Beethoven Performed on Harpsichord?
Sue & Steve
for harpsichord. He is currently knocking his head against a wall trying to
locate recordings on either CD/LP of Beethoven. Not fortepiano mind you.
Can anyone help unravel the mystery? Me thinks there is nothing, but what do
I know?
Many thanks in advance.
Steve
jmcl...@gte.net
Methinks LvB on harpischord is analagous to Coltrane on a Kazoo....!
Cheers
Jack McLain
Durham, NC
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Matthew B. Tepper
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There were a few pieces for mandolin and harpsichord, which have been
recorded that way a few times.
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Mark K. Ehlert
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> cell...@mindspring.com (Sue & Steve) wrote in
> <91nlei$u46$1...@slb2.atl.mindspring.net>:
>
> >I have an acquaintance in Japan without a computer who collects rare
> >music for harpsichord. He is currently knocking his head against a wall
> >trying to locate recordings on either CD/LP of Beethoven. Not fortepiano
> >mind you.
> >
> >Can anyone help unravel the mystery? Me thinks there is nothing, but
> >what do I know?
>
> There were a few pieces for mandolin and harpsichord, which have been
> recorded that way a few times.
Matthew beat me to it. I've heard the mandolin
sonata/variations/adasio on both harpsichord and on piano.
Sounds good either way. I suspect the harpsichord comes in
because the Breitkopf & Haertel score has the title
"Cembalo" for the keyboard part. I don't know if that same
moniker was used in the original editions.
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Lionel Tacchini
I believe all the piano sonatas up to the "Pathetic" were published
as being "for the piano-forte or the harpsichord" if only in hope of
selling them to people who had not "upgraded" yet, so they must
have been played that way too but I have yet to hear of a recording.
Lionel Tacchini
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Alan Cooper
Clavichord," Odyssey LP 30289, also in "The Art of Igor Kipnis," vol. 2,
Columbia LP M3X 32325, includes a recording of Beethoven's 6 Variations on a
theme from Paisiello's "La Molinara." I do not know if the recording has
been reissued on CD.
AC
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minklerstraat
Matthew B. Tepper <oy兀earthlink.net> schreef in berichtnieuws RDL%
(beethoven harpsichord question)
> There were a few pieces for mandolin and harpsichord, which have been
> recorded that way a few times.
I grew up with an old Vox Box with these in it, not really realizing what an
anomaly they were until much later on. I taped them and now when I play
them (the cassettes must be 16 years old but still ok) no one believes they
are Beethoven! This is another side to Beethoven one would not have really
expected--so surrealistic you can imagine him at a tavern in some sort of
Bohemian sombrero with his mandolin case out in front, earning a rather
small collection. As you can tell I find it quite moving music.
-James
Bob Lombard
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imagined a Bohemian sombrero. Now that you have done it for me... the
sombrero is like a Mexican one, but with a red silk band... a hawk's
tailfeather in the band... we can just see his elbows and the bottom of the
mandolin under the sombrero...ah, I'm afraid I have lost it; he is playing
his opus 2 number 3.
Hey, thanks anyway, James. And I wish I could hear the music you hear.
bl
minklerstraat
Bob Lombard <blom...@vermontel.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
> Nice imagining, James, you are a man after my own heart. But I've never
> imagined a Bohemian sombrero. Now that you have done it for me... the
> sombrero is like a Mexican one, but with a red silk band... a hawk's
> tailfeather in the band... we can just see his elbows and the bottom of
the
> mandolin under the sombrero...ah, I'm afraid I have lost it; he is playing
> his opus 2 number 3.
> Hey, thanks anyway, James. And I wish I could hear the music you hear.
>
Now have you heard it, Bob? Put it on if ya got it! I couldn't imagine a
Bohemian sombrero either until I tried to think of how to describe these
pieces, and I don't think old Dali could have outdone ole LvB for the
surrealistic effect. And yes, Bob...you have the basic image-- with
Pakistani lederhosen, Nana Mouskuri glasses, sitting next to a girlfriend
that smells like patchouli.
-James
Jeffrey Friedman
"minklerstraat" <minckler...@MOVEyahoo.com> wrote:
How do I get past the part where Beethoven is crooning La Cucaracha
in Czech?
Jeff
Jeffrey F. Friedman
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Sue & Steve
Regards,
Steve
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> Thank you all for the valuable information and touch of humor.
>
> Regards,
> Steve
I looked 'em up and I think the numbers you want are WoO 43 & 44. (I'm not
sure what Bob meant with the opus numbers of the trio he cited...maybe he
has sometime heard these too on mandolin). Anyway, listening to these
works, one can only imagine them being played on the mandolin...or banjo.
The opus/WoO numbers I consulted mentions that 44 was probably not written
by Beethoven (although apparently he received the commission), but a friend
of his. Also: these pieces are listed for piano and mandolin (not
harpsichord), and are the only ones in the catalogue which mention a
mandolin, so I suppose they are the ones on my cassette (I no longer have
the case, and the cassette has no useful information). However, the pieces
sound to me more as if they were written for harpsichord than for piano
because of the relative weight of the accompaniment--even though the
accompaniment seems very atypical for harpsichord music. Anyway, I hope
your friend acquires them and enjoys them. The info here is from a Dutch
biography of Beethoven on Joyce Maier's Beethoven website--the list is on
http://www.ademu.demon.nl/Beethoven/Btl/02catmuziek1.htm
-James
Michael Cervin
In the late sixties or early seventies, there was a harpsichordist Huguette
Gremy-Chauillac, who recorded Beethoven piano sonatas on the harpsichord
(the Moonlight Sonata among them). Decca France, IIRC.
Regards,
Michael Cervin
Lund, Sweden