Best Franck Violin Sonata recording?
Sam Ghods
but it seems a little plain (probably because it's been remastered so many
times). Who does a pretty good interpretation?
-Sam
Todd Kay
>I'm probably going to buy another one; I have Graumiaux, who I really like,
>but it seems a little plain (probably because it's been remastered so many
>times).
Plain in the sound or plain in the intepretation? You might try
Heifetz/Rubinstein if it's the latter -- theirs is rather spicier -- but it's a
recording from the thirties, so if you have audiophile considerations, it
probably will be even less to your liking.
J. Teske
Chung/Lupu has stood the test of time. A very warm performance. I have
always been fond of Stern/Zakin although it is nearly 40 years old.
Jon Teske, violinist
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Cortot/Thibaud
Richter/Oistrakh
Chung/Lupu
Chee-Yun/Eguchi
A. Brain
the work in a live performance by Chung, circa 1977. But the recording,
from around that time, is very well regarded.
I also have the work done by Perlman/Argerich, and Shaham/Oppitz.
And I have the Oistrakh/Richter on LP somewhere around here...
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Try Radu Lupu and Kyung-Wha Chung on Decca.
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S. Muraki
1.- From 1950 to present:
David Oistrakh and Svjatoslav Richter (Dec 15th, 1968 Live at Moscow
Conservatoire)
(CBS-Melodiya) it´s coupled with Brahms 3rd sonata.
2.- Before 1950:
Jacques Thibaud and Alfred Cortot (EMI)
(Specially the ending of the second movement)
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(DG/Galleria-series) you would certainly put it at the top of your list.
It's so damn good.
JH
Frank Geck
A fine young player (pupil of Tibor Varga).
Comes on a budget cd with saint-saens & debussy.
Good sound.
Frank
Paul Goldstein
> I'm probably going to buy another one; I have Graumiaux, who I really like,
> but it seems a little plain (probably because it's been remastered so many
> times). Who does a pretty good interpretation?
I like Perlman/Ashkenazy, Danczowska (sp?)/Zimerman, and (for something different) Galway/Argerich.
Sol L. Siegel
>Who does a pretty good interpretation?
>
I lean towards the ancient Thibaud/Cortot these days. I still like
Heifetz/Rubinstein, but it seems to come up a little strident in the
new RCA remastering. Richter/Oistrakh overdo it a bit for my taste.
A surprise winner: Kamei/Okashiro on Pro Piano, coupled with
Walton's sonata.
-Sol Siegel, Philadelphia, PA
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Matthew B. Tepper
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How many times has Argerich recorded it, and with partners playing
instruments other than violin? I think there was a cello version with
Mischa Maisky, and I have an obscure Italian LP in which she partners
Salvatore Accardo (who plays, gasp, a violin). Then there's Perlman.
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>(for something
>>different) Galway/Argerich.
>
>How many times has Argerich recorded it, and with partners playing
>instruments other than violin? I think there was a cello version with
>Mischa Maisky, and I have an obscure Italian LP in which she partners
>Salvatore Accardo (who plays, gasp, a violin). Then there's Perlman.
There's also Ricci (Etcetera) and Gitlis (Ricordi LP; also Toshiba-EMI CD, same
performance or not?)
Norm Strong
>I'm probably going to buy another one; I have Graumiaux, who I really like,
>but it seems a little plain (probably because it's been remastered so many
>times). Who does a pretty good interpretation?
People tend to prefer the rendition they were listening to when they first fell
in love with a piece of music. In my case it was the Francescatti/Casadesus.
Norm Strong (nh...@aol.com)
Seattle WA
Grant
> Richter/Oistrakh
Yes, this one.
Grant
Don Petter
<saot...@telcel.net.ve> wrote:
>I have two choices:
>1.- From 1950 to present:
> David Oistrakh and Svjatoslav Richter (Dec 15th, 1968 Live at Moscow
>Conservatoire)
> (CBS-Melodiya) itæ„€ coupled with Brahms 3rd sonata.
>>
>
>
I second 1 (if you see what I mean).
I presume it is the same performance that I have on on Erato LDC
278885 in their earlier Oistrakh series (as was also on an HMV
'Melodiya' LP).
Don.
daniel g barolsky
:>I'm probably going to buy another one; I have Graumiaux, who I really like,
:>but it seems a little plain (probably because it's been remastered so many
:>times). Who does a pretty good interpretation?
As long as you don't mind a bit of surface noise (and if you do...get over
it), I'd listen to the acoustic recording of Thibaud and Cortot
out on Biddulph. Although their later 1927 recording (out on Biddulph and
EMI) is also wonderful, their earlier rendition is somewhat more
intense. The rocking octaves at the beginning of the third movement is
absolutely haunting.
Another performance which you should listen to is by Alfred Dubois and
Marcel Maas. Ward Marston has done the transfers for Biddulph and it's
just a matter of time before they come out...although the sooner the
better. To get a sense of Dubois/Maas you can hear their recording of
Bach now out on Biddulph. Their Franck, however, is one of the most
refined renditions you'll find.
Daniel Barolsky
samir golescu
On Sat, 26 May 2001, daniel g barolsky wrote:
> Norm Strong <nh...@aol.com> wrote:
> :>I'm probably going to buy another one; I have Graumiaux, who I really like,
> :>but it seems a little plain (probably because it's been remastered so many
> :>times). Who does a pretty good interpretation?
>
> As long as you don't mind a bit of surface noise (and if you do...get over
> it), I'd listen to the acoustic recording of Thibaud and Cortot
> out on Biddulph. Although their later 1927 recording (out on Biddulph and
> EMI) is also wonderful, their earlier rendition is somewhat more
> intense. The rocking octaves at the beginning of the third movement is
> absolutely haunting.
This is absolutely true but it might me that the (rather subtle)
interpretive difference would count less for most listeners than the
considerable improvement in sound between te acoustical and the electrical
versions.
> Another performance which you should listen to is by Alfred Dubois and
> Marcel Maas. Ward Marston has done the transfers for Biddulph and it's
> just a matter of time before they come out...although the sooner the
> better. To get a sense of Dubois/Maas you can hear their recording of
> Bach now out on Biddulph. Their Franck, however, is one of the most
> refined renditions you'll find.
Great news -- I am looking forward to it. I hope it would make up (even
if, alas, only in part) for the absence of an Ysaye version.
regards,
SG
HankM219
>:>I'm probably going to buy another one; I have Graumiaux, who I really like,
>:>but it seems a little plain (probably because it's been remastered so many
>:>times). Who does a pretty good interpretation?
I don't know if it's been reissued on CD, but Oistrakh and Richter make
beautiful music together in this piece on an LP I have. They also play Brahms
No. 3.
Henry Maurer, Cherry Hill, NJ, USA
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Frank Galvin
In article <20010527073837...@ng-mq1.aol.com>,
hank...@aol.com (HankM219) wrote:
> I don't know if it's been reissued on CD, but Oistrakh and Richter make
> beautiful music together in this piece on an LP I have. They also play
> Brahms No. 3.
>
It has been reissued - on a 5-disc German set of Oistrakh perfs.,
damned if I know the label [anybody?], having transferred the
discs to VHS Hi-Fi. Bartok [sonata no.1], DSCH [sonata, op.134]
and Brahms no.2 with SR are also part of the set, and other
goodies abound. And it is [or was] a steal.
Best,
Frank
Norm Strong
>Norm Strong <nh...@aol.com> wrote:
>:>I'm probably going to buy another one; I have Graumiaux, who I really like,
>:>but it seems a little plain (probably because it's been remastered so many
>:>times). Who does a pretty good interpretation?
Yet another example of the attribution getting separated from the text. IOW, I
didn't write that.
David Wake
According to http://richter.simplenet.com/str/discs/franck.html there
are three different Richter/Oistrakh performances of the Franck, which
have been issued on CD on Revelation, Chant du Monde, Melodiya, Mobile
Fidelity and Vox labels. I don't know which, if any, of these issues
are currently available.
David
Steve Emerson
The 5-disc, budget-priced BMG/Melodiya Oistrakh Edition may be what you
have in mind; in any case it includes everything you mention, plus the
Brahms Violin Sonata 3 mentioned by Hank.
SE.
Frank Galvin
In article <3B1156...@dnai.com>, Steve Emerson
<seme...@dnai.com> wrote:
> Frank Galvin wrote:
>> >
>> It [the Franck] has been reissued - on a 5-disc German set of Oistrakh
perfs.,
>> damned if I know the label [anybody?], having transferred the
>> discs to VHS Hi-Fi. Bartok [sonata no.1], DSCH [sonata, op.134]
>> and Brahms no.2 with SR are also part of the set, and other
>> goodies abound. And it is [or was] a steal.
>
> The 5-disc, budget-priced BMG/Melodiya Oistrakh Edition may be what you
> have in mind; in any case it includes everything you mention, plus the
> Brahms Violin Sonata 3 mentioned by Hank.
>
> SE.
Dot's da one. It also has some marvellous transcriptions for
violin and piano [with various pianists] of various fairly
well-known pieces, too many to list.
Thanks a lot for the info. I just wrote the label on my xerox of
the notes.
Best,
Frank.
Matt Barker
sonata is amazing. I've noticed more than a few people mention it, and rightly so.
I only have it on LP, but it might be re-released on CD.
The Heifetz/Rubinstein Franck sonata is worth getting, particularly if you want a
unique version where Heifetz adds to the score to make it more exciting (in his
mind), including a tag at the end of the Finale instead of two bars of rest.
Matt Barker
mba...@kusc.org
Jonathan Yungkans
> The one David Oistrakh did in Moscow with Richter that is coupled with Brahms 3rd
> sonata is amazing. I've noticed more than a few people mention it, and rightly so.
> I only have it on LP, but it might be re-released on CD.
It was out on Mobile Fidelity MFCD 909 with the Shostakovich Violin
Sonata, Op.134.
>
> The Heifetz/Rubinstein Franck sonata is worth getting, particularly if you want a
> unique version where Heifetz adds to the score to make it more exciting (in his
> mind), including a tag at the end of the Finale instead of two bars of rest.
My personal favorite at the moment is Danczowska/Zimerman on DG
Galeria 431469, paired with some stunnning Szymanowski. They find
shadings and phrasings I almost didn't know existed in the Franck,
making it more complex and alluring than usual. Perlman/Argerich on
EMI 56815, which is a live recording from the Saratoga music festifal,
isn't bad either. Takes a couple of movements for Perlman to catch
fire, but worth the wait, especially if you like Argerich's playing.
jy
Matthew B. Tepper
> I'm probably going to buy another one; I have Graumiaux, who I really
> like, but it seems a little plain (probably because it's been
> remastered so many times). Who does a pretty good interpretation?
I imagine it could be possible that Matthew Best would produce a "pretty
good interpretation" of this work, save for the fact that, to my knowledge,
he does not play the piano or the violin.
gggg...@gmail.com
> I'm probably going to buy another one; I have Graumiaux, who I really like,
> but it seems a little plain (probably because it's been remastered so many
> times). Who does a pretty good interpretation?
>
Recent list of recommended recordings:
http://www.musicweb-international.com/mwi-recommends.htm
Mort
Mort Linder
David Fox
tiptoeing around.
DF
dk
> > On Monday, May 21, 2001 at 7:01:07 PM UTC-10, Sam Ghods wrote:
> >> I'm probably going to buy another one; I have Graumiaux, who I really like,
> >> but it seems a little plain (probably because it's been remastered so many
> >> times). Who does a pretty good interpretation?
> >
> >
> > http://www.musicweb-international.com/mwi-recommends.htm
> >
> How about David Oistrakh and Sviatoslav Richter? Two titans at their best.
dk
Herman
Francescatti and Casadesus is another good one.
dk
> On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 5:50:30 AM UTC+2, David Fox wrote:
> > On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 6:28:53 PM UTC-7, Mort wrote:
> > > gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Monday, May 21, 2001 at 7:01:07 PM UTC-10, Sam Ghods wrote:
> > > >> I'm probably going to buy another one; I have Graumiaux, who I really like,
> > > >> but it seems a little plain (probably because it's been remastered so many
> > > >> times). Who does a pretty good interpretation?
> > > >>
> > > >> -Sam
> > > >
> > > > Recent list of recommended recordings:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.musicweb-international.com/mwi-recommends.htm
> > > >
> > > How about David Oistrakh and Sviatoslav Richter?
> > > Two titans at their best.
> > >
> > > Mort Linder
> >
> > How about Thibaud/Cortot from 1923? Makes everyone
> > else sound like they're tiptoeing around.
>
> recordings of the Franck, i.e. Grumiaux. With Oistrakh
> and Richter you'd get a totally different interpretation
> indeed, but do you really want Oistrakh's stridency in
> this piece?
> Francescatti and Casadesus is another good one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afdE-FKiN-s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJjXe9jD5vk
dk
HT
> For something different try:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afdE-FKiN-s
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJjXe9jD5vk
>
> dk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJv23OwtmWA&index=2&list=PLB25EF7165F641A4E
Henk
cooper...@gmail.com
AC
Frank Berger
> On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 7:34:11 AM UTC-4, HT wrote:
>>> For something different try:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afdE-FKiN-s
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJjXe9jD5vk
>>>
>>> dk
>>
>> My favorite is Heifetz/Rubinstein - by far. Just great playing. No excesses. Everything sounds just right.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJv23OwtmWA&index=2&list=PLB25EF7165F641A4E
>>
>> Henk
>
> Has anyone here heard even 20% of the available recordings? Arkivmusic lists 169, and some of my favorites are missing (Wilkomirska/Barbosa,
danielf...@gmail.com
> Chung/Lupu has stood the test of time. A very warm performance. I have
> always been fond of Stern/Zakin although it is nearly 40 years old.
>
> Jon Teske, violinist
I too like Stern/Zakin very much. The CD coupling the Franck with the Debussy and Enescu No. 3 is a winner.
/Daniel
danielf...@gmail.com
/DF
Frank Berger
> On 6/8/2016 11:54 AM, cooper...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 7:34:11 AM UTC-4, HT
>> wrote:
>>>> For something different try:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afdE-FKiN-s
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJjXe9jD5vk
>>>>
>>>> dk
>>>
>>> My favorite is Heifetz/Rubinstein - by far. Just
>>> great playing. No excesses. Everything sounds just
>>> right.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJv23OwtmWA&index=2&list=PLB25EF7165F641A4E
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
Henk
>>
>> Has anyone here heard even 20% of the available
>> recordings? Arkivmusic lists 169, and some of my
>> favorites are missing (Wilkomirska/Barbosa,
>
> Never on CD, right?
>
and actually found copy on e-bay for $3.71 including
shipping. I've admired Wilkomirska's playing for a long
time. She premiered two of Bacewicz's violin concertos,
another favorite of mine. I wish I could find those. Thanks
for the tip.
cooper...@gmail.com
Bacewicz here (with a different set of the Brahms Sonatas than the one w/Barbosa on CS): http://sklep.polskieradio.pl/Products/4850-wanda-wilkomirska-maestra.aspx. I had no problem ordering direct but now it's available from Amazon sellers as well: http://www.amazon.com/Maestra-WANDA-WILKOMIRSKA/dp/B005WPT02C.
AC
Frank Berger
amazon site says the label is EMI "Poland." I have it in my
database bas "Polksie Radio." I don't think EMI was
mentioned anywhere on the disk or notes. Perhaps I missed it.
AB
AB
AB
> I'm probably going to buy another one; I have Graumiaux, who I really like,
> but it seems a little plain (probably because it's been remastered so many
> times). Who does a pretty good interpretation?
>
> -Sam
AB
Mort
> Yes, I have that. Interesting (or maybe not) that the
> amazon site says the label is EMI "Poland." I have it in my
> database bas "Polksie Radio." I don't think EMI was
> mentioned anywhere on the disk or notes. Perhaps I missed it.
It is possible that EMI has a working relationship with a Polish firm.
Mort Linder
markm...@gmail.com
> I'm probably going to buy another one; I have Graumiaux, who I really like,
> but it seems a little plain (probably because it's been remastered so many
> times). Who does a pretty good interpretation?
>
> -Sam
Mark