The Best of Mengelberg
cuney...@my-deja.com
and R.Strauss)I am not very familiar with this conductors art.
Could you please comment on Mengelberg's recordings as well as the best
available transfers.
Thanks in advance
CT
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Before you buy.
Salty Dog
>Other than some of his recordings (Mahler's 4th, Bach Matheaus passion
>and R.Strauss)I am not very familiar with this conductors art.
>
>Could you please comment on Mengelberg's recordings as well as the best
>available transfers.
Although I can't comment on transfers, there are several items on M&A
website, some with RealAudio. The CD-1005 1940 Beethoven cycle, while
technically out of print, has a couple copies left on hand and is
still orderable as of today. I've really enjoyed mine.
He's a very worthwhile conductor.
Regards,
Tom Davenport,
Website Administrator, Music & Arts
http://www.musicandarts.com
Sander Verheule
>Other than some of his recordings (Mahler's 4th, Bach Matheaus passion
>and R.Strauss)I am not very familiar with this conductors art.
>
>Could you please comment on Mengelberg's recordings as well as the best
>available transfers.
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>CT
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
I asked a similar question a couple of months ago, and do not regret
following the advice to get the 'Mengelberg and the Concertgebouw -
Columbia Recordings' collection (Pearl). Volume I contains Bach's
Suite nr 2, a number of Beethoven and Weber overtures, short pieces by
Berlioz and Liszt, Brahms 3, and the most exciting Tannhauser overture
I've ever heard. Considering the vintage of these recordings, the
sound is really good. I was also able to get volume II of the Columbia
recordings, which contains Tchaikovsky 4 & 5, the adiagetto from
Mahler 5, Ravel's Bolero and some alternative takes. This second
volume is out of print, but it is worth looking around for it.
Sander.
Marc Perman
>Other than some of his recordings (Mahler's 4th, Bach Matheaus passion
>and R.Strauss)I am not very familiar with this conductors art.
>
>Could you please comment on Mengelberg's recordings as well as the best
>available transfers.
While I defer to our resident Mengelbergians, particularly Samir, I
will say that the following recordings are essential:
Concertgebouw sets on Pearl (esp. Vol. 1)
Tchaikovsky 4-6 on Music & Arts
Beethoven 1, 3, 4-6, 8 on Pearl
Brahms 1 on Lys
Brahms 2, 4 on Biddulph
Strauss Ein Heldenlaben on Pearl
Telefunken recordings on Biddulph (Tchaikovsky Serenade for Strings,
Franck Symphony, etc.)
Marc Perman
samir ghiocel golescu
> Other than some of his recordings (Mahler's 4th, Bach Matheaus passion
> and R.Strauss)I am not very familiar with this conductors art.
>
> Could you please comment on Mengelberg's recordings as well as the best
> available transfers.
By coincidence, I received a private enquiry in the same direction as
well. It is difficult to answer as long as options depend also on what
*composers* each of you prefer.
Never forget the Saint Matthew Passion (I am saying that for the other
gentleman). IMHO you can but without any reserve the cheapish Philips
Duo--three minutes of music cut or not, not a big deal, honestly.
The 2 3CD Pearls (The Complete Columbia Recordings 1926--1932) albums are
a must, I agree. I'd add immediately, out of the studio recs., the "Music
For Strings" as well as the Tchaikovsky Fifth Symphony (1940), both on
Biddulph, both in great M. O.-T. respectively Ward Marston transfers.
I accentuate that, price--schmrice, it is most reasonable to get the
two Pearl--Columbia sets (even if some of those recs. are available
cheaper elsewhere), not because I'd courtship M O-T, but simply because it
is the best option as long as it will be the only way to get in a
systematic manner *all* those wonderful recordings, each "78" side worth
its weight in gold, uniformly well transferred. You'll be surprised
even by the presumedly innocuous "Poet et paysan" overture by Suppe--
under Mengelberg one of the unexpectedly most astonishing recordings of
anything I have heard, and that says enough! Pearl is also the only one to
offer the rare 1927 French sides with two movements from Tchaikovsky's
Fifth, differently--dare I say better?--played from/than their 1928
counterparts.
For the studio Schubert you have two options: either to get the Biddulph
that couples the Eighth and the Ninth,
or (I'd advise the latter) to combine the Pearl's "Rarest Recordings" (the
F.S.'s Eighth plus some other shorter recs, incl. Borodin's "Asian
Steppes") and a Tahra CD (the F.S.' Ninth plus a live Arpeggione with
Cassado, in his transcription for cello and orchestra).
For Brahms I'd recommend the Biddulph CD for the (unique) Second and
(unique) Fourth -- you would have already the 1932 (better played and
recorded) Third in the Pearl-Columbia first set. The First was known only
in the 1940 version (now cheaply at Berkshire, on Lys, don't know the
transfer, I have a deleted Philips CD in excellent sound), but a "brand
'new'" 1943 version should come any day on Tahra--I'll report on that.
I wouldn't advise in favor of Tahra's Brahms set, as long as you can get a
better "coverage" of repertoire with the combinations described above.
For Tchaikovsky you would have the Fifth on the second Pearl-Columbia set
(the 1928 version) and on Biddulph (1940, BOTH version worth hearing
because so different), the (only--1929) Fourth in the same Pearl-Columbia
set and the beautiful studio Serenade [best transferred] on the "Music for
strings" Biddulph.
Then you would need the Sixth. There are two complete versions, 1937 and
1941, not very different, except for a longer--darker--last movement. If
you still find a Teldec CD, the transfer wasn't bad (other Teldecs *were*
bad). If you have patience, I hear Biddulph will publish though the 1937
Pathetique coupled with two of the sonically best Mengelberg recs.:
Brahms' Tragic Overture and Strauss' Death and Transfiguration (both
1942).
For Mengelberg's most virtuosic--a peak of perfection--recording, don't
forget the excellent Pearl CD with the 1928 NY Ein Heldenleben, coupled
with a good 1938 Don Juan (I preferred the 1940 live version though) and
an exciting (again, Mengelberg's 1940 and the 1942-1943 Telefunkens
present a noticeable sonic improvement over the 1937-1938 sessions) Cyrano
de Bergerac Overture by Wagenaar, a work inspired by Don Juan but which
stands on its own splendidly, IMO.
That should inflict enough pain on your wallets, gentlemen, for a good
period of time.
regards,
SG
Matthew Silverstein
> The 2 3CD Pearls (The Complete Columbia Recordings 1926--1932) albums are
> a must, I agree. I'd add immediately, out of the studio recs., the "Music
> For Strings" as well as the Tchaikovsky Fifth Symphony (1940), both on
> Biddulph, both in great M. O.-T. respectively Ward Marston transfers.
Do the Pearl sets include Mengelberg's Beethoven?
Matty
Sander Verheule
The first one has the Coriolan, Ruins of Athens, Leonore I and III,
Egmont overtures, and a movement from the 8th symphony.
samir ghiocel golescu
> Could someone please give recommendations for Mengelberg recordings of
> Beethoven symphonies, then?
Unfortunately, the choices are not (as) multiple (I'd have said
multitudinous, but I was accused of using long words) as in Furtwangler's
case.
The Pearl 3 CD set contains all the (available--rumors about a Telefunken
2nd Symphony didn't bear fruits yet) Beethoven--studio Telefunken: 1, 3,
4, 5, 6, 8.
The live recordings that exist: an entire 1940 cycle (with the exception
of the 3rd, recorded in 1943), as well as some alternates--an earlier 9th
(1938) Some later (1942-1943) 2nd, 3rd and 8th, hitherto unpublished, are
supposed to appear on Tahra (have never listened to the last three yet).
I believe the best you can get is:
the Pearl set (especially for the 1st, 4th and the mindblowing 3rd) AND
a 1940 live set... here's a jungle again... if you check with Dejanews,
you can find lots of (unconclusive) discussions about which transcription
of the 1940 live cycle (Philips, Lys, Music and Arts, Grammophono...)
would be better. The live recs are the only way to get a Mengelberg 2nd,
7th and 9th. Probably still the Philips is the best option--however, Mr
Fogel reported in the past that he liked the M & A set (transferred by
David Lennick, have no idea about the source). A comparison of the
Philips CD and of the Philips LP of the Seventh demonstrates that Mr
Khalona was 100% right and the Philips LP sounds the best among all CDs
(sic!), by far (very noticeably I mean). A Japanese collector told me the
same thing about Mengelberg's 1940 Ninth -- i.e. that the best sound was
on a Philips LP but, as opposed to the Seventh where I can testify about
the difference, I've never heard the Ninth on LP.
OK, I'm sorry, I know the whole story sounds confusing, but the essence
could be this:
for Mengelberg's Beethoven get the 3-CDs Pearl set AND a 1940 live cycle.
If you get a collector friend to burn CDs for you after the Philips
LP-set, that *might* be superior to the CDs in existence.
[I left out collector items as a 1939 Berlin (not BPO) Seventh in inferior
sound, the 1938 Ninth which you don't REALLY need if you have the 1940
one, and the 1930 NYPSO First and Third, very well played but less
characteristic/inflected than the later recordings, IMHO.]
regards,
SG
Matthew Silverstein
>
> Egmont overtures, and a movement from the 8th symphony.
Could someone please give recommendations for Mengelberg recordings of
Beethoven symphonies, then?
Matty
TD
"Matthew Silverstein" <matthew.s...@corpus-christi.oxford.ac.uk>
wrote in message news:8iud7n$4iu$1...@news.ox.ac.uk...
There's a recently released super-duper 3-disc set on Pearl with, IIRC,
1,3,4,5,6,8
Matthew Silverstein
Matty
Marc Perman
>> Could someone please give recommendations for Mengelberg recordings of
>> Beethoven symphonies, then?
>
>There's a recently released super-duper 3-disc set on Pearl with, IIRC,
>1,3,4,5,6,8
Super-duper-ditto.
Marc Perman
Edward A. Cowan
> The Pearl 3 CD set contains all the (available--rumors about a Telefunken
> 2nd Symphony didn't bear fruits yet) Beethoven--studio Telefunken: 1, 3,
> 4, 5, 6, 8.
>
When I began to be interested in Willem Mengelberg, I managed to acquire
all but the studio-recorded Concertgebouw "Eroica" on LP as follows:
Jap. Telefunken MZ 5102 - No.1 (with Strauss, "Tod und Verklärung")
Jap. Telefunken SLC(T) 2326(M) - No.4 (with works by Tchaikovsky and
Debussy)
Jap. Telefunken MZ 5101 - Nos. 5 and 8
Jap. Telefunken SLC(T) 2325(M) - No.6 (with Strauss, "Don Juan")
I later acquired the pairing of nos.5 and 8 on Teldec 243-725-2 (CD) and
was not pleased by the sound.
> The live recordings that exist: an entire 1940 cycle (with the exception
> of the 3rd, recorded in 1943)...
I managed to acquire some of this series on LP (Japanese Fonana =
Philips):
SFON-10605 - Nos. 1 and 2
SFON-10599 - No.5 (with Schubert's "Unfinished")
SFON-10597 - No.6
SFON-10602 - No.7 (with "Fidelio" overture)
I never got the Ninth in this series until it was on CD (Philips 416
205-2). And I never got the other CD reissues of this series. As for a
live "Eroica," I have one, dated 1940, in M&A CD-780. (The notes explain
about the controversy over dating this performance, also dated 1943 by
some...) I did get the RCA-Victrola LP issue of the NYPO "Eroica," and I
acquired the NYPO 1st in one of the volumes of historical recordings
published on LP by Neiman-Marcus. Now I have both of these on Biddulph
WHL 020.
> as well as some alternates--an earlier 9th
> (1938) Some later (1942-1943) 2nd, 3rd and 8th, hitherto unpublished, are
> supposed to appear on Tahra (have never listened to the last three yet).
>
> I believe the best you can get is:
>
> the Pearl set (especially for the 1st, 4th and the mindblowing 3rd) AND
> a 1940 live set... here's a jungle again... if you check with Dejanews,
> you can find lots of (unconclusive) discussions about which transcription
> of the 1940 live cycle (Philips, Lys, Music and Arts, Grammophono...)
> would be better. The live recs are the only way to get a Mengelberg 2nd,
> 7th and 9th.
The Pearl set, just issued, is on my list of things to acquire. If I
could find the Philips CDs of the live series, that would also be on my
list. (Are these in the "Dutch Masters" series from Holland?) Best,
-- E.A.C.
Bogdan Tudose
> > Other than some of his recordings (Mahler's 4th, Bach Matheaus passion
> > and R.Strauss)I am not very familiar with this conductors art.
> >
> > Could you please comment on Mengelberg's recordings as well as the best
> > available transfers.
>
> By coincidence, I received a private enquiry in the same direction as
> well. It is difficult to answer as long as options depend also on what
> *composers* each of you prefer.
>
> Never forget the Saint Matthew Passion (I am saying that for the other
> gentleman). IMHO you can but without any reserve the cheapish Philips
> Duo--three minutes of music cut or not, not a big deal, honestly.
Samir, I can't find any reference to a Philips Duo set with Mengelberg's SMP;
does this really exist?
Bogdan
Sander Verheule
wrote:
It's not in the Philips Duo series, but in the Philips 'Dutch Masters'
series, which is not available directly in the US, but might be
obtainable through an European site. The same series also includes
Mengelberg's wonderful version of Mahler 4.
Sander Verheule.
Simon Roberts
: >
: It's not in the Philips Duo series, but in the Philips 'Dutch Masters'
: series, which is not available directly in the US, but might be
: obtainable through an European site. The same series also includes
: Mengelberg's wonderful version of Mahler 4.
It's available in both, but both are only available as imports in the U.S.
Simon
Sander Verheule
Roberts) wrote:
I didn't know. Is there a difference between these issues? I guess the
Duo does not have the entire Passion.
Simon Roberts
: On 23 Jun 2000 19:11:28 GMT, si...@dept.english.upenn.edu (Simon
: Roberts) wrote:
Correct. The differences are slight, but I forget what they are (I only
have the original Philips CD release which predates both of these); this
was discussed in a previous thread, or perhaps someone else knows the
precise details....
Simon
rkha...@adnc.com
I don't recall exactly what the missing numbers are, but they amount to
a few minutes (less than 5 minutes, IIRC). Mengelberg's St. Matthew
(the 3-CD issue) is not complete anyway, as he left quite a bit out, so
there really is no *complete* S. Matthew by Mengelberg.
Ramon Khalona
Roland van Gaalen
: Other than some of his recordings (Mahler's 4th, Bach Matheaus passion
: and R.Strauss)I am not very familiar with this conductors art.
: Could you please comment on Mengelberg's recordings as well as the best
: available transfers.
I second all the recommendations made so far
One recording which hasn't been mentioned yet (it's probably out of print
anyway) is Bach's cantata "Weichet nur, betruebte Schatten" (#202)
This is an extraordinarily poetic rendition -- a personal, dramatic
interpretation, no doubt, thus showing deep respect for Bach (at least
that's how I hear it)
To van der Sluys, the soprano, died in the 1990s; she had an old-fashioned
sounding yet light vibrato which was perfect for this beautiful piece of
music
Too bad that the Bach cantatas with Mengelberg at the piano in his Swiss
residence (accompanying Jo Vincent, I believe) were not recorded
Roland van Gaalen
Amsterdam
rkhalona
>The Pearl set, just issued, is on my list of things to acquire.
If I
>could find the Philips CDs of the live series, that would also
be on my
>list. (Are these in the "Dutch Masters" series from Holland?)
Yes, they are, and you can order them from
www.kuijperklassiek.nl, but I do not recommend this set as some
of the transfers are botched. The 7th, in particular, is almost
unlistenable due to extraneous clicking (it almost sounds as if
the CD is skipping!) and this has been verified by several users
who have the set (myself included). I have some of these on LPs
(including mint LPs of 5 and 9), which sound better to my ears.
This issue has been discussed throroughly before, so you may want
to search other opinions as well. I also have the Pearl set,
which is WAY better than the Philips, sound-wise.
Ramon Khalona
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Jan Winter
Cowan) wrote:
>The Pearl set, just issued, is on my list of things to acquire. If I
>could find the Philips CDs of the live series, that would also be on my
>list. (Are these in the "Dutch Masters" series from Holland?) Best,
Yes they are. Dutch Masters vol.35 (462 526-2)
--
Regards, Jan Winter, Amsterdam
(j.wi...@xs4all.nl)
Jan Winter
Roberts) wrote:
>Sander Verheule (sver...@iupui.edu) wrote:
>: On 23 Jun 2000 19:11:28 GMT, si...@dept.english.upenn.edu (Simon
>: Roberts) wrote:
>
>: >Sander Verheule (sver...@iupui.edu) wrote:
>: >: >
>: >: It's not in the Philips Duo series, but in the Philips 'Dutch Masters'
>: >: series, which is not available directly in the US, but might be
>: >: obtainable through an European site. The same series also includes
>: >: Mengelberg's wonderful version of Mahler 4.
>: >
>: >It's available in both, but both are only available as imports in the U.S.
>: >
>: >Simon
>
>: I didn't know. Is there a difference between these issues? I guess the
>: Duo does not have the entire Passion.
>
>Correct. The differences are slight, but I forget what they are (I only
>have the original Philips CD release which predates both of these); this
>was discussed in a previous thread, or perhaps someone else knows the
>precise details....
This point comes up indeed every Easter time. In 1999 I concluded:
>AFAIK at this moment the only difference between the 2 [cd; Duo] and the
>3 [cd; Dutch Masters] is
>ca. 3 minutes of music (#28 - Durr #22 - bass rec. "Der Heiland fällt..;
>#44 - Durr #37 - chor. "Wer hat dich so geschlagen...)
where the plain ## are the ones used in the 3 cd booklet and the Durr
## the ones used on the 2 cd set and also by f.i. Gardiner.
Neither of the two has the complete Passion, but the other cuts are
most probably Mengelberg's.
samir ghiocel golescu
> Samir, I can't find any reference to a Philips Duo set with Mengelberg's SMP;
>
> does this really exist?
Yes, I had mine from England, at what I consider a low price and, IMHO,
that bass thing that is missing does not make such a difference, for those
for whom money is an issue, as to make you buy the 3CD "Dutch Masters"
edition. All the other cuts are Mengelberg's. Perhaps I'll dare one day to
advance what I think may have musically and dramatically motivated
Mengelberg's decisions... For now I'll say only that a Passion is *not* a
symphony-i.e. is not definable (perhaps primarily) as an architectural
construct, with one section organically leading into the other-but an
epos, with principal and secondary lines, with musical, poetic and
religious reasons alternating in their primacy. I have any
reason to suspect that Mengelberg considered part (not all) of the "cut"
material included in the original in order to fill Scriptural
requirements, sometimes secondary as related to the big epic line, and
musically (especially in the last section of SMP) prone to interrupt
the dramatic organicity of the music, as envisaged by Mengelberg.
FWIW, I bought my first Mengelberg SMP on a Philips Japan import 3CD
edition, in Italy, in 1992, paying the equivalent of 100$ (120000 L or
so). I still remember the subtly amused look on the face of the young,
thin, long-faced, "intellectual"-looking seller, at my hardly hidden
excitement... he thought I must have been a fool--I watched him minutes
later praising some Giardino Harmonico or whatever recs. to some other
customers.
regards,
SG
Edward A. Cowan
live Mengelberg Beethoven series.
Now a follow-up to earlier message:
Edward A. Cowan <eac...@anet-dfw.com> wrote:
>
> When I began to be interested in Willem Mengelberg, I managed to acquire
> all but the studio-recorded Concertgebouw "Eroica" on LP as follows:
>
> Jap. Telefunken MZ 5102 - No.1 (with Strauss, "Tod und Verklärung")
> Jap. Telefunken SLC(T) 2326(M) - No.4 (with works by Tchaikovsky and
> Debussy)
> Jap. Telefunken MZ 5101 - Nos. 5 and 8
> Jap. Telefunken SLC(T) 2325(M) - No.6 (with Strauss, "Don Juan")
>
> I later acquired the pairing of nos.5 and 8 on Teldec 243-725-2 (CD) and
> was not pleased by the sound.
This evening, I made a comparison between the Japanese Telefunken LP
edition of the 1938 studio recording of Beethoven's 8th symphony and the
Teldec CD edition of same (Teldec 243 725-2, same pairing with Sym. no.5
as on the LP). I now find that the CD sounds like veritable high
fidelity (but it isn't, of course!) compared to the sound heard from the
truly awful LP, which is over-filtered, compressed, utterly
dismal-sounding. The detail is much more audible from the CD, which must
be a completely new mastering from the 78s. (Now I *know* I want to hear
MO-T's transfers on Pearl!) I also listened to the 1927 recording, on
Columbia, of just the second movement of the 8th (in Pearl GEMM CDS
9018, vol.1 of Mengelberg's complete Columbia recordings), which, for
its age, sounded OK but otherwise almost as pallid as the LP of the 1938
recording of the whole work. True, there was more hall sound in the 1927
recording, but there was more detail audible in the 1938 (Teldec CD). (I
must add here that all three CDs in my copy of vol.1 of the Columbias
are bronzed, but seemingly they still play OK. The CDs in my copy of
vol.2 are not bronzed.)
The 1938 performance of the 8th is very strong, with only a few of the
typical Mengelbergian agogics that drive some people up the wall (myself
included, sometimes!). The orchestra plays splendidly. On the LP, the
timpani seemed to be just nontonal "thuds" and little more. On the CD,
they seem to be producing recognizable pitches. 78s were problematic in
this matter, given their limited frequency range. I do wish that
Mengelberg had observed the 1st movement exposition repeat, as Toscanini
did in his 1939 recording with the NBC SO.
WERM-1 lists around 14 different recordings of this symphony from 78rpm
days (p.56), including an "anonymous" one from MA set S 110 (any ideas
who this might have been? possibly Ormandy?...). David Hall, in his 1948
_Record Book_, p.296, states that he had heard only the then-new
VPO/Karajan recording among the European recordings of the 8th (these
included the Mengelberg under discussion and also Munich PO/Kabasta),
and Hall finds the VPO/HvK "superior to any of the domestically made
disks". None of the latter seem to satisfy him (Walter, Toscanini,
Koussevitzky, Weingartner/VPO) so much as the Karajan. WERM lists
several others, including Paris/Munch, RPO/Weingartner, Berlin/Van
Kempen, Boult, Pfitzner, Schalk, and Klemperer.
-- E.A.C.
Jan Winter
<rkhalona...@adnc.com.invalid> wrote:
>The 7th, in particular, is almost
>unlistenable due to extraneous clicking (it almost sounds as if
>the CD is skipping!) and this has been verified by several users
>who have the set (myself included). I have some of these on LPs
>(including mint LPs of 5 and 9), which sound better to my ears.
>
>This issue has been discussed throroughly before, so you may want
>to search other opinions as well.
I know this has been discussed before but FWIIW *my* 7th sounds very
good. No 'clicking' at all. There are 3 or 4 clicks that correspond
with your description in (i) of #8, but that's it. Could it be that
Philips had some production problems which they redressed later on? I
bought my Beethoven set ca. one year ago.
Ramon Khalona
I've heard of stranger problems, so this could well be true. However,
whether it's the 7th or the 8th, this shows that the Philips set could
be improved.
--
Ramón Khalona "La razón no sirve para la existencia"
Carlsbad, California - Ernesto Sábato -
Checker
came from me. I got most of them from either Allen Mackler, formerly
artistic director of WETA-FM, until he burned out on music completely as a
result of hearing all day every day, or from the Willem Mengelberg
Society, run by the late Ronald Klett.
Edward A. Cowan <eac...@anet-dfw.com> wrote:
: samir ghiocel golescu <gol...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
:> The Pearl 3 CD set contains all the (available--rumors about a Telefunken
:> 2nd Symphony didn't bear fruits yet) Beethoven--studio Telefunken: 1, 3,
:> 4, 5, 6, 8.
:>
: When I began to be interested in Willem Mengelberg, I managed to acquire
: all but the studio-recorded Concertgebouw "Eroica" on LP as follows:
: Jap. Telefunken MZ 5102 - No.1 (with Strauss, "Tod und Verklärung")
: Jap. Telefunken SLC(T) 2326(M) - No.4 (with works by Tchaikovsky and
: Debussy)
: Jap. Telefunken MZ 5101 - Nos. 5 and 8
: Jap. Telefunken SLC(T) 2325(M) - No.6 (with Strauss, "Don Juan")
: I later acquired the pairing of nos.5 and 8 on Teldec 243-725-2 (CD) and
: was not pleased by the sound.
:> The live recordings that exist: an entire 1940 cycle (with the exception
: The Pearl set, just issued, is on my list of things to acquire. If I
: could find the Philips CDs of the live series, that would also be on my
: list. (Are these in the "Dutch Masters" series from Holland?) Best,
: -- E.A.C.
Edward A. Cowan
> Did you get a lot of these LPs from Irvington Music? If so, they probably
> came from me. I got most of them from either Allen Mackler, formerly
> artistic director of WETA-FM, until he burned out on music completely as a
> result of hearing all day every day, or from the Willem Mengelberg
> Society, run by the late Ronald Klett.
While I have acquired a great many LPs from Irvington Music, though not
lately, these Mengelbergs were acquired for me by a friend, now
deceased, who used to travel frequently to Japan and got them for me
there. I do have fond recollections of Ronald Klett's Willem Mengelberg
Society...
-- E.A.C.
gggg gggg
> Other than some of his recordings (Mahler's 4th, Bach Matheaus passion
> and R.Strauss)I am not very familiar with this conductors art.
> Could you please comment on Mengelberg's recordings as well as the best
> available transfers.
> CT
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