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Steve de Mena

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May 30, 2013, 10:51:48 AM5/30/13
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Has anyone here been blacklisted from posting comments there?

Have noticed for about a week now that none of my comments show up.
They don't even show up in the approval queue. It's just like I never
made the comment.

http://www.artsjournal.com/slippeddisc/

He makes factual errors on many of his posts and I call him out on
them. I guess he doesn't like that. He doesn't even begin to fit the
definition of a "journalist".

Seems even my comments to his Facebook posts get deleted.
https://www.facebook.com/norman.lebrecht.5

Steve


Mark S

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May 30, 2013, 11:07:04 AM5/30/13
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If the shoe were on the other foot and Lebrecht was the person being
deleted, he'd already have a book out about it, naming you as one of
the worst human beings on the planet.

Bob Lombard

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May 30, 2013, 12:18:04 PM5/30/13
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But Sirs, it's his blog, and his Facebook account.

bl

M forever

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May 30, 2013, 12:37:41 PM5/30/13
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On May 30, 10:51 am, Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> wrote:
> Has anyone here been blacklisted from posting comments there?
>
> Have noticed for about a week now that none of my comments show up.
> They don't even show up in the approval queue. It's just like I never
> made the comment.

Same with my comments if I post from home. It seems to have to do with
the IP address of my router as it doesn't matter if I post from my
desktop or iPad. But when I post from a different IP address the posts
show up and in most cases also go through. I asked NL if my home
address was blacklisted and he said no which I have reason to believe
as he lets my posts go through most of the time when I post from
somewhere else. And he knows its the same person because I use my full
name.

Steve de Mena

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May 30, 2013, 7:44:23 PM5/30/13
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Yes, but he has a page specifically outlining what comments can and
can't be made on his blog and I didn't violate any of his policies. He
gives one the illusion that he encourages open discussion.

Steve

Steve de Mena

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May 30, 2013, 7:48:48 PM5/30/13
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He deleted my Facebook post too, and when I tried to post again just
now on his Facebook page I got a popup message that my messages have
been reported as spam. So it's not an IP based issue, he's
intentionally deleting my Facebook posts and blacklisting my home IP.

Every comment I made has been perfectly valid I feel.

Steve

Herman

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May 30, 2013, 8:33:50 PM5/30/13
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On Friday, May 31, 2013 1:48:48 AM UTC+2, Steven de Mena wrote:


>
> Every comment I made has been perfectly valid I feel.
>
He seems to feel otherwise. Why whine?

Steve de Mena

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May 30, 2013, 9:17:17 PM5/30/13
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How do you know how he feels or why he blacklisted me. You find him to
be an accurate and trustworthy source of information?

I'm just unsubscribing to his blog and won't read it any more. If
that's "whining" so be it.

Steve

Oscar

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May 31, 2013, 2:19:20 AM5/31/13
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On May 30, 5:33 pm, Herman wrote:
>
> > Every comment I made has been perfectly valid I feel.
>
> He seems to feel otherwise. Why whine?

I'm still trying to figure out 'why' you posted this completely
invalid comment, herman.

On Aug 14 2011, 8:17 pm, herman wrote:
>
> > She dressed what a fashionable woman might wear to a cocktail party.
> > It's certainly less extravagant than what pop music performers wear.
>
> Really? A woman might wear that to a cocktail party, but she would be
> very uncomfortable. She would have to stand on those heels all the
> time, because it is not possible to sit decently in a dress this
> short. Chances would be women would avoid her, and men would leer, and
> wonder whether what she was trying to say, dressing like a hooker.

Oh neverwhine...

Herman

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May 31, 2013, 2:58:02 AM5/31/13
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On Friday, May 31, 2013 3:17:17 AM UTC+2, Steven de Mena wrote:

>
> How do you know how he feels or why he blacklisted me. You find him to
>
> be an accurate and trustworthy source of information?
>
>
No I don't think he's anywhere near accuracy. Trying to correct his every mistake seems to me to be a fool's errand.

Nigel Curtis

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May 31, 2013, 5:03:00 AM5/31/13
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I wonder if he has an assistant on SD blog ? I've seen some of my
posts approved and then they disappear a bit later.

John Thomas

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May 31, 2013, 2:50:03 PM5/31/13
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On May 30, 6:17 pm, Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> wrote:

> >> Every comment I made has been perfectly valid I feel.
>

Maybe his spam filter needs adjusting. Not everything is necessarily
about you.

> How do you know how he feels or why he blacklisted me. You find him to
> be an accurate and trustworthy source of information?
>

If everyone complaining on this thread considers him not to be an
accurate and trustworthy source of information why do you read him and
post to his blog?

M forever

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May 31, 2013, 8:36:24 PM5/31/13
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That's odd, given that most of my comments appear but you are
generally a much less offensive contributor than I am...

Steve de Mena

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Jun 1, 2013, 4:39:43 AM6/1/13
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Another assumption - that I am trying to correct his every mistake.

Steve'

Steve de Mena

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Jun 1, 2013, 4:41:25 AM6/1/13
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On 5/31/13 11:50 AM, John Thomas wrote:
> On May 30, 6:17 pm, Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Every comment I made has been perfectly valid I feel.
>>
>
> Maybe his spam filter needs adjusting. Not everything is necessarily
> about you.

Huh?

His blog AND Facebook, my posts are deleted from both. That's the
deliberate act of a person, not a spam filter or some automated process.

Steve

td

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Jun 1, 2013, 6:12:24 AM6/1/13
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FB? Lebrecht isn't on FB anymore, Steve. Not as far as I can tell, at least.

TD

Steve de Mena

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Jun 1, 2013, 7:49:30 AM6/1/13
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On 6/1/13 3:12 AM, td wrote:
> FB? Lebrecht isn't on FB anymore, Steve. Not as far as I can tell, at least.
>
> TD
>


https://www.facebook.com/norman.lebrecht.5

Steve

td

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Jun 1, 2013, 8:23:50 AM6/1/13
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https://www.facebook.com/norman.lebrecht.5

I get "Sorry this page is not available".

TD

td

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Jun 1, 2013, 8:26:40 AM6/1/13
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http://www.artsjournal.com/news/author/norman-lebrecht/page/5/

This, however, gets me to his arts journalpage. Same hing, I guess.

weary flake

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Jun 1, 2013, 2:25:08 PM6/1/13
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Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> wrote:

If you still have them, you're welcome to post the rejected
comments here in RMCR.

Matthew B. Tepper

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Jun 2, 2013, 2:06:13 PM6/2/13
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Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> appears to have caused the following
letters to be typed in news:W-qdnRU0wKwuLjTM...@giganews.com:
By contrast, YOU call me when I get too her up or when I make unwarranted
claims or assumptions, and I actually welcome it -- from a friend. This
suggests that Norman Lebrecht is even less gracious than I am.

But then, ALL of Lebrecht's blog posts or articles essentially boil down to
three words: "Buy my books!"

--
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Matthew B. Tepper

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Jun 2, 2013, 2:06:14 PM6/2/13
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Oscar <oscaredwar...@gmail.com> appears to have caused the following
letters to be typed in news:eb6e84bb-233c-4dde-bc22-80cbbe414d80
@ks18g2000pbb.googlegroups.com:

> On May 30, 5:33 pm, Herman wrote:
>>
>> > Every comment I made has been perfectly valid I feel.
>>
>> He seems to feel otherwise. Why whine?
>
> I'm still trying to figure out 'why' you posted this completely
> invalid comment, herman.

Because it is his nature?

Matthew B. Tepper

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Jun 2, 2013, 2:06:14 PM6/2/13
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weary flake <weary...@hotmail.com> appears to have caused the following
letters to be typed in news:wearyflake-0A19EF.11250701062013
@news.giganews.com:
I too would like to see them.

Matthew B. Tepper

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Jun 2, 2013, 2:06:16 PM6/2/13
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Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> appears to have caused the following
letters to be typed in news:7o2dnWKsr6VWQjTM...@giganews.com:
What this suggests to me is that Lebrecht has blocked Deacon on Facebook, for
reasons of his own. Similarly, I have blocked Deacon, which has the bonus
effect that his posts and comments there are hidden from me too.

Matthew B. Tepper

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Jun 2, 2013, 2:06:17 PM6/2/13
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Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> appears to have caused the following
letters to be typed in news:MdednSrl1NUZ-jrM...@giganews.com:
You know, I commented on his April 26 article stating that EMI and Virgin
Classics were "about to be wiped from the record," citing his previous
claim that Decca was about to be "wiped from the map" (it got wiped back on
later). I didn't follow upat the time to see whether he allowed that one
to be posted, and I now see that it isn't there. So I'm in good company.

wagnerfan

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Jun 2, 2013, 2:33:30 PM6/2/13
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On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 13:06:13 -0500, "Matthew B. Tepper"
<oy兀earthlink.net> wrote:

>Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> appears to have caused the following
>letters to be typed in news:W-qdnRU0wKwuLjTM...@giganews.com:
>
>> On 5/31/13 11:50 AM, John Thomas wrote:
>>> On May 30, 6:17 pm, Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Every comment I made has been perfectly valid I feel.
>>>
>>> Maybe his spam filter needs adjusting. Not everything is necessarily
>>> about you.
>>
>> Huh?
>>
>> His blog AND Facebook, my posts are deleted from both. That's the
>> deliberate act of a person, not a spam filter or some automated process.
>
>By contrast, YOU call me when I get too her up or when I make unwarranted
>claims or assumptions, and I actually welcome it -- from a friend. This
>suggests that Norman Lebrecht is even less gracious than I am.
>
>But then, ALL of Lebrecht's blog posts or articles essentially boil down to
>three words: "Buy my books!"
I'm really surprised at all this astonishment that Lebrecht would
actually delete posts he didn't like from his blog. Considering his
sad history as a liar ,defamer, inept researcher and manipulator of
the truth--- I would have expected it Wagner fan

weary flake

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Jun 2, 2013, 5:53:02 PM6/2/13
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"Matthew B. Tepper" <oy兀earthlink.net> wrote:

> Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> appears to have caused the following
> letters to be typed in news:7o2dnWKsr6VWQjTM...@giganews.com:
>
> > On 6/1/13 3:12 AM, td wrote:
> >> FB? Lebrecht isn't on FB anymore, Steve. Not as far as I can tell, at
> >> least.
> >>
> >> TD
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/norman.lebrecht.5
>
> What this suggests to me is that Lebrecht has blocked Deacon on Facebook, for
> reasons of his own. Similarly, I have blocked Deacon, which has the bonus
> effect that his posts and comments there are hidden from me too.

That Norm accepts M and rejects Tom and Steve suggests to me that
Tom, who seems to like Norm, and Steve failed to deal out the
personal insults that Norm seems to crave, so they were blocked.

3Bs

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Jun 2, 2013, 6:19:04 PM6/2/13
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On May 31, 4:03 am, Nigel Curtis <cn_cur...@runbox.com> wrote:
> I wonder if he has an assistant on SD blog ? I've seen some of my
> posts approved and then they disappear a bit later.

This is a smart assumption. He probably doesn't have time; he could
have a PR group manage the blog. They delete what they aren't equipped
to judge, or what they would consider inflammatory to his (and their)
commercial interests. No way to tell. But from what I've seen there
are few people with commercial interests who feel comfortable
participating as an equal where discussion is unmediated (or even
facilitating such an environment).

td

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Jun 3, 2013, 7:48:24 AM6/3/13
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On Jun 2, 5:53 pm, weary flake <wearyfl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Matthew B. Tepper" <oy @earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> appears to have caused the following
> > letters to be typed innews:7o2dnWKsr6VWQjTM...@giganews.com:
>
> > > On 6/1/13 3:12 AM, td wrote:
> > >> FB? Lebrecht isn't on FB anymore, Steve. Not as far as I can tell, at
> > >> least.
>
> > >> TD
>
> > >https://www.facebook.com/norman.lebrecht.5
>
> > What this suggests to me is that Lebrecht has blocked Deacon on Facebook, for
> > reasons of his own.  Similarly, I have blocked Deacon, which has the bonus
> > effect that his posts and comments there are hidden from me too.
>
> That Norm accepts M and rejects Tom and Steve suggests to me that
> Tom, who seems to like Norm, and Steve failed to deal out the
> personal insults that Norm seems to crave, so they were blocked.

Except that he just accepted me on Linkedin.

Go figure.

TD

td

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Jun 3, 2013, 7:49:07 AM6/3/13
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A fair assessment.

TD

td

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Jun 3, 2013, 2:43:37 PM6/3/13
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On Jun 2, 2:06 pm, "Matthew B. Tepper" <oyþ@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> appears to have caused the following
> letters to be typed innews:7o2dnWKsr6VWQjTM...@giganews.com:
>
> > On 6/1/13 3:12 AM, td wrote:
> >> FB? Lebrecht isn't on FB anymore, Steve. Not as far as I can tell, at
> >> least.
>
> >> TD
>
> >https://www.facebook.com/norman.lebrecht.5
>
> What this suggests to me is that Lebrecht has blocked Deacon on Facebook, for
> reasons of his own.  Similarly, I have blocked Deacon,

What this means is that Tepper is as much a liar, cheat, and fraud as
Norman Lebrecht.

Birds of a feather flock together.

TD

John Wiser

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Jun 3, 2013, 3:57:54 PM6/3/13
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"td" <tomde...@mac.com> wrote (quite unnecessarily)

> What this means is that Tepper is as much a liar, cheat, and fraud as
> Norman Lebrecht.

Big difference: Lebrecht gets paid for it. Tepper gives it away.

jdw

Herman

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Jun 3, 2013, 4:29:09 PM6/3/13
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On Monday, June 3, 2013 9:57:54 PM UTC+2, John Wiser wrote:

>
> Big difference: Lebrecht gets paid for it. Tepper gives it away.
>
plus there are no takers

Bob Lombard

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Jun 3, 2013, 4:47:10 PM6/3/13
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Hah. If there are no takers, is the offer still generous? Surely.

bl

John Wiser

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Jun 3, 2013, 5:47:36 PM6/3/13
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"Bob Lombard" <thor...@vermontel.net> wrote in message
news:hh7rt.556950$%p1.3...@en-nntp-02.dc1.easynews.com...
Subtle!
If the tree falling in the forest
is in Tepper's killfle....

jdw

Steve de Mena

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Jun 3, 2013, 9:06:14 PM6/3/13
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Not sure why. He's on Facebook and that his Facebook Home Page URL.

Steve


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Norman Lebrecht shared a link.
6 hours ago

Man arrested for stealing concert grand
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It belonged to his ex-girlfriend, police say. He walked away with it
when the relationship ended. How? It's a mystery. Anyone in Kingston,
Ontario, seen a man walking down the street carrying a gra...
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Miriam Berkley Tucked it under his jacket?
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Alan Cassar No, Miriam - he broke in discretely with his JCB!
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7 hours ago

Death of former English opera chief
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8 hours ago

Breaking: Istanbul festival cancels opening due to continued unrest
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The website announces: We feel great sorrow for the events that began
at Taksim Gezi Park. The Istanbul Foundation for Culture and Arts has
decided to cancel the 41st Istanbul Music Festival's open...
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6 people like this.



Norman Lebrecht shared a link.
8 hours ago

New video: Walkout pianist returns to Rachmaninov concerto
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Last December, Andrei Gavrilov fled through the emergency exit rather
than risk playing the Rachmaninov D-minor concerto before a Moscow
audience. Yesterday, he was back in St Petersburg with the s...
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Michael Schlechtriem Just unbelivable.......terrible.
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Norman Lebrecht Watch the players faced around 01:45
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Michael Schlechtriem I have seen it.
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Paul Stetsenko There is no video. Can anyone provide a mirror site?
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Steve de Mena

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Jun 3, 2013, 9:07:22 PM6/3/13
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I wasn't blocked from his Facebook page, the URL I posted works fine
for me and I can read all his posts there if I so desire.

Steve

Steve de Mena

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Jun 3, 2013, 9:09:06 PM6/3/13
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I wish I did, but I don't. :(

Steve

Matthew B. Tepper

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Jun 5, 2013, 12:05:53 AM6/5/13
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Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> appears to have caused the following
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So he hasn't blocked you. But I get the impression that he has blocked
Deacon.

Frankly My Dear

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Jun 9, 2013, 5:52:20 PM6/9/13
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On Thursday, May 30, 2013 10:07:04 AM UTC-5, Mark S wrote:
> On May 30, 7:51 am, Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> wrote:
>
> > Has anyone here been blacklisted from posting comments there?
>
> >
>
> > Have noticed for about a week now that none of my comments show up.
>
> > They don't even show up in the approval queue. It's just like I never
>
> > made the comment.
>
> >
>
> > http://www.artsjournal.com/slippeddisc/
>
> >
>
> > He makes factual errors on many of his posts and I call him out on
>
> > them. I guess he doesn't like that. He doesn't even begin to fit the
>
> > definition of a "journalist".
>
> >
>
> > Seems even my comments to his Facebook posts get deleted.https://www.facebook.com/norman.lebrecht.5
>
> >
>
> > Steve
>
>
>
> If the shoe were on the other foot and Lebrecht was the person being
>
> deleted, he'd already have a book out about it, naming you as one of
>
> the worst human beings on the planet.

Imagine if he wrote some garbage about the technical inadequacies of Yo Yo Ma and couldn't be bothered to defend his own statements. Why that would be too too much, no? I mean what kind of person would do that?
Still hoping to learn whose cello technique puts Yo Yo's way down the list.
Frankly

Oscar

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Jun 10, 2013, 3:05:59 AM6/10/13
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On Sunday, June 9, 2013 2:52:20 PM, Frankly My Dear wrote:
> On Thursday, May 30, 2013 10:07:04 AM, Mark S wrote:
>
> > If the shoe were on the other foot and Lebrecht was the person being
> > deleted, he'd already have a book out about it, naming you as one of
> > the worst human beings on the planet.
>
> Imagine if he wrote some garbage about the technical inadequacies of
> Yo Yo Ma and couldn't be bothered to defend his own statements. Why
> that would be too too much, no? I mean what kind of person would do that?
>
> Still hoping to learn whose cello technique puts Yo Yo's way down the list.

LOL!!

klem...@gmail.com

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Jun 20, 2017, 9:40:00 PM6/20/17
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On Thursday, May 30, 2013 at 10:51:48 AM UTC-4, Steven de Mena wrote:
> Has anyone here been blacklisted from posting comments there?
>
> Have noticed for about a week now that none of my comments show up.
> They don't even show up in the approval queue. It's just like I never
> made the comment.
>
> http://www.artsjournal.com/slippeddisc/
>
> He makes factual errors on many of his posts and I call him out on
> them. I guess he doesn't like that. He doesn't even begin to fit the
> definition of a "journalist".
>
> Seems even my comments to his Facebook posts get deleted.
> https://www.facebook.com/norman.lebrecht.5
>
> Steve

When I pointed out that he had misspelled both of Dmitri Mitropoulos's names and then added "journalism 101, my comments were banned. About seven months later, I was either given a reprieve or else he failed to notice when I was making comments from a different Email address, albeit under the same name ("Daniel F."). Then, after several months, he again stopped accepting my comments after I joked about something that had happened at the Met Opera, I forget what now. I said it was one thing NL couldn't blame on Peter Gelb or James Levine. And lately he has terminated my sub. He's just a very small man with a very thin skin. On the other hand, he has allowed a lot pretty vile pro-Trump commentary, no doubt to show how passionate he is about free speech.

AB

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Jun 21, 2017, 1:23:36 PM6/21/17
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anybody who allows pro-Trump speech is 'pretty vile' himself:-)

AB

sdz

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Jul 14, 2022, 12:39:48 AM7/14/22
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I've been blacklisted several times. Now, I can access the website, but see no comments. If I try to link from Facebook, the links don't work. He hates to be criticized. Isn't that ironic? He has low standards. No surprise.

randy wolfgang

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Jul 14, 2022, 10:57:38 AM7/14/22
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A gossip and a liar
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