The Best Recordings of Gilels
John Gavin
recording. It is indeed a great CD in every way. I also hold his
Rachmaninoff 3rd and Brahms 2nd with Reiner in high esteem.
I've heard some other Gilels which seemed a bit disapponting (e.g.
Beethoven op. 106).
What are Gilels' other recordings that would be highly recommended?
Scott Graham
Orfeo. There's a couple of live recitals on M&A, the Carnegie Hall
recital from 1965 (I think) is the better one, IMO.
He's pretty good in Scriabin too if you like that sort of thing.
There's a 2disc set on Bianco Nero with Scriabin and Medtner recordings
(his Medtner is excellent). I'm also fond of a Tchaikovshy 1st w/
Reiner and a live Tchaikovsky 1st w/ Mehta on CBS (oop?)
Scott Graham
Monterey CA
barry7665
here, but I absolutely love his Brahms' 1st concerto with
Jochum.
Barry
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Vadym
different labels.
Vadym
Hat NYC 62
Bach 5th French Suite. Magical.. .
Steve Emerson
>
> After reading the thread on Grieg's Lyrical Pieces, I bought the Gilels
> recording. It is indeed a great CD in every way. I also hold his
> Rachmaninoff 3rd and Brahms 2nd with Reiner in high esteem.
>
> I've heard some other Gilels which seemed a bit disapponting (e.g.
> Beethoven op. 106).
>
Prokofiev Piano Sonata #8.
Brahms Piano Quartet #1 w/ Amadeus.
I take it the Hammerklavier you heard was the DG? This disappointed me a
little too; a bit sedate. But he also recorded it much earlier, and
that's included in the low-priced Melodiya Gilels Edition set. Can
anyone comment?
Sedate is certainly not a problem with his DG Waldstein.
SE.
Waelse
double CD with a fantastic #2 on "DG originals", anyway...can't
go wrong
with this! The sound is also improved considerably on the" DG
originals" set compared with earlier issues!
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Steve Emerson
>
> jg...@webtv.net (John Gavin) writes:
>
> > After reading the thread on Grieg's Lyrical Pieces, I bought the Gilels
> > recording. It is indeed a great CD in every way. I also hold his
> > Rachmaninoff 3rd and Brahms 2nd with Reiner in high esteem.
> >
> > I've heard some other Gilels which seemed a bit disapponting (e.g.
> > Beethoven op. 106).
> >
> > What are Gilels' other recordings that would be highly recommended?
>
On DG or Melodiya?
SE.
Francois Charton
John Gavin wrote:
>
> What are Gilels' other recordings that would be highly recommended?
>
If you don't mind old records and cedar reconstruction... E. Gilels, the
early recording, by Grammofono is a great buy.
Francois
JRsnfld
Appasionata on the same label. He was also great with the Sonata #16. Gilels
also did some good Shostakovich for RCA.
His Brahms #2 with Reiner is one of my favorite recordings. The Mozart Concerto
for 2 pianos with Elena Gilels was one of the first CDs I bought and I still
love it.
--Jeff
Sol L. Siegel
Nachtstucke from the '60s. There have been a couple of CD reissues
of these, on Vox and Mobile Fidelity.
His fine Shostakovich 2nd Sonata was recently reissued by RCA as
a filler for the 15th Symphony with Ormandy- a super disc.
-Sol Siegel, Philadelphia, PA
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Brian Cantin
> After reading the thread on Grieg's Lyrical Pieces, I bought the Gilels
> recording. It is indeed a great CD in every way. I also hold his
> Rachmaninoff 3rd and Brahms 2nd with Reiner in high esteem.
>
> I've heard some other Gilels which seemed a bit disapponting (e.g.
> Beethoven op. 106).
>
> What are Gilels' other recordings that would be highly recommended?
Hm, I love the Beethoven op. 106. On the other hand, I am bored by
the Gilels/Reiner Brahms 2nd.
--
Brian Cantin
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JRsnfld
Gilels-Kogan-Rostropovich recording of the Archduke Trio of Beethoven, and the
solo piano disc coupling Schumann's Nachtstucke with Schubert Moments Musicaux.
--Jeff
Bob Taffelsen
> Gilels-Kogan-Rostropovich recording of the Archduke Trio of Beethoven, and the
> solo piano disc coupling Schumann's Nachtstucke with Schubert Moments Musicaux.
I don't much care for his Schubert, but the Nachstucke is absolutely the
best performance of this piece I've ever heard. Magical is the right
word for it. Gilels cannot be pinned down easily. From dead boring to
magical...
Cheers,
BobT
Margaret Mikulska
For me, Brahms 2nd with Reiner is just out of this world. Was is ever
issued for the second time on CDs? The CD transfer on RCA Red Seal was
FUBAR - one of the worst CD transfers ever. I know the recording from a
Melodiya LP, so I could tell how RCA massacred the CD, and I would
really like to get a listenable transfer.
One of my favorite Gilels recording is Prokofiev 3rd. Unfortunately, I
don't know if it's available on CD. (It was of course a Melodiya LP.)
I second the recommendation for Liszt's Sonata and Mozart's Piano
Concerto K. 365.
-Margaret
Simon Roberts
: For me, Brahms 2nd with Reiner is just out of this world. Was is ever
: issued for the second time on CDs?
Yes; currently chez Berkshire for c. $4 (RCA Silver Seal).
Simon
Hat NYC 62
a filler for the 15th Symphony with Ormandy- a super disc. >>
Shostakovich was originally the flip side of the Back 5th French Suite. Both
great performances
Andy Evans
> don't know if it's available on CD. (It was of course a Melodiya LP.)
> I second the recommendation for Liszt's Sonata and Mozart's Piano
> Concerto K. 365.
had the 2nd sonata on the back - worth listening to but Richter is better
here. The Liszt live performance is edge-of-the-seat stuff. Gilels could be
very splashy sometimes - as in 3 dances from Petrushka - and he just holds
the Liszt together technically. Emotionally it's red-hot!
C. N. Chew
>
> After reading the thread on Grieg's Lyrical Pieces, I bought the Gilels
>
> What are Gilels' other recordings that would be highly recommended?
I can't imagine the short Brahms pieces, opp. 10 and 116, being done any
better. As in the Grieg, Gilels brings out incredibly subtle nuances in
the music with perfectly balanced phrasing and tone. Op. 10 is currently
coupled with the op. 25 piano quartet with the Amadeus and op. 116 with
the piano concertos under Jochum.
Naun.
Baldric
like best
LvB Cto #4 w Ludig/Phil
Nachtstuck - Schumann
LvB Variations for piano incl 32 in C minor
Rach #3 with Cluytens (on Testament)
Saint-Saens #2 (also on Testament)
Mozart Cto #27 and Cto for two pianos K365
Schubert Moments Musicale
Baldric
JRsnfld
has already been mentioned, but I can't remember anyone remarking on how fine
Gilels' Prokofiev Sonata #3, Vainberg and Scriabin Sonatas #4 are; all share on
this MK disc with a marvelous Medtner Op 38 No. 1. Mostly live performances
from Moscow in 1957.
--Jeff
g-man
era is better. Gilels starts out very well, but gets abrasive in the louder
passages. He is so uneven at times. Some passages sing with great beauty
but in others he bangs. Some of this is not his falt because of the
remastering. In one section I think he got pissed off because there was a
telephone ringing in the background, and he starts playing louder as if he
were trying to drown out the ringing! he hee!!!
He also bangs in Stravinsky Petrushka, but I dislike this crass work anyway,
so I shouldn't comment here. Gilels is brilliant in the Prokofiev Sonata
#8.
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but in others he bangs.<
It is true that Gilels' sound could take on a steely edge to it, at least on
record, but what I find most compelling about his playing is his unmannered and
elegant control of time--his rhythmic sense seems beyond reproach to me. He is
not as enamored as Richter is of the range of color that piano produces; his
strength comes from his ability to make the music flow forward. I think this is
evident not only in the Medtner but in the Petrushka and Scriabin, where, cast
against type, Gilels makes a compelling statement.
--Jeff
Don Petter
jrs...@aol.com (JRsnfld) wrote:
> Alas in my previous post on Gilels I forgot a couple
> of treasures: the
> Gilels-Kogan-Rostropovich recording of the Archduke
> Trio of Beethoven, and the
> solo piano disc coupling Schumann's Nachtstucke with
> Schubert Moments Musicaux.
Also Schumann's Etude Symphoniques on Ermitage 163-2.
(Probably now on Aura?)
Don Petter.
Robert Newman
jg...@webtv.net (John Gavin) wrote:
> After reading the thread on Grieg's Lyrical Pieces, I bought the
Gilels
> Rachmaninoff 3rd and Brahms 2nd with Reiner in high esteem.
>
> I've heard some other Gilels which seemed a bit disapponting (e.g.
> Beethoven op. 106).
>
>
>
I like Gilels I and Gilels II from the Philips Great Pianists
series. They include several performances mentioned by others
e.g. Mozart concerto 27, Beethoven concerto 4, Bach suite,
Prokofiev sonatas 3 and 8. Some of the earlier Russian recordings
(e.g. Liszt) are mono and slightly clangy but they do show another
side to Gilels' playing. I also like his Waldstein sonata (DG).
RCA are about to release a 2cd set called 'Gilels the Giant' or
something like that. Does anyone know what's on it?
Robert
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Kevin
Ormandy) to be one of his best.
In article <17781-3900C54B-10@storefull-
214.iap.bryant.webtv.net>, jg...@webtv.net (John Gavin)
wrote:
> After reading the thread on Grieg's Lyrical Pieces, I
> bought the Gilels
> recording. It is indeed a great CD in every way. I
> also hold his
> Rachmaninoff 3rd and Brahms 2nd with Reiner in high
> esteem.
> I've heard some other Gilels which seemed a bit
> disapponting (e.g.
> Beethoven op. 106).
> What are Gilels' other recordings that would be highly
> recommended?
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samir ghiocel golescu
> I find his recording of Chopin's 1st Piano Concerto (with
> Ormandy) to be one of his best.
Yes, that is wonderful and the live one with Kondrashin is even better.
Gilels obviously learned (in the best meaning) that piece from Heinrich
Neuhaus, one of its greatest interpreters.
regards,
SG
Steve Emerson
Has either of you heard Gilels's Chopin 3rd Sonata?
SE.
Simon Roberts
Don't know about them, but I have; wonderful -- somehow the slow tempo he
takes in i works awfully well, as it did in a live broadcast I heard
around the same time it was recorded.
Simon
Steve Emerson
> Steve Emerson (seme...@dnai.com) wrote:
> : Has either of you heard Gilels's Chopin 3rd Sonata?
>
> Don't know about them, but I have; wonderful -- somehow the slow tempo he
> takes in i works awfully well, as it did in a live broadcast I heard
> around the same time it was recorded.
Thanks for this. Sounds very promising. Does he pursue the last movement
with enough vigor? (I take it this is fairly late; about when?)
Presume you've heard Freire's? I picked it up about a month ago and
think it's tremendous. Interpretively nothing particularly different,
but he avoids the many pitfalls (something I've never heard anyone else
do) -- and the whole effort comes off really well.
SE.
Simon Roberts
: Thanks for this. Sounds very promising. Does he pursue the last movement
: with enough vigor?
Yes; it's slowish (5:32), but thanks to the crispness of his articulation
it neither seems slow or lacking in vigor; I doubt if any other
performance rivals this for clarity. What it does lack -- the entire
performance -- is anything resembling passionate, spontaneous romantic
sweep, but since you doubtless have other performances that provide those
qualities to some degree, you may find it sufficiently interesting on its
own terms. I don't mean to suggest that the performance is square or
unpoetic -- the lyrical theme in i is superbly done.
Here's Bryce Morrison's reaction, stated in Gramophone:
"It is deeply gratifying to have Emil Gilels’s transcendental performance
of Chopin’s B minor Sonata returned to the catalogue. Recorded in 1978
(and still sounding superb) this seems light years away from his early and
engulfing brilliance, with all temptation towards an intemperate glamour
and virtuosity resisted at every point. The second subject is heart-easing
indeed and at 2'41" Gilels sets melody and counter-melody softly chiming
against each other to create a magical web of sound. Such inwardness and
imperial mastery extend to the rest of the work – the Largo of the most
richly sustained eloquence and the equestrian finale of a towering
magnificence."
I could do without the nonsense about "intemperate glamour and virtuosity"
being "resisted," and I don't think I would say it's "transcendental" (if
by that he means "better than any other"; if that's not what he means, I'm
quite lost) but otherwise this seems fair enough. I'm not so sure about
Gramophone's review of the Great Pianists reissue, which says that it
sounds like how Chopin might have thought about the music had he lived
long enough to look back on it from his old age. Penguin says it's
"thoughtful" and "ruminative" which I think is misleading.
:(I take it this is fairly late; about when?)
September 1978. If you're considering the Great Pianists release, and
already have or don't care about the fillers, you might like to know that
it's also been on CD as a single DG mid-price issue a couple of times,
once coupled with polonaises played by him and Berman (recorded around the
same time), once with polonaises played just by him, if memory serves;
I've recently seen one or the other in the local Tower as an import for
c. $15.
: Presume you've heard Freire's? I picked it up about a month ago and
: think it's tremendous. Interpretively nothing particularly different,
: but he avoids the many pitfalls (something I've never heard anyone else
: do) -- and the whole effort comes off really well.
Yes, I do have it; most impressive -- though I don't know how I think it
stacks up; I've never done a serious comparison of the various recordings
I have of this piece side-by-side.
Simon
Steve Emerson
> Yes; it's [Chopin Sonata 3, movement 4] slowish (5:32), but thanks to the crispness of his articulation
> it neither seems slow or lacking in vigor; I doubt if any other
> performance rivals this for clarity. What it does lack -- the entire
> performance -- is anything resembling passionate, spontaneous romantic
> sweep, but since you doubtless have other performances that provide those
> qualities to some degree, you may find it sufficiently interesting on its
> own terms. I don't mean to suggest that the performance is square or
> unpoetic -- the lyrical theme in i is superbly done.
>
> Here's Bryce Morrison's reaction, stated in Gramophone:
> I could do without the nonsense about "intemperate glamour and virtuosity"
> being "resisted," and I don't think I would say it's "transcendental" (if
> by that he means "better than any other"; if that's not what he means, I'm
> quite lost) but otherwise this seems fair enough. I'm not so sure about
> Gramophone's review of the Great Pianists reissue, which says that it
> sounds like how Chopin might have thought about the music had he lived
> long enough to look back on it from his old age. Penguin says it's
> "thoughtful" and "ruminative" which I think is misleading.
>:(I take it this is fairly late; about when?)
>
> September 1978. If you're considering the Great Pianists release, and
> already have or don't care about the fillers, you might like to know that
> it's also been on CD as a single DG mid-price issue a couple of times,
> once coupled with polonaises played by him and Berman (recorded around the
> same time), once with polonaises played just by him, if memory serves;
> I've recently seen one or the other in the local Tower as an import for
> c. $15.
Thanks for this quite-valuable information. Yeah, "transcendental" seems
a bit much; transcendent would have been plenty. Anyway it all sounds
intriguing and I'll look forward to hearing soon.
SE.
Andy Evans
minor I totally like. I'd currently go for Hoffman in 1 (WHY did he only
record one movement - this is superb), Rosenthal in 2 (very stylish),
Casadesus in 3 (very restful and sensitive), Perahia in 4 (nice pearly
runs). The Bb seems to be played almost equally well be everybody, the B
min by virtually none.
Simon Roberts <si...@dept.english.upenn.edu> wrote in message
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> Steve Emerson (seme...@dnai.com) wrote:
>
> : Thanks for this. Sounds very promising. Does he pursue the last movement
> : with enough vigor?
>
> Yes; it's slowish (5:32), but thanks to the crispness of his articulation
> it neither seems slow or lacking in vigor; I doubt if any other
> performance rivals this for clarity. What it does lack -- the entire
> performance -- is anything resembling passionate, spontaneous romantic
> sweep, but since you doubtless have other performances that provide those
> qualities to some degree, you may find it sufficiently interesting on its
> own terms. I don't mean to suggest that the performance is square or
> unpoetic -- the lyrical theme in i is superbly done.
>
> Here's Bryce Morrison's reaction, stated in Gramophone:
>
> "It is deeply gratifying to have Emil Gilelss transcendental performance
> of Chopin s B minor Sonata returned to the catalogue. Recorded in 1978
> (and still sounding superb) this seems light years away from his early and
> engulfing brilliance, with all temptation towards an intemperate glamour
> and virtuosity resisted at every point. The second subject is heart-easing
> indeed and at 2'41" Gilels sets melody and counter-melody softly chiming
> against each other to create a magical web of sound. Such inwardness and
> imperial mastery extend to the rest of the work the Largo of the most
> richly sustained eloquence and the equestrian finale of a towering
> magnificence."
>
> I could do without the nonsense about "intemperate glamour and virtuosity"
> being "resisted," and I don't think I would say it's "transcendental" (if
> by that he means "better than any other"; if that's not what he means, I'm
> quite lost) but otherwise this seems fair enough. I'm not so sure about
> Gramophone's review of the Great Pianists reissue, which says that it
> sounds like how Chopin might have thought about the music had he lived
> long enough to look back on it from his old age. Penguin says it's
> "thoughtful" and "ruminative" which I think is misleading.
>
> :(I take it this is fairly late; about when?)
>
> September 1978. If you're considering the Great Pianists release, and
> already have or don't care about the fillers, you might like to know that
> it's also been on CD as a single DG mid-price issue a couple of times,
> once coupled with polonaises played by him and Berman (recorded around the
> same time), once with polonaises played just by him, if memory serves;
> I've recently seen one or the other in the local Tower as an import for
> c. $15.
>
JRsnfld
on EMI much earlier?
--Jeff
Dimitri Dover
in 1978.
Dimitri
Dimitri Dover
>
> Are you talking about Gilels' Chopin sonata on DG, or wasn't there one released
> on EMI much earlier?
>
I believe that was the 2nd sonata, not the 3rd. (I have it on a Seraphim
LP with some Shostakovich P&Fs)
Dimitri
Robert Newman
Robert Newman <robert_bou...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> RCA are about to release a 2cd set called 'Gilels the Giant' or
> something like that. Does anyone know what's on it?
>
And answering my own question:
Mozart: Fantasia K397, Sonata K310
Beethoven: Sonata nos 8,14, Variations WoO 80
Schubert: Moments Musicaux
Schumann: Arabeske
Liszt: Rhapsodie Espagnole
Ravel: Jeux D'Eau, Pavane
Scriabin: Sonata no. 3
I think all of these recordings are from the previously issued
5cd Gilels Edition or the Russian Piano School volume.
anatoly...@gmail.com
On Tuesday, April 25, 2000 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Kevin wrote:
> I find his recording of Chopin's 1st Piano Concerto (with
> Ormandy) to be one of his best.
>
>
gggg gggg
> After reading the thread on Grieg's Lyrical Pieces, I bought the Gilels
> recording. It is indeed a great CD in every way. I also hold his
> Rachmaninoff 3rd and Brahms 2nd with Reiner in high esteem.
> I've heard some other Gilels which seemed a bit disapponting (e.g.
> Beethoven op. 106).
> What are Gilels' other recordings that would be highly recommended?
"Gilels Recital in Moscow, 26.I.1967 (Beethoven, Schumann, Prokofiev)"