Time
> > Magazine Music Critic, on Richter.
>
> Where did you get the Richter quotes? They're great! Or
> are you simply referring Michael Walsh as a patient? :)

The first one comes from the liner notes to the CD "Richter in Leipig,"
on M&A. http://www.musicandarts.com/CD1025.html

The second from the book "Who's Afraid of Classical Music" by Michael
Walsh, published somewhere around 1989. The entire quote is:

Widely admired Russian pianst, but still a banger, in the mould of so
many Soviets. Bangs up a storm in the Mussorgsky Pictures, though.

Yes, that's his two-line dismissal of Richter.


John

--
The ability to play chess is the sign of a gentleman. The ability to
play chess well is the sign of a wasted life. -Unknown.

Andrys D Basten

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Sep 3, 2000, 5:05:04 AM9/3/00
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In article <8oi27d$5on$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
Dan Koren <DanK...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
>In article <39AC47D2...@earthlink.net>,

>> music community by performing 3 major piano concertos in one concert!
>> . . .


>> These performances were hailed as an extraordinary feat

>At his Berlin debut concert Godowsky played the Emperor,


>the Tchaikovsky 1st and the Brahms 2nd in one evening.
>That was about... 100 years ago -- I suppose the news
>never made it to Australia.
>
>And one of Byron Janis' standard programs included the
>two Liszt piano concerti and Totentanz -- I guess that
>qualifies as 3 concerti, albeit shorter ones.
>
>There are plenty of other instances of pianists playing
>3 concerti in one concert -- I wonder who is the idiot
>who wrote the above review.

I don't know but you can add that Argerich's Teatro Colon
concert in 1986 (telecast live) included:

Beethoven PC #2
Liszt PC #1
Prokofiev 3rd

in that order and followed by the Schumann Kinderszenen #1 as an
encore.

- A

--
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ian...@hotmail.com

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On Monday, August 28, 2000 at 3:00:00 PM UTC+8, samir ghiocel golescu wrote:
> If you ever thought musical interpretation cannot express, eloquently and
> immediately, stupidity, try this and get back to me.
>
> regards,
> SG
> (who was sent a CD of her by an enthusiast friend--yep, she does look
> good)

JEALOUSY IS THE SIGN OF A WEAK AND PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING

ian...@hotmail.com

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On Monday, August 28, 2000 at 3:00:00 PM UTC+8, samir ghiocel golescu wrote:
> If you ever thought musical interpretation cannot express, eloquently and
> immediately, stupidity, try this and get back to me.
>
> regards,
> SG
> (who was sent a CD of her by an enthusiast friend--yep, she does look
> good)

pathetic ... another jealous dick head
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