'Best' Grieg Piano Concerto?
Doggy
I have heard that the Rubinstein, Perahia, and Lupu performances are
very good, but there might be a 'definitive' recording that I don't
know about etc.
I think I accidentally posted this as the Schumann Concerto but I
can't see because Google is so damn slow. Anyway, as they often come
together in CDs you can give me your opinions on both :P
Thanks
countachl
I have always liked Rubenstein's recording with Wallenstein
(and I'm not generally fond of Rubenstein)..
But the most distinctive one I have heard is a Victrola LP by
Kjell Baaklund (sp?). Very lean, sinewy, unsentimental.
Different.
don
Serge Fourcade
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For the Grieg, my favorite among those I've heard is Katchen/Kertesz
(Decca) but the Schumann by the same performers is not as good ...
>Thanks
Serge
Matthew B. Tepper
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> What do you think is the best recording of the Grieg Conerto?
Sorry, but neither Martin Best nor Matthew Best has recorded it.
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Kjell Anders Pettersen
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> Doggy wrote:
>
> > What do you think is the best recording of the Grieg Conerto?
> > I have heard that the Rubinstein, Perahia, and Lupu performances are
> > very good, but there might be a 'definitive' recording that I don't
> > know about etc.
> >
> (and I'm not generally fond of Rubenstein)..
> But the most distinctive one I have heard is a Victrola LP by
> Kjell Baaklund (sp?). Very lean, sinewy, unsentimental.
> Different.
>
The english spelling is: Kjell Baekkelund. You almost had it!
I would like to recommend another renowned (correct use?) norwegian pianist:
Leif Ove Andsnes (www.andsnes.com)
with the Bergen Philharmonic conducted by Dmitri Kitayenko. Beautifully
played!
-Kjell Anders
normanstrong
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Dinu Lipatti is quite good, although the sound is dated.
Norm Strong
Alan Hayward
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> Dinu Lipatti is quite good, although the sound is dated.
"Quite good" as in "Mozart's an OK composer"? ;-)
Bill Pittman
theartf...@bonbon.net (Doggy) wrote:
> What do you think is the best recording of the Grieg Conerto?
> I have heard that the Rubinstein, Perahia, and Lupu performances are
> very good, but there might be a 'definitive' recording that I don't
> know about etc.
There IS no best recording of the Grieg. It's such a horrible concerto
that no one can play it so it's worth hearing.
My opinion only, of course. :-)
John Gavin
pirate recording of Michelangeli / De Burgos - this performance changed
the way I felt about the Grieg forever - that's how transcendental this
reading is. The famous Michelangelian cool is shed - perhaps thanks to
Burgos.
By this way, this was recorded 3 years after the BBC performance. It's
inferior in sound, but the performance is much greater.
Matthew B. Tepper
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I'll think of you while I listen to both of Moiseiwitsch's recordings.
;--)
Ramon Khalona
Lipatti/Galliera (EMI)
Michelangeli/Galliera (Teldec)
Arrau/Galliera (Testament)
I guess Old Alceo owned this concerto. :-)
Curzon/Fjelstad on Decca is also good (and in stereo).
Ramon Khalona
A.J. Robb
Since no one's voted for it:
Perahia-Davis (paired with the Schumann, of course)
Spectacular performance and sound - every idea and characteristic is
so clear and convincing that it's my favorite right now. Colin Davis
really brings the orchestra to life, too.
Henk van Tuijl
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Not definitive at all but the only interpretation I still want to listen to
is Cziffra/Cziffra jr.
Henk
Norman M. Schwartz
Auger's multi-miked 8-track Dolby recording equipment", and I suppose that's
why I like it. I'm not usually BIG on BIS.)
Rajeev Aloysius
>
> For the Grieg, my favorite among those I've heard is Katchen/Kertesz
> (Decca) but the Schumann by the same performers is not as good ...
>
> >Thanks
>
> Serge
Serge,
Mine too. Very few talk about it, I was wondering about that as well.
Kovacevich satisfies me for the moment. Perahia and Lupu do not,
mainly because of the sound. Just my taste.
Katchen very exciting, this is very American (or is it Richter-like
Russian?!) playing, takes this concerto into the virtuoso realm. Risk
taking by the wagonload, all of which come off, as the programme note
so perceptively tells us.
I only heard it on LP along with some rare Grieg.
My questions are:
1) Do you know of any CD reissues,
2) Have you compared to the much praised Andnes? Is it because he is
Norwegian or because he plays it with as much brio and singing tone as
Katchen?
Regards
Rajeev
notrump15-17
Schumann PC.
Matthew B. Tepper
live performance with Stokowski at the Hollywood Bowl.
Marc Perman
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Knardahl's solo Grieg, especially the Lyric Pieces, is wonderful,
as is the geeky photo of her on the back cover of each Knardahl
BIS disc that I have.
Marc Perman
Sacqueboutier
oy?@earthlink.net wrote on 1/5/03 9:25 AM:
> One should hear at least one of the Grainger performances, preferably the
> live performance with Stokowski at the Hollywood Bowl.
Some very interesting recommendations. I've not heard many recordings of
this piece, since it has never really "grabbed" me.
What is the general consensus in this NG over Leon Fleischer. I have an old
LP with Leon playing Grieg and Schumann. Any opinions? (Silly question.)
--
Don Patterson
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Matthew B. Tepper
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So she was never svelte; so what? Anyway, when I was in Minnesota I wished
that the orchestra (of which she had actually been a member) would invite
her back as soloist; they never did.
Paul Goldstein
>
>in article Xns92FA41546D4...@129.250.170.99, Matthew B. Tepper at
>oy?@earthlink.net wrote on 1/5/03 9:25 AM:
>
>> One should hear at least one of the Grainger performances, preferably the
>> live performance with Stokowski at the Hollywood Bowl.
>
>Some very interesting recommendations. I've not heard many recordings of
>this piece, since it has never really "grabbed" me.
>
>What is the general consensus in this NG over Leon Fleischer. I have an old
>LP with Leon playing Grieg and Schumann. Any opinions? (Silly question.)
The Grieg is a rare miss by this duo - it seems completely unsympathetic to
Grief's idiom. The Schumann OTOH is very fine.
The best Grieg concerto I know is Rubinstein/Wallenstein, the stereo version.
Paul Goldstein
Robert Baron
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> > What do you think is the best recording of the Grieg Conerto?
>
> Sorry, but neither Martin Best nor Matthew Best has recorded it.
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Matthew B. Tepper
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> in article Xns92FA41546D4...@129.250.170.99,
> Matthew B. Tepper at oy?@earthlink.net wrote on 1/5/03 9:25 AM:
>
>> One should hear at least one of the Grainger performances, preferably
>> the live performance with Stokowski at the Hollywood Bowl.
>
> Some very interesting recommendations. I've not heard many recordings
> of this piece, since it has never really "grabbed" me.
>
> What is the general consensus in this NG over Leon Fleischer. I have
> an old LP with Leon playing Grieg and Schumann. Any opinions? (Silly
> question.)
I think it's very good; two great Beethoven performers (three, if you count
the Cleveland Orchestra) give their best shot.
Bill Pittman
Paul Goldstein <pgol...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> The Grieg is a rare miss by this duo - it seems completely unsympathetic to
> Grief's idiom.
The best thing ever said about Grieg!
Paul Goldstein
Missed it by that much . . .
Paul Goldstein
Matthew B. Tepper
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What about Arthur de Greef's 1927 recording?
Rajeev Aloysius
> in article Xns92FA41546D4...@129.250.170.99, Matthew B. Tepper at
> oy?@earthlink.net wrote on 1/5/03 9:25 AM:
>
> > One should hear at least one of the Grainger performances, preferably the
> > live performance with Stokowski at the Hollywood Bowl.
>
> LP with Leon playing Grieg and Schumann. Any opinions? (Silly question.)
Consensus? RMCR? Really?
My little voice praising LF's Brahms concertos.
Regards
Rajeev
countachl
Kjell Anders Pettersen wrote:
> "countachl" <coun...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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> > Doggy wrote:
> >
> > > What do you think is the best recording of the Grieg Conerto?
> > > I have heard that the Rubinstein, Perahia, and Lupu performances are
> > > very good, but there might be a 'definitive' recording that I don't
> > > know about etc.
> > >
> > I have always liked Rubenstein's recording with Wallenstein
> > (and I'm not generally fond of Rubenstein)..
> > But the most distinctive one I have heard is a Victrola LP by
> > Kjell Baaklund (sp?). Very lean, sinewy, unsentimental.
> > Different.
> >
>
> The english spelling is: Kjell Baekkelund. You almost had it!
>
> I would like to recommend another renowned (correct use?) norwegian pianist:
The english spelling is: reknowned ;-)
don
Paul Goldstein
says...
>
>Paul Goldstein <pgol...@newsguy.com> appears to have caused the
>following letters to be typed in news:avaqb...@drn.newsguy.com:
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>> In article <williepitt-F60CE...@news.mybizz.net>, Bill
>> says...
>>>
>>>In article <avaas...@drn.newsguy.com>,
>>> Paul Goldstein <pgol...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Grieg is a rare miss by this duo - it seems completely
>>>> unsympathetic to Grief's idiom.
>>>
>>>The best thing ever said about Grieg!
>>
>> Missed it by that much . . .
>
>What about Arthur de Greef's 1927 recording?
Old, very old indeed.
I've not heard it. But how about Ignaz Friedman's? That one's a hoot.
Paul Goldstein
A. Brain
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> > What is the general consensus in this NG over Leon Fleischer. I
have an old
> > LP with Leon playing Grieg and Schumann. Any opinions? (Silly
question.)
>
> Consensus? RMCR? Really?
>
> My little voice praising LF's Brahms concertos.
I had all these Fleisher/Szell recordings--Beethoven, Brahms,
and Schumann/Grieg--on LP. The Odyssey LP of the
Grieg/Schumann was a popular introductory LP for my
little group of college friends discovering classical music.
It also had a beautiful cover, as did many Odyssey LPs
from the period (early '70s). Natural scenes, this one of
a white bird flying over a lake, as I recall.
This coupling on CD is on one of those irregularly released "Portrait"
discs. Probably hard to find.
I now have all the CDs, but I think the Brahms ctos are the best
of the Fleisher/Szell collaboration. The Beethoven ctos have
always had bad, hissy sound (meanwhile, the same company
achieved much better engineering results in NYC, LA, and
Philadelphia with Bernstein, Walter, and Ormandy respectively).
And as I have remarked before, surprisingly enough, the Brahms
"Masterworks Heritage" release has photos of the young Fleisher with
cigarette in hand, a triumph over political correctness. In yet another
triumph on this matter, the NBC show "American Dreams", set in
the early '60s, shows teenage girls smoking. The current movie
"Far from Heaven" shows cigarettes all over the place, whereas
Spielberg's "Saving Private Ryan", incredibly, showed only one
or two in a WWII saga. I am wondering about Spielberg's new
movie, set in the early '60s and supposedly replete with
"authentic" touches.
I really should find a '50s/'60s ng for this kind of thing....
--
A. Brain
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Sacqueboutier
at raj...@starmail.com wrote on 1/5/03 10:59 PM:
I have those and his Beethoven. I probably wasn't clear, but my question
was in reference to the Grieg...the subect of this thread.
Agreed...LF's Brahms concerti (and Beethoven for that matter) hit the right
note for me.
Kjell Anders Pettersen
>
> > "countachl" <coun...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> > news:3E172D48...@attbi.com...
> > > Doggy wrote:
> > >
> > > > What do you think is the best recording of the Grieg Conerto?
> > > > I have heard that the Rubinstein, Perahia, and Lupu performances are
> > > > very good, but there might be a 'definitive' recording that I don't
> > > > know about etc.
> > > >
> > > I have always liked Rubenstein's recording with Wallenstein
> > > (and I'm not generally fond of Rubenstein)..
> > > But the most distinctive one I have heard is a Victrola LP by
> > > Kjell Baaklund (sp?). Very lean, sinewy, unsentimental.
> > > Different.
> > >
> >
> > The english spelling is: Kjell Baekkelund. You almost had it!
> >
> > I would like to recommend another renowned (correct use?) norwegian
pianist:
>
> The english spelling is: reknowned ;-)
>
> don
>
-Kjell Anders
Aage Johansen
> What do you think is the best recording of the Grieg Conerto?
Try to listen to Leif Ove Andsnes (there may be two different
recordings) before you decide.
Regards,
Aage J.
Dan Koren
> very good, but there might be a 'definitive' recording that I don't
> know about etc.
>
> can't see because Google is so damn slow. Anyway, as they often come
> together in CDs you can give me your opinions on both :P
>
Unquestionably the greatest performance of
the Grieg is Michelangeli's wartime recording.
dk
Dan Koren
> My references are all mono:
>
> Lipatti/Galliera (EMI)
> Michelangeli/Galliera (Teldec)
> Arrau/Galliera (Testament)
>
> I guess Old Alceo owned this concerto. :-)
>
He must have leased it from Michelangeli :)
Now seriously, neither Lipatti nor Arrau
can hold a candle to Arturo :)
dk
arri bachrach
> > Lipatti/Galliera (EMI)
> > Michelangeli/Galliera (Teldec)
> > Arrau/Galliera (Testament)
> >
> > I guess Old Alceo owned this concerto. :-)
> >
>
> He must have leased it from Michelangeli :)
>
> Now seriously, neither Lipatti nor Arrau
> can hold a candle to Arturo :)
>
>
> dk
agree about Arrau, but Lipatti is magnificent in a subdued way.....
AB
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> In article <6604a869.03010...@posting.google.com>,
>
> > What do you think is the best recording of the Grieg Conerto?
> > I have heard that the Rubinstein, Perahia, and Lupu performances are
> > very good, but there might be a 'definitive' recording that I don't
> > know about etc.
>
> that no one can play it so it's worth hearing.
>
> My opinion only, of course. :-)
Horrible concerto?!?! Why on earth do you say that??
Oscar
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> What do you think is the best recording of the Grieg Conerto?
> I have heard that the Rubinstein, Perahia, and Lupu performances are
> very good, but there might be a 'definitive' recording that I don't
> know about etc.
>
> can't see because Google is so damn slow. Anyway, as they often come
> together in CDs you can give me your opinions on both :P
>
Hi,
The best that I have ever heard is on 5-23-12 at Fisher Hall, by Evgeny Kissin with the NYPO. I do not know if it is available on the NYPO web site.
Mort Linder
Andy Evans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb8ehe4tekw&frags=pl%2Cwn
HT
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb8ehe4tekw&frags=pl%2Cwn
Henk
MIFrost
MIFrost
Russ (not Martha)
> In article <6604a869.03010...@posting.google.com>,
> theartf...@bonbon.net (Doggy) wrote:
>
>
> There IS no best recording of the Grieg. It's such a horrible concerto
> that no one can play it so it's worth hearing.
>
> My opinion only, of course. :-)
Russ (not Martha)
Ricardo Jimenez
the words effete and prissy for it. Trashy, vulgar, lacks thematic
development, seem more appropriate for that work. At least we don't
have a major piano competition in which how well you play the Grieg
concerto is an important factor.
graham
JohnGavin
Also, I never liked the Grieg Piano Sonata until hearing Alicia De Larrocha’s recording.
Ricardo Jimenez
important contribution to the literature for the piano?
AB
> I’ll mention again that the Michelangeli/ Burgos live recording actually changed my mind about the Grieg Concerto.
>
> Also, I never liked the Grieg Piano Sonata until hearing Alicia De Larrocha’s recording.
AB
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> What do you think is the best recording of the Grieg Conerto?
> I have heard that the Rubinstein, Perahia, and Lupu performances are
> very good, but there might be a 'definitive' recording that I don't
> know about etc.
>
> I think I accidentally posted this as the Schumann Concerto but I
> can't see because Google is so damn slow. Anyway, as they often come
> together in CDs you can give me your opinions on both :P
>
> Thanks
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Outside of Andsnes, I also like Freire/Kempe quite a lot.
