RIP John Wilson
Curtis Croulet
ng, expert on Toscanini and Bruno Walter and many other things, passed away
overnight. John was a regular attendee of the annual Brucknerthons (I last
saw him Sep 1), and was always a source of great stories and opinions. We
are the poorer without him.
--
Curtis Croulet
Temecula, California
33°27'59"N, 117°05'53"W
Dontait...@aol.com
wrote:
I am dismayed and greatly saddened. I didn't know him beyond his
posts here, but yes, we'll be much the poorer without him. Thank you
for passing this sad information on, Curtis.
Don Tait
Don Tait
Matthew B. Tepper
following letters to be typed in news:ptMVi.8564$R%4.7275@trnddc05:
> It has just been relayed to me that John Wilson, frequent contributer to
> the ng, expert on Toscanini and Bruno Walter and many other things, passed
> away overnight. John was a regular attendee of the annual Brucknerthons
> (I last saw him Sep 1), and was always a source of great stories and
> opinions. We are the poorer without him.
This is indeed terrible news. Lawrence Kasimow informed me privately before
I accessed the newsgroup, so I was already aware of it.
John was truly a good spirit and I always thought it was so generous and kind
of him to share his knowledge, his good humor, and his love of music with all
his friends. Not to mention the fine transfers that he made. I'll miss him.
--
Matthew B. Tepper: WWW, science fiction, classical music, ducks!
My personal home page -- http://home.earthlink.net/~oy/index.html
My main music page --- http://home.earthlink.net/~oy/berlioz.html
To write to me, do for my address what Androcles did for the lion
War is Peace. ** Freedom is Slavery. ** It's all Napster's fault!
Richard Loeb
news:u18fi3phiab1nbc0g...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:28:05 GMT, "Curtis Croulet"
> <calypte@_NO_SPAM_verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>It has just been relayed to me that John Wilson, frequent contributer to
>>the
>>ng, expert on Toscanini and Bruno Walter and many other things, passed
>>away
>>overnight. John was a regular attendee of the annual Brucknerthons (I
>>last
>>saw him Sep 1), and was always a source of great stories and opinions. We
>>are the poorer without him.
>
>
> While I never met John in person, we swapped musical rarities by mail,
> communicated via email and phone on a number of occasions. His
> transfers of Bruno Walter's Brahms symphonies rivaled the eventual
> reissue of them on CD. He was extremely generous with his assistance
> and advice about the process of transferring vinyl to digital, which
> helped me get started with my own collection.
>
> John was a wonderful, kind soul. He will be missed.
Very sorry to hear that Richard
phlmae...@yahoo.com
wrote:
This is really shocking and sad news. I think it was just the other
day that I saw him giving advice on transfers to someone on here.
He'll be missed.
Barry
Russ and/or Martha Oppenheim
"Curtis Croulet" <calypte@_NO_SPAM_verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ptMVi.8564$R%4.7275@trnddc05...
What sad news!
I had an enjoyable correspondence and some CD exchanges with John dating
back to 2003. At the time we were both remastering the Browning/Leinsdorf
Prokofiev PF Concertos, unbeknownst to one another. I'll always be sorry
that I never got to meet him personally.
Russ (not Martha)
Curtis Croulet
different CD issues of Bruno Walter's Brahms symphonies. John had done a
limited-issue set himself, and this was right up his alley of expertise
(recorded sound, restoration, Bruno Walter), but he knew much else besides.
John did most of the restoration work on M&A's issue of Walter's NY Phil
Beethoven symphonies (I hope I'm not slighting the work done by Ramon
Khalona and Aaron Snyder). John really loved music. He often had very
incisive opinions, but he was also genial and personally generous. I think
he particularly enjoyed the human side of great musicians, the juxtaposition
of flaws and greatness. He could talk about a great recording and then
share a catty story that he'd heard.
td
wrote:
> ng, expert on Toscanini and Bruno Walter and many other things, passed away
> overnight. John was a regular attendee of the annual Brucknerthons (I last
> saw him Sep 1), and was always a source of great stories and opinions. We
> are the poorer without him.
Well, I would be the last person to wish death upon anyone - unlike
our house duck Tepper - but I have to say that after several run-ins
with Mr. Wilson over the years, I won't miss his commentary.
Here is but one example:
<<It so happens that I have a very nice collections of some of
Tommy's
more vile comments to members which I append below. However, none of
these are anti-simitic. If after reading these you still think he is
a charming old man with the milk of human kindness flowing and open
to
civilized debate let us know.>>
He probably died believing that he knew how to spell anti-semitic!!!
Yes indeed. RIP. And GR as well.
TD
Curtis Croulet
It's a mighty struggle, but I won't take the bait.
ansermetniac
You really are a fuckin' asshole , Deacon. Jesus loves you more than
you will know, woa woa woa
Abbedd
Rich S.
transfers.
Rich
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:28:05 GMT, "Curtis Croulet"
<calypte@_NO_SPAM_verizon.net> wrote:
TareeDawg
> It has just been relayed to me that John Wilson, frequent contributer to the
> ng, expert on Toscanini and Bruno Walter and many other things, passed away
> overnight. John was a regular attendee of the annual Brucknerthons (I last
> saw him Sep 1), and was always a source of great stories and opinions. We
> are the poorer without him.
I never knew him apart from his posts, but I did manage to acquire a
photo of him with his much beloved dog. He seemed the sort of guy one
would have wanted to know.
RIP
Ray (Dawg) Hall, Taree
Bob Lombard
JW was an interesting, knowledgeable poster, and based on the evidence I
have a skillful "Cap'n". He was also a genteel communicator, except when
dealing with Mr. Deacon, whose deliberate unpleasantness obviously got under
his skin. He would, I'm sure, be gratified to know (based on Deacon's
'obit') that he managed to get to Tom's tender places in return.
bl
Dave Cook
I wish I'd gotten to know him better.
Dave Cook
The Historian
wrote:
I'm sorry I didn't know him aside from his newsgroup postings. I
enjoyed his comments here. My condolences to his many friends, here
and elsewhere.
Neil Brennen
rkhalona
> This is terrible news indeed. A few months ago I talked to John. I can't
> believe that he is gone.
>
Neither can I. I've just returned from his place and I still can't
believe it.
Those of us who got to know John will miss his sense of humor and his
deep knowledge of music.
I had great fun transferring a couple hundred OOP LPs (many of which
have now seen legit reissues -- we used to joke that all we needed for
a legit reissue was for us to spend many hours on the LP transfer).
John was also uncommonly generous and loved to share good music with
people.
He shall be missed.
Ramon
Matthew B. Tepper
following letters to be typed in news:13ifo2n...@corp.supernews.com:
> JW was an interesting, knowledgeable poster, and based on the evidence I
> have a skillful "Cap'n". He was also a genteel communicator, except when
> dealing with Mr. Deacon, whose deliberate unpleasantness obviously got
> under his skin. He would, I'm sure, be gratified to know (based on Deacon's
> 'obit') that he managed to get to Tom's tender places in return.
It was very unusual for John to have an unkind word for anybody (other than
certain politicians), but it's obvious that this was a special case.
What hasn't been said about John so far is that, as far as I'm aware, he was
actively promoting and facilitating Christian worship at several churches.
His "day job," of which he was apparently a noted practitioner, was that of a
pipe organ repairman and maintainer (and perhaps restorer). He didn't want
to say anything about it on the newsgroup because he preferred a low profile
but I guess there's no harm in mentioning it now.
John was full of amusing stories about Virgil Fox, whom he had known well.
I'm sure they're talking "shop" in the Great Beyond right now; I only wish
that their re-meeting could have waited for many more years.
There's a lot more I could say about John, but I'll probably parcel it out
over a while as I catch up with the sad truth. It's still such a shock.
Bob Harper
(snip; unworthy of repetition)
> TD
>
>
Tom, as I once heard my fifth-grade teacher say to someone who'd done
something naughty (though nowhere near as disgusting as your vicious
remarks), you'd have to reach up to touch the belly of a snake.
Bob Harper
rkhalona
> "Bob Lombard" <thorsteinnos...@vermontel.net> appears to have caused the
> following letters to be typed innews:13ifo2n...@corp.supernews.com:
>
> > JW was an interesting, knowledgeable poster, and based on the evidence I
> > have a skillful "Cap'n". He was also a genteel communicator, except when
> > dealing with Mr. Deacon, whose deliberate unpleasantness obviously got
> > under his skin. He would, I'm sure, be gratified to know (based on Deacon's
> > 'obit') that he managed to get to Tom's tender places in return.
>
> It was very unusual for John to have an unkind word for anybody (other than
> certain politicians), but it's obvious that this was a special case.
>
> What hasn't been said about John so far is that, as far as I'm aware, he was
> actively promoting and facilitating Christian worship at several churches.
> His "day job," of which he was apparently a noted practitioner, was that of a
> pipe organ repairman and maintainer (and perhaps restorer). He didn't want
> to say anything about it on the newsgroup because he preferred a low profile
> but I guess there's no harm in mentioning it now.
>
What you say is true in the strict sense about "actively promoting and
facilitating Christian worship," because he did work on organs, but he
was not religious (in fact, he was atheist) and he especially deplored
the ascent of the Christian right in the U.S.A. Just setting the
record straight.
RK
rkhalona
wrote:
John, David Fox, Lawrence Kasimow and I had enjoyed a good part of an
afternoon comparing all the transfers of Walter's mono Brahms cycle
and he summarized the conclusions on the post you cited.
He had a keen ear for detecting artifacts caused by the restoration
process and always tried to avoid them in his restorations. In that
sense, he was somewhat of a perfectionist, but certainly not an
interventionist.
I met John in a very funny way. He posted a "For sale" here and one
of the items was Sinopoli's Bruckner 8th.
I immediately pounced on it and we started corresponding after he
shipped the set to me. A few months later I had him over with other
friends at my place for a barbecue and I played part of the Sinopoli
for him without telling him who it was. He liked the recording that
time and admitted he had gotten rid of it to soon and had to buy it
back (though not from me).
RK
Brendan R. Wehrung
Now that you've had the last word, do you feel better?
Brendan
Matthew B. Tepper
to be typed in news:1193805876.1...@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
Of course, hence my very careful phrasing. Regardless of his own atheism,
John was very much a "live and let live" person, and not a preachy person
claiming to be one of those Christians who give Christians a bad name. Some
of those are indeed the religious right (whose influence in U.S. politics may
well have peaked), and there might be some elsewhere, such as in newsgroups.
Matthew B. Tepper
> John, David Fox, Lawrence Kasimow and I had enjoyed a good part of an
> afternoon comparing all the transfers of Walter's mono Brahms cycle and he
> summarized the conclusions on the post you cited. He had a keen ear for
> detecting artifacts caused by the restoration process and always tried to
> avoid them in his restorations. In that sense, he was somewhat of a
> perfectionist, but certainly not an interventionist.
He gave generously of his time to me, giving me a tutorial of various noise-
reduction techniques. I'm not sure I can ever go it as well or as thoroughly
as he did, but I do feel that I learned a lot.
> I met John in a very funny way. He posted a "For sale" here and one of the
> items was Sinopoli's Bruckner 8th. I immediately pounced on it and we
> started corresponding after he shipped the set to me. A few months later I
> had him over with other friends at my place for a barbecue and I played
> part of the Sinopoli for him without telling him who it was. He liked the
> recording that time and admitted he had gotten rid of it to soon and had to
> buy it back (though not from me).
In my case, it was our shared interest in Toscanini recordings. When he
found out that I had a good number of the old Clyde Key LPs and many other
scarce items, he was delighted, and he would often ask me very humbly if he
could borrow this or that one. He would always return these items in perfect
condition along with a copy of his transfer, along with a couple of other
items that he thought I might like (or for which I'd specifically asked).
He also transferred a number of odds and ends for me before I was completely
set up to do so myself. These included a recording I had made, in the Hi-Fi
tracks of a VHS tape, of Don Tait's program of years ago where he played the
Rhené-Baton recording of the Symphonie fantastique, and also a cassette
containing a couple of San Francisco Symphony broadcasts I particularly liked
along with a live performance of a student composition of mine conducted by a
graduate student named Kent Nagano.
Very occasionally John would phone me out of the blue with some amusing news,
or a tidbit of musical information he thought would interest me. He was
never wrong. I'm sad to say that I hadn't been much in touch with him over
the last several months, although I remember how excited he was to receive
his own copy of that Toscanini Bruckner 7th once I had gotten copies of it
sent me from Japan. Since I had gotten three copies of it "as issued" (yes,
a CDR, but with its own printed "label" and "booklet' mimicking the look of a
commercial release), the third for a friend not currently posting here, he
was happy to pay me a third of my total costs, which was awfully generous.
David Fox
had the pleasure to know. What I will miss most about him
was his his deep sense of friendship and loyalty, as well as his
wicked sense of humor. After spending the afternoon at his place with
Ramon, I stopped by Amoeba. I didn't go to buy anything. I just went
to
remember the many hours of fun John and I had trading observations
and jokes while pouring through the stacks. During the drive back I
listened to the Klemperer "Das Liede", one of his favorite recordings
by one of his favorite composers.
RIP John.
DF
David Fox
I can see how this spontaneous outpouring of emotion over John's
passing must bother you. John was everything you are not: extremely
knowledgeable, yet self-effacing; kind and generous; and probably most
disconcerting to you, genuinely well liked and respected by all who
came to know him through whatever channel.
John would be delighted to know that the posting of his you chose to
quote to make whatever point you were trying to make was one in which
he compiled some of your greatest hits. And what was the point that
you were so eager to post on the day that John died? That he
misspelled "anti-Semitic"? No doubt if he were as well practiced in
the subject as you, he would not have misspelled the word.
Since you are obviously so fond of the post quoted from above, I will
enclose the rest in John's memory. I don't know why it bothers you so
much. You wrote every word of it.
DF
P.S. Sorry, Curtis - you're a better man than me.
>From: Tom Deacon (deacon...@nospam-yahoo.com)
>Subject: Re: Maulers or Musicians?
>View: Complete Thread (31 articles)
>Original Format
>Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.recordings
>Date: 2004-08-05 06:38:20 PST
>What an asshole!
>From: Tom Deacon (deacon...@nospam-yahoo.com) >Subject: Re: Beethoven Symphonies >View: Complete Thread (156 articles) >Original Format >Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.recordings >Date: 2004-07-27 15:41:29 PST
>Vile little piece of scum.
>From: Tom Deacon (deacon...@nospam-yahoo.com) >Subject: Re: Great Conductors - Furtwangler >View: Complete Thread (91 articles) >Original Format >Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.recordings >Date: 2004-07-25 14:36:13 PST
>Beat your wife, why don't you!
>From: Tom Deacon (deacon...@nospam-yahoo.com) >Subject: Re: Furtwangler film - "Taking Sides" >View: Complete Thread (158 articles) >Original Format >Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.recordings >Date: 2004-07-21 14:35:42 PST
>you don't know shit!
>From: Tom Deacon (deacon...@nospam-yahoo.com) >Subject: Re: Furtwangler film - "Taking Sides" >View: Complete Thread (158 articles) >Original Format >Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.recordings >Date: 2004-07-15 05:24:06 PST
>In the meantime: SHUT THE FUCK UP!
>From: Tom Deacon (deacon...@nospam-yahoo.com) >Subject: Re: Personal question about Berlin or NYC >View: Complete Thread (195 articles) >Original Format >Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.recordings >Date: 2004-07-15 05:23:21 PST
>If anyone should "shut up", close their mouths, stuff it, or go fuck >themselves in the left ear, it is people like --.
>From: Tom Deacon (deacon...@nospam-yahoo.com) >Subject: Re: Barenboim replacement >View: Complete Thread (348 articles) >Original Format >Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.recordings >Date: 2004-07-12 04:51:18 PST
>What an asshole!
>From: Tom Deacon (deacon...@yahoo.com) >Subject: Re: Slight OT: Argerich in NYC -- is she playing? >View: Complete Thread (35 articles) >Original Format >Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.recordings >Date: 2004-04-27 17:56:24 PST
>Then you have to be able to shove your shit right back down your >arrogant little throat.
>On 17 Feb 2007 19:57:02 -0800, "tomdeacon" <tomdedea...@mac.com> wrote:
>>You blow more bullshit out of your horn in a minute than I could ever >>do in a lifetime.
>>Suck wind, asshole.
chez_toscanini
Ciao John from Italy
Ezio
td
> Very sorry to hear this. A perfect evening to play one of his
> transfers.
?????
The worst misrepresentation of a Virgil Fox LP was made by Mr. Wilson.
I have zero respect for his claimed abilities. He was unable to take
that criticism on the chin and metamorphosed into one of the nastiest
people I have met in this mud-wrestling forum.
TD
td
wrote:
He didn't, Bob.
He just revealed his true self.
Teflon Tom here.
TD
td
LOL
But the snake provided the apple, Bob.
What do you have against snakes? Perhaps some therapy would help. I
know a zoo that needs helpers to manage a particular section.
TD
td
> What you say is true in the strict sense about "actively promoting and
> facilitating Christian worship," because he did work on organs, but he
> was not religious (in fact, he was atheist) and he especially deplored
> the ascent of the Christian right in the U.S.A.
I didn't need to be told that, of course. It was obvious.
TD
td
wrote:
Apparently it is FAR from the last word.
TD
td
> I can see how this spontaneous outpouring of emotion over John's
> passing must bother you.
Bother me?
Not at all. Birds of a feather have a tendency to flock together. Old
Chinese proverb.
John was everything you are not: extremely
> knowledgeable, yet self-effacing; kind and generous; and probably most
> disconcerting to you, genuinely well liked and respected by all who
> came to know him through whatever channel.
And also one of the nastiest people I have had to tangle with in this
forum. If you need proof, you only need to search the archives.
> John would be delighted to know that the posting of his you chose to
> quote to make whatever point you were trying to make was one in which
> he compiled some of your greatest hits. And what was the point that
> you were so eager to post on the day that John died? That he
> misspelled "anti-Semitic"? No doubt if he were as well practiced in
> the subject as you, he would not have misspelled the word.
It's always good to know how to spell, twinkle-toes. It used to be a
virtue, but alas in recent years spell-check has made people very bad
spellers.
> Since you are obviously so fond of the post quoted from above, I will
> enclose the rest in John's memory. I don't know why it bothers you so
> much. You wrote every word of it.
Absolutely.
And I'll repeat one just for little ol you.
Suck wind, asshole.
Happy now, twinkle-toes?
TD
A. Brain
news:1193802130....@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
One of the many reasons I had hoped to make the
"Brucknerthon" a few years ago. And it's always sad
when a truly civilized person--classical music lover
and dog lover--passes away. Perhaps someone will
post a link to the obituary?
--
A. Brain
Remove NOSPAM for email.
td
> "rkhalona" <rkhal...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
A dog lover too?
Why that changes everything. Anyone who loves dogs can't be all bad.
But someone who loves Bruckner?
Hmmmmmmm.
TD
Richard Loeb
. "David Fox" <davidf...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1193813253.7...@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
Please don't let Deacons words spoil these messages about John Wilson.
Everyone knows he is a fraud and a phony who only appears more ridiculous
with each message. But more than that he is envious since he knows when he
passes on (I hope the curse my Italian mother taught me works -- and soon)
he will get nothing like the feelings expressed here. Just relief that he is
gone - the poor slob. Richard
td
> Please don't let Deacons words spoil these messages about John Wilson.
What? You mean you want to ENJOY this moment of his death?
What religion does that follow, Dickey?
> Everyone knows he is a fraud and a phony who only appears more ridiculous
> with each message.
Quite the contrary. I say what I mean and mean what I say. Would you
prefer me to mouth some platitudes about JW, how "nice" he was, what a
gentleman? That when he was one of the nastiest people on this forum,
who was unable to swallow the criticism I levelled at the "person" who
had perpetrated a sonic monstrosity upon the artistry of Virgil Fox?
You would want me to forget that?
No way, Jose.
But more than that he is envious since he knows when he
> passes on (I hope the curse my Italian mother taught me works -- and soon)
> he will get nothing like the feelings expressed here. Just relief that he is
> gone - the poor slob.
Oh, I see. It will be OK for you to poop upon me upon my demise. Why
not join Tepper and wish my death? But of course you've already done
that with your silly little "Italian" curse. As though I give a flying
fuck, Dickey!
This is utter hypocrisy.
And not sanctioned by ANY religion known to man, let alone anything to
do with the "Judeo-Christian" beliefs.
TD
David Fox
wrote:
> > Yes indeed. RIP. And GR as well.
>
> --
> Curtis Croulet
> Temecula, California
> 33°27'59"N, 117°05'53"W
Curtis,
Again, my apologies for replying to Deacon. Your stance on the matter
is the no doubt the wisest. I responsed to Deacon's post because I
knew that John would have done the same for me if the situation were
reversed.
It is sad and entirely predictable that Deacon would feel the need to
hijack John's eulogy thread. What more need be said?
DF
td
> It is sad and entirely predictable that Deacon would feel the need to
> hijack John's eulogy thread. What more need be said?
Hijack?
I have a gun to your head, do I?
I simply stated my opinion. If others choose to follow the model of
the late Mr. Wilson and reply in a characteristic fashion, then that
is their choice. It was yours, although you wrap youself in the cloak
of the late Mr. Wilson in replying, rather than to do so on your own
initiative.
What a weasel!
What more need be said?
For starters, each and every one of us here is entitled and free to
state his opinions. You, and others, have stood by while Tepper wished
death upon me without raising even a tiny objection. Probably afraid
of being "plonked"!!! Cowardly sheep come to mind at moments like
that.
It is not that I CARE what Tepper says or does in this life, but I do
judge others on their sins of both commission AND omission.
TD
bob.h...@comcast.net
> On Oct 31, 12:39 am, Bob Harper <bob.har...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > td wrote:
>
> > (snip; unworthy of repetition)
>
> > > TD
>
> > Tom, as I once heard my fifth-grade teacher say to someone who'd done
> > something naughty (though nowhere near as disgusting as your vicious
> > remarks), you'd have to reach up to touch the belly of a snake.
>
> LOL
>
> But the snake provided the apple, Bob.
Meaning?
> What do you have against snakes?
Absolutely nothing. Though I do pity the one whose belly had to suffer
your touch.
>Perhaps some therapy would help.
Yes, you could definitely use a great deal of the intensive variety.
> I know a zoo that needs helpers to manage a particular section.
I'm sure you'd be a top candidate for the position; it will be a nice
supplement to your retirement income.
Bob Harper
>
> TD
Sacqueboutier
<calypte@_NO_SPAM_verizon.net> said:
> It has just been relayed to me that John Wilson, frequent contributer to the
> ng, expert on Toscanini and Bruno Walter and many other things, passed away
> overnight. John was a regular attendee of the annual Brucknerthons (I last
> saw him Sep 1), and was always a source of great stories and opinions. We
> are the poorer without him.
My computer was in the shop and this is my first log-in in a
few days.
This is very sad news, indeed.
I always enjoyed his very knowledgeble posts and his website
was a joy to explore.
He will be sorely missed.
--
--
Kindest regards,
Don
Sacqueboutier
Wehrung) said:
An absolutely vile sentiment, Tom. I'm ashamed for you.
Sacqueboutier
Surely this must be the last straw for any civil human being.
I urge all contributors to this NG to PLONK Deacon immediately.
Venom such as his deserves an old fashioned Amish shunning.
Frank Berger
died? That he
>> misspelled "anti-Semitic"? No doubt if he were as well practiced in
>> the subject as you, he would not have misspelled the word.
I'm sure John knew what the term means, which Deacon has demonstrated
frequently he does not.
> Surely this must be the last straw for any civil human being.
> I urge all contributors to this NG to PLONK Deacon immediately.
Done. A long time ago.
Bob Lombard
news:2007103115394850073-Nospam@somewherenet...
>
> Surely this must be the last straw for any civil human being.
> I urge all contributors to this NG to PLONK Deacon immediately.
> Venom such as his deserves an old fashioned Amish shunning.
>
everywhere I go. I need TD as a daily reminder that there are 'others' out
there, because I can go for days without thinking of Osama and/or his ilk.
bl
td
wrote:
> In my retirement I seem to be surrounded by decent people; hundreds of them,
> everywhere I go.
Seconded.
It is only here that one discovers just how miserable the human race
really is when released from the bonds of normal social intercourse.
The Internet has, I am sure, created monsters from people who seem, at
least on the surface and to my eyes, reasonable and entirely sociable.
The Jeffrey Powells (when is he going to seek psychiatric help, I
wonder), the
Don Pattersons, the Matthew Teppers, the Frank Bergers, probably all
take good care of their animals, obey traffic laws, and so on. But
here they have become distasteful monsters.
In real life, on the other hand, the people I am surrounded by are
salt-of-the-earth types who harbour no resentments or deep-seated
anger against humanity, who go to church on Sunday, take their
children around the neighbourhood on Halloween, and generally comport
themselves with great dignity and respect for others.
TD
ansermetniac
Is Don the token goy or is he an honorary Jew , for Deacon's purposes.
I can just hear Deacon saying, "He might as well be a Jew"
Tommy, if you tried real hard, you could not become a more useless
excuse for a human being. Just be yourself.
The ultimate humiliation for Deacon? Being told by Ansermet, at the
pearly gates, that he can't come in.
Abbedd
Matthew B. Tepper
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>> Surely this must be the last straw for any civil human being.
>> I urge all contributors to this NG to PLONK Deacon immediately.
>
> Done. A long time ago.
Me too, obviously. I wish that more people would follow suit. A newsgroup
where Deacon is invisible and ignored would be a huge improvement.
Richard Loeb
"ansermetniac" <anserm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:l65ii3pctnu3c74ia...@4ax.com...
And Deacon has displayed absolutely none of those qualities here -= what he
writes is the height of hypocrisy!!!! Richard
Richard Schultz
: "Frank Berger" <frank.d...@dal.frb.org> appears to have caused the
: following letters to be typed in news:13ihn1h...@news.supernews.com:
:>> Surely this must be the last straw for any civil human being.
:>> I urge all contributors to this NG to PLONK Deacon immediately.
:> Done. A long time ago.
: Me too, obviously. I wish that more people would follow suit. A newsgroup
: where Deacon is invisible and ignored would be a huge improvement.
Who is this "Deacon" person you people keep talking about?
-----
Richard Schultz sch...@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
"an optimist is a guy/ that has never had/ much experience"
Matthew B. Tepper
following letters to be typed in news:fgbp61$2ca$1...@news.iucc.ac.il:
> In article <Xns99DAB91C793...@216.168.3.70>, Matthew B.
> Tepper <oy?@earthlink.net> wrote:
>: "Frank Berger" <frank.d...@dal.frb.org> appears to have caused the
>: following letters to be typed in
>: news:13ihn1h...@news.supernews.com:
>
>:>> Surely this must be the last straw for any civil human being.
>:>> I urge all contributors to this NG to PLONK Deacon immediately.
>
>:> Done. A long time ago.
>
>: Me too, obviously. I wish that more people would follow suit. A
>: newsgroup where Deacon is invisible and ignored would be a huge
>: improvement.
>
> Who is this "Deacon" person you people keep talking about?
The bald guy on "The Dick Van Dyke Show"?
Richard Schultz
: sch...@mail.biu.ack.il (Richard Schultz) appears to have caused the
: following letters to be typed in news:fgbp61$2ca$1...@news.iucc.ac.il:
:> Who is this "Deacon" person you people keep talking about?
:
: The bald guy on "The Dick Van Dyke Show"?
What did he do that made people want to shun him?
-----
Richard Schultz sch...@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad."
td
> Being told by Ansermet, at the pearly gates, that he can't come in.
Ansermet at the pearly gates.
Hell, they didn't even let him in the heavenly band!!!
TD
td
> Who is this "Deacon" person you people keep talking about?
In a word, the person they have been unable to silence. Who believes
in the inalienable right of all people to speak their minds. Who
believes the Palestinians have a right to their homeland. Who believes
that the Zionists are blatant thieves. Who believes that copying - and
sharing(sic!) - are theft and punishable by fine or imprisonment,
preferably both. Who loathes Toscanini. Who thinks Jeffrey Powell, the
late John Wilson, Matthew B. Tepper, Dickey Loeb, David "twinkletoes"
Fox, and Don "the hornblower" Patterson are sad excuses for human
beings, albeit forgiveable for their sins by an all-loving God.
That's who.
TD
Matthew B. Tepper
> In article <Xns99DAF267DA7...@216.168.3.70>, Matthew B.
> Tepper <oy?@earthlink.net> wrote:
>: sch...@mail.biu.ack.il (Richard Schultz) appears to have caused the
>: following letters to be typed in news:fgbp61$2ca$1...@news.iucc.ac.il:
>
>:> Who is this "Deacon" person you people keep talking about?
>:
>: The bald guy on "The Dick Van Dyke Show"?
>
> What did he do that made people want to shun him?
I think it was the way he treated Buddy Sorrell.
ansermetniac
>Who
>believes the Palestinians have a right to their homeland.
You should read the book of Genesis. God disagrees with you.
Also, read the history oif the 1948 war. History disagrees with you
Abbedd
ansermetniac
<oy兀earthlink.net> wrote:
>sch...@mail.biu.ack.il (Richard Schultz) appears to have caused the
>following letters to be typed in news:fgc7rb$a8t$1...@news.iucc.ac.il:
>
>> In article <Xns99DAF267DA7...@216.168.3.70>, Matthew B.
>> Tepper <oy?@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>: sch...@mail.biu.ack.il (Richard Schultz) appears to have caused the
>>: following letters to be typed in news:fgbp61$2ca$1...@news.iucc.ac.il:
>>
>>:> Who is this "Deacon" person you people keep talking about?
>>:
>>: The bald guy on "The Dick Van Dyke Show"?
>>
>> What did he do that made people want to shun him?
>
>I think it was the way he treated Buddy Sorrell.
or Lumpy Rutherford
Abbedd
Thomas Blythe
> sch...@mail.biu.ack.il (Richard Schultz) appears to have caused the
> following letters to be typed in news:fgc7rb$a8t$1...@news.iucc.ac.il:
>
>> In article <Xns99DAF267DA7...@216.168.3.70>, Matthew B.
>> Tepper <oy?@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>: sch...@mail.biu.ack.il (Richard Schultz) appears to have caused the :
>>following letters to be typed in news:fgbp61$2ca$1...@news.iucc.ac.il:
>>
>>:> Who is this "Deacon" person you people keep talking about? :
>>: The bald guy on "The Dick Van Dyke Show"?
>>
>> What did he do that made people want to shun him?
>
> I think it was the way he treated Buddy Sorrell.
LOL!
Laura always liked him though.
Matthew B. Tepper
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And he was like a father to Lumpy Rutherford.
td
> On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 03:54:20 -0700, td <tomdedea...@mac.com> wrote:
> >Who
> >believes the Palestinians have a right to their homeland.
>
> You should read the book of Genesis. God disagrees with you.
God wrote the Book of Genesis?
Do you have an autographed copy?
> Also, read the history oif the 1948 war. History disagrees with you
Wars don't solve property disputes.
They only create more wars.
What an idiot!
TD
ansermetniac
>On Nov 1, 11:00 am, ansermetniac <ansermetn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 03:54:20 -0700, td <tomdedea...@mac.com> wrote:
>> >Who
>> >believes the Palestinians have a right to their homeland.
>>
>> You should read the book of Genesis. God disagrees with you.
>
>God wrote the Book of Genesis?
Some Christian you are?
>
>Do you have an autographed copy?
>
>> Also, read the history oif the 1948 war. History disagrees with you
>
>Wars don't solve property disputes.
Tell that to the Arabs. They attacked and lost. The Jews had no tanks
and for the first few months had no guns. How did they lose?
Perhaps, when God says something, HE MEANS IT. And no anti-semite
blashphemer can change the word of God, including those who preach
replacement theory on a pulpit in front of a Cross
Abbedd
O
<tomde...@mac.com> wrote:
War's sole utility is to resolve property disputes. They're not about
money, religion, Helen of Troy or anything else. Their sole purpose is
to take away possession of real estate, in one form or another.
> They only create more wars.
Only when another property dispute rises up.
-Owen
Rich S.
(Richard Schultz) wrote:
>
>Who is this "Deacon" person you people keep talking about?
>
Someone very toxic...
ne...@thump.org
<oy兀earthlink.net> wrote:
>Me too, obviously. I wish that more people would follow suit. A newsgroup
>where Deacon is invisible and ignored would be a huge improvement.
HE's the only person in my fillfile !
Andrew Clarke
> Who is this "Deacon" person you people keep talking about?
Edgar (Bosworth) Deacon, artist, a recurrent figure in Anthony
Powell's A Dance to the Music of Time, considered in the 1930s to be
possibly the worst painter ever, but brought back into fashion by a
triumphant posthumous retrospective in the 1970s. Keeper of an antique
shop in Soho, and a frequenter of rather naughty young men, who died
after a bad fall downstairs at a seedy nightclub on his birthday,
while attempting to make a complaint to the management about the state
of the plumbing.
Why Mr Thomas Deacon prefers Norbert Kraft to Segovia is beyond me.
Perhaps he thinks the former is some kind of Canadian processed
cheese?
Andrew Clarke
Canberra
td
> Perhaps, when God says something, HE MEANS IT. And no anti-semite
> blashphemer can change the word of God, including those who preach
> replacement theory on a pulpit in front of a Cross.
Not an idiot.
Worse.
A half-wit.
TD
td
> >Me too, obviously. I wish that more people would follow suit. A newsgroup
> >where Deacon is invisible and ignored would be a huge improvement.
>
> HE's the only person in my fillfile !
What a distinction!
Do you also give out medals?
TD
td
> Why Mr Thomas Deacon prefers Norbert Kraft to Segovia is beyond me.
> Perhaps he thinks the former is some kind of Canadian processed
> cheese?
Don't know a "Thomas Deacon".
My name is Tom. Period.
As for Mr. Kraft, he is not a cheese, but a fine guitarist. Married to
Bonnie Silver last time I checked. She's a pianist. They both live in
Toronto, Canada.
Segovia? Well, he's dead, among other things.
TD
The Historian
> In article <Xns99DAB91C793F1quackandf...@216.168.3.70>, Matthew B. Tepper <o...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> : "Frank Berger" <frank.d.ber...@dal.frb.org> appears to have caused the
> : following letters to be typed innews:13ihn1h...@news.supernews.com:
>
> :>> Surely this must be the last straw for any civil human being.
> :>> I urge all contributors to this NG to PLONK Deacon immediately.
>
> :> Done. A long time ago.
>
> : Me too, obviously. I wish that more people would follow suit. A newsgroup
> : where Deacon is invisible and ignored would be a huge improvement.
>
> Who is this "Deacon" person you people keep talking about?
>
> -----
> Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
> Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
> -----
> "an optimist is a guy/ that has never had/ much experience"
Perhaps it's the Deacon who claimed to have played chess games with
Paul Morphy.
http://www.chessarch.com/excavations/000H_pope/traitor.shtml
Note this sentence:
"And if a man goes by the name of Deacon, take care that he does not
commit a forgery upon you."
td
> Perhaps it's the Deacon who claimed to have played chess games with
> Paul Morphy.
>
> http://www.chessarch.com/excavations/000H_pope/traitor.shtml
>
> Note this sentence:
>
> "And if a man goes by the name of Deacon, take care that he does not
> commit a forgery upon you."
Advice from 1860.
Do you have any other prejudices you're peddling?
And by all means read Shakespeare's Merchant of Venice.
TD
Matthew B. Tepper
following letters to be typed in
> On Nov 1, 12:45 am, schu...@mail.biu.ack.il (Richard Schultz) wrote:
>> In article <Xns99DAB91C793F1quackandf...@216.168.3.70>, Matthew B.
>> Tepper <o...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> : "Frank Berger" <frank.d.ber...@dal.frb.org> appears to have caused
>> : the following letters to be typed
>> : innews:13ihn1h...@news.supernews.com:
>>
>> :>> Surely this must be the last straw for any civil human being.
>> :>> I urge all contributors to this NG to PLONK Deacon immediately.
>>
>> :> Done. A long time ago.
>>
>> : Me too, obviously. I wish that more people would follow suit. A
>> : newsgroup where Deacon is invisible and ignored would be a huge
>> : improvement.
>>
>> Who is this "Deacon" person you people keep talking about?
>
> Perhaps it's the Deacon who claimed to have played chess games with
> Paul Morphy.
>
> http://www.chessarch.com/excavations/000H_pope/traitor.shtml
>
> Note this sentence:
>
> "And if a man goes by the name of Deacon, take care that he does not
> commit a forgery upon you."
I wonder what Mark Taimanov says about him! Have you any connections who
might be able to find out? The results could be interesting.
td
> The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com> appears to have caused the
> following letters to be typed innews:1194003649....@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 1, 12:45 am, schu...@mail.biu.ack.il (Richard Schultz) wrote:
> >> In article <Xns99DAB91C793F1quackandf...@216.168.3.70>, Matthew B.
> >> Tepper <o...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> : "Frank Berger" <frank.d.ber...@dal.frb.org> appears to have caused
> >> : the following letters to be typed
> >> : innews:13ihn1h...@news.supernews.com:
>
> >> :>> Surely this must be the last straw for any civil human being.
> >> :>> I urge all contributors to this NG to PLONK Deacon immediately.
>
> >> :> Done. A long time ago.
>
> >> : Me too, obviously. I wish that more people would follow suit. A
> >> : newsgroup where Deacon is invisible and ignored would be a huge
> >> : improvement.
>
> >> Who is this "Deacon" person you people keep talking about?
>
> > Perhaps it's the Deacon who claimed to have played chess games with
> > Paul Morphy.
>
> >http://www.chessarch.com/excavations/000H_pope/traitor.shtml
>
> > Note this sentence:
>
> > "And if a man goes by the name of Deacon, take care that he does not
> > commit a forgery upon you."
>
> I wonder what Mark Taimanov says about him! Have you any connections who
> might be able to find out? The results could be interesting.
LOL!
Poor Tepper! He's so out of it.
Mark and I are friends and have been in relatively frequent
communication over the years.
But go ahead and try, Tepper, if it turns your crank. I have his
email. Not that I would give it to you, of course. The last thing he
needs is a dork like you cluttering up his in-box.
TD
Andrew Clarke
> On Nov 2, 4:17 am, Andrew Clarke <a...@cts.canberra.edu.au> wrote:
>
> > Why Mr Thomas Deacon prefers Norbert Kraft to Segovia is beyond me.
> > Perhaps he thinks the former is some kind of Canadian processed
> > cheese?
>
> Don't know a "Thomas Deacon".
>
> My name is Tom. Period.
>
> As for Mr. Kraft, he is not a cheese, but a fine guitarist. Married to
> Bonnie Silver last time I checked. She's a pianist. They both live in
> Toronto, Canada.
I actually do have a recording by Norbert Kraft and he certainly is a
fine guitarist. He and Bonnie Silver also do a fair bit of record
production for Naxos and they're pretty good at that, too.
Actually my comparison was an allusion to your comment re Naxos in
another thread: which I think was "Why buy Norbert Kraft when you can
buy Segovia?" Only I got it the wrong way round :-(
> Segovia? Well, he's dead, among other things.
And although there's no denying that the man was a genius, there's
still plenty of room for other players and other interpretations.
Times change, tastes change. That's why I prefer to hear the Aradia
Ensemble's Handel to Sir Thomas Beecham's. I'm thinking of the Water
Music and Fireworks Music, recorded in Toronto and produced by Norbert
Kraft and Bonnie Silver.
Regards,
Andrew Clarke
Canberra
Steven Bornfeld
I agree that Kraft is a fine guitarist. And as a guitar fan, I am very
grateful for the wonderful job he's doing producing the guitar series
for Naxos.
Segovia? Larger than life. He was loved, and hated. He created the
core repertoire, and was not only responsible for popularizing many
composers but continues to this day to influence what is considered core
repertoire--to the detriment of the many fine composers that have come
since (as well as those before and during his life that he chose not to
bless--such as Barrios).
Steve
ansermetniac
Guitar virtuoso and Design Engineer extraordinaire Mario Maccaferri
told me that he was better than Segovia
Abbedd
Bob Lombard
news:24ani3h7sna4a74s8...@4ax.com...
>
> Guitar virtuoso and Design Engineer extraordinaire Mario Maccaferri
> told me that he was better than Segovia
>
> Abbedd
At designing, ah, something?
bl
ansermetniac
No, at playing the Guitar. He also designed the cutaway the D-hole and
was inducted into the plastics hall of fame. In his 90s, he made a
plastic violin that was very good. In the 50s, after Arthur Godfrey
endorsed his plastic ukelele , on the air, he sold 9 million of them
Any classical Guitarist, who is schooled, knows the name Mario
Maccaferri.
Abbedd
td
> Any classical Guitarist, who is schooled, knows the name Mario
> Maccaferri.
On occasion it is a blessing from God to be ignorant of some things.
TD
Bob Lombard
"Any classical Guitarist, who is schooled, knows the name" Segovia.
If Deacon told you he was better than Segovia, would you believe him?
Personally, I am partial to the playing of Narciso Yepes. Segovia was not
concerned about noises caused by the fret hand, noises I find distracting.
bl
ansermetniac
<thorste...@vermontel.net> wrote:
>"ansermetniac" <anserm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:ijgni35rjnhjtsb91...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 20:28:30 -0400, "Bob Lombard"
>> <thorste...@vermontel.net> wrote:
>>
>>>"ansermetniac" <anserm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:24ani3h7sna4a74s8...@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> Guitar virtuoso and Design Engineer extraordinaire Mario Maccaferri
>>>> told me that he was better than Segovia
>>>>
>>>> Abbedd
>>>
>>>
>>>At designing, ah, something?
>>>
>>>bl
>>
>> No, at playing the Guitar. He also designed the cutaway the D-hole and
>> was inducted into the plastics hall of fame. In his 90s, he made a
>> plastic violin that was very good. In the 50s, after Arthur Godfrey
>> endorsed his plastic ukelele , on the air, he sold 9 million of them
>>
>> Any classical Guitarist, who is schooled, knows the name Mario
>> Maccaferri.
>>
>> Abbedd
>
>
>"Any classical Guitarist, who is schooled, knows the name" Segovia.
>
>If Deacon told you he was better than Segovia, would you believe him?
>
>Personally, I am partial to the playing of Narciso Yepes. Segovia was not
>concerned about noises caused by the fret hand, noises I find distracting.
>
>bl
I agree. It drives me crazy. It comes from the lower three strings.
The ones that are wound. Not the nylons ones. When I had an electric
guitar, I used flat wound strings. I have never seen flat wounds on an
acoustic.
Willie Nelson uses a classical guitar.
Larry Coryell recorded the Sacre and Sheherazade on a steel string
acoustic
Abbedd
Steven Bornfeld
>
> Guitar virtuoso and Design Engineer extraordinaire Mario Maccaferri
> told me that he was better than Segovia
>
> Abbedd
Well, there are a great number of guitarists today with more raw
technique than Segovia. But in a real sense, so many of today's
guitarists are like Segovia's children. Standing on the shoulders of
giants and all that.
Maccaferri must have been a fascinating man. Did you know him well?
Steve
Steven Bornfeld
He listened when that guy said "plastics!" to Dustin Hoffman in "The
Graduate".
He was associated with Selmer--I'm pretty sure they produced the
guitars played by Django Reinhardt, though I'm not sure Django's guitars
specifically were designed by Maccaferri.
Steve
Steven Bornfeld
To be fair, a lot of this depends on the recording, and on the strings.
But yes, Segovia did squeak. So did Bream, though I'm more than
willing to overlook it in Bream's case.
I think Yepes never really got his due. If you like Yepes and you
haven't checked out Goran Sollscher you should. Very elegant player on
an 11-string alto guitar.
Steve
Steve
ansermetniac
I knew him at the end of his life. He made my saxophone reeds, on the
same machines he designed and manufactured, in the 30s. They cut with
diamonds. Did I know him well? No. But the limited time I did know
him, he proved to be a very fascinating man. He said exactly what he
thought. He had 55 patents and never was sucessful in court
protecting them. He had over 50 injection molding machines, in the
50s. He could not get enough water, so he dug his own well, IN THE
BRONX. The longest strike in U.S. history was at his plastics factory,
17 years. It was right next to the police station off of Gun Hill Road
on Webster Avenue.
The wall of his office was filled with pictures of the clarinetists
and saxophonists who played his reeds. All the best players in the
World. He made a plastic reed in the late 40s. Before Rico got their
own equipment, in the 40s, he made their reeds
Abbedd
ansermetniac
<dentalt...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>though I'm not sure Django's guitars
>specifically were designed by Maccaferri.
yes they were!!!. He was chief engineer at Selmer in the 30s. He had
an argument with either Henri or Patrick, turned over the table and
walked out .
Abbedd
TareeDawg
>
> I agree that Kraft is a fine guitarist. And as a guitar fan, I am
> very grateful for the wonderful job he's doing producing the guitar
> series for Naxos.
> Segovia? Larger than life. He was loved, and hated. He created
> the core repertoire, and was not only responsible for popularizing many
> composers but continues to this day to influence what is considered core
> repertoire--to the detriment of the many fine composers that have come
> since (as well as those before and during his life that he chose not to
> bless--such as Barrios).
And in that respect, the Barrios volumes of which there are now three,
couldn't have had a finer start than with Antigoni Goni, who played on
Vol I, also produced and recorded by Silver and Kraft.
Perhaps the finest composer ever for guitar, maybe I should be
investigating the other Barrios volumes. Wish they had stuck with
Antigoni Goni, but the other two volumes have good reviews for the other
two guitarists used.
Ray (Dawg) Hall, Taree
TareeDawg
> "ansermetniac" <anserm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ijgni35rjnhjtsb91...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 20:28:30 -0400, "Bob Lombard"
>> <thorste...@vermontel.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "ansermetniac" <anserm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:24ani3h7sna4a74s8...@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> Guitar virtuoso and Design Engineer extraordinaire Mario Maccaferri
>>>> told me that he was better than Segovia
>>>>
>>>> Abbedd
>>>
>>>
>>> At designing, ah, something?
>>>
>>> bl
>>
>> No, at playing the Guitar. He also designed the cutaway the D-hole and
>> was inducted into the plastics hall of fame. In his 90s, he made a
>> plastic violin that was very good. In the 50s, after Arthur Godfrey
>> endorsed his plastic ukelele , on the air, he sold 9 million of them
>>
>> Any classical Guitarist, who is schooled, knows the name Mario
>> Maccaferri.
>>
>> Abbedd
>
>
> "Any classical Guitarist, who is schooled, knows the name" Segovia.
>
> If Deacon told you he was better than Segovia, would you believe him?
>
> Personally, I am partial to the playing of Narciso Yepes. Segovia was
> not concerned about noises caused by the fret hand, noises I find
> distracting.
Antigoni Goni is superb in that respect. Very little fret noise, and she
does some wonderful Barrios.
Ray (Dawg) Hall, Taree
Steven Bornfeld
>
> And in that respect, the Barrios volumes of which there are now three,
> couldn't have had a finer start than with Antigoni Goni, who played on
> Vol I, also produced and recorded by Silver and Kraft.
>
> Perhaps the finest composer ever for guitar, maybe I should be
> investigating the other Barrios volumes. Wish they had stuck with
> Antigoni Goni, but the other two volumes have good reviews for the other
> two guitarists used.
>
> Ray (Dawg) Hall, Taree
I have to look into them. The only recording I have of Goni is music
of John Duarte, and it is very fine.
There are recordings of Barrios playing his own music out there
somewhere--I'll have to save my pennies.
Steve
Steven Bornfeld
Thanks--I thought they must have been, but didn't know.
Steve
Bob Harper
she recorded for what labels)? Too bad Naxos didn't make more volumes
with her.
Bob Harper
TareeDawg
She has done three CDs for Naxos, one in the Laureate Series (a
compilation of works by Domeniconi, Rodrigo, Mompou, Barrios and
Brouwer), and as already mentioned in the thread, a disk of music by
John Duarte, and the Barrios disk.
All three demonstrate a really wonderful musician and guitarist.
She has a website,
http://www.antigonigoni.com/main.htm
And this shows she has academic appointments in NY and London, and is
commissioning stuff, as well as recitals, many of them within the US.
Ray (Dawg) Hall, Taree
ne...@thump.org
>HE's the only person in my fillfile !
KILLfile I mean! gawd my spelling gets worse by the week.
Wal
wrote:
> It has just been relayed to me that John Wilson, frequent contributer to the
> ng, expert on Toscanini and Bruno Walter and many other things, passed away
> overnight. John was a regular attendee of the annual Brucknerthons (I last
> saw him Sep 1), and was always a source of great stories and opinions. We
> are the poorer without him.
>
> --
> Curtis Croulet
> Temecula, California
> 33°27'59"N, 117°05'53"W
I first came into contact with John after he asked me to burn a copy
of a second hand CD I'd found. It was a Columbia recording of the LvB
9th conducted by Walter with the NYPO and apparently he needed the 4th
movement on this CD to help him complete Walter's NYPO LvB set. He
generously offered me any recordings from his collection for my
efforts but I was happy to just help him out. At that time I didn't
realise his involvement in M&As production of this cycle but am happy
to say that I now own a copy and if I was in anyway instrumental in
helping that set to be completed I'm quietly happy.
On a more sombre note, it is very sad to hear he has passed on.
RIP John
Gabriel Parra
girls who determine who will be part of your panty club and who will
be "shunned". The same type who like to click on those little star
thingies on Google groups to denote your tacit displeasure regarding
somebody's post, engaging in asinine popularity contests and forming
sophomoric alliances while doing better than engaging in blatant
groupthink. While Deacon may be a bit of an ass, there are far, far
worse offenders in this group. This ansermetniac asshole, for
instance, who gives all Jews a bad name with his zealotry and, worse,
his idiocy. It's because of fuckers like him that we have an Israeli-
Palestinian conflict to begin with. All settler types like him ought
to be shot and slaughtered for the sake of world peace, and I say that
as Jew and friend of Israel. Fuckers like him are the enemy of Israel
and of Jews, and it is fuckers like him who shot Rabin. As for
Deacon's "disrespect" regarding the death of someone he obviously did
not like, it beats the fuck out of me why death should make anyone
holy and beyond rebuke by the mere fact of achieving something we all
will eventually, regardless of how we acquitted ourselves in life. It
is not at all difficult to die. Any idiot can, and will, do it. Much
more difficult it is to live a life worthy of having something good
said about it. And this Wilson character, from everything I've heard
and read, strikes me as someone perfectly bland and forgettable. So
he's dead. Who gives a shit? Certainly not I.
Sacqueboutier
> While Deacon may be a bit of an ass, there are far, far
> worse offenders in this group.
Yes, there are...such as yourself.
PLONK
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Kindest regards,
Don
Mark & Steven Bornfeld
> Ray's right; she's wonderful. What happened to her (i.e., what else has
> she recorded for what labels)? Too bad Naxos didn't make more volumes
> with her.
>
> Bob Harper
I don't find her website too easy to navigate, but most of the
pertinent info is there:
http://www.antigonigoni.com/main.htm
Too bad I didn't see her live when she was living in NY.
Steve
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http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001
td
wrote:
> ansermetniac wrote:
>
> > Guitar virtuoso and Design Engineer extraordinaire Mario Maccaferri
> > told me that he was better than Segovia
>
> > Abbedd
>
> Well, there are a great number of guitarists today with more raw
> technique than Segovia. But in a real sense, so many of today's
> guitarists are like Segovia's children. Standing on the shoulders of
> giants and all that.
Correct.
Although I, too, find his finger noise very distracting. But in the
concert hall he was a magical presence.
TD
Mark & Steven Bornfeld
>
> Correct.
>
> Although I, too, find his finger noise very distracting. But in the
> concert hall he was a magical presence.
>
> TD
>
>
I only saw him once live--in the late '70s at Avery Fisher hall. Of
course he didn't tolerate any noise, and used no amplification. My
brother and I were in the cheap seats.
The McDonalds we'd grabbed before the recital must have bothered my
brother's stomach, and it started growling--so loudly it was clearly
audible above Segovia. He had to leave the hall for a few minutes.
He certainly did have presence. I wish I could have seen him in his prime.
O
<bornfe...@dentaltwins.com> wrote:
>
> I only saw him once live--in the late '70s at Avery Fisher hall. Of
> course he didn't tolerate any noise, and used no amplification. My
> brother and I were in the cheap seats.
> The McDonalds we'd grabbed before the recital must have bothered my
> brother's stomach, and it started growling--so loudly it was clearly
> audible above Segovia. He had to leave the hall for a few minutes.
> He certainly did have presence. I wish I could have seen him in his prime.
When you say he had presence, are you referring to Segovia or your
brother?
-Owen