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Martha & Russ Oppenheim

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Sep 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/16/00
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Just received the new Testament reissue of Cantelli's studio recordings
with the NBCSO (sent with dazzling speed from MDT). This is an absolute
must-have for anyone who loves Cantelli's work! The set was reviewed by
Richard Osborne in the October Gramophone; in it Osborne describes the
recording of the Haydn Symphony #93 (Studio 8H, 1949) as "horrible."
Osborne is full of beans. The short ambiance of the studio is naturally
in evidence, but the sound is warm and clean, with a good honest bass;
similar to the best recordings that came out of the studio (ex.
Toscanini's Haydn Symphony #98). The review goes on to state that the
sound of the other performances, which were recorded in Carnegie Hall,
borders on the spectacular. If they're that much better than the Haydn,
which is the only one I've sampled so far and found totally
satisfactory, I don't know if my old ticker can take it.

In short, Cantelli admirers, don't hesitate!

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Russ & Martha Oppenheim
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bald...@my-deja.com

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Sep 16, 2000, 11:44:35 PM9/16/00
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In article <39C42D10...@ix.netcom.com>,

They're also releasing Solomon Playing Beethoven sonatas on October 10.
Well worth waiting for.

Cheers

Baldric


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Matthew B. Tepper

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Sep 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/17/00
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mopp...@ix.netcom.com (Martha & Russ Oppenheim) wrote in
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>
>Just received the new Testament reissue of Cantelli's studio recordings
>with the NBCSO (sent with dazzling speed from MDT). This is an absolute
>must-have for anyone who loves Cantelli's work! The set was reviewed by
>Richard Osborne in the October Gramophone; in it Osborne describes the
>recording of the Haydn Symphony #93 (Studio 8H, 1949) as "horrible."
>Osborne is full of beans. The short ambiance of the studio is naturally
>in evidence, but the sound is warm and clean, with a good honest bass;
>similar to the best recordings that came out of the studio (ex.
>Toscanini's Haydn Symphony #98). The review goes on to state that the
>sound of the other performances, which were recorded in Carnegie Hall,
>borders on the spectacular. If they're that much better than the Haydn,
>which is the only one I've sampled so far and found totally
>satisfactory, I don't know if my old ticker can take it.
>
>In short, Cantelli admirers, don't hesitate!

Thanks for the heads-up! How's the Hindemith?

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Martha & Russ Oppenheim

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Sep 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/17/00
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"Matthew B. Tepper" wrote:
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> mopp...@ix.netcom.com (Martha & Russ Oppenheim) wrote in
> <39C42D10...@ix.netcom.com>:
>
> >
> >Just received the new Testament reissue of Cantelli's studio recordings
> >with the NBCSO (sent with dazzling speed from MDT). This is an absolute
> >must-have for anyone who loves Cantelli's work! [snipped my own stuff]

>
> Thanks for the heads-up! How's the Hindemith?
>

Haven't heard it yet. Need the Old Lady out of the house so I can blow
it thru the speakers. Any day now.

BTW, Testament's booklet is very informative; one weeps to learn that
additional recordings sessions with the NBCSO were planned for the
Tchaikovsky 4th and Bartok's Conc for Orch.

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Russ Oppenheim
mopp...@ix.netcom.com
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JRsnfld

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Sep 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/17/00
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>one weeps to learn that
additional recordings sessions with the NBCSO were planned for the
Tchaikovsky 4th<

One needn't weep for long. The live performance of the same, on Music and Arts,
is outstanding.

--Jeff

Curtis Croulet

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Sep 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/17/00
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> Osborne is full of beans.

It wouldn't be the first time!
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Curtis Croulet
Temecula, California

Don Drewecki

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Sep 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/18/00
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So I guess Stewart Brown of Testament actually got my letter last year.
--
Don Drewecki
<dre...@rpi.edu>

Don Drewecki

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Sep 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/18/00
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I had the original 78s of the Haydn 93rd, and thought it had some of the
best sound ever out of 8H. I hope Osborne is wrong.
--
Don Drewecki
<dre...@rpi.edu>

Matthew B. Tepper

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Sep 18, 2000, 9:55:43 PM9/18/00
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dre...@rpi.edu (Don Drewecki) wrote in <8q66sc$14...@cortez.sss.rpi.edu>:

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>So I guess Stewart Brown of Testament actually got my letter last year.

Please write to him more frequently!

Martha & Russ Oppenheim

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Sep 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/19/00
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"Matthew B. Tepper" wrote:
>
> mopp...@ix.netcom.com (Martha & Russ Oppenheim) wrote in
> <39C42D10...@ix.netcom.com>:
>
> >
> >Just received the new Testament reissue of Cantelli's studio recordings
> >with the NBCSO (sent with dazzling speed from MDT). This is an absolute
> >must-have for anyone who loves Cantelli's work! [snip]

>
> Thanks for the heads-up! How's the Hindemith?

Heard it last evening, full blast. It's an absolute knockout, a
thrilling performance. I have the two Steinberg versions (Boston, DG
and Pittsburgh EMI) which are my basis for comparison, and they are
truly excellent performances, no doubt about it. And despairing of ever
seeing the Cantelli on CD, I was and am quite satisfied with them. But
the Cantelli is transcendental; it's almost as if he has an absolutely
fanatical belief in every note of the score, and the performance reveals
Mathis as even a greater work than I had thought. Cantelli's tempo in
the "Entombment" is daringly slow, but the tension never flags, and
there is never a moment when one senses dragging (4:57 vs 4:10 for
Steinberg DG). "The Temptation of St Anthony" sizzles with energy, and
the explosion at 4:16 will knock you out of your seat - those NBCSO
tuttis!!

A thousand thanks to Testament for this marvellous set.

Edward A. Cowan

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Sep 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/19/00
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Martha & Russ Oppenheim <mopp...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> > Thanks for the heads-up! How's the Hindemith?
>
> Heard it last evening, full blast. It's an absolute knockout, a
> thrilling performance.

[snip]

> Cantelli's tempo in
> the "Entombment" is daringly slow, but the tension never flags, and
> there is never a moment when one senses dragging (4:57 vs 4:10 for
> Steinberg DG). "The Temptation of St Anthony" sizzles with energy, and
> the explosion at 4:16 will knock you out of your seat - those NBCSO
> tuttis!!
>
> A thousand thanks to Testament for this marvellous set.

Thanks for this report on the Testament Cantelli/NBC set. I'll be
looking for it next time out.

--
E.A.C.

TransfrGuy

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Sep 19, 2000, 8:02:07 PM9/19/00
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On 18 Sep 2000, Don Drewecki wrote:

>So I guess Stewart Brown of Testament actually got my letter last year.

I also suggested this idea to Stewart Brown when Mike Dutton introduced me to
him at the Abbey Road Studios back in the spring of 1995. He told me at the
time that he didn't think Testament could do this, since the masters were (he
believed) owned by BMG and not by EMI, with whom he had a licensing agreement.
Things have changed since then.

I hope that Testament has been able to get access to the original stereo master
tapes of the Franck Symphony, rather than the disappointingly shallow-sounding
copy used for EMI's Artist Portrait CD. Has anyone compared them yet?

Mark Obert-Thorn

Matthew B. Tepper

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Sep 20, 2000, 12:18:31 AM9/20/00
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eac...@anet-dfw.com (Edward A. Cowan) wrote in
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Ditto here, of course; then I can finally retire the bashed up (hey, I got
it that way!) LP of the Hindemith with the Haydn 93.

Hat NYC 62

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Sep 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/20/00
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Were these recordings licensed from BMG? If so, perhaps there is still hope for
the other RCA mono recordings of the period to appear on Testament.

Maybe they could even convince Sony to license some remasterings of Reiner and
Stock material from the original 33 1/3 matrices so we wouldn't have to live
with the (decent but hardly ideal) lys released of the dubbed 78s.

David Hattner, NYC

Don Drewecki

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Sep 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/20/00
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Cantelli's NBC studio recordings were made under contract to EMI, which
is what I wrote to Brown in my letter last year. However, RCA issued
all the titles here domestically on LPs and 78s. I wish I still had the
Haydn on 78s, but will repeat that it had some of the very best sound
ever out of 8H -- not dry, not too flat, not dead, and very full. Yeah,
I guess there _are_ some reasons to live!

Now maybe Testament will issue all of the MTT/Ralph Grierson duo-piano
recordings, since EMI won't.
--
Don Drewecki
<dre...@rpi.edu>

Matthew B. Tepper

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Sep 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/20/00
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dre...@rpi.edu (Don Drewecki) wrote in <8qat2l$1epn@cii3130-
02.rcs.rpi.edu>:

What was there apart from that fabulous "Sacre" and the "Scherzo a la
russe" (if I remember the fill-up correctly)?

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Ward Hardman

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Sep 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/20/00
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JRsnfld <jrs...@aol.com> wrote:
:>one weeps to learn that

That 2-CD set was listed on a "LAST CHANCE" page at M & A's website
several months ago. I ordered the next-to-last one they had in stock,
then when the album arrived in the mail discovered that it contained
two copies of disk 1 (Tchaikovsky #4 and first 2 movements of #5).
They had sold the last copy of the set by the time I called them, but
were kind enough to burn an archival copy of disk 2 onto a CD-R for me.

--Ward Hardman


Don Drewecki

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Sep 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/22/00
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Thomas and Grierson recorded another LP, including music of Steve Reich.
That would serve as a terrific filler for the Stravinsky items.
--
Don Drewecki
<dre...@rpi.edu>

Matthew B. Tepper

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Sep 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/22/00
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dre...@rpi.edu (Don Drewecki) wrote in <8qfsd0$3f...@cortez.sss.rpi.edu>:

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>Thomas and Grierson recorded another LP, including music of Steve Reich.
>That would serve as a terrific filler for the Stravinsky items.

I'd rather have dead air.

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Martha & Russ Oppenheim

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Sep 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/23/00
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Ward Hardman wrote:

[re: Cantelli/NBCSO Tchaikovsky Syms 4,5,6 on Music & Arts]

>
> That 2-CD set was listed on a "LAST CHANCE" page at M & A's website
> several months ago. I ordered the next-to-last one they had in stock,
> then when the album arrived in the mail discovered that it contained
> two copies of disk 1 (Tchaikovsky #4 and first 2 movements of #5).
> They had sold the last copy of the set by the time I called them, but
> were kind enough to burn an archival copy of disk 2 onto a CD-R for me.
>

Are those the same performances as in the Arkadia box? And if so, is
the Arkadia any good? I'm normally kinda leery of Italian reissues.
The Arkadia also has an incomplete Tchik 5 with the NY Phil - how they
could cram all that stuff onto 2 CDs is beyond me.

TIA for any info.

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