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Cuneyt Telli

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If you were to select a single CD or a single work for every great
conductor what would be your choice for the following great artists?

1- Abendroth
2- Ancerl
3- Barbirolli
4- Beecham
5- Van Beinum
6- Boehm
7- Boult
8- Britten
9- Cantelli
10- Celibidache
11- Cluytens
12- C Davis
13- De Sabata
14- Dorati
15- Fricsay
16- Furtwaengler
17- Haitink
18- Horenstein
19- E Jochum
20- Kabasta
21- Karajan
22- Kempe
23- Kleiber
24- Klemperer
25- Kletzki
26- Knappertsbusch
27- Kondrashin
28- Koussevitzky
29- Kubelik
30- Leinsdorf
31- Maderna
32- Malko
33- Markevitch
34- Mengelberg
35- Miravinsky
36- Mitropoulos
37- Monteux
38- Munch
39- Ormandy
40- Van otterloo
41- Pfitzner
42- Reiner
43- Rodzinsky
44- Rosbaud
45- Sanderling
46- Scherchen
47- Schmidt-Isserstedt
48- Schuricht
49- Sejna
50- Silvestri
51- Smetacek
52- Solti
53- Stokowski
54- R Strauss
55- Stravinsky
56- Szell
57- Talich
58- Tenstedt
59- Toscanini
60- Walter
61- Weingartner

Thanks for your replies in advance

CT

Raymond Hall

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Nov 21, 2003, 4:58:37 AM11/21/03
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"Cuneyt Telli" <cuney...@freenet.de> wrote in message
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| If you were to select a single CD or a single work for every great
| conductor what would be your choice for the following great artists?

| <snip of list ...>

Doth not the following conductors qualify as well :-

Abbado, Abravanel, Berglund, Boulez, Previn, Giulini, Prêtre, Bernstein,
Mata, Svetlanov, Rohzdestvensky, Skrokacewski, Sawallisch, Martinon,
Ansermet, Paray, Maazel, Handley, Sinopoli, Wand, Jensen, Blomstedt,
Horenstein, and some scores of others ...

or are the above all chopped liver?

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DelMarva LaPoule

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Nov 21, 2003, 7:32:16 AM11/21/03
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There's an awful lot of "fool's gold" in this Top 100.

Here's the real list, edited by this marigold-fed fowl:


> 2- Ancerl
> 3- Barbirolli
> 4- Beecham

> 6- Boehm
> 15- Fricsay
> 16- Furtwaengler
> 19- E Jochum
> 24- Klemperer
> 29- Kubelik
> 30- Leinsdorf
> 33- Markevitch
> 37- Monteux
> 38- Munch
> 45- Sanderling
> 48- Schuricht
> 49- Sejna
> 56- Szell
> 57- Talich
> 60- Walter

To which I would add:

Ansermet
Paray
Steinberg
Fedoseyev
Westerberg

The rest (pace, Mr. Hall) are either chopped liver or hamburger helper.


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Michael Weston

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Nov 21, 2003, 9:26:30 AM11/21/03
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There are two responses to this thread so far, and both take you to task
for your question and offer you nothing by way of what you asked for.

Seeing this makes me angry, as I seem to recall a time when any question
might be greeted in a friendly manner. But right now, the biggest
discussion here is a pissing contest that boils down to "how much is too
much to spend on good music?"

In article <d4bbb0ca.03112...@posting.google.com>,
cuney...@freenet.de (Cuneyt Telli) wrote:

> If you were to select a single CD or a single work for every great
> conductor what would be your choice for the following great artists?
>

> 1- Abendroth - ?
> 2- Ancerl - Glagolitic Mass, Dvorak 9
> 3- Barbirolli - RVW 2, any Elgar
> 4- Beecham - Lolipops, Sibelius 4 & 5
> 5- Van Beinum - Beethoven 3 DVD on Q Disk, Debussy, Bruckner 8 & 9
> 6- Boehm - Beethoven 9- the earlier one
> 7- Boult - RVW 1 & 2/Decca, Holst on Lyrita, his last two Planets
> 8- Britten - Britten cond. Britten (everything I've heard is good), Mozart Syms.
> 9- Cantelli - Beethoven 7, EMI artist Profile
> 10- Celibidache - Wagner chunks on EMI, Bruckner 6 & 8
> 11- Cluytens - Ravel, Debussy, EMI Artist PRofile
> 12- C Davis - blind spot, I normally can't stand him, even his Beethoven 7
> 13- De Sabata - Brahms 4, Wagner/NYPO with Farrell
> 14- Dorati - Nutcracker/COncertgebouw
> 15- Fricsay - Beethoven 9 on DG, Kodaly, Bartok
> 16- Furtwaengler - Bruckner 9, any Wagner, Brahms 1 DG or Tahra
> 17- Haitink - Mahler Christmas Concerts
> 18- Horenstein - Brahms 1 / Chesky, Bruckner 8/BBC
> 19- E Jochum - early Bruckner, Beethoven on DG, lots of good stuff on Tahra
> 20- Kabasta - ?
> 21- Karajan - Berg/Schoenberg/Webern, Honnegger
> 22- Kempe - Ein Silvesterkonzert on Berlin Classics, Tchaik 5 on Testament, Strauss on EMI
> 23- Kleiber - Beethoven 5 & 7 on Decca. Yeah, on Decca, with the Concertgebouw. Follow?
> 24- Klemperer - Beethoven 3,5 & 7 mono on EMI, Brahms 1-4
> 25- Kletzki - Mahler 4
> 26- Knappertsbusch - Schubert 9/VPO on DG
> 27- Kondrashin - Mahler 7 on Tahra
> 28- Koussevitzky - Schubert 8, Mendelssohn 4 and Schumann 1 (one cd!) Pearl
> 29- Kubelik - Mahler 1 on Audite
> 30- Leinsdorf - Sheffield Lab recordings, OP Prokofiev
> 31- Maderna - Mahler
> 32- Malko - how many cds are there out there?
> 33- Markevitch - Tchaikofsky, Rite of Spring on Testament, other Testament issues, the recent DG box
> 34- Mengelberg - Tchaik 4-6
> 35- Miravinsky - Tchaik 4-6
> 36- Mitropoulos - Get all the ORfeo releases
> 37- Monteux - Ravel D&C, The CSO DVD
> 38- Munch - The French Touch, all the Living Stereo stuff
> 39- Ormandy - Shostakovich syms.
> 40- Van otterloo - huh?
> 41- Pfitzner - huhuh?
> 42- Reiner - Respighi, Debussy, Bartok and more
> 43- Rodzinsky
> 44- Rosbaud - all the Wergo releases
> 45- Sanderling - ah, whatever. I'm out of time.

David M. Cook

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In article <d4bbb0ca.03112...@posting.google.com>, Cuneyt Telli
wrote:

> 2- Ancerl

I suppose I'd *start* with the Janacek Sinfonietta. Can't think of any
outright bad commercial Ancerl recordings. See

http://www.supraphon.cz/eng/casopisy.php

Oh, someone's going to be miffed that you didn't include Ansermet.

> 3- Barbirolli

Probably his VW 5, coupled with Bax's Tintagel.

> 4- Beecham

There are some nice collections of short works on GROC. It's all good. I'd
single out his Midsummer Night's Dream Overture on EMI, but it doesn't seem
to be available at the moment. EMI has let a lot of stereo Beecham go OOP.

Where's Lenny? I'd go with his Copland Appalachian Spring on Sony for
starters. Any American music he recorded, but a CD of Thompson, Harris and
Diamond is prime.

> 6- Boehm

Well, he had a fairly select recorded repetoire, and he did well in what he
recorded. I like his Beethoven Symphonies, but I also like his Schubert,
Haydn and Mozart, so my taste may be suspect here. I suppose Wozzeck is
another good choice.

> 10- Celibidache

I am very impressed by the EMI Bruckner 6 championed by several other folks
on the group, but the only other Celi I've heard is a very good Bruckner 3
on Exclusive (Stuttgart 1981).

> 11- Cluytens

There was a very nice Artist Profile set on EMI (68220), and BRO still has
this:

http://tinyurl.com/vzp0

> 14- Dorati

I like his digital Sacre on Decca, and also his digital Miraculous
Mandarin. But maybe it's the Decca recording team I was impressed with ;}

> 16- Furtwaengler

I started with the EMI studio Beethoven 5.

Giulini: Tchaikovsky 6/EMI or maybe Berlioz Romeo & Juliet orchestral music.

> 17- Haitink

Das Lied von der Erde with Baker.

> 18- Horenstein

Nielsen 5. Haven't listened to it in a long time, though, so nostalgia may
be at play here.

> 19- E Jochum

Bruckner 7/EMI

> 21- Karajan

Either stereo EMI Sibelius 5 (BRO has 66599 with the Philharmonia)
Wagner overtures and preludes on EMI.

> 22- Kempe

There's that great R. Strauss box, but that may be a bit more than you're
looking for (BRO still has some of the older Strauss chubby box sets; same
remasterings). I like his Brahms with Berlin, and he did a gorgeous
recording of the Korngold Symphony. Let's go with the Korngold.

Kertesz: Dvorak 9 with VPO; Bluebeard's Castle. Do hear the Bluebeard.

> 23- Kleiber

I suppose the Beethoven 5+7 is the choice for C. Kleiber.

> 24- Klemperer

Mendelssohn 3+4 on EMI. This shows that he was not always a heavy conductor
in his old age.

> 25- Kletzki

Mahler 4, which was on Seraphim and also on an excellent EMI Artist Profile
set.

> 27- Kondrashin

Rimsky Capriccio Espagnol on RCA.

> 29- Kubelik

Famous for his Ma Vlast recordings. I suppose I'd go with the last one on
Supraphon. There was also a nice EMI Artist Profile set with a beautiful
Borodin 2.

> 30- Leinsdorf

A great Prokofiev conductor. Symphony 5 and Lt. Kije (2 recordings)
appeared on CD. You'll have to go to private sources for the rest.

> 36- Mitropoulos

Those great Prokofiev Romeo and Juliet selections on Sony.

> 37- Monteux

I've always loved his Enigma and Haydn Variations on Decca. BRO has the
Enigma.

http://tinyurl.com/vzpp

That famous Daphnis seemed to lose its magic on CD.

> 38- Munch

The early 50s Fantastique (not the greatest sound). The EMI Great
Conductors set is very good.

> 39- Ormandy

Sibelius: 4 Legends
Shostakovich: Symphonies 4 & 10

> 46- Scherchen

Beethoven 3+6 on Westminster.

> 49- Sejna

Whatever you can get, I suppose, but I'd single out the Martinu Double
Concerto.

> 50- Silvestri

Another nice EMI Artist Profile set (68229) which includes the famous In The
South. BRO still has that set, and a lot of other Silvestri on the Disky
and Royal Classics labels.

http://tinyurl.com/vzjh

There is also a good CD on Supraphon with Enescu and Ravel (good mono).

> 52- Solti

Was always fond of his Bartok, particularly the analog MSPC. Guess I'd go
with his digital Bartok CfO (Decca recording team again) in the abscence of
that MSPC.

> 53- Stokowski

The Phase 4 Scheherazade, now reissued on Cala. Also his Ravel and Debussy
on EMI. The Great Conductors set is very good. There was also an EMI CD of
the Toch Symphony 3 and Martin's Petite Symphonie that I highly recommend
(with Steinberg's Mathis).

> 56- Szell

I don't have a lot of Szell, but I think his Hindemith Symphonic
Metamporphoses is great.

> 57- Talich

Dvorak: Slavonic Dances
Suk: Asrael

Dave Cook

Sol L. Siegel

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cuney...@freenet.de (Cuneyt Telli) writes:

>If you were to select a single CD or a single work for every great
>conductor what would be your choice for the following great artists?


2- Ancerl: Dvorak 6
3- Barbirolli: Elgar 2, or Falstaff
4- Beecham: La Boheme
6- Boehm: Mozart Posthorn Serenade
7- Boult: VW Sea Symphony on EMI
8- Britten: War Requiem
9- Cantelli: the Debussy CD on Testament
10- Celibidache: Bruckner 6
11- Cluytens: Beethoven 5 w. BPO
12- C Davis: Les Troyens on Philips, of course
13- De Sabata: three guesses, and the first two don't count
14- Dorati: Any Tchaikovsky ballet
16- Furtwaengler: Tristan
17- Haitink: Either Bruckner 9
18- Horenstein: Bruckner 5 on BBC
19- E Jochum: Bruckner Te Deum and motets
21- Karajan: Prokofiev 5
22- Kempe: Any R. Strauss, but especially the BPO Don Quixote
23- Kleiber: Which one?
24- Klemperer: Brahms 1
25- Kletzki: Mahler 4, if you can find it.
27- Kondrashin: the Shostakovich 13 premiere (good luck finding it)
28- Koussevitzky: Berlioz Harold in Italy
29- Kubelik: Dvorak overtures and tone poems
32- Malko: Prokofiev 7
34- Mengelberg: Heldenleben with NYPSO on Pearl
35- Mravinsky: Prokofiev 6
37- Monteux: Franck symphony
38- Munch: Ravel Daphis et Chloe
39- Ormandy: Shostakovich 15
42- Reiner: the '54 Zarathustra
45- Sanderling: Rachmaninov 2 w. Leningrad PO
53- Stokowski: Shostakovich 11
56- Szell: Tchaikovsky 4
57- Talich: Ma Vlast
58- Tennstedt: Mahler 8
59- Toscanini: Verdi Falstaff
60- Walter: the stereo Mahler 9
61- Weingartner: Brahms 2 (dare we hope for a Naxos single disc?)

Where's Bernstein?

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Paul Goldstein

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In article <d4bbb0ca.03112...@posting.google.com>, Cuneyt Telli
says...

>
>If you were to select a single CD or a single work for every great
>conductor what would be your choice for the following great artists?


>2- Ancerl Janacek Glagolitic Mass
>3- Barbirolli RPO Sibelius 2
>4- Beecham Goldmark Rustic Wedding Symphony
>5- Van Beinum Debussy La Mer
>6- Boehm VPO Schubert 5
>8- Britten Mozart 38
>9- Cantelli Schumann 4
>10- Celibidache Stuttgart Brahms cycle
>12- C Davis Handel Messiah
>14- Dorati Mercury Firebird
>15- Fricsay Verdi Requiem
>16- Furtwaengler Schumann 4
>17- Haitink Bruckner 9
>18- Horenstein Mahler 3
>19- E Jochum Concertgebouw Beethoven 4
>21- Karajan Strauss Egyptian March
>22- Kempe Also Sprach Zarathustra
>23- Kleiber which one?
>24- Klemperer Haydn 98/102
>25- Kletzki Mahler 4
>27- Kondrashin Shostakovich 13
>28- Koussevitzky Tchaikovsky 5
>29- Kubelik CzPO Ma Vlast
>30- Leinsdorf EMI Hary Janos/Lt. Kije
>33- Markevitch Sacre du Printemps
>34- Mengelberg Brahms 1
>35- Mravinsky Prokofiev 6 Praga
>36- Mitropoulos Mahler 6
>37- Monteux Brahms 2
>38- Munch Saint-Saens Organ Symphony
>39- Ormandy Dvorak 7
>42- Reiner Bartok MFSP&C
>45- Sanderling Mahler 10
>46- Scherchen Mahler 2
>52- Solti LSO Mahler 1
>53- Stokowski Franck Symphony
>56- Szell Live Sibelius 2
>57- Talich 1954 Ma Vlast
>59- Toscanini 1953 Eroica
>60- Walter stereo Brahms 3/Haydn Vars.
>61- Weingartner Brahms 2

Paul Goldstein

Cuneyt Telli

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"Raymond Hall" <haxxr...@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:<bpknoj$1oj8qi$1...@ID-101911.news.uni-berlin.de>...

> "Cuneyt Telli" <cuney...@freenet.de> wrote in message
> news:d4bbb0ca.03112...@posting.google.com...
> | If you were to select a single CD or a single work for every great
> | conductor what would be your choice for the following great artists?
>
> | <snip of list ...>
>
> Doth not the following conductors qualify as well :-
>
> Abbado, Abravanel, Berglund, Boulez, Previn, Giulini, Prêtre, Bernstein,
> Mata, Svetlanov, Rohzdestvensky, Skrokacewski, Sawallisch, Martinon,
> Ansermet, Paray, Maazel, Handley, Sinopoli, Wand, Jensen, Blomstedt,
> Horenstein, and some scores of others ...
>
> or are the above all chopped liver?

Thank you for enlarging the list. Although I don't have much interest
for Abbado, Maazel, Sinopoli and Wand I would like to hear your
thoughts anyway.

regards

CT

Martha & Russ Oppenheim

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Minor point; the Toch Symphony 3 is also with Steinberg. Certainly
agree on the recommendability of this CD. Only the Martin is conducted
by Stoki (one of the few performances if his that I own or like).

Steve Molino

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> cuney...@freenet.de (Cuneyt Telli) writes:
>
> >If you were to select a single CD or a single work for every great
> >conductor what would be your choice for the following great artists?
>
>
> 2- Ancerl: Janacek Sinfonietta
> 3- Barbirolli: Mahler 9
> 4- Beecham: La Boheme
> 6- Boehm: Magic Flute
> 7- Boult: Holst Planets
> 8- Britten: Any of his works
> 9- Cantelli: Schubert 8
> 10- Celibidache: Bruckner 6
> 11- Cluytens: Roussel 3rd or 4th
> 12- C Davis: Sibelius 5 (Philips)
> 13- De Sabata: dunno
> 14- Dorati: Bartok Mandarin
> 16- Furtwaengler: Beethoven 9 (Lucerne)
> 17- Haitink: can't think of one
> 18- Horenstein: Brahms 1
> 19- E Jochum: Bruckner 4 (DG)
> 21- Karajan: Honegger 3
> 22- Kempe: dunno
> 23- Kleiber: Erich-Beethoven 3 (VPO) Carlos-Beethoven 7
> 24- Klemperer: Beethoven Missa
> 25- Kletzki: Mahler 4
> 27- Kondrashin: Prokofiev 3
> 28- Koussevitzky: dunno
> 29- Kubelik: Dvorak tone poems
> 32- Malko: Prokofiev 7
> 34- Mengelberg: dunno
> 35- Mravinsky: Prokofiev 6
> 37- Monteux: Ravel Daphnis or Debussy Images (Philips)
> 38- Munch: Berlioz Symphonie Fant (second RCA)
> 39- Ormandy: Shostakovich 15 or Sibelius Legends
> 42- Reiner: Bartok CfO
> 45- Sanderling: dunno
> 53- Stokowski: Shostakovich 11
> 56- Szell: Mozart PCs with Casadesus
> 57- Talich: dunno
> 58- Tennstedt: dunno
> 59- Toscanini: dunno
> 60- Walter: Beethoven 6 (stereo)
> 61- Weingartner: dunno
>
> 62- Bernstein: Mahler 6 (DG)
> 63- van Beinum: Brahms 4
> 64- Ozawa: (just kidding)

Tomorrow, of course, the list might be completely different.


Vincent Ventrone

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"Cuneyt Telli" <cuney...@freenet.de> wrote in message
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> If you were to select a single CD or a single work for every great
> conductor what would be your choice for the following great artists?
>
> 2- Ancerl: Romeo & Juliet ballet excerpts
> 3- Barbirolli: VW Sym. #5 on EMI
> 4- Beecham: Peer Gynt
> 6- Boehm: Bruckner 4
> 25- Kletzki: Mahler 4
> 33- Markevitch: Brahms 4
> 39- Ormandy: Siblius 2 on Sony
> 43- Rodzinsky: Complete Nutcracker on Westminster
> 44- Rosbaud: Mahler 7
> 46- Scherchen: Beethoven Eroica, stereo on Westminster
> 48- Schuricht: Bruckner 8


DelMarva LaPoule

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Sol L. Siegel wrote:


> Where's Bernstein?
>
Where he belongs.

Matthew B. Tepper

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What has this Goldstein character recorded?

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>
>> 2- Ancerl

Janacek Sinfonietta and Taras

>> 3- Barbirolli

Sibelius 5 and 7

>> 4- Beecham

Scheherezade

>> 6- Boehm

Schumann 4th VPO

>> 15- Fricsay

Mozart 39

>> 16- Furtwaengler

Schubert Great C Major

>> 19- E Jochum

Bruckner 6th Dresden

>> 24- Klemperer

Bruckner 7th Philharmonia

>> 29- Kubelik

Dvorak Legends

>> 30- Leinsdorf

Prok 6th

>> 33- Markevitch

La Mer

>> 37- Monteux

Dvorak 7th or Elgar Enigma Variations

>> 38- Munch

Faure Pelleas

>> 45- Sanderling

Mahler 9th on Erato

>> 48- Schuricht

Bruckner 8th EMI

>> 49- Sejna

Slavonic Dances complete

>> 56- Szell

Beethoven Missa Solemnis

>> 57- Talich

Dvorak VC Cto with Rostropovich

>> 60- Walter

Eroica and Coriolan

Beethoven 4 and 6

Mahler 1, 2, 9

Schubert Unfinished

J. Strauss Emperor Waltz etc.

Das Lied (Miller & Hafliger)

Haydn 102

Mozart Masonic Funeral Music

Emperor Cto with Gieseking

(Sorry for multiples, but Walter is the greatest classical musician I
have ever experienced.)

>
>
> To which I would add:
>
> Ansermet

Magnard 3
Sibelius 4
Schumann 2

> Paray

Liszt Les Preludes
Chabrier Mercury disc

> Steinberg

Mathis der Maler and Konzertmusik DG

The Four Brahms Symphonies

> Fedoseyev

Rach Symphonic Dances
Glazounov 5 and Suite from Middle Ages

> Westerberg

Stenhammar 2 and Serenade

Simon Roberts

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In article <d4bbb0ca.03112...@posting.google.com>, Cuneyt Telli
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>
>If you were to select a single CD or a single work for every great
>conductor what would be your choice for the following great artists?

I'm going to try to stick with studio recordings, but there are exceptions for
various reasons; I've also skipped some, for various reasons:

>1- Abendroth

Brahms Sym 1/Tahra

>3- Barbirolli

Mahler 6/Strauss Heldenleben/EMI

>6- Boehm

Tristan/DG or Brahms sym 1/BPO/DG or Fidelio/DG

>7- Boult

Elgar Enigma Vars./EMI

>8- Britten

Elgar/Into & Allegro/Decca (or, of course, some of his own music)

>9- Cantelli

Tchaikovsky 5/NBC/M&A (in general, live not studio)

>10- Celibidache

Bruckner 7/EMI

>12- C Davis

Mozart Idomeneo/Philips (his earlier recording)

>13- De Sabata

Puccini Tosca/EMI

>14- Dorati

Dvorak Sym 8/Mercury

>15- Fricsay

Strauss Waltzes/DG or Verdi Requiem/DG (the earlier one)

>16- Furtwaengler

Brahms sym 1 (not sure which recording) or Beethoven 9/1942

>17- Haitink

Bruckner 9/Philips (the early 1980s digital recording)

>19- E Jochum

Bruckner 7 or 9/EMI or Brahms syms cpte/DG

>20- Kabasta

Dvorak 9

>21- Karajan

Fidelio or Salome, both EMI

>22- Kempe

Strauss Death and Transfiguration/EMI (or hell, the whole 9 disc Strauss box on
EMI)

>23- Kleiber

Erich: Mozart sym 40/Decca
Carlos: Brahms sym 2/Philips (video) or Beethoven sym 7/DG (or video)

>24- Klemperer

Beethoven 9/Testament or Haydn 102/EMI

>27- Kondrashin

Shostakovich 5 or 8 or 10

>30- Leinsdorf

Beethoven 7/RCA

>31- Maderna

Mahler 9/Arkadia

>33- Markevitch

Just get the recent DG box devoted to him. Or Haydn 103/4 & Beethoven 1/French
Decca, or Beethoven 5/8 French Decca or Berlioz Damnation/DG or....

>34- Mengelberg

Tchaikovsky sym 5 (the earlier one) or Strauss Heldenleben (either) or Beethoven
6 or....

>35- Miravinsky

Weber Oberon Ov.

>36- Mitropoulos

Prokofiev R&J excpts/Sony or Shostakovich 10/Sony

>38- Munch

Mendelssohn 3/RCA

>39- Ormandy

Brahms sym 1/Sony

>42- Reiner

Brahms sym 2/NYPO

>44- Rosbaud

Bruckner 3/Arkadia or Haydn 92/104/DG

>45- Sanderling

Kurt, I hope.... Brahms sym 1 or Shostakovich 5 or 10

>46- Scherchen

Beethoven 3/Westminster

>48- Schuricht

Mozart 40/41

>50- Silvestri

Just get the cheap Disky box....

>53- Stokowski

Brahms 4/RCA

>56- Szell

Brahms pno cto 1/Decca (with Curzon, stereo)

>59- Toscanini

Beethoven Missa Solemnis 1940 or RCA, or Verdi Requiem (ditto)

>60- Walter

Don Giovanni (live, Met)

Simon

EG

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> If you were to select a single CD or a single work for every great
> conductor what would be your choice for the following great artists?
>
> 1- Abendroth
> 2- Ancerl
> 3- Barbirolli

Mahler 6 on EMI

> 4- Beecham
> 5- Van Beinum
> 6- Boehm
> 7- Boult
> 8- Britten
> 9- Cantelli
> 10- Celibidache
> 11- Cluytens

EMI portrait of the artist double cd.

> 12- C Davis
> 13- De Sabata
> 14- Dorati
> 15- Fricsay
> 16- Furtwaengler

1952 Eroica

> 17- Haitink
> 18- Horenstein
> 19- E Jochum
> 20- Kabasta
> 21- Karajan
> 22- Kempe
> 23- Kleiber
> 24- Klemperer
> 25- Kletzki
> 26- Knappertsbusch

War time Eroica on Tahra.

> 27- Kondrashin
> 28- Koussevitzky
> 29- Kubelik
> 30- Leinsdorf
> 31- Maderna
> 32- Malko
> 33- Markevitch
> 34- Mengelberg

Schubert 9 on Tahra

Beethoven's 7th, and everything else in the Pearl 3cd set.

> 60- Walter

Die Walkuere, first act with Melchior and Lehmann on EMI.
Walter's conducting is superb.

JRsnfld

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<<
1- Abendroth--Bruckner 8
2- Ancerl--Dvorak 6
3- Barbirolli--Tchaikovsky 5 (NYPO)
4- Beecham--Sibelius 2/Dvorak 8 on EMI
5- Van Beinum--Mahler 3 (worth the whole big box)
Bernstein Harris 3
6- Boehm--Brahms 1 (on Orfeo)
7- Boult--Vaughan Williams Pilgrim's Progress
Bour Mozart 41
8- Britten--Britten Cello Symphony
9- Cantelli--Hindemith Mathis der Maler (various)
Chalabala Dvorak symphonic poems
10- Celibidache--Prokofiev R&J Excerpts (on Artists Live)
11- Cluytens (Franck Le Chausser de Maudit)
Coppola Saint-Saens 3
12- C Davis--Mendelssohn 4 (BSO)
13- De Sabata--Sibelius 1 (NYPO)
Desormiere Debussy Pelleas
14- Dorati--Strauss Swan Lake (Minneapolis)
15- Fricsay--Bartok piano concerti (with Anda)
Fried Berlioz Symphonie Fantastique
16- Furtwaengler--Weber Freischutz
Giulini Schubert 4 (CSO)
Gielen Mahler 7
Golovanov Glazunov 6
17- Haitink--Mahler 9 (if you can't get the live Mahler box)
18- Horenstein--Mahler Das Lied von der Erde
Inghelbrecht Debussy Pelleas
19- E Jochum--Brahms set on DG
20- Kabasta--Bruckner 4
21- Karajan--Puccini La Boehme
Kegel Bruckner 8
22- Kempe--Bruckner 4
van Kempen Tchaikovsky 5
23- Kleiber--Beethoven 6 (Concertgebouw) for Erich; Brahms 2 (live VPO) for
Carlos
24- Klemperer--Mahler 2 (Concertgebouw)
25- Kletzki--Mahler 4
26- Knappertsbusch--Bruckner 7 (VPO, Salzburg)
27- Kondrashin--Shostakovich 8
28- Koussevitzky--Beethoven 3 (BSO)
29- Kubelik--Mahler 2 (Audite)
30- Leinsdorf--Wagner Lohengrin
31- Maderna--Mahler 7 (either one)
32- Malko--Prokofiev 7
33- Markevitch--Berlioz Damnation of Faust
Matacic Bruckner 9
34- Mengelberg--Strauss Ein Heldenleben NYPO
37- Mravinsky--Sibelius 7
35- Mitropoulos--Mahler 6 NYPO
Molinari-Pradelli Rigoletto
36- Monteux--Franck Symphony in D
38- Munch--Roussel Bacchus suite (take your pick)
39- Ormandy--Kodaly Dances of Galanta
40- Van otterloo Mahler 4
Panizza Verdi Simon Boccanegra
41- Pfitzner--Schumann 2
42- Reiner--Strauss Also Sprach Zarathustra (either)
43- Rodzinsky--Mahler Das Lied von der Erde
44- Rosbaud--Berg 3 Pieces
45- Sanderling--Brahms set (Dresden)
46- Scherchen--Hartmann 6
47- Schmidt-Isserstedt--Brahms Violin Concerto (Neveu)
48- Schuricht--Mahler Das Lied von der Erde
49- Sejna--Dvorak Slavonic Dances
50- Silvestri Tchaikovsky Manfred (BBC)
Skrowaczewski Bruckner 1
51- Smetacek--Dvorak 6
52- Solti--Mahler 5 (the first one)
53- Stokowski--Dvorak 9 (AAYO)
Steinberg Holst Planets
54- R Strauss Alpensymphonie (M&A)
55- Stravinsky Rite (NYPO)
56- Szell Mahler 9
57- Talich Smetana Ma Vlast
58- Tenstedt Mahler 6 (live LPO)
59- Toscanini Walkure excerpts (Melchior)
60- Walter Brahms 2 (NYPO)
61- Weingartner Beethoven 9 (VPO)

Thanks for your replies in advance
>>

Of course there are many people missing from the list. Few of these were easy
choices; most were impossibly difficult.

Oddly enough, I wrestled with my choice for Rodzinski as much as anybody--my
second choice for him was his white-hot Sibelius 2, but the Das Lied recording
is a recent "discovery" for me, and I still can't get over how incredibly
flexible and "vocal" the orchestra is in his hands--it's one of the most
expressive, yet disciplined performances of anything I've ever heard. The
prevalence of Mahler on the list is no accident, but that of the NYPO may be a
fluke: so many great conductors have been recorded (legally or not) with that
orchestra, it was hard to ignore how great they sound under the right
leadership. In the case of Tennstedt, I think I chose the LPO 6th just to avoid
having yet another NYPO choice (the 5th in the big Mahler box).


--Jeff

this>@xs j.winter4all.nl

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On 20 Nov 2003 23:30:49 -0800, cuney...@freenet.de (Cuneyt Telli)
wrote:

>If you were to select a single CD or a single work for every great
>conductor what would be your choice for the following great artists?

What do I know about conductors?

>1- Abendroth
Brahms 3 with the CzPO

>2- Ancerl
The live Salzburg Dvorak violinconcerto and symphony #9 recording

>4- Beecham
Right now I very much enjoy his Delius recordings.

>5- Van Beinum
Bruckner 9, Schubert 9

>15- Fricsay
Haydn Te Deum, Mozart 39 with the Wiener Symphoniker

>16- Furtwaengler
have to figure out yet which one is my favourite

>17- Haitink
the Mahler christmas matinees

>18- Horenstein
Mahler 1 with the Wiener Symphoniker.

>19- E Jochum
I'd love to hear one of his Concertgebouworkest StMatthew Passions
again

>20- Kabasta
don't know much of him but I heard a remarkable Schubert 3

>21- Karajan
the Schönberg/Webern/Berg recordings

>23- Kleiber
which one?

>24- Klemperer
everything he did with the Concertgebouworkest

>27- Kondrashin
Miaskovsky 6

>29- Kubelik
Dvorak 7 with the VPO

>30- Leinsdorf
Schubert D950

>31- Maderna
to explore (= to find)

>32- Malko
Liadov, 8 Russian Folksongs

>33- Markevitch
Rite of Spring (I almost got hold of his recording of Mompou's Los
Improprios)

>34- Mengelberg
Academic Festouverture

>35- Mravinsky
Francesca da Rimini, and some Shostakovich

>37- Monteux
everything he did with the Concertgebouworkest, but especially Daphnis
et Chloé, and Brahms Tragic Overture

>40- Van otterloo
Liszt, Hungarian Fantasy, with Cor de Groot

>57- Talich
Dvorak, Stabat Mater

>60- Walter
Haydn 96, VPO, with the trumpet in the Trio of the Menuet

Please add at least:
Golovanov, the Scriabin recordings

--
Jan Winter, Amsterdam
< j.winter<delete this>@xs<delete this>4all.nl >

Raymond Hall

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"Cuneyt Telli" <cuney...@freenet.de> wrote in message
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| If you were to select a single CD or a single work for every great
| conductor what would be your choice for the following great artists?
|
| 2- Ancerl - Janacek Sinfonietta, most else as well
| 3- Barbirolli - Sibelius 7th
| 4- Beecham - Delius Sea Drift
| 5- Van Beinum - Handel Water Music
| 6- Boehm - Bruckner 4th
| 8- Britten - his own War Requiem
| 14- Dorati - Stravinsky Firebird
| 17- Haitink - a wonderful orchestral Debussyian
| 18- Horenstein - Nielsen 5th
| 19- E Jochum - Bruckner 5th (Dresden)
| 21- Karajan - Honegger 2nd and 3rd
| 22- Kempe - Richard Strauss in general
| 24- Klemperer - Mahler 2nd
| 25- Kletzki - Mahler 4th (Emmy Loose)
| 26- Knappertsbusch - Bruckner 5th
| 27- Kondrashin - Shostakovich 8th
| 29- Kubelik - Mahler cycle, Ma Vlast and Dvorak Legends
| 32- Malko - Prokofiev 7th
| 33- Markevitch - Le Sacre
| 37- Monteux - Enigma Variations
| 39- Ormandy - Tchaikovsky 6th (CBS)
| 42- Reiner - any Richard Strauss
| 44- Rosbaud - Bruckner 7th
| 47- Schmidt-Isserstedt - LvB cycle
| 49- Sejna - any Martinu, most anything Czech
| 50- Silvestri - Elgar "Alassio" overture
| 53- Stokowski - Tchaikovsky Francesco da Rimini
| 56- Szell - Walton Partita
| 60- Walter - virtually all music that he touched

| 71- Berglund - Sibelius Swan of Tuonela
| 72- Previn - Walton 1st (RCA)
| 73- Giulini - Verdi Requiem, Tchaik 6th
| 74- Prêtre - Berlioz Harold in Italy
| 75- Maazel - Sibelius 4th
| 76- Bernstein - THE Mahler cycle (CBS)
| 77- Martinon - Bartok Miraculous Mandarin
| 78- Svetlanov - Tchaikovsky's Mozartiana suites
| 79- Boulez - Bartok Wooden Prince
| 80- Ansermet - most orchestral Ravel

Alan Watkins

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I will confine myself to people I have played for.

Joint No 1's (Ancerl/Sejna/Rozhdestvensky)...the latter the best
"technical" conductor in the business and acknowledged as such and I
know no one who beats his baton technique. Ancerl and Rozhdestvensky,
coincidentally, were the greatest exponents of Prokofiev Romeo that I
have encountered.


Left off the list, based on personal experience, are Zdenek Chalabala
and Roberto Benzi and errrmmm where is that Bernstein chap?

Kind regards,
Alan M. Watkins

aesthete8

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Didn't you leave out EUGENE BIGOT and OTTO ACKERMANN?

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Brendan R. Wehrung

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"Raymond Hall" (haxxr...@bigpond.com) writes:
> "Cuneyt Telli" <cuney...@freenet.de> wrote in message
> news:d4bbb0ca.03112...@posting.google.com...
> | If you were to select a single CD or a single work for every great
> | conductor what would be your choice for the following great artists?
>
> | <snip of list ...>
>
> Doth not the following conductors qualify as well :-
>
> Abbado, Abravanel, Berglund, Boulez, Previn, Giulini, Prêtre, Bernstein,
> Mata, Svetlanov, Rohzdestvensky, Skrokacewski, Sawallisch, Martinon,
> Ansermet, Paray, Maazel, Handley, Sinopoli, Wand, Jensen, Blomstedt,
> Horenstein, and some scores of others ...
>
> or are the above all chopped liver?
>

Well, some of them are still alive...

Brendan


--


Barry Zukerman

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Abendroth: Brahms 1st symphony
Ancerl: Prokofiev's 1st symphony
Barbirolli: Mahler's 6th
Beecham: Scheherazade
Boehm: Beethoven 6th
Bernstein: Mahler 1st, 5th & 6th (DG), Tchaikovsky 6th (DG)
Boult: Schumann 2nd symphony
Celibidache: Bruckner 6th
Fricsay: Tchaikovsky 6th on Orfeo, Tchaikovsky 5th on DG, Verdi
Requiem (later one)
Furtwaengler: Beethoven 9th (1942), Beethoven 3rd (12/8/52), Schubert
9th (1942), Schubert Unfinished and Brahms 1st (both 2/10/52), The
Moldau, Tristan prelude and Libestod (wartime on Tahra)
Haitink: Bruckner 8th (VPO)
Horenstein: Brahms 1st (Chesky), Mahler 3rd
E Jochum: Bruckner's 4th (DG), 5th (Concertgebouw on Tahra) & 9th
(DG), Brahms 1st (DG)
Kabasta: Bruckner 7th
Karajan: Bruckner 7th (EMI & DG), Beethoven 5th (1962), Scheherazade
Kempe: R. Strauss in general
Kleiber, Erich: Beethoven 3rd (VPO)
Klemperer: Beethoven 3rd (mono/EMI), Mahler 7th
Knappertsbusch: Bruckner 8th (BPO), Beethoven 5th (drawing a blank on
the orchestra and year)
Kondrashin: Shostakovich 13th
Koussevitzky: Bartok Concerto for Orchestra
Kubelik: Mahler 1st (DG)
Markevitch: Rite of Spring
Mengelberg: Beethoven 3rd (Pearl and Tahra)
Miravinsky: Tchaikovsky 4th (DG), Shostakovich 5th, 8th, 10th, 11th,
15th
Monteux: Brahms 2nd (LSO)
Munch: Symphonie Fantastique (1954)
Ormandy: Sibelius in general and Swan Lake exerpts from what I think
is now going as Haydn House
Reiner: Beethoven 5th & 6th, Brahms 3rd
Sanderling: Mahler 6th
Sawallisch: Schumann symphonies
Scherchen: Beethoven 3rd and 8th
Stokowski: Scheherazade (LSO)
Szell: Tchaikovsky 4th
Tenstedt: Mahler 9th live with Philadelphia Orchestra (I know it's not
a commercial release, but it's my favorite Mahler 9th)
Toscanini: Leonore Overture III (1939)
Walter: Beethoven 6th, Brahms 2nd & 3rd (NY Phil)

Cuneyt Telli

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I might have forgotten many names that should have been mentioned such
as Bernstein, Rattle, Golovanov, Konwitschney ( I love his Schubert's
9th), Leo Blech (what else other then his Schubert's 9th), Previn,
Anosov, C Krauss, J Krips etc. sorry, but I would like to hear your
opinions for those which should have been mentioned as well.

regards

CT

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Alan Cooper

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>If you were to select a single CD or a single work for every great


>conductor what would be your choice for the following great artists?
>

>2- Ancerl
Dvorak Violin Concerto w/Suk

>3- Barbirolli
Beethoven Piano Concerto #5 w/Katz

>4- Beecham
Sibelius Symphony #2

>5- Van Beinum
Mahler Symphony #4

>6- Boehm
Mozart Marriage of Fogaro

>7- Boult
Elgar Pomp and Circumstance Marches

>8- Britten
Peter Grimes

>9- Cantelli
Debussy Images for Orchestra

>11- Cluytens
Prokofiev Piano Concerto #3 w/Francois

>12- C Davis
Mozart Oboe Concerto w/Goossens

>13- De Sabata
Brahms Symphony #4

>14- Dorati
Enescu Romanian Rhapsodies

>15- Fricsay
Dukas Sorcerer's Apprentice

>16- Furtwaengler
Brahms Symphony #1 (Berlin 2/52)

>17- Haitink
Mahler Symphony #9

>18- Horenstein
Mahler Symphony #9 (Vox)

>19- E Jochum
Brahms Symphony #2 (DG)

>21- Karajan
Strauss Metamorphosen

>22- Kempe
Strauss Horn Concerti w/Damm

>23- Kleiber
Erich? Mozart Marriage of Figaro; Carlos? Beethoven Symphony #5

>24- Klemperer
Mahler Symphony #2 (Concertgebouw)

>25- Kletzki
Mahler Symphony #4

>26- Knappertsbusch
Wagner, Flying Dutchman

>27- Kondrashin
Brahms Violin Concerto w/Kogan

>28- Koussevitzky
Prokofiev Symphony #1

>29- Kubelik
Mahler Symphony #1

>30- Leinsdorf
Prokofiev Pianio Concerti w/Browning

>31- Maderna
Mahler Symphony #9

>32- Malko
Prokofiev Symphony #7

>33- Markevitch
Haydn Creation

>34- Mengelberg
Bartok Violin Concerto w/Szekely

>35- Miravinsky
Shostakovich Violin Concerto #1 w/Oistrakh

>36- Mitropoulos
Mozart Don Giovanni

>37- Monteux
Brahms Violin Concerto w/Szeryng

>38- Munch
Prokofiev Violin Concerto #2 w/Heifetz

>39- Ormandy
Sibelius 4 Legends

>42- Reiner
Hovhaness Magic Mountain

>43- Rodzinsky
Tchaikovsky Nutcracker

>44- Rosbaud
Mahler Symphony #7

>45- Sanderling
Brahms Symphony #1

>46- Scherchen
Mahler Symphony #2

>47- Schmidt-Isserstedt
Beethoven Violin Concerto w/Schneiderhan

>49- Sejna
Dvorak Symphony #6

>50- Silvestri
Mendelssohn Vioin Concerto w/Ferras

>51- Smetacek
Marinu Sinfonietta Giocosa

>52- Solti
Mozart Magic Flite (first recording)

>53- Stokowski
Bach / Stokowski

>55- Stravinsky
Symphony of Psalms

>56- Szell
Mozart Sinfonia Concertante K364 w/Druian & Skernick

>57- Talich
Dvorak Symphony #7

>59- Toscanini
Beethoven Symphony #7 (NYPO)

>60- Walter
Beethoven Violin Concerto w/Szigeti (1932 recording)


AC

ulvi

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> If you were to select a single CD or a single work for every great
> conductor what would be your choice for the following great artists?
>
> 1- Abendroth

Schumann 2, 4 etc

> 2- Ancerl

Brahms 1st, Janacek sinfonietta

> 3- Barbirolli

EMI Sibelius box

> 4- Bernstein

Missa Solemnis (Sony); Eroica (Sony), much of his
Mahler (Sony or DG) (I know; more than a single CD :)

> 5- Van Beinum

Bruckner 7

> 6- Boehm

Bruckner 8 (either VPO or the one on the recent
Great Conductors issue)

> 7- Boult

Enigma Variations

> 8- Britten

Schumann Faust

> 10- Celibidache

Bruckner 8 / EMI

> 12- C Davis

Mahler 4 / RCA

> 14- Dorati

Brahms symphonies

> 15- Fricsay

Tchaikovsky 6 in the recent DG box

> 16- Furtwaengler

Schubert 9 / DG; Beethoven 9 /1942

> 17- Haitink

DSCH 8

> 18- Horenstein

Mahler 9; dLvdE

> 19- E Jochum

DG Bruckner box

> 21- Karajan

Brahms requiem, last (digital) recording (DG).

> 22- Kempe

EMI R. Strauss box

> 23- Kleiber

E. Kleiber; Eroica (Decca)
C. Kleiber: Freischuetz (DG)

> 24- Klemperer

Mahler 9 (EMI).

> 25- Kletzki

Mahler 4

> 26- Knappertsbusch

Bruckner 8 (W.minster)

> 27- Kondrashin

Sibelius concerto w. Oistrakh

> 29- Kubelik

Dvorak requiem; Mahler 2

> 30- Leinsdorf

Brahms cto 2 w Richter

> 31- Maderna

Mahler symphs on Arkadia

> 33- Markevitch

The newish DG box

> 34- Mengelberg

Mahler 4

> 35- Miravinsky

Bruckner 7

> 36- Mitropoulos

Mahler 6

> 37- Monteux

Beethoven 7; Dvorak 7

> 38- Munch

Brahms 2

> 39- Ormandy

DSCH 8

> 42- Reiner

Beethoven 9

> 44- Rosbaud

Bruckner 7, dLvdE

> 45- Sanderling

DSCH symphonies on Berlin Classics

> 46- Scherchen

Eroica

> 48- Schuricht

Bruckner 8 and 9

> 49- Sejna

Dvorak 6 and tone poems

> 52- Solti

Mahler 8

> 53- Stokowski

DSCH 11

> 56- Szell

Schumann symphonies

> 58- Tenstedt

Mahler 8

> 59- Toscanini

Missa Solemnis

> 60- Walter

Mono Mozart symphonies / Sony


Ulvi

David M. Cook

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In article <Xns943BE41...@216.168.3.44>, ulvi wrote:

>> 39- Ormandy
>
> DSCH 8

Did Ormandy record the 8th?

Dave Cook

Matthew燘. Tepper

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No, but one of the ones he did record was another hour-long symphony
beginning in a minor key, the 4th.

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To hear a recording of Eugene Bigot, listen to Jose Luccioni's
rendition of "Source Delicieuse" at the following Yahoo Group:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/polyeuctebygounod

ulvi

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I'm not sure; but I must have meant to say DSCH 10.

Ulvi

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That's very good, too, but I think his 4th is surpassing, one of the best.

Diaz Philipp

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> If you were to select a single CD or a single work for every great
> conductor what would be your choice for the following great artists?
>

>

> Thanks for your replies in advance
>
> CT

1- Abendroth: Brahms 4
2- Ancerl: Dvorak 9 (with Czech Phil)
3- Barbirolli: Mahler 9 (with BPo)
4- Beecham: Gounod Faust
5- Van Beinum: Bruckner 9 / Schubert Unfinished
6- Boehm: hm... Strauss Frau ohne Schatten (Decca Recording)
7- Boult: Danse macabré (no joke!)
8- Britten: Frank Bridge Variations
9- Cantelli: Dukas Sorcerer's Apprentice and many more!
10- Celibidache: Mussorgsky Pictures (is never as impressive on disc
than he was live..., not really a brandnew info, I know)
11- Cluytens: Ravel Ma Mere l'Oye, Bizet Carmen, Offenbach Tales of
Hoffmann (1948)
12- C Davis: Berlioz Trojans
13- De Sabata: Puccini Tosca, Wolf-Ferrari Susanna's Secret Overture
14- Dorati: Respighi Ancient Dances & Airs / Copland Appalachian
Spring
15- Fricsay: Bartok Concerto for Orchestra / Shostakovich 9
16- Furtwaengler: Schumann 4, Wagner Tristan Prelude (1943?)
17- Haitink: Debussy Images
18- Horenstein: Brahms 1
19- E Jochum: Mozart Abduction
20- Kabasta: ?
21- Karajan: Bizet L'Arlesienne Suites (with Philharmonia)
22- Kempe: Strauss Till Eulenspiegel (with Dresden Staatskapelle)
23- Kleiber: Erich: Strauss Rosenkavalier; Carlos: Beethoven 4-7
Brahms 4
24- Klemperer: Beethoven 3 (EMI 1955), Bach Brandenburg 5
25- Kletzki: Lutoslawski Concerto for Orchestra
26- Knappertsbusch: Wagner Parsifal (1960 or 1962), Viennese Waltzes
27- Kondrashin: Shostakowitsch 9
28- Koussevitzky: Copland Appalachian Spring
29- Kubelik: Mahler Lied von der Erde (wonderful live recording on
Audite!)
30- Leinsdorf: Mahler 5
31- Maderna: ?
32- Malko: ?
33- Markevitch: Berlioz La Damnation de Faust
34- Mengelberg: Strauss Heldenleben (with NYP) / Brahms 2
35- Miravinsky: Tchaikovsky 4-6
36- Mitropoulos: Strauss Elektra
37- Monteux: Ravel Rapsodie / Beethoven 2 (with NDR SO)
38- Munch: Beethoven Prometheus Overture / Debussy Prelude...
39- Ormandy: Berlioz Symphonie Fantastique / Shostakovich 4, 5
40- Van otterloo: ?
41- Pfitzner: Beethoven 6
42- Reiner: Bartók Music for String, Percussion and Celesta
43- Rodzinsky: Tchaikovsky Nutcracker
44- Rosbaud: Messiaen Turangalila / Strauss Zarathustra / Schoenberg 5
Pieces
45- Sanderling: Shostakovich 15
46- Scherchen: Beethoven 3 / Resnicek Donna Diana Overture
47- Schmidt-Isserstedt: ?
48- Schuricht: Bruckner 9
49- Sejna: Dvorak 6, Slavonic Dances
50- Silvestri: Rimsky Sheherazade
51- Smetacek: ?
52- Solti: Wagner Ring / Rossini L'Italiana Overture (with London
Philharmonic)
53- Stokowski: Albeniz Arrangements (with National Philharmonic)
54- R Strauss: Alpine Symphony
55- Stravinsky: Le Sacre du Printemps (with Columbia Symphony)
56- Szell: Mozart 33 / Strauss Four Last Songs
57- Talich: Dvorak 8
58- Tenstedt: Brahms Violin Concerto (with Ulf Hoelscher)
59- Toscanini: Beethoven 3 (1939) / Verdi La Forza Overture
60- Walter: Mahler 5, Brahms 3 (with Columbia SO)
61- Weingartner: Beethoven 6 (with Royal Philharmonic)

Chris Martin

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Nov 24, 2003, 12:16:25 PM11/24/03
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Sinopoli _ Schubert's Unfinished
Blomstedt - Schubert's 9th
> 3- Barbirolli - Elgar cello concerto with Du Pre
> 6- Boehm - Beethoven's 9th
> 12- C Davis - Sibelius 1,2,4,5
> 16- Furtwaengler - Schubert's 9th
> 19- E Jochum - Brahms piano concertos
> 21- Karajan - Four Last Songs; Metamorphosen; Death and Transfig
> 22- Kempe - anything by R Strauss (available at BRO btw)
> 23- Kleiber - Brahms 4th
> 24- Klemperer - Das Lied von der Erde
> 29- Kubelik - Dvorak 7,8,9
> 35- Mravinsky - Tchaikovsky 4,5,6
> 37- Monteux - Franck symphony
> 42- Reiner - La Mer
>

aesthete8

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Nov 24, 2003, 11:27:09 PM11/24/03
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Concerning Ackermann, listen to Regine Crespin's 1st(?) recital lp
which came out on EMI, esp. the intro to "Sombre Foret".

Ackermann was also the conductor on Schwarzkopf's first recording of
THE 4 LAST SONGS.

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