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David Shengold

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Sep 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/25/99
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How about Arnold Bax's "Tintagel" Symphony- any recording tips?

-David Shengold

Tony Movshon

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"David Shengold" <shen...@pobox.upenn.edu> writes:
> How about Arnold Bax's "Tintagel" Symphony- any recording tips?

A gorgeous piece, but a symphonic poem, not a complete symphony.
Boult's recording on Lyrita is wonderful and there's a good Barbirolli
recording floating around somewhere on EMI.

Tintagel's odd blend of influences (some Parsifal, some La Mer, some
who-knows-what) makes it a fun quiz piece: play it for someone who
doesn't know Bax and ask them to identify the composer.

Tony Movshon mov...@nyu.edu
Center for Neural Science New York University

FEB

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Sep 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/25/99
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"Tintagel" really is not a symphony, per se, but a sort of
a tone poem. Nevertheless, in my opinion you've mentioned
the most thrilling of Bax's orchestral output.

The work has two nice recordings by Bryden Thomson and the
Ulster Orchestra, both on the Chandos label.

One is coupled with the Bax Fourth Symphony and the other
with four other tone poems. In fact, both Tintagel
recordings may very well be the same performance, which is
a fine one. So, it depends upon what you'd like as a
coupling.


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van...@my-deja.com

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In article <7si9n6$hc2$1...@netnews.upenn.edu>,

"David Shengold" <shen...@pobox.upenn.edu> wrote:
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> How about Arnold Bax's "Tintagel" Symphony- any recording tips?
>
> -David Shengold

I've enjoyed RSNO/Lloyd-Jones (NAXOS) so far in their Bax cycle
(Symphonies and other orchestral works). I'll probaly stick with them
and wait for Tintagel.


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John Carter

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Welcome to the world of Bax."Tintagel" is a symphonic poem, but this means
different things to different composers. for example it is not programmatic
like Strauss or Elgars "Falstaff".the idea is that Bax is a Celt and
belonged to a British school somewhere between impressionism and
expressionism. they were also influenced by the nature poets and occultism.
Wagner is never far away.I have seen one writer interpret the Third
Symphony as the Siegfried Saga..In effect it is more Celtic than that.
Barbirollis reading is maybe the best.I think it is now on EMIs British
Music series.
You should explore the Symphonies if you like the Tintagle. There is a
recording of the Third.[That dragon slaying one mentioned above] with
Barbirolli which is1944 but will serve until we get theLloyd-Jones Also on
this disc is Irelands "Forgotton Rite" another symphonic poem of the same
school..another important SP is "the Garden of Fand" Celtic folklore again,
The Garden of Fand is the sea..The Lloyd-Jones Naxos recording includes
this, "In the Faery Hills" and Symphony #1
I think these serve as the best introduction offering two items by Ireland
as well. as a strong representation of Bax by maybe the best two conductors.
The Lyrita Bax by Boult is also worth having if you become addicted.In
effect several American composers were at one period influenced by the same
writers. Machen, Blackwood , Poe,.Yeats also was a strong influence.etc and
I hope to see them included in the Naxos American Classics and I rather hope
that Lloyd-Jones does them. I know of no existing recordings but look out
for"The Island of the Fay" after Poe, by Gilbert etc.
John Carter Barsoom.
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van...@my-deja.com

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In article <7siumd$pcj$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>,

"John Carter" <jrca...@marcopolo26.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
<<Welcome to the world of Bax.>>

John, I'm sure you're aware of the Bax site, including A Conversation
with Lloyd-Jones, but I'll put it here anyway for other Bax enthusiasts
who might not know of it--

http://www.musicweb.force9.co.uk/music/bax/welcome.htm

Regards

D Krause

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Raymond Hall <hallr...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> FWIW, I hope Naxos intend to use David Lloyd-Jones a lot more.

I second that. A fine conductor.

> His RVW Job, and also the Delius collection (Florida suite etc.,) on
> Naxos are really quite superb.

Also excellent on his Naxos recordings of Bliss's Cello Concerto and Colour
Symphony.

Happy listening.

Tripletz

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Sep 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/25/99
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I have two recordings. One is one of the thomposn's referenced earlier--the
other is with the BBC Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Edward Downes. It
was on the now defunct Carlton Classic Label and was probably available for a
nanosecond in this country. The Thompson is better anyway.
You might want to investigate some of Bax's Chamber Music as well.

Raymond Hall

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Sep 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/26/99
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FWIW, I hope Naxos intend to use David Lloyd-Jones a lot more. I
remember he did some excellent Borodin on a Universo LP way back when
.....


His RVW Job, and also the Delius collection (Florida suite etc.,) on

Naxos are really quite superb. When I see his name I don't normally
worry about reviews, such is my esteem of this conductor. Hope he is not
long in recording Tintagel - a truly superb work, and Bax at his
brooding best. And I hope he is allowed to record many more works by
Delius (Sea Drift would be nice).

Regards,

Ray Hall, Sydney

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