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Kepler
Jun 4, 2013, 10:17:34 PM6/4/13
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Just saw this on the HMV website.
http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Classical-Collection-Boxed-Set_000000000088040/item_Willem-Mengelberg-The-Concertgebouw-Recordings-15CD_5434940
The contents, courtesy of google (near-) translate, are:
HMV Review
Mengelberg / Concertgebouw Recordings (15CD)
Owner of a unique style of acting in particular, Willem Mengelberg [1871-1951] is especially well known in the activities of the Concertgebouw Orchestra Among the masters of yesteryear.
This time, This is a collection of sound that was popular was released from PHILIPS once, German Requiem St. Matthew Passion and Beethoven symphonies, the famous Brahms, set to appear from Italy Universal, Symphony No. 4 Mahler, It has the composition of bra and one other Great, and unfinished D minor symphony of Frank, of Schubert.
As good condition as live recordings during and before the war, sound source of these, you can enjoy the full fun of the expression of Mengelberg only.
In clamshell box specification, booklet will be Italian and English are also shown. (HMV)
[Collecting information]
Disc1-3
· J.S. Bach: St. Matthew Passion BWV.244
Karl Erb (tenor: Evangelist)
Willem Ravu~eri (bus: Jesus)
Joe Vincent (soprano)
Ilona Do~urigo (alto)
Louis van To~uruda (tenor)
Hermann Shy (bus)
Tsu~angurusuto Boys Choir
Amsterdam Tonkunsuto choir
April 2 1939: recording time
Disc4
Bartok: No.2 Op.112 Violin Concerto
Zolan-Szekely (violin)
March 23 1939: recording time
Disc5
Beethoven: No. 1 in C major, Op.21 Symphony
April 14 1940: recording time
Beethoven: No. 2 in D major, Op.36 Symphony
April 21 1940: recording time
Disc6
Beethoven: No. 3 in E flat major Op.55 Symphony "hero"
November 11, 1940: recording time
Disc7
Beethoven: No. 4 in B flat major, Op.60 Symphony
April 25 1940: recording time
Beethoven: No. 5 in C minor, Op.67 Symphony "fate"
April 18 1940: recording time
Disc8
Beethoven: No. 6 in F major, Op.68 Symphony "Pastoral"
April 21 1940: recording time
Beethoven: opera "Fidelio" Overture
April 28 1940: recording time
Disc9
Beethoven: No. 7 in A major, Op.92 Symphony
April 25 1940: recording time
Beethoven: major Op.93 to Symphony No. 8
April 18 1940: recording time
Disc10
Beethoven: Symphony No. 9 in D minor Op.125 "Choral"
Toe van der Sourrouille (soprano)
Souzey-Ruheru (alto)
Louis van To~uruda (tenor)
Willem Ravu~erri (bus)
Amsterdam Tonkunsuto choir
Royal Netherlands Society Oratorio Choir
Recording time: 2 May 1940
Disc11
Brahms: German Requiem, Op.45
Joe Vincent (soprano)
Max Claus (baritone)
Amsterdam Tonkunsuto choir
November 7, 1940: recording time
Disc12
Brahms: No. 1 in C minor, Op.68 Symphony
October 13, 1940: recording time
Schubert: (No. 2 Overture / Intermezzo No. 3 / ballet music) play music from "Rosamunde"
December 19, 1940: recording time
Disc13
Frank: D minor Symphony
October 3 1940: recording time
· R. Strauss: Symphonic poem "Don Juan" Op.20
December 12, 1940: recording time
Disc14
Mahler: No. 4 in G major Symphony
Joe Vincent (soprano)
November 19, 1939: recording time
Disc15
Schubert: No. 8 in B minor, D.759 Symphony "Unfinished"
November 27, 1939: recording time
Schubert: Symphony No. 9 in C major, D.944 "Great"
December 19, 1940: recording time
Amsterdam Concertgebouw Orchestra
Willem Mengelberg (conductor)
-- Kepler
http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Classical-Collection-Boxed-Set_000000000088040/item_Willem-Mengelberg-The-Concertgebouw-Recordings-15CD_5434940
The contents, courtesy of google (near-) translate, are:
HMV Review
Mengelberg / Concertgebouw Recordings (15CD)
Owner of a unique style of acting in particular, Willem Mengelberg [1871-1951] is especially well known in the activities of the Concertgebouw Orchestra Among the masters of yesteryear.
This time, This is a collection of sound that was popular was released from PHILIPS once, German Requiem St. Matthew Passion and Beethoven symphonies, the famous Brahms, set to appear from Italy Universal, Symphony No. 4 Mahler, It has the composition of bra and one other Great, and unfinished D minor symphony of Frank, of Schubert.
As good condition as live recordings during and before the war, sound source of these, you can enjoy the full fun of the expression of Mengelberg only.
In clamshell box specification, booklet will be Italian and English are also shown. (HMV)
[Collecting information]
Disc1-3
· J.S. Bach: St. Matthew Passion BWV.244
Karl Erb (tenor: Evangelist)
Willem Ravu~eri (bus: Jesus)
Joe Vincent (soprano)
Ilona Do~urigo (alto)
Louis van To~uruda (tenor)
Hermann Shy (bus)
Tsu~angurusuto Boys Choir
Amsterdam Tonkunsuto choir
April 2 1939: recording time
Disc4
Bartok: No.2 Op.112 Violin Concerto
Zolan-Szekely (violin)
March 23 1939: recording time
Disc5
Beethoven: No. 1 in C major, Op.21 Symphony
April 14 1940: recording time
Beethoven: No. 2 in D major, Op.36 Symphony
April 21 1940: recording time
Disc6
Beethoven: No. 3 in E flat major Op.55 Symphony "hero"
November 11, 1940: recording time
Disc7
Beethoven: No. 4 in B flat major, Op.60 Symphony
April 25 1940: recording time
Beethoven: No. 5 in C minor, Op.67 Symphony "fate"
April 18 1940: recording time
Disc8
Beethoven: No. 6 in F major, Op.68 Symphony "Pastoral"
April 21 1940: recording time
Beethoven: opera "Fidelio" Overture
April 28 1940: recording time
Disc9
Beethoven: No. 7 in A major, Op.92 Symphony
April 25 1940: recording time
Beethoven: major Op.93 to Symphony No. 8
April 18 1940: recording time
Disc10
Beethoven: Symphony No. 9 in D minor Op.125 "Choral"
Toe van der Sourrouille (soprano)
Souzey-Ruheru (alto)
Louis van To~uruda (tenor)
Willem Ravu~erri (bus)
Amsterdam Tonkunsuto choir
Royal Netherlands Society Oratorio Choir
Recording time: 2 May 1940
Disc11
Brahms: German Requiem, Op.45
Joe Vincent (soprano)
Max Claus (baritone)
Amsterdam Tonkunsuto choir
November 7, 1940: recording time
Disc12
Brahms: No. 1 in C minor, Op.68 Symphony
October 13, 1940: recording time
Schubert: (No. 2 Overture / Intermezzo No. 3 / ballet music) play music from "Rosamunde"
December 19, 1940: recording time
Disc13
Frank: D minor Symphony
October 3 1940: recording time
· R. Strauss: Symphonic poem "Don Juan" Op.20
December 12, 1940: recording time
Disc14
Mahler: No. 4 in G major Symphony
Joe Vincent (soprano)
November 19, 1939: recording time
Disc15
Schubert: No. 8 in B minor, D.759 Symphony "Unfinished"
November 27, 1939: recording time
Schubert: Symphony No. 9 in C major, D.944 "Great"
December 19, 1940: recording time
Amsterdam Concertgebouw Orchestra
Willem Mengelberg (conductor)
-- Kepler
Kepler
Jun 4, 2013, 10:18:33 PM6/4/13
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I am especially fond of 'Joe Vincent' in the last movement of the Mahler 4th.
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Jay Kauffman
Jun 5, 2013, 5:16:37 AM6/5/13
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On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 3:41:59 AM UTC-4, Terry wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:18:33 +1000, Kepler wrote
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> (in article <d86c0487-54c9-4c62...@googlegroups.com>):
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> Cheers!
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> Terry
Wasn't he being sarcastic??? I thought everyone knew it was Jo Vincent. Wagner fan
> On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:18:33 +1000, Kepler wrote
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> (in article <d86c0487-54c9-4c62...@googlegroups.com>):
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> > I am especially fond of 'Joe Vincent' in the last movement of the Mahler 4th.
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> Surely not "Joe"!
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> > I am especially fond of 'Joe Vincent' in the last movement of the Mahler 4th.
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> Cheers!
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> Terry
Wasn't he being sarcastic??? I thought everyone knew it was Jo Vincent. Wagner fan
Roland van Gaalen
Jun 5, 2013, 10:13:32 AM6/5/13
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On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 4:18:33 AM UTC+2, Kepler wrote:
> I am especially fond of 'Joe Vincent' in the last movement of the Mahler 4th.
To each his own!
> I am especially fond of 'Joe Vincent' in the last movement of the Mahler 4th.
Jo Vincent was dreadful, in my opinion.
To van der Sluys (also rather old-fashioned sounding) would have been much better.
Roland van Gaalen
Cape Town
Matthew B. Tepper
Jun 6, 2013, 12:14:33 AM6/6/13
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Roland van Gaalen <rolandv...@gmail.com> appears to have caused the
following letters to be typed in
news:fd3acf93-7b23-419a...@googlegroups.com:
> On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 4:18:33 AM UTC+2, Kepler wrote:
>
>> I am especially fond of 'Joe Vincent' in the last movement of the Mahler
>> 4th.
>
> To each his own!
>
> Jo Vincent was dreadful, in my opinion.
I have never liked her in this performance. She is somewhat easier to endure
in the Klemperer/Concertgebouw "Resurrection."
> To van der Sluys (also rather old-fashioned sounding) would have been
> much better.
Did she record it with anyone?
--
Matthew B. Tepper: WWW, science fiction, classical music, ducks!!
Read about "Proty" here: http://home.earthlink.net/~oy/proty.html
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Opinions expressed here are not necessarily those of my employers.
following letters to be typed in
news:fd3acf93-7b23-419a...@googlegroups.com:
> On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 4:18:33 AM UTC+2, Kepler wrote:
>
>> I am especially fond of 'Joe Vincent' in the last movement of the Mahler
>> 4th.
>
> To each his own!
>
> Jo Vincent was dreadful, in my opinion.
in the Klemperer/Concertgebouw "Resurrection."
> To van der Sluys (also rather old-fashioned sounding) would have been
> much better.
--
Matthew B. Tepper: WWW, science fiction, classical music, ducks!!
Read about "Proty" here: http://home.earthlink.net/~oy/proty.html
To write to me, do for my address what Androcles did for the lion
Opinions expressed here are not necessarily those of my employers.
Roland van Gaalen
Jun 6, 2013, 4:27:20 PM6/6/13
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On Thursday, June 6, 2013 6:14:33 AM UTC+2, Matthew B. Tepper wrote:
> Roland van Gaalen <....> appears to have caused the
My belief that she would have been much better than Jo Vincent is based on my dislike of the latter and also based on the former's very nice singing in the recording of Bach cantata #202. Rather different music, of course.
--
> Roland van Gaalen <....> appears to have caused the
> following letters to be typed in
> news:fd3acf93-7b23-419a...@googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 4:18:33 AM UTC+2, Kepler wrote:
>
> >> I am especially fond of 'Joe Vincent' in the last movement of the Mahler
> >> 4th.
>
> > To each his own!
>
> > Jo Vincent was dreadful, in my opinion.
>
> I have never liked her in this performance. She is somewhat easier to endure
> in the Klemperer/Concertgebouw "Resurrection."
>
> > To van der Sluys (also rather old-fashioned sounding) would have been
> > much better.
>
> Did she record it with anyone?
No. She was the soloist in at least two performances of Mahler 4 with Mengelberg (in May 1938 and June 1939), though.
> news:fd3acf93-7b23-419a...@googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 4:18:33 AM UTC+2, Kepler wrote:
>
> >> I am especially fond of 'Joe Vincent' in the last movement of the Mahler
> >> 4th.
>
> > To each his own!
>
> > Jo Vincent was dreadful, in my opinion.
>
> I have never liked her in this performance. She is somewhat easier to endure
> in the Klemperer/Concertgebouw "Resurrection."
>
> > To van der Sluys (also rather old-fashioned sounding) would have been
> > much better.
>
> Did she record it with anyone?
My belief that she would have been much better than Jo Vincent is based on my dislike of the latter and also based on the former's very nice singing in the recording of Bach cantata #202. Rather different music, of course.
--
RG
Jun 14, 2013, 8:17:25 PM6/14/13
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In article <b785d9ec-47cf-4401...@googlegroups.com>,
jfli...@yahoo.com says...
I liked the Schubert's 9th where he taps the music stand a couple of
times at the beginning. Is that the one in this set?
jfli...@yahoo.com says...
times at the beginning. Is that the one in this set?
Bob Harper
Jun 15, 2013, 2:08:42 AM6/15/13
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On 6/14/13 5:17 PM, RG wrote:
(snip)
of the Mahler 4 and elsewhere.
Bob Harper
(snip)
> I liked the Schubert's 9th where he taps the music stand a couple of
> times at the beginning. Is that the one in this set?
That was apparently a 'tic' of his; IIRC it also occurs at the beginning
> times at the beginning. Is that the one in this set?
of the Mahler 4 and elsewhere.
Bob Harper
RiRiIII
Jun 17, 2013, 4:56:22 AM6/17/13
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