ANNO. Mark Obert-Thorn and Ward Marston joining Pristine Classical
Andrew Rose
Obert-Thorn in which he mentioned that he was preparing material for
release on the Pristine Audio label, to be available exclusively from
the Pristine Classical website.
Next Friday (11th October) sees the first of Mark's releases - he's
contributed two shorter recordings for this month and next month, with
plans for a series of longer issues from January of next year. It's
really great to have someone of Mark's talent and experience on board,
as well as to be able to unlock some of the treasures of his collection
which might otherwise have been a little too "specialist" or "collector"
for some other record companies.
I'm also delighted to report that Ward Marston will also be joining us,
with a monthly series of releases from his own incredible collection
from the beginning of 2009 - and I'd like to thank Mark for being the
catalyst in bringing myself and Ward together.
Finally, we are in the final stages of putting together a special
Christmas issue, featuring a range rare and wonderful recordings from a
number of Pristine's major contributors, including Mark, Ward, myself,
Peter Harrison and Dr. John Duffy (who has contributed a huge volume of
downloadable work to our PADA Exclusives subscription service). This
promises to be a real treat - and perhaps the first time something like
this has been done.
More information on all of this, and the mouth-watering selections both
Mark and Ward have made for 2009, in due course. Meanwhile look out this
Friday for the first Obert-Thorn Pristine Audio release...
Andrew
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Andrew Rose
My aim is for all of the contributors to have a reasonably free rein
with regard to projects and have as much influence as possible with
regard to what is released.
In other words, I bow to their superior judgement!
Mark has already put together a complete and rather wonderful list of
recordings for 2009, all of which I'm more than happy with. Discussions
with Ward have firmed up issues for January and February, with a
cornucopia of treasures to whittle down thereafter.
I'm hoping this will all prove successful enough in the longer term to
allow for more than a single monthly issue from both Mark and Ward...
ansermetniac
MOT should do the 1954 Walter Mahler 1-NO XR NO Fake stereo-Just MOT
Abbedd
Neil
<and...@pristineaudio.com> wrote:
>
>Mark has already put together a complete and rather wonderful list of
>recordings for 2009, all of which I'm more than happy with
great! More Milstein releases pls Mark!
Paul
Perhaps Ward can upload his Albert Coates transfers to a wider
audience via Pristine.
Paul
Bill Anderson
I know both WM and MOT are great Albert Coates enthusiasts, so I hope
some of those specialist items will include a number of AC's hard to
find items...
- Bill
Andrew Rose
They're certainly near the top of the list.
td
There is clearly an advantage in numbers.
We can only hope that the endless duplication of previously available
material PLUS the use, through appropriate license, of real masters
rather than LP copies of copies of the masters will enhance this
otherwise mediocre label which has so far been limited, and very
limited at that, by what it's owner had managed to scrounge. Not
Marston and MOT have fairly vast holdings, and access to even larger
collections. Now all PA needs is access to the Japanese, who have for
years cornered the market on 78 RPM pressings.
TD
Eric Grunin
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I'm very curious to know what would like to see them produce.
Regards,
Eric Grunin
www.grunin.com/eroica
Andrew Rose
I think his record's stuck.
Shame his pronouncements betray profound ignorance of our catalogue...
td
I am not an expert in the 78 RPM era, but I am familiar - too
familiar, of course - with what has been done and done and done again.
Moreover, it is not my business. It is theirs.
TD
td
Catalogue?
You think?
TD
Matthew B. Tepper
> I think his record's stuck.
>
> Shame his pronouncements betray profound ignorance of our catalogue...
Those last three words are superfluous.
Brendan R. Wehrung
I'd rather continue to get them without having to pay. It's one thing to
spend an hour at the library for no extra cost and quite another to pay
retail and hope that nothing will go wrong during the chain to final CD.
What we should hope for is that Mark's impatience with Naxos in not taking
up his offer of a Harty series is satisfied at Pristine. The latter is
still a minor player compared to Naxos distribution and I hope we will
continue to see the Obert-Thorn name on Naxos historicals as well, which
have become a valuable library of past recorded glory. (Except in the
U.S., of course, but shopping is worldwide for the adventurous.) The
industry has room for both companies.
Brendan
Eric Grunin
I don't think I understand your answer, but maybe you don't understand
my question.
I am not being tricky here, I'm asking an honest question because I
really am curious as to your thoughts: what could these excellent
restorers reissue that you would find of interest?
Regards,
Eric Grunin
www.grunin.com/eroic
david...@aol.com
Luciano Berio: Epifanie
Berio conducting on RCA
Elliott Carter: Double Concerto
Charles Rosen, Paul Jacobs, ECO, Frederick Prausnitz (CBS)
-david gable
td
> Andrew Rose <and...@pristineaudio.com> appears to have caused the following
>
> > I think his record's stuck.
>
> > Shame his pronouncements betray profound ignorance of our catalogue...
>
> Those last three words are superfluous.
These words from the man(sic!) who gives new definition to that
adjective.
TD
td
I was not being elusive, Eric. But I am hardly interested in giving
them a business plan!
Perhaps Rose should acquire a copy of WERM for starters and then
launch his worlwide hunt. Japan would be a
good starting place I think.
TD
td
Don't confuse the issue, David.
Both are protected under copyright laws.
TD
Andrew Rose
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>
> I'd rather continue to get them without having to pay. It's one thing to
> spend an hour at the library for no extra cost and quite another to pay
> retail and hope that nothing will go wrong during the chain to final CD.
>
> What we should hope for is that Mark's impatience with Naxos in not taking
> up his offer of a Harty series is satisfied at Pristine. The latter is
> still a minor player compared to Naxos distribution and I hope we will
> continue to see the Obert-Thorn name on Naxos historicals as well, which
> have become a valuable library of past recorded glory. (Except in the
> U.S., of course, but shopping is worldwide for the adventurous.) The
> industry has room for both companies.
>
I can reassure you that Mark's Pristine work will be in addition to his
regular output for Naxos. What we hope to do is release material that
might be considered unlikely to sell in large enough numbers to meet
Naxos' much higher sales targets - what some may consider the 'more
interesting' stuff...
Mark Obert-Thorn
wrote:
> I'd rather continue to get them without having to pay. �It's one thing to
> spend an hour at the library for no extra cost and quite another to pay
> retail and hope that nothing will go wrong during the chain to final CD.
If problems in downloading and burning to CD are a concern, Pristine
does offer the option to purchase a CD-R with a booklet and jewel
case.
> What we should hope for is that Mark's impatience with Naxos in not taking
> up his offer of a Harty series is satisfied at Pristine. �
Actually, my first release for Pristine will feature Harty, and I plan
to do more of his recordings in the future. Thanks for the
suggestion.
Mark O-T
Matthew B. Tepper
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I am particularly fond of Harty's recordings, and I look forward to your
series!
n.mo...@sheffield.ac.uk
Great news!
Now, please, please, Mark and Andrew, may we at long last hope for
decent (and available!) transfers of all Lortat's Chopin? And then,
having a made a great start with Fauré and Kathleen Long, feel free to
continue exploring the piano and chamber archives! For instance, has
anyone ever transferred Emma Boynet's HMV sides? Where, apart from a
1990s Japanese Toshiba CD which nobody now has a realistic hope of
acquiring, can we hear Denise Soriano and Magda Tagliaferro in Fauré's
Op.13 Sonata? I could go on!...
Best wishes,
Nick
Bill Anderson
Glad to hear that your first issue is with Sir Hamilton!
Do you plan to offer the Schubert 9th? Even with the severe technical
limitations of that recording, it begs for a professional transfer!
- Bill
Mark Obert-Thorn
> Glad to hear that your first issue is with Sir Hamilton!
It is, but in a different capacity than that in which he is normally
heard. (That should narrow the possibilities down to a handful for
those who are familiar with his discography.)
> Do you plan to offer the Schubert 9th? Even with the severe technical
> limitations of that recording, it begs for a professional transfer!
Yes! It's on my approved to-do list for Pristine, and I will be
getting to it eventually (provided the series gets enough support from
collectors to keep it going). It's a difficult set to transfer, as
you probably know, due to some odd side breaks.
Mark O-T
Paul
The Schubert 9th was issued a few years back under the Halle
Orchestra's own banner, but the transfer was a bit recessed. I thought
Bill's version a vast improvement. Also, I have their Capriccio
espagnol (Rimsky Korsakov) from 1929, a real show-piece, both in terms
of performance & recorded quality, and I would dearly love to hear a
really good cleaned up version of that.
Paul
ansermetniac
<prt...@terrt.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>The Schubert 9th was issued a few years back under the Halle
>Orchestra's own banner, but the transfer was a bit recessed
Does thtat mean they were in the hall they recorded it in and the
mastering guy did not use an eq to thrust them forwrd into YOUR room
Abbedd
Paul
> On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 10:55:22 -0700 (PDT), Paul
>
> >The Schubert 9th was issued a few years back under the Halle
> >Orchestra's own banner, but the transfer was a bit recessed
>
> Does thtat mean they were in the hall they recorded it in and the
> mastering guy did not use an eq to thrust them forwrd into YOUR room
>
> Abbedd
Well, the Halle issue lacked impact. Bill's version had more oomph.
The recording had more presence than the Halle issue had led me to
believe.
Paul
ansermetniac
Impact and prescence area audio terms,not Musical
Which had more natrual room ambience?
Abbedd
Dontait...@aol.com
The recording has *no* natural room ambience. I own the 78s and know
them well. The recording was made in a totally dead studio in London
in January, 1928. The dead, airless sound was criticized when the
recording was issued some months later.
Don Tait
Bill Anderson
Thanks for the comment on my transfer from a while back. I was unaware
that Halle Traditions issued it, but the few Harty items I have heard
on that label are, to my ears, disappointing. Far too much noise
reduction and masking of surface noise.
Don Tait & I discussed working on this together as a future project,
but never got down to specifics (My files were from a tape of Don's
"Collector's Item" from 1976,and one of my earliest restorations).
Going back to a different, and cleaner, set would have yielded an
improvement. No real need to go forward with this project knowing MOT
and Andrew (hopefully) will provide us a satisfying download soon!
That R-K Capriccio Espagnol is a great performance. I have a worn copy
and may attempt to transfer it in the next few months (would be a nice
companion to the Coates HMV records of the work)
- Bill
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Announcement:
World famous acoustical remastering team of Mark Obert-Thorn and Ward
Marston are hurriedly joining the campaigns of Barack Obama and John
McCain to attempt to help the candidates inability to correctly hear a
question before the next debate.
For three debates so far, all four candidates have been unable to
correctly respond to questions with a direct answer, ostensibly because
they cannot correctly hear what the question is.
MO-T and WM will put their skills to work remastering the moderators
question, removing any noise from hecklers, adjusting the bias to a
normal level, and scouring out pops, ticks, rumble, wow and flutter.
"I think we've got a little too much wow that I'd like to remove before
the next debate" says Tom Deacon, an acoustical advisor for the Obama
campaign. "I seems that when John McCain said 'How much is the fine?',
Barack heard 'I think you sound fine.'"
Likewise, over in the McCain/Palin camp, things were getting testy.
"John McCain can't seem to get his message out to the people. He keeps
sounding like old recordings of Enrico Caruso." Jeffrey Powell, a
sound engineer assigned to the Obama campaign, said that "McCain always
sounds like that." This may account for John McCain's whisper campaign
which he started at the debate Tuesday night.
Of particular concern is the acoustic quality of Vice Presidential
candidate Sarah Palin, whose normal speech patterns are often disrupted
by interjections of "doggonit!" and "say it ain't so, Joe!" which are
undoubtedly caused by RF radiation interference from the local country
and western radio station, or subways rumbling away somewhere
underground.
Both MO-T and WM promise to liberate the audio from the voters, and,
instead of hearing mealy mouthed non-responses to questions during the
next debate, you will hear Schnabel playing Beethoven Sonatas, and you
will hear it better than you have ever heard it before.
-Owen
R. E. Lombard
> Announcement:
>
> World famous acoustical remastering team of Mark Obert-Thorn and Ward
> Marston are hurriedly joining the campaigns of Barack Obama and John
> McCain to attempt to help the candidates inability to correctly hear a
> question before the next debate.
>
[snip of relevant info]
> -Owen
I predict that Gerard will question the veracity of your information
(and perhaps your species as well). Mr. Powell will restrict himself to
a few obscenities.
bl
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Paul
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Bill's.
By the way, what is a "prescient area"?
Paul
Paul
Yes, the excessive noise reduction was what I was trying to get
across. Your transfer seemed to open out the sound to a remarkable
degree.
Paul