Schumann lieder
Kevin N
discs of his Lieder. Since I don't listen to Lieder very often in
general, I am more interested in single CDs than in box sets. What
would be your recommendations if only allowed one disc of Schumann
lieder?
Thanks.
O
<3d471e9b-c179-4e23...@v37g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
Kevin N <boss...@gmail.com> wrote:
If you're not MP3-averse, there is this very fine version by Petre
Munteanu with some Schubert thrown in as well at a very good price
($7.99):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003GN1QCE/ref=docs-os-doi_0
-Owen
wkasimer
If you can find it, this one:
Other excellent options:
And this one, a personal favorite, with some Schubert:
http://www.berkshirerecordoutlet.com/search.php?submit=Find&brocode=136898&show=1
A lot depends on what singers appeal to you, and whether you want
individual songs, or intact cycles. I think that the Dichterliebe and
Op. 39 cycles are pretty essential. Some of these may be hard to
find; lieder CD's don't stay in print for very long.
Bill
wkasimer
> If you're not MP3-averse, there is this very fine version by Petre
> Munteanu with some Schubert thrown in as well at a very good price
> ($7.99):
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003GN1QCE/ref=docs-os-doi_0
And if you *are* MP3 averse, it's also available at BRO:
http://www.berkshirerecordoutlet.com/search.php?submit=Find&brocode=136898&show=1
Bill
William Sommerwerck
Arkiv gives it a rave 10/10. I learned to sing "Widmung" (not very well)
from this recording.
wagnerfan
news:3d471e9b-c179-4e23...@v37g2000vbv.googlegroups.com...
Fischer-Dieskau's mid-60s Dichterliebe and Liederkreis with Jorg Demus on
DGG is the one I imprinted on and still sounds wonderful. Wagner fan
mandryka
The CDs from Peter Schreier are all excellent -- the one with
Liederkreis Op 24 is a good place to start.
The set of duets with Christoph Eschenbach, Peter Schreier, Dietrich
Fischer-Dieskau and Julia Varady. I see this is now available again.
The CD with the Kerner Lieder with Christopher Eschenbach
Fischer-Dieskau's Schumann Op.39 Liederkreis from Salzburg (Orfeo).
Kathleen Ferrier's Frauenliebe und Leben (London/Decca).
Charles Panzera and Alfred Cortot in Dichterliebe
Other interesting Dichterliebes from Vickers and Finley.
Alan Cooper
com:
male voice: http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=70830
female voice: http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=43456
AC
Philip Peters
Souzay's Liederkreis op.39 & Dichterliebe on Philips (if not OOP)
Philip
wkasimer
> Other interesting Dichterliebes from Vickers and Finley.
I completely forgot about the new Finley disc, which is superb./
Bill
beingvery...@yahoo.co.uk
While chiming in with many of the other posters (Fischer-Dieskau/
Demus, Souzay, Munteanu, Panzera...), I'd like to mention the disc
that though isn't my absolute favourite of the cycle now, got me
hooked on Lieder in general. Bostridge's Schumann cycles on EMI, one
his early recordings.
VG
James_scl
Dietrich Fischer Dieskau Edition: Dichterliebe with Jörg Demus (DGG)
(also available as download @ DGG Store)
http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B00004SC5X%3FSubscriptionId=0VMG0VFGBMRWVRA58R02/180-0299465-1135901
Dietrich Fischer Dieskau Edition: Liederkreis with Jörg Demus (DGG)
(also available as download @ DGG Store)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/o/ASIN/B00004SC5Y%3FSubscriptionId=0VMG0VFGBMRWVRA58R02/278-5923755-0097547
Simon Keenlyside (Hyperion) (also available as download @ iTunes or
Hyperion)
http://www.amazon.com/Robert-Schumann-Keenlyside-Graham-Johnson/dp/B000002ZFQ/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1274321447&sr=1-7
Gerald Finley (Hyperion) (also available as download @ iTunes or
Hyperion)
http://www.amazon.com/Schumann-Dichterliebe-other-Heine-Settings/dp/B001CJYJRS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1274321743&sr=1-1
Wolfgang Holzmair (Philips)
http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B0000041BI%3FSubscriptionId=0VMG0VFGBMRWVRA58R02/180-0299465-1135901
Christoph Prégardien (RCA)
http://www.amazon.com/Robert-Schumann-Liederkreis-Op-Kerner-Lieder/dp/B00004KDAB/ref=sr_1_60?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1274299953&sr=1-60
Christian Gerhaher (RCA) (also available as download @ iTunes)
http://www.amazon.com/Schumann-Dichterliebe-Lieder-Op-90/dp/B0001M4DJ6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1274300126&sr=1-1
Gérard Souzay: The Early Years (Philips) (2CD Set: Schumann, Beethoven
& Brahms)
http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B000001331%3FSubscriptionId=0VMG0VFGBMRWVRA58R02/180-0299465-1135901
Oscar Williamson
Schumann lieder discs. He's as good as they come in 2010, IMO. His
recent Mahler disc is fantastic, too.
Johannes Roehl
Although op.48 and op.39 are probably the best cycles, don't overlook
op.24 (Heine settings, a precursor of Dichterliebe) and the Kerner
settings op.35 (Pregardien/RCA is very good, also Fi-Di from the
1950ties or 60ties). I also like the Andersen settings op.40(?) with two
rather "Mahlerian" songs, "Der Soldat" and "Der Spielmann".
Johannes
Matthew B. Tepper
letters to be typed in
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> http://www.amazon.com/Melancholie-Liederkreis-op-39-Christian-Gerhaher/dp
> /B000WGWW9Y/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1274300126&sr=1-2
Who does (and for that matter, who approves) the cover photos for these CDs?
This one looks like it could be a booking photo of Robert Downey, Jr.
--
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> Fischer-Dieskau's mid-60s Dichterliebe and Liederkreis with Jorg Demus on
> DGG is the one I imprinted on and still sounds wonderful. Wagner fan
Assuming you mean the Op. 39 Liederkreis and not Op. 24, FiDi redid those
with Eschenbach in the mid-'70s, and the CD containing both cycles, plus
"Myrten," is worth seeking out if you like his vocal state in those years.
The readings with Demus I used to have on LP, a long time ago, and I wouldn't
fault you if you prefer the freshness of his voice in those days.
wagnerfan
news:Xns9D7E5ECE6F0...@216.168.3.70...
Yes I have the later versions as well but I think the vocal freshness of the
of the 1965 versions suit the cycle better - it was one of my first Lieder
LPs. I have the Dichterliebe on CD on DG as part of the Fischer-Dieskau
edition partnered with first time on CD Schumann Lieder with Weissenborn.
Wagner fan
mandryka
There are some Schumann recordings that I am quite curious about and
I'm wondering if anyone knows them - before I plunge in. They are:
Souzay's late (1950s) Dichterliebe with Cortot. Is it available
anywhere? What is it like?
Fassbaender's Schumann and Mendelssohm disc. on EMI.
Goerne's Schumann discs with Schneider
Margaret Price's Schumann discs on Hyperion with Graham Johnson
Gerhaher's recordings with Hueber.
And the Pre-war German singers. People like Karl Erb and Leo Slezak.
Have their Schumann recordings ever been collected together?
mark
If you're limiting yourself to a single disc, then I would suggest you
pick up Fritz Wunderlich's Dichterliebe. The commercial recording on
DG Originals from 1965 also contains music of Schubert & Beethoven
( http://www.amazon.com/Schumann-Dichterliebe-Wunderlich-Giesen-Robert/dp/B000001GXG
). Wunderlich - or any tenor, for that matter - has the advantage of
singing these songs in the keys in which they were written. The
baritone keys in this cycle radically alter the tone and mood of the
piano part. Wunderlich's voice is perfectly suited to this music. He
has style, grace, sweetness of tone and power when needed.
wkasimer
> What would be your recommendations if only allowed one disc of Schumann
> lieder?
I forgot this one:
It's OOP, but used copies aren't hard to find, and Hagegard's high
baritone is ideal for these songs.
Bill
laraine
> wkasimer <wkasi...@comcast.net> appears to have caused the following> >http://www.amazon.com/Melancholie-Liederkreis-op-39-Christian-Gerhahe...
> > /B000WGWW9Y/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1274300126&sr=1-2
>
> Who does (and for that matter, who approves) the cover photos for these CDs?
> This one looks like it could be a booking photo of Robert Downey, Jr.
>
> --
> Matthew B. Tepper: WWW, science fiction, classical music, ducks!
> Read about "Proty" here:http://home.earthlink.net/~oy/proty.html
> To write to me, do for my address what Androcles did for the lion
> Opinions expressed here are not necessarily those of my employers
But his hair is original!
And he has a sort of half-smirk,
half-frown on his face.
In any case, many musicians
include photos of themselves
on the front cover....
Is it taking attention away from
the composer/music to do so....
C.
Philip Peters
>
> There are some Schumann recordings that I am quite curious about and
> I'm wondering if anyone knows them - before I plunge in. They are:
>
> Souzay's late (1950s) Dichterliebe with Cortot. Is it available
> anywhere? What is it like?
I'm not sure whether it's available right now but you can spare yourself
a big disappointment by not buying it. Most peculiar for Souzay at this
early stage of his career, he had a terrible off day and it's painful to
hear him sing here. I wonder why this recording was ever issued. It's
the more a pity because it would have made marvelous to compare it to
Panz�ra/Cortot had Souzay been his normal self.
> Fassbaender's Schumann and Mendelssohm disc. on EMI.
Never heard this.... (note to self etc.)
>
Goerne's Schumann discs with Schneider
> Margaret Price's Schumann discs on Hyperion with Graham Johnson
> Gerhaher's recordings with Hueber.
These are all highly recommended IMO.
>
> And the Pre-war German singers. People like Karl Erb and Leo Slezak.
> Have their Schumann recordings ever been collected together?
Not that I know of. I'm not sure if either of them recorded much
Schumann (I do remember Erb singing Mondnacht - from op.39) but most
probably others here are more knowledgeable about this.
Both do fantatstic in Schubert, I feel but that's beside the point.
Philip
mandryka
> mandryka schreef:
>
>
>
> > There are some Schumann recordings that I am quite curious about and
> > I'm wondering if anyone knows them - before I plunge in. They are:
>
> > Souzay's late (1950s) Dichterliebe with Cortot. Is it available
> > anywhere? What is it like?
>
> I'm not sure whether it's available right now but you can spare yourself
> a big disappointment by not buying it. Most peculiar for Souzay at this
> early stage of his career, he had a terrible off day and it's painful to
> hear him sing here. I wonder why this recording was ever issued. It's
> the more a pity because it would have made marvelous to compare it to
>
> > Fassbaender's Schumann and Mendelssohm disc. on EMI.
>
> Never heard this.... (note to self etc.)
>
>
>
> Goerne's Schumann discs with Schneider
>
> > Margaret Price's Schumann discs on Hyperion with Graham Johnson
> > Gerhaher's recordings with Hueber.
>
> These are all highly recommended IMO.
>
>
>
> > And the Pre-war German singers. People like Karl Erb and Leo Slezak.
> > Have their Schumann recordings ever been collected together?
>
> Not that I know of. I'm not sure if either of them recorded much
> Schumann (I do remember Erb singing Mondnacht - from op.39) but most
> probably others here are more knowledgeable about this.
> Both do fantatstic in Schubert, I feel but that's beside the point.
>
> Philip
Thanks.
I have just been listening to Kipnis and Hotter in Schumann.
It would be great if someone collected together these old recordings.
Mind you, we'd end up with a CD with 10 performances of Mondnacht!
gggg gggg
"Erna Sack: Der nussbaum. Op. 25. (1937)."
Lyle Cohen
After that: https://www.amazon.de/Frauenliebe-Leben-Brigitte-Fassbaender/dp/B00000E325 is excellent.
Andy Evans
gggg gggg
gggg gggg
gggg gggg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6BUJjSQqNI
