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Knappertsbusch vs. Karajan
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Willem Orange
Mar 11, 2014, 7:09:34 AM3/11/14
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A recent thread on another topic called up some really funny stories concerning Hans Knappertsbusch and Herbert von Karajan. They both conducted at Bayreuth in 1951, both were great musicians but Kna had something Fluffy sorely lacked - a sense of humor which Kna used on Fluffy with devastating effect. I guess the most famous was the WC story. Because of the lack of accommodations at Bayreuth they had space for a sitting room with attached WC for only one conductor so Fluffy whined and complained till they gave it to him. Kna took it all in stride till one day he and his entourage walked through theatre and saw Karajans room with the sign "exclusively for the use of Karajan" whereas Kna had a sign made up and put next to it reading "and all the other assholes go over there".
When it was mentioned to him that Fluffy conducted with no score and eyes closed, Kna's response "Well that's because I know how to read music" Culshaw remarked that this wonderful conductor of Parsifal told some of the funniest dirty stories he ever heard.
When it was mentioned to him that Fluffy conducted with no score and eyes closed, Kna's response "Well that's because I know how to read music" Culshaw remarked that this wonderful conductor of Parsifal told some of the funniest dirty stories he ever heard.
td
Mar 11, 2014, 8:26:42 AM3/11/14
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On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:09:34 AM UTC-4, Willem Orange wrote:
> A recent thread on another topic called up some really funny stories concerning Hans Knappertsbusch and Herbert von Karajan. They both conducted at Bayreuth in 1951, both were great musicians but Kna had something Fluffy sorely lacked - a sense of humor which Kna used on Fluffy with devastating effect. I guess the most famous was the WC story. Because of the lack of accommodations at Bayreuth they had space for a sitting room with attached WC for only one conductor so Fluffy whined and complained till they gave it to him. Kna took it all in stride till one day he and his entourage walked through theatre and saw Karajans room with the sign "exclusively for the use of Karajan" whereas Kna had a sign made up and put next to it reading "and all the other assholes go over there".
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> When it was mentioned to him that Fluffy conducted with no score and eyes closed, Kna's response "Well that's because I know how to read music" Culshaw remarked that this wonderful conductor of Parsifal told some of the funniest dirty stories he ever heard.
Recycled tittle-tattle.
> A recent thread on another topic called up some really funny stories concerning Hans Knappertsbusch and Herbert von Karajan. They both conducted at Bayreuth in 1951, both were great musicians but Kna had something Fluffy sorely lacked - a sense of humor which Kna used on Fluffy with devastating effect. I guess the most famous was the WC story. Because of the lack of accommodations at Bayreuth they had space for a sitting room with attached WC for only one conductor so Fluffy whined and complained till they gave it to him. Kna took it all in stride till one day he and his entourage walked through theatre and saw Karajans room with the sign "exclusively for the use of Karajan" whereas Kna had a sign made up and put next to it reading "and all the other assholes go over there".
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> When it was mentioned to him that Fluffy conducted with no score and eyes closed, Kna's response "Well that's because I know how to read music" Culshaw remarked that this wonderful conductor of Parsifal told some of the funniest dirty stories he ever heard.
Garbage.
TD
William Sommerwerck
Mar 11, 2014, 11:08:32 AM3/11/14
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"td" wrote in message
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Tom, there is the truism that, though certain stories might not be true, they
ought to be.
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ought to be.
Dontait...@aol.com
Mar 12, 2014, 8:58:44 PM3/12/14
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On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 6:09:34 AM UTC-5, Willem Orange wrote:
> A recent thread on another topic called up some really funny stories concerning Hans Knappertsbusch and Herbert von Karajan. They both conducted at Bayreuth in 1951, both were great musicians but Kna had something Fluffy sorely lacked - a sense of humor which Kna used on Fluffy with devastating effect. I guess the most famous was the WC story. Because of the lack of accommodations at Bayreuth they had space for a sitting room with attached WC for only one conductor so Fluffy whined and complained till they gave it to him. Kna took it all in stride till one day he and his entourage walked through theatre and saw Karajans room with the sign "exclusively for the use of Karajan" whereas Kna had a sign made up and put next to it reading "and all the other assholes go over there".
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> When it was mentioned to him that Fluffy conducted with no score and eyes closed, Kna's response "Well that's because I know how to read music" Culshaw remarked that this wonderful conductor of Parsifal told some of the funniest dirty stories he ever heard.
Thanks for this.
> A recent thread on another topic called up some really funny stories concerning Hans Knappertsbusch and Herbert von Karajan. They both conducted at Bayreuth in 1951, both were great musicians but Kna had something Fluffy sorely lacked - a sense of humor which Kna used on Fluffy with devastating effect. I guess the most famous was the WC story. Because of the lack of accommodations at Bayreuth they had space for a sitting room with attached WC for only one conductor so Fluffy whined and complained till they gave it to him. Kna took it all in stride till one day he and his entourage walked through theatre and saw Karajans room with the sign "exclusively for the use of Karajan" whereas Kna had a sign made up and put next to it reading "and all the other assholes go over there".
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> When it was mentioned to him that Fluffy conducted with no score and eyes closed, Kna's response "Well that's because I know how to read music" Culshaw remarked that this wonderful conductor of Parsifal told some of the funniest dirty stories he ever heard.
Such anecdotes help to humanize people whose names are unknown and otherwise just vague, dusty things from "ancient" history. They make those subjects more human, easier to relate to, and more interesting for some potential listeners --who might then even want to buy some examples of their art. I found that to always be true in all of the broadcasts I did at WFMT for 35 years.
Don Tait
Andy Evans
Feb 14, 2023, 1:36:07 PM2/14/23
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On Thursday, 13 March 2014 at 00:58:44 UTC, Dontait...@aol.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 6:09:34 AM UTC-5, Willem Orange wrote:
> > A recent thread on another topic called up some really funny stories concerning Hans Knappertsbusch and Herbert von Karajan. They both conducted at Bayreuth in 1951, both were great musicians but Kna had something Fluffy sorely lacked - a sense of humor which Kna used on Fluffy with devastating effect. When it was mentioned to him that Fluffy conducted with no score and eyes closed, Kna's response "Well that's because I know how to read music" Culshaw remarked that this wonderful conductor of Parsifal told some of the funniest dirty stories he ever heard.>>
> On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 6:09:34 AM UTC-5, Willem Orange wrote:
Can somebody remind me where the nickname Fluffy came from. I seem to remember that it was a woman friend but no more......
mINE109
Feb 14, 2023, 4:15:45 PM2/14/23
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clear if the word was a translation from the German or if the woman used
the English.
Dan Koren
Feb 17, 2023, 7:17:30 AM2/17/23
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On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:36:07 AM UTC-8, Andy Evans wrote:
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> Can somebody remind me where the nickname Fluffy came from.
It was a reference to his mane.
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> Can somebody remind me where the nickname Fluffy came from.
dk
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