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Stephen Green

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Jan 7, 2004, 4:25:27 PM1/7/04
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I just heard Rossini's William Tell Overture on NPR. They said the
recording was Reiner/Chicago on RCA 60387.

I was wondering who the principal cellist was for this recording. Could it
be Starker? I don't know the history of the Chicago principals...

Thanks for your help.

Stephen


JRsnfld

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Jan 7, 2004, 5:46:57 PM1/7/04
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<< I just heard Rossini's William Tell Overture on NPR. They said the
recording was Reiner/Chicago on RCA 60387. >>

I can't find my CD copy of this, but my lp says 1959, and I believe Starker's
last season with the CSO was 1957-58. I've always assumed the solo was played
by Frank Miller.

--Jeff

Dontaitchicago

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Jan 7, 2004, 7:21:01 PM1/7/04
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>Subject: William Tell Cellist?
>From: "Stephen Green" sgre...@spamcharter.net
>Date: 1/7/2004 3:25 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <vvou5qj...@corp.supernews.com>

The solo 'cellist was Mihaly Virizlay. The recording was made on November 22,
1958 in morning and evening sessions that encompassed all of the Rossini
overtures that Reiner and the CSO did for what became RCA Victor LM/LSC-2318 et
cetera (William Tell was made in the 10AM - 1PM session). This is from the RCA
sheets.

I don't know the dates of the CSO principal 'cellists at this time. I'm sure
others do, and it would be good to know. Starker may have left in the spring of
1958. Virizlay may have succeeded him for 1958/9, followed by a season of Frank
Miller, then one with Robert LaMarchina (1960/1 - I know that's correct), then
Frank again. Help?

Don Tait


GMS

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Jan 7, 2004, 10:31:32 PM1/7/04
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jrs...@aol.com (JRsnfld) wrote in message news:<20040107174657...@mb-m10.aol.com>...

The solo on this record is played by Mihaly Virizlay (apologies if
I've spelled the name incorrectly), most recently the Principal
Cellist of the Baltimore Symphony. If I remember correctly, he was
Principal Cellist in Chicago for one year between Starker and Miller.
BTW, when Miller joined in the '59-'60 season, he needed to leave for
the '60-'61 season to fulfil some previously arranged conducting
commitments. The cellist for THAT season was Robert LaMarchina
(recently deceased). Miller returned in '61 and played until illness
forced him to stop in '85. He passed away in early '86.

Heck51

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Jan 7, 2004, 11:48:30 PM1/7/04
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Stephen Green wrote

"I just heard Rossini's William Tell Overture on NPR. They said the
> recording was Reiner/Chicago on RCA 60387.
>
> I was wondering who the principal cellist was for this recording. Could it
> be Starker? I don't know the history of the Chicago principals..."

Mihaly Virizlay is the solo cellist on that recording - 11/58

Starker, János Cello (Principal) 1953 - 1958
***Virizlay, Mihaly Cello (Principal) 1958 - 1959***
Miller, Frank Cello (Principal 1959-60, 1961-85) 1959 - 1985

Eric Nagamine

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Jan 8, 2004, 1:36:28 AM1/8/04
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GMS wrote:

What did old time CSO cellists think of LaMarchina? I still treasure his
solo in the Brahms 2nd PC with Richter/Leinsdorf. While he was somewhat
inconsistant as a conductor here in Honolulu, he was a very musical
player in his few outings on the cello here. An old timer once told me
that he played circles around Jacquline du Pre when she visited here in
the 60's.

--
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Aloha and Mahalo,

Eric Nagamine
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/mahlerb/broadcaststartpage.html

GMS

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Jan 8, 2004, 8:10:35 AM1/8/04
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Eric Nagamine <en...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message news:<MT6Lb.43022$C87....@twister.socal.rr.com>...


LaMarchina was highly regarded and fondly remembered by the "old time"
CSO cellists. The Internet Cello Society is currently running an
excellent profile of him at the following address:
http://www.cello.org/Newsletter/Articles/lamarchina/lamarchina.htm
Cheers, Gary Stucka (Cellist, Chicago Symphony Orchestra)

David Sanders

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Jan 8, 2004, 10:21:30 AM1/8/04
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Eric Nagamine <en...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message news:<MT6Lb.43022$C87....@twister.socal.rr.com>...
> GMS wrote:
>
> > jrs...@aol.com (JRsnfld) wrote in message news:<20040107174657...@mb-m10.aol.com>...
> >
> >><< I just heard Rossini's William Tell Overture on NPR. They said the
> >>recording was Reiner/Chicago on RCA 60387. >>
> >>
> >>I can't find my CD copy of this, but my lp says 1959, and I believe Starker's
> >>last season with the CSO was 1957-58. I've always assumed the solo was played
> >>by Frank Miller.
> >>
> >>--Jeff
>
> What did old time CSO cellists think of LaMarchina? I still treasure his
> solo in the Brahms 2nd PC with Richter/Leinsdorf. While he was somewhat
> inconsistant as a conductor here in Honolulu, he was a very musical
> player in his few outings on the cello here. An old timer once told me
> that he played circles around Jacquline du Pre when she visited here in
> the 60's.

Everything I've ever heard from anyone over my 30 years in the CSO was
that LaMarchina was a fantastic cellist.
David Sanders

Stephen Green

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Jan 8, 2004, 11:50:57 AM1/8/04
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Thanks everyone for all the excellent information. I didn't know Virizlay
was ever principal of CSO. I only knew of him in his Baltimore years. The
William Tell solo is excellent and DOES have a little of the Starker sound.
Perhaps its a Hungarian thang...

BTW, I'm still looking for another Miller recording:

Martinu and Faure piano quartets (with Horszowski & co.)

I have LP copies (unfortunately no in great shape) of the Brahms Clarinet
Trio (with Kell & Horszowski) as well as the Beethoven Clarinet Trio (with
Miller and Horszowski) - Decca DL 9732 and 9543 respectively.

Are any of these on CD? Are there other chamber music recordings I should
look for?

Take care.

Stephen


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Jan 8, 2004, 12:18:52 PM1/8/04
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On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 08:50:57 -0800, "Stephen Green"
<sgre...@spamcharter.net> wrote:

>Thanks everyone for all the excellent information. I didn't know Virizlay
>was ever principal of CSO. I only knew of him in his Baltimore years. The
>William Tell solo is excellent and DOES have a little of the Starker sound.
>Perhaps its a Hungarian thang...
>
>BTW, I'm still looking for another Miller recording:
>
>Martinu and Faure piano quartets (with Horszowski & co.)
>
>I have LP copies (unfortunately no in great shape) of the Brahms Clarinet
>Trio (with Kell & Horszowski) as well as the Beethoven Clarinet Trio (with
>Miller and Horszowski) - Decca DL 9732 and 9543 respectively.
>
>Are any of these on CD? Are there other chamber music recordings I should
>look for?

I am not aware of any of Kell's American Decca LPs making it to CD.
The only possibility, I imagine, would be in Japan. But some of their
historical releases have very short shelf life, e.g. the Szymon
Goldberg two boxed sets.

TD

Dontaitchicago

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Jan 8, 2004, 7:18:00 PM1/8/04
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>Subject: Re: William Tell Cellist?
>From: slidem...@aol.com (GMS)
>Date: 1/8/2004 7:10 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <1a241a8f.0401...@posting.google.com>

May I add a vivid memory of mine about Robert LaMarchina to what Gary and
David and everyone else has written?

I attended the CSO concert of December 15, 1960. Leopold Stokowski conducted.
It was an overwhelming night in Orchestra Hall; the CSO gave Stokowski a tusch
at the end of Shostakovich's 5th Symphony and the audience screamed and went
crazy, including me. (Standard Stokowski/Chicago Symphony stuff, which was
supreme: if only we had recordings.)

After the concert my friend and I decided that we wanted to go backstage at
Orchestra Hall and try to meet Stokowski. We didn't succeed, but we got to a
small dressing room in the hallway and there was Robert LaMarchina sitting on a
chair in the doorway, playing his 'cello. He was still wearing his white tie
and tails and was playing away - looking up at two or three extremely
attractive young women (college students?) who were eyeing him with - awe and
admiration. He was eyeing them back, too!

But I hope you all know that's incidental: Robert LaMarchina was a superb
artist and musician.

Don Tait

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