8 piano concertos that deserve to be more widely known....
dave12122
second? (yawn) or Tschaikowsky's 1st? (double yawn!) Well, so am I.
Here are eight little known piano concertos that deserve a listen.
Please give them a chance:
1. Flagello: Piano Concerto #2
Flagello is certainly an unjustly neglected composer, and this early
work, sounding somewhat like Shostakovich's 2nd piano concerto is a
delight. There is a "romantic" outburst in the 2nd movement that is
mind boggling in its intensity. Also on the CD is the 3rd piano
concerto, of tougher argument yet similarly compelling. Good
performance and sound, although I had never heard of Rankovitz or the
Slovak Phiharmonic Orchestra!
2. Lloyd: Piano Concerto #4
Stott gives the performance of a lifetime on this Albany CD. The 4th
piano concerto is a somewhat decadent piece, sounding like a cross
between a movie score and the Pachelbel Canon. However, there are
enough wonderful moments, especially in the 2nd movement to justify
such carefully controlled kitsch. A further attraction of the CD is
Stott's incredible performance of The Lily Leaf and The Grasshopper.
This solo piano work is performed with enough half shadings to satisfy
Monet, and the piano sounds detailed and realistic.
3. Williamson: Piano Concerto #2 (for piano and strings)
This old EMI set with the composer at the piano is the one to have. I
liked the Williamson #2 at first hearing, the 1st movement is kind of
like a Prokofiev/Stravinsky hybrid, the second movement is searingly
eloquent, and the last movement is nothing else but good fun. I
really like the unpretentious quality of this work....he is reacting
against the stuffy, serious stereotype of the 20th century piano
concerto and the result is a light work with beautiful melodies and a
powerful central movement.
4. Willian: Piano concerto in C minor
Although this work is far from perfect structurally, there are enough
masterfully scored sections to repay repeated listening. Imagine if
Elgar and Rachmaninoff had teamed up to write a piano concerto...this
would be the result. The opening of the second movement is haunting,
and the subsequent peroration of the main theme toward the close
simply thrilling. Unfortunately the playing of the Toronto Symphony
Orchestra with a pianist I've never heard of is rather pedestrian, and
the Rachmaninoff Concerto #2 coupling has to be one of the slowest on
CDs! But, I would buy this for the Willan alone.
5. Villa-Lobos: Concerto #2
Ortiz offers this as part of a box set of all 5 concertos. There is
something about this concerto that seems a cut above the others..maybe
it's a theme that appears midway through the slow movement, one of the
most compelling Villa-Lobos ever wrote, and something that deserves to
be shouted from the mountaintops. (all right, would you settle for a
large hill!) Actually all the concerti are worth a listen, even the
rather experimental first. For a more colorful Rachmaninoffian sound
with a less complicated structure try the Villa-Lobos concerti. I
find they improve on each relistening!
6. Oldham- Piano Concerto
There is a sad story surrounding this composition. Composed when the
composer was very sick with AIDS, he nevertheless premiered it with
great success, only to pass away some 3 months later. As with all
pieces composed in a rush, the concerto is best thought of as a "work
in progress" which unfortunately will probably never get the revision
it needs. The second movement is by far the most successful,
featuring a gentle theme that develops into a grand climax. The first
movement is reminiscent of Barber, Rosza, and the theme from The
Godfather. It goes on far too long for its content, and flags
horribly in the middle. As for the last movement, it is best
described as Leonard Bernstein on steroids. This work is one of an
interesting program of five composers who are presumably no longer
with us as the result of AIDS. Certainly worth investigating, and was
available very cheaply on amazon.com rather recently.
7. Delius- Piano Concerto
This is probably the most well known of the works listed here, but I'm
surprised at the number of people who have never heard of it. Like
other early Delius (Florida Suite) there is an emphasis on lovely
melody, subtle shadings/harmonies, and atmosphere, mixed together with
Lisztian flourishes and difficult double note passages. The tunes are
out-and-out gorgeous, the orchestration masterly, and the closing
pages the most grandiose in all of Delius' output, The Mass of Life
excepted. I like the Lane interpretation on CD, since that disc also
includes the Vaughan Williams piano concerto, another superb work.
However, the LP performance with Beecham's wife at the piano is
notable as well, IF you can find it!!
8. Pierne: Piano Concerto
Pierne is generally a likeable composer, not at all profound but
optimistic in output and likely to "lift your spirit". The last
movement of this is particulary masterly, and has shades of
Rachmaninoff with its immensely attractive "big tune"and virtuosic
display. Part of a boxed set featuring rare French Piano Concertos by
Massenet, etc. I believe released by Vox but am away from my CD
collection so can't say for sure. Sound fair to good throughout the
collection, typical of Vox.
If anyone has heard any of these, please share your reactions, pro or
con....or offer your own lists of recommended "remote" concerti...I'm
sure many on this forum have their favorite piano concerti that may
have only had a limited release, so please let us know about your
"finds"
Dave DeLucia
Matthew B. Tepper (posts from uswest.net are forged)
new life on "pops" concerts at the very least, and I do not mean that as an
insult in anyway.
I agree with you not at all about the Delius, a work which I find as
formless as that blob of whalemeat-or-whatever that washed up off the shore
of Chile a few weeks ago.
Allow me to add seven of mine:
Otar Taktakishvili, Piano Concerto #1
Romantic in language, classical in size and form (including a charming
scherzo), I find this the younger but handsomer brother of the concerto by
OT's neighbor Khachaturian.
Ahmed Adnan Saygun, Piano Concerto #1
Modern but not too much so, available once upon a time on a Nonesuch LP
that came too late to be issued on CD. Our loss.
Frank Martin, Piano Concerto #2
Modern and uncompromising, serial yet not forbidding.
Arthur Honegger, Piano Concertino
Delight from beginning to end.
Robert Volkmann, Konzertstück
This is the Romantic work that nobody knows about; Schumann without the
hypertension, rather like "what if Hummel had lived an extra 30 years?"
Sir Hamilton Harty, Piano Concerto
If the Rachmaninoff #1 and #4 can receive occasional hearings, then why not
this one? Possibly the finest work by an Irishman known to me (apart from
Stanford's Requiem, perhaps).
Dinu Lipatti, Concertino in Classical Style
Crystalline perfection, particularly the moto perpetuo minuet.
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Andy Evans
to the radio a couple of weeks ago. Makes the Warsaw Concerto sound like
Rachmaninov.
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> Just so long as it's not the Yellow River or whatever it's called which
made it
> to the radio a couple of weeks ago. Makes the Warsaw Concerto sound like
> Rachmaninov.
>
Er, isn't the Warsaw Concerto _supposed_ to sound like Rachmaninov?
My own list, in no particular order
1. Moszkowski concerto in E-flat. A delight from beginning to end. I have
yet to hear a duff performance, so soloists must enjoy it too, despite the
amount of ink on most of the pages. A plug for more public performances!
2. Dohnanyi Concerto #1.More extravert than Brahms #1 with which it is
sometimes compared. I have not heard the Hyperion recording, but am still
fond of the "premiere" offering from the late Balint Vazsonyi, currently
o.o.p.
3. Bruch Concerto for 2 pianos Op. 88a. Whatever happened to recordings of
this work? After its "discovery" by the duo of Berkofsky and Twining, there
was at least one other recording on Lp. Nothing on CD, AFAIK. Apart from the
logistical problems, this could be a blast at a Promenade Concert.
4. Rota Concerto Soireé. One of his most witty creations, the slow, quiet
introduction grabs the attention right away.
5. Vladigerov Concerto 3. Far and away the most attractive and least
pretentious of the 5 by this composer. A heady mix of lush romantic, a
little Bartokian ascerbity (in the 3rd movement) and those irregular
Carpathian rhythms.
6. Skerjanc Concertino. Neo-classical, almost a pastiche with echoes of
Poulenc, it is saved from triviality by the superb soloist on the Lp
recording (Dubravka Tomsic-Srebotnjac).
7. de Greef. Concerto 1 in C minor. Another substantial romatic concerto. I
have not heard the Marco Polo disc which also offers No. 2, but the EMI
version with Jean-Claude Van den Eynden is excellent.
8. Frank Merrick concerto 2. I'm putting in a plug for this little known
English work as I cannot adequately judge it on the basis of the existing
recordings, one of the slow movement only, and the other, complete, with a
very inadequate amateur orchestra and the composer aged nearly 90, whose
technique had, alas, long deserted him.
Joel Warren Lidz
Joel
Vadim Batitsky
> Hello group: Tired of the umpteenth performance of Rachmaninoff's
> second? (yawn) or Tschaikowsky's 1st? (double yawn!) Well, so am I.
> Here are eight little known piano concertos that deserve a listen.
> Please give them a chance:
Many, many thanks for these tips. I would only add that there are
other 'cracks' in the history of music into which a number of
delightful concerti fell never to be heard in concerts offered to the
general public.
My personal 'lamentation' list focuses on the crack between
Beethoven and Chopin and includes
Moscheles G-minor concerto
Field 2nd, 3rd and 7th
Hummel A-minor and B-minor
Ries C#-minor
And, although of lesser stature as 'pure music', the following would
still be preferrable to the zillion's rendition of Schumann's concerto
or LvB's 4th:
Kalkbrenner D-minor
Clara Schumman A-minor
******************
Vadim.
dave12122
Thanks for your choices, Matt. I'm familiar with the Lipatti,Honegger
and Harty, like them all. (The slow movement of the Harty is really
superb!) Some performances of the Delius ARE formless, the Lane
version is "tighter" and the one to have.
Dave
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| Hello group: Tired of the umpteenth performance of Rachmaninoff's
| second? (yawn) or Tschaikowsky's 1st? (double yawn!) Well, so am I.
| Here are eight little known piano concertos that deserve a listen.
| Please give them a chance:
A good list, and one that touches merely the surface of accessible works
available to be played, let alone the slightly more difficult composers such
as Lutoslawski, Penderecki and others of their rank.
Joseph Marx - 1st piano concerto "Romantisches Klavierkonzert" (Romantic
Piano Concerto) in E major. First performed by Angelo Kessisoglu, and
subsequently performed and recorded by Gieseking, Jorge Bolet and Marc-André
Hamelin. I have Bolet's version, and it is quite amazing that such an arch
romantic work, and a highly virtuosic one at that, has been so relatively
neglected.
Check out Berkant Bryant's excellent Joseph Marx site below :-
http://www.joseph-marx.org/en/
As for other piano concertos, that SHOULD be better known, then they are too
numerous to mention, but Ginastera, Tveitt, Williamson, Edwards, Vine are
just some composers ottomh who have written piano concertos, and which are
readily available on either Naxos, ABC Classics, not to mention Tippett, and
Britten, whose Op.13 has been recorded by Richter. Essentially, there is a
glut of great works waiting to be better known, not only piano concertos,
but as long as resources and star names are devoted to maintaining umpteen
versions of warhorses, then classical music is just shooting itself in the
foot. Again and again and again. Just my 5c worth.
As for the neglect of Joseph Marx, then that alone is just unforgiveable.
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Alan Cooper
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>A favorite of mine is the Peter Mennin concerto with John Ogdon.
Interesting. The work has always struck me as little more than an
endurance test for the pianist (Ogdon certainly passes!)--souped up
Bartok. Anyone who is curious can pick it up for $3.99 from Berkshire
(on CRI). The CD is worth having, imo, because it also contains
Mennin's 7th Symphony, a marvelous piece in a beautiful performance.
AC
Steve Molino
Rosenberg concertos. The Ligeti has gotten a lot of play lately so perhaps
it no longer fits, but I really like that work a lot.
Steve Molino
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I like the Mennin a lot too. Bartok on acid is perhaps closer. The Ogdon
performance is great, as is that entire disc.
Sol L. Siegel
least these two get played from time to time.
-Sol Siegel, Philadelphia, PA
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Matthew B. Tepper (posts from uswest.net are forged)
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> OTTOMH, I am particularly fond of the Stenhammar, Saeverud, Sessions,
> and Rosenberg concertos. The Ligeti has gotten a lot of play lately so
> perhaps it no longer fits, but I really like that work a lot.
Didn't the Stenhammar manuscript (or a fair copy) actually turn up? One
could compare it with the Rosenberg reconstruction.
Matthew B. Tepper (posts from uswest.net are forged)
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> 2. Dohnanyi Concerto #1.More extravert than Brahms #1 with which it is
> sometimes compared. I have not heard the Hyperion recording, but am
> still fond of the "premiere" offering from the late Balint Vazsonyi,
> currently o.o.p.
I don't consider either of Dohnanyi's concerti a match for his "Nursery
Theme" Variations, but what the hey. By the way, Vazsonyi turns out to have
been a Libertarian kook, and even wrote a book about his politics.
> 3. Bruch Concerto for 2 pianos Op. 88a. Whatever happened to recordings
> of this work? After its "discovery" by the duo of Berkofsky and Twining,
> there was at least one other recording on Lp. Nothing on CD, AFAIK.
> Apart from the logistical problems, this could be a blast at a Promenade
> Concert.
Ahem, les soeurs Labèque recorded it with Bychkov/Philharmonia for Philips.
> 7. de Greef. Concerto 1 in C minor. Another substantial romatic
> concerto. I have not heard the Marco Polo disc which also offers No. 2,
> but the EMI version with Jean-Claude Van den Eynden is excellent.
I'll have to give this another hearing; it shares a CD with the Joseph Jongen
Symphonie Concertante for organ and orchestra, doesn't it?
Matthew B. Tepper (posts from uswest.net are forged)
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> Thanks for your choices, Matt. I'm familiar with the Lipatti,Honegger
> and Harty, like them all. (The slow movement of the Harty is really
> superb!) Some performances of the Delius ARE formless, the Lane
> version is "tighter" and the one to have.
Well, I'm of the feeling that if Benno can't persuade me, nobody can.
Besides, my opinion of Delius and his music is that he should have the word
"big" in front of his surname.
Matthew B. Tepper (posts from uswest.net are forged)
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> Just so long as it's not the Yellow River or whatever it's called which
> made it to the radio a couple of weeks ago. Makes the Warsaw Concerto
> sound like Rachmaninov.
I remember back in the 1970s when the Philadelphia Orchestra visited China,
and Daniel Epstein (whatever happened to him?) accompanied them, and also
recorded this work with them. What a pile of rubbish; and I also remember
thinking at the time that if we ever lost the Cold War, let it be to the
Russians, because at least then at least we'll have real music.
My ultimate conclusion was that the river was yellow because so many
"committee members' had peed into it. (Apologies to any Chinese people
reading this, but you know I'm referring to *that specific composition*,
not to your country.)
Steve Molino
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> > OTTOMH, I am particularly fond of the Stenhammar, Saeverud, Sessions,
> > and Rosenberg concertos. The Ligeti has gotten a lot of play lately so
> > perhaps it no longer fits, but I really like that work a lot.
>
> Didn't the Stenhammar manuscript (or a fair copy) actually turn up? One
> could compare it with the Rosenberg reconstruction.
>
I believe you are referring to the 1st concerto. I should have been more
specific in my statement. It is the 2nd I am so enamored of.
Richard Schultz
:> 3. Bruch Concerto for 2 pianos Op. 88a. Whatever happened to recordings
:> of this work? After its "discovery" by the duo of Berkofsky and Twining,
:> there was at least one other recording on Lp. Nothing on CD, AFAIK.
:> Apart from the logistical problems, this could be a blast at a Promenade
:> Concert.
:
As he said, nothing on CD.
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> In article <Xns93B44E35E5A...@129.250.170.82>, "Matthew?B.
Tepper?(posts from uswest.net are forged)" <oy兀earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> :> 3. Bruch Concerto for 2 pianos Op. 88a. Whatever happened to recordings
> :> of this work? After its "discovery" by the duo of Berkofsky and
Twining,
> :> there was at least one other recording on Lp. Nothing on CD, AFAIK.
> :> Apart from the logistical problems, this could be a blast at a
Promenade
> :> Concert.
> :
> : Ahem, les soeurs Lab?que recorded it with Bychkov/Philharmonia for
Philips.
>
> As he said, nothing on CD.
>
Thanks. Moreover, I have long preferred les soeurs Pekinel, even though they
didn't.
Bob
Don Petter
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>In article <Xns93B44E35E5A...@129.250.170.82>, "Matthew?B. Tepper?(posts from uswest.net are forged)" <oy兀earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>:> 3. Bruch Concerto for 2 pianos Op. 88a. Whatever happened to recordings
>:> of this work? After its "discovery" by the duo of Berkofsky and Twining,
>:> there was at least one other recording on Lp. Nothing on CD, AFAIK.
>:> Apart from the logistical problems, this could be a blast at a Promenade
>:> Concert.
>:
>: Ahem, les soeurs Lab?que recorded it with Bychkov/Philharmonia for Philips.
>
>As he said, nothing on CD.
>
Well, if you don't want to count their CD (and I don't like them
either) there is/was a VOX twofer with it on (Berkofsky/Hagen/Herbig).
Don.
C R Lim
>> <.........>
Matthew B. Tepper wrote ...
>
> I don't consider either of Dohnanyi's concerti a match for his "Nursery
> Theme" Variations, but what the hey.
That _may_ account for why it gets played more often. Then, of course,
everyone knows the tune .........
> By the way, Vazsonyi turns out to have been a Libertarian kook,
> and even wrote a book about his politics.
So I believe. This could start a new thread - pianists who turned to
politics (Paderewski, Bar-Illan ....)
>> 7. de Greef. Concerto 1 in C minor. Another substantial romatic
>> concerto. I have not heard the Marco Polo disc which also offers No. 2,
>> but the EMI version with Jean-Claude Van den Eynden is excellent.
> I'll have to give this another hearing; it shares a CD with the Joseph
> JongenSymphonie Concertante for organ and orchestra, doesn't it?
Yes. And it's far from being just a filler.(IMO)
--
Bob
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remove same.)
David Sternlicht
A wonderfully tense and frenzied piece.
Luciano Berio: Points on a Curve to Find
Not technically a piano concerto, I guess, but still a delightfully
fluid piece that is brilliantly orchestrated.
Olivier Messiaen: Oiseaux exotiques
As above, not technicallly a piano concerto. Messiaen's generous
spirit shines through in this work with all the joy, wonder, and
optimism one would expect.
I wish more people would play Prokofiev's fifth....
---MIKE---
great recording with Earl Wild and the Boston Symphony under Leinsdorf.
This was originally an RCA LP but was reissued as ELAN CD 82266. The
scherzo is especially good.
-MIKE
Sonarrat
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I'm quite fond of the 4th concerto, as recorded by Hough with the Sauer 1st
concerto. One of my favorite concerto discs.
Medtner's three piano concertos surely deserve wider exposure than they receive,
with their bright, pastel colors and sparkling wit.
I also enjoy hearing Szymanowski's Sinfonie Concertante every once in a while.
-Sonarrat.
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Oh, and how could I not mention Robert Casadesus' concertos? He wrote three
piano/orchestra concertos, two of which have never been recorded - as well as a
concerto for two pianos and another for three pianos.
-Sonarrat.
Eric Schissel
>Bob
Labeque on Philips 432 095-2 (CD released 1993), Yarborough/Cowan on
Centaur CRC 2227 (CD released 1995), Pekinel as you say on Chandos CD 9711
(released 1999.) Or by nothing on CD was something else meant?
Eric Schissel
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>:> 3. Bruch Concerto for 2 pianos Op. 88a. Whatever happened to
>:> recordings of this work? After its "discovery" by the duo of
>:> Berkofsky and Twining, there was at least one other recording on Lp.
>:> Nothing on CD, AFAIK. Apart from the logistical problems, this could
>:> be a blast at a Promenade Concert.
>:
>: Ahem, les soeurs Lab?que recorded it with Bychkov/Philharmonia for
>: Philips.
>
> As he said, nothing on CD.
Maybe nothing that he *likes* on CD; it was 432 095-2, and that final "2"
means CD to anybody who knows the code.
Matthew B. Tepper (posts from uswest.net are forged)
>> By the way, Vazsonyi turns out to have been a Libertarian kook, and even
>> wrote a book about his politics.
>
> So I believe. This could start a new thread - pianists who turned to
> politics (Paderewski, Bar-Illan ....)
But please, I hope we never have to deal with Duchable in that regard!
John Gavin
First on my list is the Medtner PC#2 - a great concerto. #1 and 3 are
also marvelous - #3 perhaps too mellow to appear on concerto programs.
I second the Lipatti Concertino (a work that would fit beautifully in
one of those Mostly Mozart Concerts) - it breathes the spirit of Bach,
Scarlatti and Mozart.
The Sgambati Concerto? - I don't know it, but I'm curious - does it
deserve more recognition?
Mario Peragallo - Piano Concerto - this work was performed by
Michelangeli early in his career, and he greatly admired it. I don't
know it, but I'm very curious about it.
Sorabji - 3 Concerti for Piano and Large Orchestra
Symphony for Piano, Large Orchestra, Chorus and Organ
Again, I don't know them, but I'm very curious.
Charles Milton Ling
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> If anyone has heard any of these, please share your reactions, pro or
> con....or offer your own lists of recommended "remote" concerti...I'm
> sure many on this forum have their favorite piano concerti that may
> have only had a limited release, so please let us know about your
> "finds"
>
> Dave DeLucia
I am a bit surprised that Henselt's concerto has not been mentioned yet.
I have an LP with Raymond Lewenthal as the soloist that has given me
much pleasure for many years.
(Or is Henselt "mainstream" among the cognoscenti?)
All best,
Charley
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Charles Milton Ling
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C. R. Lim
>
>
> Labeque on Philips 432 095-2 (CD released 1993), Yarborough/Cowan on
> Centaur CRC 2227 (CD released 1995), Pekinel as you say on Chandos CD 9711
> (released 1999.) Or by nothing on CD was something else meant?
> Eric Schissel
>
I sit corrected, and a well-known contributor to this group is fond of
saying. Somehow, all these seem to have passed me by ........
Scott Kurtz
1. Leonard Bernstein's Age of Anxiety, a symphony with a prominent
concertante piano part.
2. William Mayer's Octagon
3. Claus Ogerman's Symbiosis (written for Bill Evans; truly haunting, not to
be confused with the blatantly self-plagiarized rearrangements of said
piece he more recently concocted entitled Concerto for Piano and Concerto
for Orchestra)
4. Gyorgy Ranki's "1514" for Piano and Orchestra (Ranki is probably one of
the best Hungarian composers since Bartok and Kodaly)
5. Alan Rawsthorne's two piano concertos
6. Alberto Ginastera's two piano concertos
7. Carlos Chavez's Piano Concerto
8. Akira Yashiro's Piano Concerto
9. John LaMontaine's Birds of Paradise (more memorable than his several
numbered Piano Concertos)
10. Peter Sculthorpe's Piano Concerto
dave12122 <mrd...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Hello group: Tired of the umpteenth performance of Rachmaninoff's
> second? (yawn) or Tschaikowsky's 1st? (double yawn!) Well, so am I.
> Here are eight little known piano concertos that deserve a listen.
> Please give them a chance:
>
>
> Flagello is certainly an unjustly neglected composer, and this early
> work, sounding somewhat like Shostakovich's 2nd piano concerto is a
> delight. There is a "romantic" outburst in the 2nd movement that is
> mind boggling in its intensity. Also on the CD is the 3rd piano
> concerto, of tougher argument yet similarly compelling. Good
> performance and sound, although I had never heard of Rankovitz or the
> Slovak Phiharmonic Orchestra!
>
> 2. Lloyd: Piano Concerto #4
>
> Stott gives the performance of a lifetime on this Albany CD. The 4th
> piano concerto is a somewhat decadent piece, sounding like a cross
> between a movie score and the Pachelbel Canon. However, there are
> enough wonderful moments, especially in the 2nd movement to justify
> such carefully controlled kitsch. A further attraction of the CD is
> Stott's incredible performance of The Lily Leaf and The Grasshopper.
> This solo piano work is performed with enough half shadings to satisfy
> Monet, and the piano sounds detailed and realistic.
>
> 3. Williamson: Piano Concerto #2 (for piano and strings)
>
> This old EMI set with the composer at the piano is the one to have. I
> liked the Williamson #2 at first hearing, the 1st movement is kind of
> like a Prokofiev/Stravinsky hybrid, the second movement is searingly
> eloquent, and the last movement is nothing else but good fun. I
> really like the unpretentious quality of this work....he is reacting
> against the stuffy, serious stereotype of the 20th century piano
> concerto and the result is a light work with beautiful melodies and a
> powerful central movement.
>
> 4. Willian: Piano concerto in C minor
>
> Although this work is far from perfect structurally, there are enough
> masterfully scored sections to repay repeated listening. Imagine if
> Elgar and Rachmaninoff had teamed up to write a piano concerto...this
> would be the result. The opening of the second movement is haunting,
> and the subsequent peroration of the main theme toward the close
> simply thrilling. Unfortunately the playing of the Toronto Symphony
> Orchestra with a pianist I've never heard of is rather pedestrian, and
> the Rachmaninoff Concerto #2 coupling has to be one of the slowest on
> CDs! But, I would buy this for the Willan alone.
>
> 5. Villa-Lobos: Concerto #2
>
> Ortiz offers this as part of a box set of all 5 concertos. There is
> something about this concerto that seems a cut above the others..maybe
> it's a theme that appears midway through the slow movement, one of the
> most compelling Villa-Lobos ever wrote, and something that deserves to
> be shouted from the mountaintops. (all right, would you settle for a
> large hill!) Actually all the concerti are worth a listen, even the
> rather experimental first. For a more colorful Rachmaninoffian sound
> with a less complicated structure try the Villa-Lobos concerti. I
> find they improve on each relistening!
>
> 6. Oldham- Piano Concerto
>
> There is a sad story surrounding this composition. Composed when the
> composer was very sick with AIDS, he nevertheless premiered it with
> great success, only to pass away some 3 months later. As with all
> pieces composed in a rush, the concerto is best thought of as a "work
> in progress" which unfortunately will probably never get the revision
> it needs. The second movement is by far the most successful,
> featuring a gentle theme that develops into a grand climax. The first
> movement is reminiscent of Barber, Rosza, and the theme from The
> Godfather. It goes on far too long for its content, and flags
> horribly in the middle. As for the last movement, it is best
> described as Leonard Bernstein on steroids. This work is one of an
> interesting program of five composers who are presumably no longer
> with us as the result of AIDS. Certainly worth investigating, and was
> available very cheaply on amazon.com rather recently.
>
> 7. Delius- Piano Concerto
>
> This is probably the most well known of the works listed here, but I'm
> surprised at the number of people who have never heard of it. Like
> other early Delius (Florida Suite) there is an emphasis on lovely
> melody, subtle shadings/harmonies, and atmosphere, mixed together with
> Lisztian flourishes and difficult double note passages. The tunes are
> out-and-out gorgeous, the orchestration masterly, and the closing
> pages the most grandiose in all of Delius' output, The Mass of Life
> excepted. I like the Lane interpretation on CD, since that disc also
> includes the Vaughan Williams piano concerto, another superb work.
> However, the LP performance with Beecham's wife at the piano is
> notable as well, IF you can find it!!
>
> 8. Pierne: Piano Concerto
>
> Pierne is generally a likeable composer, not at all profound but
> optimistic in output and likely to "lift your spirit". The last
> movement of this is particulary masterly, and has shades of
> Rachmaninoff with its immensely attractive "big tune"and virtuosic
> display. Part of a boxed set featuring rare French Piano Concertos by
> Massenet, etc. I believe released by Vox but am away from my CD
> collection so can't say for sure. Sound fair to good throughout the
> collection, typical of Vox.
Kai Czepiczka
Otto Malling's C minor concerto, op.43
available on dacapo
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> > Thanks for your choices, Matt. I'm familiar with the Lipatti,Honegger
> > and Harty, like them all. (The slow movement of the Harty is really
> > superb!) Some performances of the Delius ARE formless, the Lane
> > version is "tighter" and the one to have.
>
> Well, I'm of the feeling that if Benno can't persuade me, nobody can.
> Besides, my opinion of Delius and his music is that he should have the word
> "big" in front of his surname.
I didn't know the Delius concerto before I got the Lane/Handley
recording of it, and I must say it made a better impression on me than
most of this composer's music. Not that I dislike Delius at all, but
when I listen to his works I can't help thinking "Holst without the
tunes" which may not be entirely fair to Delius, but there it is.
Anyway, with the RVW Concerto and Finzi's Eclogue, Lane's disc is a
very fine one.
I'll cast another vote for the Carlos Chávez concerto. It's not
everyone's cuppa, and maybe it does go on a bit more than it should,
but I still like it a lot. And there's finally a modern recording on
CD, by Osorio, which I had a tough time getting some months ago but
now seems to be easily available (and inexpensive) at Amazon.
Van Eyes
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> I didn't know the Delius concerto before I got the Lane/Handley
> recording of it, and I must say it made a better impression on me than
> most of this composer's music. Not that I dislike Delius at all, but
> when I listen to his works I can't help thinking "Holst without the
> tunes" which may not be entirely fair to Delius, but there it is.
> Anyway, with the RVW Concerto and Finzi's Eclogue, Lane's disc is a
> very fine one.
I don't know what there's not to like about Delius' music, but I guess
people say that about Ives, Schnittke, or Stockhausen, too.
It is a good thing that North Americans can now inexpensively
investigate Delius, through the EMI CfP reissues.
Ken Russell's, "Song of Summer" shouldn't be missed either...
http://www.musicweb.uk.net/film/2002/Jan02/DVD_delius.html
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So which of these are you going to carry in your repertoire once you begin
touring? That's how a concerto escapes "curiosity value" to acquire
"fringe repertory" status.
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> A few more I would add:
> 1. Leonard Bernstein's Age of Anxiety, a symphony with a prominent
> concertante piano part.
Indeed yes; if it were named a concerto, I would even class it among the
greatest such works by an American.
Enno Riekena
> I'm
> sure many on this forum have their favorite piano concerti that may
> have only had a limited release, so please let us know about your
> "finds"
Massenet's Piano Concerto - full of the sun of Southern France and tasty
like a glass of Pastis...
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> Just so long as it's not the Yellow River or whatever it's called which
> made it to the radio a couple of weeks ago. Makes the Warsaw Concerto
> sound like Rachmaninov.
I remember back in the 1970s when the Philadelphia Orchestra visited China,
and Daniel Epstein (whatever happened to him?) accompanied them, and also
recorded this work with them. What a pile of rubbish; and I also remember
thinking at the time that if we ever lost the Cold War, let it be to the
Russians, because at least then at least we'll have real music.
My ultimate conclusion was that the river was yellow because so many
"committee members' had peed into it. (Apologies to any Chinese people
reading this, but you know I'm referring to *that specific composition*,
not to your country.)
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>> By the way, Vazsonyi turns out to have been a Libertarian kook, and even
>> wrote a book about his politics.
>
> So I believe. This could start a new thread - pianists who turned to
> politics (Paderewski, Bar-Illan ....)
But please, I hope we never have to deal with Duchable in that regard!
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> Thanks for your choices, Matt. I'm familiar with the Lipatti,Honegger
> and Harty, like them all. (The slow movement of the Harty is really
> superb!) Some performances of the Delius ARE formless, the Lane
> version is "tighter" and the one to have.
Well, I'm of the feeling that if Benno can't persuade me, nobody can.
Besides, my opinion of Delius and his music is that he should have the word
"big" in front of his surname.
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> OTTOMH, I am particularly fond of the Stenhammar, Saeverud, Sessions,
> and Rosenberg concertos. The Ligeti has gotten a lot of play lately so
> perhaps it no longer fits, but I really like that work a lot.
Didn't the Stenhammar manuscript (or a fair copy) actually turn up? One
could compare it with the Rosenberg reconstruction.
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Arthur Honegger, Piano Concertino
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> 2. Dohnanyi Concerto #1.More extravert than Brahms #1 with which it is
> sometimes compared. I have not heard the Hyperion recording, but am
> still fond of the "premiere" offering from the late Balint Vazsonyi,
> currently o.o.p.
I don't consider either of Dohnanyi's concerti a match for his "Nursery
Theme" Variations, but what the hey. By the way, Vazsonyi turns out to have
been a Libertarian kook, and even wrote a book about his politics.
> 3. Bruch Concerto for 2 pianos Op. 88a. Whatever happened to recordings
> of this work? After its "discovery" by the duo of Berkofsky and Twining,
> there was at least one other recording on Lp. Nothing on CD, AFAIK.
> Apart from the logistical problems, this could be a blast at a Promenade
> Concert.
Ahem, les soeurs Labèque recorded it with Bychkov/Philharmonia for Philips.
> 7. de Greef. Concerto 1 in C minor. Another substantial romatic
> concerto. I have not heard the Marco Polo disc which also offers No. 2,
> but the EMI version with Jean-Claude Van den Eynden is excellent.
I'll have to give this another hearing; it shares a CD with the Joseph Jongen
Symphonie Concertante for organ and orchestra, doesn't it?
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> In article <Xns93B44E35E5A...@129.250.170.82>, "Matthew?B.
> Tepper?(posts from uswest.net are forged)" <oyþ@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>:> 3. Bruch Concerto for 2 pianos Op. 88a. Whatever happened to
>:> recordings of this work? After its "discovery" by the duo of
>:> Berkofsky and Twining, there was at least one other recording on Lp.
>:> Nothing on CD, AFAIK. Apart from the logistical problems, this could
>:> be a blast at a Promenade Concert.
>:
>: Ahem, les soeurs Lab?que recorded it with Bychkov/Philharmonia for
>: Philips.
>
> As he said, nothing on CD.
Maybe nothing that he *likes* on CD; it was 432 095-2, and that final "2"
means CD to anybody who knows the code.
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Sonarrat
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> "Sonarrat" (sona...@postmark.net) writes:
> > "---MIKE---" <twinmo...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > news:19105-3F0...@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net...
> >> Doesn't anyone like the Scharwenka Piano Concerto No. 1? There is a
> >> great recording with Earl Wild and the Boston Symphony under Leinsdorf.
> >> This was originally an RCA LP but was reissued as ELAN CD 82266. The
> >> scherzo is especially good.
> > I'm quite fond of the 4th concerto, as recorded by Hough with the Sauer 1st
> > concerto. One of my favorite concerto discs.
> >
> > Medtner's three piano concertos surely deserve wider exposure than they
receive,
> > with their bright, pastel colors and sparkling wit.
> >
> > I also enjoy hearing Szymanowski's Sinfonie Concertante every once in a
while.
> So which of these are you going to carry in your repertoire once you begin
> touring? That's how a concerto escapes "curiosity value" to acquire
> "fringe repertory" status.
I suspect I will never tour. I have this desire to actually make money, see, so
I'll probably base my career in the other discipline in which I was a prodigy,
mathematics... I'll be the CPA that DK thinks Perahia sounds like. If I do get
the chance to perform with an orchestra, though, I already know the Scriabin
Concerto, and I have a good chunk of the Medtner 2nd concerto memorized. I'd
love to learn and play the Szymanowski, and the Lutoslawski Concerto. But don't
get me wrong. I wouldn't touch the Grieg concerto with a 10-foot pole, but I
would love to perform the Schumann (along with the two other works for piano and
orchestra).
-Sonarrat.
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> The Sgambati Concerto? - I don't know it, but I'm curious - does it
> deserve more recognition?
I think it does. Sgambati's music is rather indulgent, but it is interesting
and engaging on repeated listenings. He and Martucci were the two Italian
Romantics who stayed away from opera and, rarely for composers from that country
during that time, didn't neglect the piano. They were rather similar to each
other stylistically and rather different from anyone else. One thing to note is
that structure was of little importance to either of them. The first movement
of the Sgambati Concerto is perhaps the loosest sonata-allegro form I know, but
you also encounter sound-worlds that can't be found anywhere else.
-Sonarrat.