Does anyone know of other dependable, English-language internet suppliers of
Japanese CDs that will ship at reasonable prices?
GPG
P.S. My previous experience with HMV has been positive, but I'm
finding it hard at this time to justify a $40 bill for postage.
My experience, however, is that they ship by courier at that price,
not by ordinary air mail.
TD
deodeo. Read Paolo Cordone's FAQ for tips on how to use this website.
Paul Goldstein
You mean someone hand-delivers the discs to you? Far out, man.
Paul Goldstein
No, one of them 'spensive boutique delivery companies moves your package
within Japan and forwards it to the international mails ... where the US
Postal Service (or Canada Post, or whatever) then takes over.
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My experience with a number of orders from hmv.co.jp is that they're
shipped here by Fedex overnight, and someone *does* hand-deliver them to
me (more a nuisance than otherwise, since I have to be here to receive
them, but the shipping is very fast).
Yours,
Aron
>
I thought the same thing. Really fabulous service.
But it does come at a price.
TD
>Paul Goldstein <pgol...@newsguy.com> appears to have caused the
>following letters to be typed in news:bnp5i...@drn.newsguy.com:
>
>> In article <m340qv49p39tha967...@4ax.com>,
>> deac...@yahoo.com says...
>>>
>>>On 29 Oct 2003 18:56:21 GMT, gpge...@aol.comnospam (GPGennaro)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>My last order from HMV in Japan came at the end of September for
>>>>3,000 Yen shipping on 7 items (the price that applied for all
>>>>previous shipments of 4 or more items). However, my recent attempt
>>>>to place an order on 6 items produced a 4,400 Yen quote on shipping.
>>>>
>>>>Does anyone know of other dependable, English-language internet
>>>>suppliers of Japanese CDs that will ship at reasonable prices?
>>>>
>>>>GPG
>>>>
>>>>P.S. My previous experience with HMV has been positive, but I'm
>>>>finding it hard at this time to justify a $40 bill for postage.
>>>>
>>>
>>>My experience, however, is that they ship by courier at that price,
>>>not by ordinary air mail.
>>
>> You mean someone hand-delivers the discs to you? Far out, man.
>
>No, one of them 'spensive boutique delivery companies moves your package
>within Japan and forwards it to the international mails ... where the US
>Postal Service (or Canada Post, or whatever) then takes over.
That depends, Matt.
If it is sent UPS it comes right to the door.
FedEx, on the other hand, turns it over to Canada Post in Kingston.
TD
--
John F. Berky
Editor, Bruckner Symphony Discography
http://home.comcast.net/~jberky/BSVD.htm
"GPGennaro" <gpge...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20031029135621...@mb-m06.aol.com...
> Paul Goldstein <pgol...@newsguy.com> appears to have caused the
> following letters to be typed in news:bnp5i...@drn.newsguy.com:
>
>> In article <m340qv49p39tha967...@4ax.com>,
>> deac...@yahoo.com says...
>>>
>>> On 29 Oct 2003 18:56:21 GMT, gpge...@aol.comnospam (GPGennaro)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My last order from HMV in Japan came at the end of September for
>>>> 3,000 Yen shipping on 7 items (the price that applied for all
>>>> previous shipments of 4 or more items). However, my recent attempt
>>>> to place an order on 6 items produced a 4,400 Yen quote on shipping.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know of other dependable, English-language internet
>>>> suppliers of Japanese CDs that will ship at reasonable prices?
>>>>
>>>> GPG
>>>>
>>>> P.S. My previous experience with HMV has been positive, but I'm
>>>> finding it hard at this time to justify a $40 bill for postage.
>>>>
>>>
>>> My experience, however, is that they ship by courier at that price,
>>> not by ordinary air mail.
>>
>> You mean someone hand-delivers the discs to you? Far out, man.
>
> No, one of them 'spensive boutique delivery companies moves your package
> within Japan and forwards it to the international mails ... where the US
> Postal Service (or Canada Post, or whatever) then takes over.
It's delivered by an African Swallow. (The European swallow's wing velocity
wouldn't be able to generate enough lift to carry the package.)
--
Don Patterson
DCP Music Press
Professional Music Copy
and Arrangements
don...@olg.com
>In article <20031029135621...@mb-m06.aol.com>, GPGennaro says...
The tips there are helpful (Paul supplied them ;-), but in my
experience, Deodeo doesn't really solve the cost problem. Sure,
Deodeo ships free to the US, but they charge much more for the CDs.
For example, a 2-CD Bunin Chopin set on EMI costs about $10 more at
Deodeo than at HMV; a single-disk Mozart recital on the same label is
about $7 more expensive. So you will save some money on a small
order, but by the time you hit four or five CDs, it's a wash, and
after that, Deodeo might turn out to be more expensive than HMV. In
addition, Deodeo uses USPS to deliver in the US, rather than one of
the faster, more reliable delivery services used by HMV.
Speaking of CD dealers in East Asia, I had an amusing experience not
long ago trying to order a few Aulos and Yedang items from the Korean
site yes24.com. Despite having no knwledge of Korean, I managed to
find the items, get them into my cart, and begin the checkout process.
Then I was blindsided: in order to become a registered customer, you
have to have submit your personal ID number--the one that is issued to
all citizens and residents of Korea. There is no way around that, so
in effect, if you are not Korean, you cannot make a purchase. I asked
the fellow rmcr contributor from whom I had learned about the site how
he had managed to buy CDs there. He replied that his wife is Korean!
(He also kindly offered to put through an order for me, but I haven't
taken him up on it--yet.)
AC
Fortunately, I have some Korean-American friends and co-workers, at least
some of whom undoubtedly have friends or relatives who may be able to help.
>
>The tips there are helpful (Paul supplied them ;-), but in my
>experience, Deodeo doesn't really solve the cost problem. Sure,
>Deodeo ships free to the US, but they charge much more for the CDs.
>For example, a 2-CD Bunin Chopin set on EMI costs about $10 more at
>Deodeo than at HMV; a single-disk Mozart recital on the same label is
>about $7 more expensive. So you will save some money on a small
>order, but by the time you hit four or five CDs, it's a wash, and
>after that, Deodeo might turn out to be more expensive than HMV.
This is all true. But Richard Sauer gets all the credit for figuring out how to
use Deodeo. I am merely his disciple and amanuensis, a de Hartmann to his
Gurdjieff.
I order Japanese CDs in very small quantities, not being a big roller like Alan.
That's why I like deodeo. I've never felt aggrieved by their speed, either,
though clearly hmv.jp is a faster source.
Paul Goldstein
> Read Paolo Cordone's FAQ for tips on how to use this website.
>
>
> >
> >The tips there are helpful (Paul supplied them ;-), but in my
> >experience, Deodeo doesn't really solve the cost problem. Sure,
> >Deodeo ships free to the US, but they charge much more for the CDs.
> >For example, a 2-CD Bunin Chopin set on EMI costs about $10 more at
> >Deodeo than at HMV; a single-disk Mozart recital on the same label is
> >about $7 more expensive. So you will save some money on a small
> >order, but by the time you hit four or five CDs, it's a wash, and
> >after that, Deodeo might turn out to be more expensive than HMV.
>
> This is all true. But Richard Sauer gets all the credit for figuring out how
> to use Deodeo. I am merely his disciple and amanuensis, a de Hartmann to his
> Gurdjieff.
Why is that I can't locate these tips on Paolo's site?
Thx,
SE.
Look in the "Overall Recommendation" section under Deodeo.
Paul Goldstein
>
>Fortunately, I have some Korean-American friends and co-workers, at least
>some of whom undoubtedly have friends or relatives who may be able to help.
It would be worthwhile to ask them about it. Depending on the postage
charges (I didn't get far enough into the order to find out what they
were), the savings could be enormous. Yedang CDs that rbcmp3 sells
for $17-$20 each go for the equivalent of $8.94 at yes24.com.
AC
> >The tips there are helpful (Paul supplied them ;-), but in my
My preferred method is to buy in person while in Japan. Not very
practical, I know....
Marc Perman
Some, but by no means all, Yedang CDs have shown up at Berkshire, priced at
a very reasonable $2.99.
TG
Alan, have you been able to find a list of what Yedang has reissued? Berkshire
has a small number of these at the moment, btw.
SE.
>
>My preferred method is to buy in person while in Japan. Not very
>practical, I know....
Taking a wild guess, I'd say that the cost of a plane ticket is
probably even higher than HMV's shipping charges ;-)
AC
>Alan, have you been able to find a list of what Yedang has reissued? Berkshire
>has a small number of these at the moment, btw.
At yes24.com, the label name (Yedang or whatever) is rendered in
Korean characters. Assuming that you don't have a Korean keyboard,
what you have to do is go to the site, and search in English for one
of the performers you know is on Yedang (Tretyakov, for example).
When you bring up the results, immediately following the names of the
performers you will see a combination of 2 characters + 6 characters.
That's the label name. Block it, copy it, and paste it into the
search, and then you will bring up about 10 pages of listings. Many
of these are pop music, and there are some classical recordings by
Korean performers. The Russian reissues are interspersed; I cannot
say how complete the listing is, but they seem to have more stuff than
rbcmp3. While you're there, also check out the Aulos label (that one
you can search in English), which also has some desirable reissues
(Shafran, the original Borodin Quartet Tchaikovsky, etc.) Of course,
you can't buy anything without the help of someone who has one of
those Korean ID numbers.
I knew about the Berkshire listings. In fact, I recently ordered the
Prokofiev Concerti (early '50s Oistrakh and Kogan) and the Oistrakh
father-and-son recital from them, Perhaps they'll get more Yedangs
eventually, but right now they don't have any of the stuff that I was
trying to get from yes24.com.
AC
> At yes24.com, the label name (Yedang or whatever) is rendered in
> Korean characters. Assuming that you don't have a Korean keyboard,
> what you have to do is go to the site, and search in English for one
> of the performers you know is on Yedang (Tretyakov, for example).
> When you bring up the results, immediately following the names of the
> performers you will see a combination of 2 characters + 6 characters.
> That's the label name. Block it, copy it, and paste it into the
> search, and then you will bring up about 10 pages of listings.
Thanks, Alan. I'm slowly moving through it. Besides Aulos, they also list
Triton, which can also be entered in the search field in English. The disc of
3 Beethoven violin sonatas by Kogan and Gilels, for instance, comes up. At
HMV, it does not. At Deodeo, it seems to ($27.35, DMCC24016).
SE.
http://www.tri-m.co.jp/classic/catalog/English_Catalogue.html
http://www.tri-m.co.jp/classic/catalog/English_Catalogue.html
http://www.tri-m.co.jp/classic/catalog/English_Catalogue.html
http://www.tri-m.co.jp/classic/catalog/English_Catalogue.html
Right. I forgot about Triton. Lots of Kogan and Shafran, as I
remember. One addendum to my previous posting: After I mentioned the
Aulos reissue of the original Borodin Quartet recordings of the
Tchaikovsky Quartets + Sextet (which at this moment I still have only
on LP), a friend wrote to tell me that the same set has been issued on
MHS, presumably licensed from Chandos's ongoing Borodin Quartet
series. I don't know anything about differences in transfer quality,
but the Chandos / MHS issue is cheaper than the Aulos (even assuming
that you could get the Aulos ;-) The performances are fabulous.
As for MHS, I'd like to put in a word about their idiotic web site. I
guess there's an online catalogue, but if so, it is accessible only to
members. There is no provision for guests who wish to browse the
catalogue. Did it ever occur to them that someone might want to join
only after being able to peruse what they've got? Maybe neophyte
collectors are happy to join up for the 6 for 99 cents deal, and then
find out what else is available. They'll never get my business that
way.
AC
> Besides Aulos, yes24.com also lists
> Triton, which can also be entered in the search field in English. The disc of
> 3 Beethoven violin sonatas by Kogan and Gilels, for instance, comes up.
But it comes up with no shopping cart, so is not orderable.
>I wrote:
>
>> Besides Aulos, yes24.com also lists
>> Triton, which can also be entered in the search field in English. The disc of
>> 3 Beethoven violin sonatas by Kogan and Gilels, for instance, comes up.
>
>But it comes up with no shopping cart, so is not orderable.
Yes, every single one of the Yedangs that I managed to get into my
shopping cart during my abortive attempt at ordering (exactly two
months ago) now appears on the site without the shopping cart icon :-(
I wonder if the label is kaput, or undergoing some other change.
AC
Berkshire just added some more Yedangs, still $2.99 each.
Paul Goldstein