Bruckner - Steinberg and Knappertsbusch

Indranil Poddar

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Nov 19, 2003, 5:59:15 PM11/19/03

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Hi!

Have any of you heard the following recordings both available from Haydn House

Steinberg Bruckner 6 with the BSO
Knappertsbusch doing Bruckner 3 with the VPO

Opinions pls,

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John F. Berky

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Nov 20, 2003, 6:11:21 AM11/20/03

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The Kna B3 will be released by Testament in January.

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May 3, 2019, 3:34:31 AM5/3/19

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On Wednesday, November 19, 2003 at 12:59:15 PM UTC-10, Indranil Poddar wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Have any of you heard the following recordings both available from Haydn House
>
>
> Steinberg Bruckner 6 with the BSO

According to the following:

Missing from this otherwise exhaustive list is the Boston Symphony recording of the 6th with William Steinberg. It’s an outstanding performance, and sadly has never been issued on CD in this country.
RCA/Sony has been issuing the complete Reiner/CSO and Munch/BSO. One can hope that Steinberg’s RCA recordings will someday appear on a 2 CD set: a great Schubert C Major Symphony; the Bruckner 6th; Strauss’ Til Eulenspiegel (with a jaw-dropping solo from then concertmaster Joseph Silverstein); and short works by Dukas, Saint-Saens, and Mendelssohn. Consider this an advance recommendation.

Comment by Brian Bell — April 9, 2017 at 10:13 pm

Someone reissued years ago the William Steinberg Brahms symphonies, which were very solid and musical even if the upper string sound was on the harsh side. In his WSteinberg obituary in the Phoenix, Michael Steinberg mentioned some of his Bruckner work, I believe, and also Strauss that lifted the roof off of SH, and I don’t recall that he was referring to Til.

Comment by david moran — April 10, 2017 at 2:18 pm

I would like to second Brian Bell’s recommendation of the Steinberg Sixth — direct and moving. It actually has been issued on CD — it’s available from Haydn House, though how HH obtained the rights to the original RCA release is a little unclear. The back of my copy has this: MASTERING TO CD: Pierre Paquin, September 2003 PRIVATE TRANSFER FOR BACKUP ONLY. Does this mean it’s some kind of pirated release? A few years ago, I advised people at the BSO that this CD was in existence and they expressed surprise, so apparently the BSO didn’t license the CD release, but perhaps the rights belonged to RCA. Not sure what the legal situation is, but the CD is still for sale at Haydn House, and anyone who loves the symphony should have it.

Comment by Jeffrey Gantz — April 13, 2017 at 12:48 pm

Thanks for the Steinberg reminder, Brian and Jeffrey. Apropos of the various editions mentioned above, Steinberg/BSO used the Nowak as well.

Comment by nimitta — April 14, 2017 at 5:50 pm

https://www.classical-scene.com/2017/04/06/bruckner-lofty/

John Fowler

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May 3, 2019, 11:23:16 PM5/3/19

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The Complete Steinberg Boston recordings, 1969-1970:
- Bruckner Symphony 6
- Schubert: Symphony 9
- Dukas Sorcerer's Apprentice
- Mendelssohn Scherzo from Octet (unissued)
- Saint-Saëns: Danse macabre
- R.Strauss: Till Eulenspiegel
- Stravinsky: Scherzo fantasque (unissued)
- Stravinsky: Scherzo a la Russe (unissued)

My surprising source is the Wikipedia article on Steinberg.

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John Fowler

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May 4, 2019, 9:22:56 AM5/4/19

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William Steinberg Bruckner discography - all are stereo

- Symphony 4 (1888 Loewe edition) - Pittsburgh Symphony 1956 EMI/Warner, on CD: Amazon ASIN: B000002SB1 or in 19 CD box: ASIN: B005AAVFG8
- Symphony 6 (1881 Nowak) - Boston Symphony 1970, RCA LP, not on Sony CD.
- Symphony 7 (1885 Nowak) - Pittsburgh Symphony 1968 Command Classics LP, on MCA CD with Symphony 8/Knappertsbusch: ASIN: B00000DWBM
- Symphony 8 (1892 Schalk) - Boston Symphony 1972 broadcast in 12 CD Centennial Box: ASIN: B00JS3QP36 - listed on Amazon UK, but not American Amazon.
- Overture in G (1863) - Pittsburgh Symphony 1968 Command Classics, on LP with Symphony 7, but not on CD.

Russ (not Martha)

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May 4, 2019, 11:04:32 AM5/4/19

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The Steinberg/BSO Bruckner Symphony #6 on CD was available at one time, but not conveniently, from Tower Records Japan (TWCL 3004). I 're-remastered' my copy to correct an odd orchestral blunder during the last 9 bars of the scherzo, and eliminate some post-echoes.

Also remastered the Steinberg/Pitts Overture in G Minor to CD from the Command LP.

Russ (not Martha)

Ward Hardman

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May 5, 2019, 6:22:22 PM5/5/19

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The section of the Wikipedia article in which this list appears is titled "Selective Discography," and these items are all listed as RCA recordings. (Why are "unissued" items listed in a "discography"?) His BSO DG recordings from 1970-71 are also listed. NONE of his Pittsburgh/Philharmonia Capitol/EMI recordings are included. That's "selective" for you!

--Ward Hardman

"The older I get, the more I crave and admire competence,
just simple competence, in any field from adultery to zoology."
- H. L. Mencken

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FrankB

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May 8, 2019, 10:11:05 PM5/8/19

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Why are the same unissued items listed in James H. North's definitive "Boston Symphony Orchestra: An Augmented Discography" - possibly for scholarly completeness??

Frank Berger

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May 8, 2019, 10:37:33 PM5/8/19

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Let's all feel superior to anyone who uses the word "discography" in a
non-literal fashion. Are we happy now?

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Mar 10, 2022, 3:03:06 AM3/10/22

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(Recent Y. upload):

BRUCKNER: SYMPHONY 7 / BSOTN SO / STEINBERG (LIVE)