Maxim Vengerov...
WannabeHurd
Most great violinists do... I wonder why, BTW.
Matthew B. Tepper
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> Just wondering, does he have Jewish ancestry?
> Most great violinists do... I wonder why, BTW.
Does it matter?
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WannabeHurd
Matthew B. Tepper wrote:
> "WannabeHurd" <aqui...@yahoo.ca> appears to have caused the following
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> > Just wondering, does he have Jewish ancestry?
> > Most great violinists do... I wonder why, BTW.
>
> Does it matter?
>
Well yes: if I could *hypothetically* isolate that particular gene, and
give it to my kid, he'd have a greater chance of becoming a great
violinist himself.
abac...@att.net
Matthew B. Tepper wrote:
> "WannabeHurd" <aqui...@yahoo.ca> appears to have caused the following
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> > Just wondering, does he have Jewish ancestry?
> > Most great violinists do... I wonder why, BTW.
>
> Does it matter?
>
Matt,
dont mimimize this issue...... it is very significant:-)
AB
Andy Evans
give it to my kid, he'd have a greater chance of becoming a great
violinist himself. >
Have you read about Isaac Babel who locked himself in the toilet to
avoid violin lessons his dear father pushed him into?
Arietta
Paul Ilechko
Yes, in fact all Jews are great violinists. Fortunately you can catch
Jewishness by living in the same neighborhood, it's highly infectious.
Bob Lombard
"Paul Ilechko" <noSPaM_pile...@patmedia.net> wrote
in message news:3u4ddjF...@individual.net...
toward 'mixing' in formally all-black neighborhoods. In this
case it's an enhanced sense of rhythm. There is a similar
tendency in Latino neighborhoods, but the effect is
restricted to rhythms with Moorish antecedents.
All further inquiries should be addressed to Andy Evans, who
has studied the neuroses resulting. As a WASP he is more
objective than Alain D.
bl
Matthew B. Tepper
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> Yes, in fact all Jews are great violinists. Fortunately you can catch
> Jewishness by living in the same neighborhood, it's highly infectious.
Q. Why are there so many more great Jewish violinists from Russia than
great Jewish pianists from Russia?
A. Because it's hard to run away from the Cossacks when you're carrying a
piano.
Brendan R. Wehrung
Can you, perhaps name a few matings of great performers who produced
prodigy superior to them?
There are several father-son pairs, Mozart and Strauss being the most
recognized examples, but they were composers and you are talking about
performers.
Brendan
James Kahn
>"WannabeHurd" (aqui...@yahoo.ca) writes:
>>
>> Well yes: if I could *hypothetically* isolate that particular gene, and
>> give it to my kid, he'd have a greater chance of becoming a great
>> violinist himself.
>>
>Can you, perhaps name a few matings of great performers who produced
>prodigy superior to them?
>There are several father-son pairs, Mozart and Strauss being the most
>recognized examples, but they were composers and you are talking about
>performers.
Dunno about "superior," but Claude Frank and Lillian Kallir produced
Pamela Frank. Rudolf Serkin and Adolf Busch's daughter produced
Peter Serkin. I'm sure there are lots of other possibilities.
--
Jim
New York, NY
(Please remove "nospam." to get my e-mail address)
http://www.panix.com/~kahn
WannabeHurd
> Hey, is this WannabeFed posting here?
Hey, long time no see ;->
You are quite perceptive...
WannabeHurd
> Have you read about Isaac Babel who locked himself in the toilet to avoid violin lessons his dear father pushed him into?
Who the heck is Isaac Babel? never heard of him.
WannabeHurd
> Dunno about "superior," but Claude Frank and Lillian Kallir produced Pamela Frank. Rudolf Serkin and Adolf Busch's daughter produced
> Peter Serkin. I'm sure there are lots of other possibilities.
There are also other cases where it doesn't work as well: Vladimir
Ashkenazy's son is also pianist, but obviously doesn't have senior's
talent.
Dan Koren
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>
> Just wondering, does he have Jewish ancestry?
> Most great violinists do... I wonder why, BTW.
>
What is there to wonder about ?!?
Maxim Vengerov is Jewish, pure and simple.
As you probably know, violin playing is a
Jewish monopoly, with a minor franchise to
the Japanese and Koreans.... ;-)
dk
Dan Koren
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> Paul Ilechko <noSPaM_pile...@patmedia.net> appears to have caused
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>> Yes, in fact all Jews are great violinists. Fortunately you can catch
>> Jewishness by living in the same neighborhood, it's highly infectious.
>
> Q. Why are there so many more great Jewish violinists from Russia
> than great Jewish pianists from Russia?
>
> A. Because it's hard to run away from the Cossacks when you're
> carrying a piano.
>
Then how does one explain the dearth of Jewish sopranos ?!?
dk
Andy Evans
Famous writer. See http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/babel.htm
"The Awakening," another of the later autobiographical stories, set in
Babel's childhood Odessa, tells of the comic episode in which Babel's
father sends his young son to the local violin teacher to groom him to
be a prodigy. Odessa, after all, had produced Heifetz, Zimbalist,
Mischa Elman. "Our fathers, seeing they had no prospects of their own,
set up a lottery for themselves. They built this lottery on the bones
of their little children." But the little Babel is very bad at the
violin — "sounds scraped out of my violin like iron filings" — the
little boy yearns to be a writer
deac...@yahoo.com
The problem is that DK actually believes this racist crap.
But in any case, he should also allow a minor franchise to Canadian
Mennonites.
TD
graham
"Brendan R. Wehrung" <ck...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
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Aubrey and Dennis Brain come to mind.
Graham
Dan Koren
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>
> Dan Koren wrote:
>> "WannabeHurd" <aqui...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
>> news:1132247930.1...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > Just wondering, does he have Jewish ancestry?
>> > Most great violinists do... I wonder why, BTW.
>> >
>>
>>
>> What is there to wonder about ?!?
>>
>> Maxim Vengerov is Jewish, pure and simple.
>>
>> As you probably know, violin playing is a
>> Jewish monopoly, with a minor franchise to
>> the Japanese and Koreans.... ;-)
>
Can you read smileys?
Oh, I forgot: your eyes do not see anything
smaller than antlers.... ;-)
> But in any case, he should also allow a
> minor franchise to Canadian Mennonites.
I'm afraid they'll have to sub-franchise
from the Koreans.... ;-)
dk
WannabeHurd
Sorry, not familiar with the names. Are they musicians? which century?
WannabeHurd
> [...] As you probably know, violin playing is a Jewish monopoly
Assuming what you say is half-true, is there an explanation? Is it
genetic or cultural?
Matthew B. Tepper
> graham wrote:
>> "Brendan R. Wehrung" <ck...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
>> news:dljp70$6h3$1...@theodyn.ncf.ca...
>> > "WannabeHurd" (aqui...@yahoo.ca) writes:
>> >> Matthew B. Tepper wrote:
>> >>> "WannabeHurd" <aqui...@yahoo.ca> appears to have caused the
>> >>> following letters to be typed in news:1132247930.163410.195300
>> >>> @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
>> >>>
>> >>> > Just wondering, does he have Jewish ancestry?
>> >>> > Most great violinists do... I wonder why, BTW.
>> >>>
>> >>> Does it matter?
>> >>
>> >> Well yes: if I could *hypothetically* isolate that particular gene,
>> >> and give it to my kid, he'd have a greater chance of becoming a
>> >> great violinist himself.
>> >
>> > Can you, perhaps name a few matings of great performers who produced
>> > prodigy superior to them?
>> >
>> > There are several father-son pairs, Mozart and Strauss being the most
>> > recognized examples, but they were composers and you are talking
>> > about performers.
>>
>> Aubrey and Dennis Brain come to mind.
>
> Sorry, not familiar with the names. Are they musicians? which century?
Horn players ("French horn," if one prefers that silly and geographically
incorrect term), British, last century, father and son. You should try to
hear Dennis' recording of all four concerti by Mozart.
James Kahn
They learned to keep quiet! :)
long_ter...@yahoo.com
sopranos...
you should know better. Some of the greatest sopranos were jewish:
Lotte Schoene, Rosa Raisa and many others.
Philip Peters
Actually we in Holland call it *English horn"...
Philip
>
Matthew B. Tepper
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Then what do you call the cor anglais?
Philip Peters
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>>Matthew B. Tepper wrote:
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>>>
>>>>graham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Brendan R. Wehrung" <ck...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"WannabeHurd" (aqui...@yahoo.ca) writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Matthew B. Tepper wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Aubrey and Dennis Brain come to mind.
>>>>
>>>>Sorry, not familiar with the names. Are they musicians? which century?
>>>
>>>Horn players ("French horn," if one prefers that silly and
>>>geographically incorrect term), British, last century, father and son.
>>>You should try to hear Dennis' recording of all four concerti by
>>>Mozart.
>>
>>Actually we in Holland call it *English horn"...
>
>
> Then what do you call the cor anglais?
I goggled it. Er... <koff > all my life I have lived with this mistake
apparently. We call a cor anglais a cor anglais or *Engelse hoorn* and
what you call a French horn we call a *Franse hoorn* as well or just
*hoorn* period. My bad. I can be pretty dumb at times.
P.
>
deac...@yahoo.com
Oh, I forgot: your eyes do not see anything
smaller than antlers.... ;-)
> But in any case, he should also allow a
> minor franchise to Canadian Mennonites.
I'm afraid they'll have to sub-franchise
from the Koreans.... ;-)
dk
Naturally I can read them. But I choose NOT to read them
They are a poor man's attempt at saying something "funny"
which is not really funny at all. To undercut the intent of the
sentence so as to mute its meaning.
I ignore them utterly.
TD
Richard Schultz
: As you probably know, violin playing is a Jewish monopoly, with a minor
: franchise to the Japanese and Koreans.... ;-)
I don't know about the Koreans, but I thought that it was common knowledge
that the Japanese are descended from the Ten Lost Tribes (Kurosawa even
has a woman wearing a dress with a Star-of-David pattern in _The
Seven Samurai_).
-----
Richard Schultz sch...@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
It's a bird, it's a plane -- no, it's Mozart. . .
WannabeHurd
Richard Schultz wrote:
> In article <437d...@news.meer.net>, Dan Koren <dank...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> : As you probably know, violin playing is a Jewish monopoly, with a minor
> : franchise to the Japanese and Koreans.... ;-)
>
> I don't know about the Koreans, but I thought that it was common knowledge
> that the Japanese are descended from the Ten Lost Tribes (Kurosawa even
> has a woman wearing a dress with a Star-of-David pattern in _The
> Seven Samurai_).
>
Yes, but so far, there have been no great violinists coming from Japan.
Lots of good one, but great... I can't think of anyone.
Yo-Yo Ma? Oops, wrong country.
Matthew B. Tepper
Also wrong instrument.
Began restoration work yesterday on my old Lyrita LP of the Finzi Cello
Concerto, which a 24-year-old Ma recorded with Vernon Handley and the RPO.
Fiery and beautifully impetuous playing from him, and it's too bad that he
either won't or isn't allowed to record Realklassik any more. (And bad
arrangements of violin music doesn't count, either.)
Richard Schultz
: Began restoration work yesterday on my old Lyrita LP of the Finzi Cello
: Concerto, which a 24-year-old Ma recorded with Vernon Handley and the RPO.
: Fiery and beautifully impetuous playing from him, and it's too bad that he
: either won't or isn't allowed to record Realklassik any more. (And bad
: arrangements of violin music doesn't count, either.)
Completely coincidentally, I was listening last night to the Ma/Ax
recording of the Beethoven A major sonata (Op. 69). While I suspect
that it's a performance not to everyone's taste, the two of them are
obviously having so much fun playing that it's hard for me to object.
-----
Richard Schultz sch...@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
Just a little music in the night
Makes me want to hold my baby tight.
Mister Mozart, play that melody,
Eine Kleine Nachtmusik for me!
-- Flanders & Swann
Dan Koren
> Dan Koren wrote:
>
>> [...] As you probably know, violin playing is a Jewish monopoly
>
> Assuming what you say is half-true,
The numbers speak for themselves.
No interpretation is needed ;-)
> is there an explanation?
Perhaps.
> Is it genetic or cultural?
More likely the latter ;-)
dk
Dan Koren
Oops! Wrong instrument.
dk
gggg...@gmail.com
- When France was occupied by the German troups in 1940 Schöne had to take refuge in a small village in the French alps where she kept hiding during the following years.
http://www.operavivra.com/artists/sopranos/lotte-schone/
Herman
> Concerning Lotte Schoene, am I the only one who thought of her during the scene in the movie INGLORIOUS BASTERDS
mo...@cloud9.net
> Just wondering, does he have Jewish ancestry?
> Most great violinists do... I wonder why, BTW.
Selma Kurz, Roberta Peters, Bubbles.
Mort Linder
AB
AB
dk
replaced by a human. Or maybe a more advanced bot.
dk
dk
or Viardot level. I have not forgotten
Beverly Sills.
dk
gggg gggg
https://classicalvoiceamerica.org/2021/03/28/anthology-recaptures-charm-distinction-of-singer-lotte-schoene/
She also recorded Schubert's lied DER HIRT AUF DEM FELSEN:
https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Grand_Tradition/kBo6AQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22lotte+schone%22+%22hirt+auf+dem+felsen%22+schubert&dq=%22lotte+schone%22+%22hirt+auf+dem+felsen%22+schubert&printsec=frontcover