best recorded version of Sibelius Symphony No. 7?
(Adam Gott)
Can anyone recommend a recording of Sibelius Symphony No. 7?
I got an RCA Red Seal 8 Track (yes, that 8-track) today and just love
it. Is this one available on CD? It is conducted by Ormandy.
Thanks in advance.
==================================================
http://snake.srv.net/~got/adam.html
Email with the subject 'cheap books' for a list
of hundreds of used SciFi/Fantasy books for sale
at $1.50 each
Follow the URL above to find my list of over 700
audio bootlegs.
==================================================
Chuck Nessa
Where did you find the old pickup to play it in?
CN
Matthew Vaughan
> Can anyone recommend a recording of Sibelius Symphony No. 7?
>
> I got an RCA Red Seal 8 Track (yes, that 8-track) today and just love
> it. Is this one available on CD? It is conducted by Ormandy.
>
> Thanks in advance.
There are a couple that I like very much: von Karajan/Berlin/DG (1967, I
think - may not be currently available), and Blomstedt/SFS/Decca (not yet
released in the US). There also seems to be much praise for a recording by
Beecham, though I haven't had the pleasure of hearing it yet.
....................................................
MATTHEW VAUGHAN
matthewv at mindspring dot com (damn spammers...)
http://matthewv.home.mindspring.com/
....................................................
George Murnu
I agree with Karajan and I also like Barbirolli, although I don't know
if it ever was available on CD.
BrtherJohn
>>
I got an RCA Red Seal 8 Track (yes, that 8-track) today and just love
it. Is this one available on CD? It is conducted by Ormandy.
<<
I still have Ormandy's RCA Sibelius on vinyl. I don't think it's on CD yet,
(unlike his Quadrophonic 2nd) but you can get Sony's Essential coupling with
the Sibelius 2nd. This is highly recommended and is marginally preferable to
the later RCA accounts.
Brthe...@aol.com (John Blair)
G. Brown
Neil Tingley wrote:
>
> On Tue, 06 Jan 1998 22:36:17 GMT, g...@srv.net ((Adam Gott)) wrote:
>
> >Can anyone recommend a recording of Sibelius Symphony No. 7?
>
> dark, and very subtlely paced - the transitions from section to section are
> totally seemless. The orchestra play very well and the recording is bright and
> clear. Rattle really makes this work resolve itself. I nthis performance there's
> a terrific aura of Northerness and the warmth of memories and the terrifying
> cold of the elements. The coupling is a rumbustious account of the 3rd.
I agree completely...both his 7th and 3rd are well worth having.....gb
Paul Goldstein
Although this may strike some as heretical, I don't think I've ever
heard a bad performance of Sibelius' 7th symphony. Maybe because any
conductor who would take the trouble to add this piece to his or her
repertory would be sufficiently committed to Sibelius to do a good job?
Anyway, I can highly recommend Beecham mono, Beecham stereo, Barbirolli,
Davis/BSO, Davis/LSO, Jarvi, Collins, and probably a few more I'm
forgetting right now.
Muhamed
I like Bernsteins ecording on DG and Davis/Boston on Philips. Karajan is
good too.
//Muhamed
(Adam Gott) wrote in message <34b2b188...@news.srv.net>...
>Can anyone recommend a recording of Sibelius Symphony No. 7?
>
>I got an RCA Red Seal 8 Track (yes, that 8-track) today and just love
>it. Is this one available on CD? It is conducted by Ormandy.
>
Paul Goldstein
George Murnu wrote:
>
> Matthew Vaughan wrote:
[snip]
> I agree with Karajan and I also like Barbirolli, although I don't know
> if it ever was available on CD.
Yes, but only as far as I know on a Japanese EMI issue c/w the Sibelius
5th. I forget if it is a "Studio" or a "Seraphim" issue. I found my
copy at the Tower Outlet in San Francisco.
Bob Harper
In article <34b416aa...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, amco...@ix.netcom.com
(Alan Cooper) wrote:
>g...@srv.net ((Adam Gott)) wrote:
>
>>Can anyone recommend a recording of Sibelius Symphony No. 7?
>
>The benchmark performance, IMO, is Koussevitzky's (in the Pearl
>anthology). My other favorite is Collins (coupled with a thrilling
>Symphony #1 on Beulah).
>
>Alan Cooper
Don't know the Collins, but I agree about the "benchmark" nature of the
Koussevitzky (despite the 1933 sound). However, for an even more intense
performance in acceptable stereo, try Mravinsky. Not the only way, to be
sure (I also like Davis/LSO), but overwhelming all the same.
Bob Harper
Rob Barnett
No one has mentioned the Mravinsky version with the Leningrad PO. It
was taken from a live concert performance in 1965. The tension and
majesty of the piece is brought out in a way I have never heard in
any other performance. The atmosphere is electric. If you can live
with some audience noise - not much - then go for this performance.
I'd be interested in other reactions.
Rob
Alan Cooper
(Adam Gott)
Dateline: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 18:56:32 -0600 -- Author: Chuck Nessa
<cne...@earthlink.net>
>Where did you find the old pickup to play it in?
I figured that I would get a lot of wacky responses but this one was
pretty good. Actually I have been thinking about putting an 8 track
player in my old pickup, it has those older 8 ohm speakers and I don't
feel like redoing all of that so I may just put in an 8 track player,
I have and can get quite a few classical 8 tracks.
At least the classical 8 tracks always seem to have been better taken
care of, unlike most popular 8 tracks (90 percent of which have beer
or cigarette ash residue on the tape).
(Adam Gott)
Thanks for all of your advice. I should have no problem upgrading my
8-track tape...
YProchazka
The discussion on Sibelius reminds me of the 10th symphony
of E. Tubin I once heard on radio.
Anybody has a recommendation on where to start with Tubin?
I am also looking for a piece/suite? by Sibelius. The title of the piece
appears to be Historical scenes? Any recommendations besides Beecham which is
OP?
Thanks.
P.
woohoo
Paul Goldstein <pgold...@jtcb.com> wrote in article
<34B3ED...@jtcb.com>...
are you talking about the barbirolli? I have been waiting for 15 years to
see his set released on cd, in fact it has become a paranoid obsession with
me. i dearly miss his sibelius.
woohoo
Paul Goldstein <pgold...@jtcb.com> wrote in article
<34B501...@jtcb.com>...
> Alan Lai wrote:
> Kajanus never recorded Sibelius' 7th as far as I know.
>
>
yes, i thought i saw it, but am not sure, but i think it's there
woohoo
(Adam Gott) <g...@srv.net> wrote in article
<34b2b188...@news.srv.net>...
> Can anyone recommend a recording of Sibelius Symphony No. 7?
>
> I got an RCA Red Seal 8 Track (yes, that 8-track) today and just love
> it. Is this one available on CD? It is conducted by Ormandy.
>
ok you guys, WHERE are you finding barbirolli's set?
has emi FINALLY released this long awaited set?
is it the with the halle?
has anyone seen (aside from the 2nd symphony) his allusive BBC Symphony
recordings
signed
Barney O'Hara, ( great lover of sir john, without whom, i would not have
fallen in love with classical music.)
Bruce Rodean
In article <19980109071...@ladder01.news.aol.com> YProchazka (yproc...@aol.com) wrote:
> The discussion on Sibelius reminds me of the 10th symphony
> of E. Tubin I once heard on radio.
> Anybody has a recommendation on where to start with Tubin?
My two favorites are the two CDs with Symphonies 2 & 6 or 3 & 8 on BIS.
The CD with the 10th includes the Requiem for Fallen Soldiers which
doesn't do much for me I'm afraid. There is also a fascinating CD with
the double bass concerto, the violin concerto, and other pieces on BIS.
--
Bruce Rodean
rod...@fc.hp.com
Andrew Burton
WHAT ABOUT ANTHONY COLLINS AND THE LSO ON DECCA OR BEULAH!!
James C.S. Liu
On 9 Jan 1998 13:29:10 GMT, "woohoo" <0@0.0> wrote:
>are you talking about the barbirolli? I have been waiting for 15 years to
>see his set released on cd, in fact it has become a paranoid obsession with
>me. i dearly miss his sibelius.
I'm currently looking at Intaglio INCD 7171, which has a live
performance of Glorious John conducting the 7th with the Helsinki SO
in a performance in London. Intaglio went out of business, but copies
may still be available as cutouts or via Berkshire.
/J
-- | "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to
/James C.S. Liu | instruct him to hold in higher regard
jame...@yale.edu | those who think alike than those who think
New Haven, Connecticut | differently." -- Friedrich Nietszsche
My opinions have nothing to do with my employer!
Martha Oppenheim
YProchazka wrote:
>
> The discussion on Sibelius reminds me of the 10th symphony
> of E. Tubin I once heard on radio.
> Anybody has a recommendation on where to start with Tubin?
>
> appears to be Historical scenes? Any recommendations besides Beecham which is
> OP?
>
> Thanks.
> P.
That would be the 2 sets of Scenes Historiques, Opp 25 and 66. I think
the BIS recording with Järvi is fine; also has En Saga. Speaking of
Beecham I think I read somewhere that he used to play the 3 numbers in
Op 66 in reverse order (i.e. with La Chasse as a finale), and I like it
that way myself and program the CD player accordingly.
Russ O.
--
----------------------
Martha Oppenheim
mopp...@ix.netcom.com
----------------------
Rob Barnett
For Tubin start with his Symphony No. 4 on Bis.
Rob
Jicotea
Bruce Rodean <rod...@fc.hp.com> wrote in article
<695gc1$9...@fcnews.fc.hp.com>...
> In article <19980109071...@ladder01.news.aol.com> YProchazka
(yproc...@aol.com) wrote:
> > The discussion on Sibelius reminds me of the 10th symphony
> > of E. Tubin I once heard on radio.
> > Anybody has a recommendation on where to start with Tubin?
>
> My two favorites are the two CDs with Symphonies 2 & 6 or 3 & 8 on BIS.
> The CD with the 10th includes the Requiem for Fallen Soldiers which
> doesn't do much for me I'm afraid. There is also a fascinating CD with
> the double bass concerto, the violin concerto, and other pieces on BIS.
You might start with the BIS recording of the 4th Symphony, as I did. It
was such a costive turn-off that I never again tried seriously to listen
to _any_ piece by Eduard Tubin. You may thereby save yourself a great
deal of time and money.
John Wiser
Kurt Hansen
On Fri, 09 Jan 1998 17:24:13 -0600, Martha Oppenheim wrote:
>YProchazka wrote:
>>
>> The discussion on Sibelius reminds me of the 10th symphony
>> of E. Tubin I once heard on radio.
>> Anybody has a recommendation on where to start with Tubin?
My personal favourits is Tubins symphony no. 7 (BIS 401) and the suite
from the ballet "Kratt" (BIS 306, which also includes sym. no. 5).
BIS has recorded Eduard Tubin completely, as far as I know (see
http://www.bis.se).
Best regards
Kurt Hansen
Eric Schissel
My own favorite Tubin is sym. 7. One needs to understand that Tubin's
works basically divide into before-sym.-6 and after-sym.-5 :) People who
like syms 1-5 are often not people who like syms 6-11, and vice versa.
(It's not too unlike the difference between Brian's first 4 symphonies and
his later ones: he trimmed the fat later on. This opinion is quite
consistent with my favorite Brian symphony's being #4.)
(I can't quite hear sym. 4 as costive. sym. 2 does give me problems,
FWIW, as does sym. 3 on occasion, but I find myself enjoying all the
others- except perhaps 6.)
sym. 7 is in 3 movements: a basically e minor sonata-movement with a
nearly Romantic D-flat second theme; an f minor/b-flat minor slow movement
with central scherzo which, like Hindemith's 3rd cello concerto, plays the
two themes simultaneously at one point, each at their proper tempi; and a
strange, sometimes nearly atonal, and thrilling finale ending in B.
-Eric Schissel
Eric Schissel
Kurt Hansen (k-ha...@post4.banan.tele.dk) wrote:
>My personal favourits is Tubins symphony no. 7 (BIS 401) and the suite
>from the ballet "Kratt" (BIS 306, which also includes sym. no. 5).
>BIS has recorded Eduard Tubin completely, as far as I know (see
>http://www.bis.se).
Not really, I think, but between them and Ondine (the 2 operas) they've
come pretty close.
-Eric Schissel
MUH LIN
On 9 Jan 1998, woohoo wrote:
> ok you guys, WHERE are you finding barbirolli's set?
>
> has emi FINALLY released this long awaited set?
>
> is it the with the halle?
The Barbirolli set must have been released by Toshiba EMI. Yes, again
with the Japanese EMI. I have no idea as to what's wrong with EMI: I
couldn't get the Beecham rehearsal, the Klemperer "Romantic overture"
album, Joseph Schmidt vol.2, the Yvonne Printemps set, and JB conducting
Italian operatic excerpts on Phoenixa, etc, etc. They're either short-
lived or unavaliable everywhere except in their headquarter.
Muh-Chung Lin 980111
woohoo
James C.S. Liu <jame...@yale.edu> wrote in article
<34b65328...@news.yale.edu>...
> On 9 Jan 1998 13:29:10 GMT, "woohoo" <0@0.0> wrote:
>
> >are you talking about the barbirolli? I have been waiting for 15 years
to
> >see his set released on cd, in fact it has become a paranoid obsession
with
> >me. i dearly miss his sibelius.
>
> I'm currently looking at Intaglio INCD 7171, which has a live
> performance of Glorious John conducting the 7th with the Helsinki SO
> in a performance in London. Intaglio went out of business, but copies
> may still be available as cutouts or via Berkshire.
>
> /J
is it with Schoenberg ? Pellias and Mellisande (forgive my spelling
PLEASE)
I found a mono recoding of Sir John doing the 7th coupled with this. It's
okay, but I miss his stereo emi.
James C.S. Liu
I wrote:
>> I'm currently looking at Intaglio INCD 7171, which has a live
>> performance of Glorious John conducting the 7th with the Helsinki SO
>> in a performance in London. Intaglio went out of business, but copies
>> may still be available as cutouts or via Berkshire.
On 12 Jan 1998 13:32:44 GMT, "woohoo" <0@0.0> wrote:
>is it with Schoenberg ? Pellias and Mellisande (forgive my spelling
>PLEASE)
The coupling is Schoenberg's Pelleas and Melisande, with JB
conducting the Halle Orchestra, from an April 1968 performance.
>I found a mono recoding of Sir John doing the 7th coupled with this. It's
>okay, but I miss his stereo emi.
I don't know OTTOMH if it's mono or not, but it sounds like you got
the same performance. Might be a different remastering, possibly with
better sound, but that's had to judge.
Diane Wilson
In article <695gc1$9...@fcnews.fc.hp.com>, rod...@fc.hp.com says...
> In article <19980109071...@ladder01.news.aol.com> YProchazka (yproc...@aol.com) wrote:
> > The discussion on Sibelius reminds me of the 10th symphony
> > of E. Tubin I once heard on radio.
> > Anybody has a recommendation on where to start with Tubin?
>
> The CD with the 10th includes the Requiem for Fallen Soldiers which
> doesn't do much for me I'm afraid. There is also a fascinating CD with
> the double bass concerto, the violin concerto, and other pieces on BIS.
I've found Tubin rather interesting in his inclusions of folk themes.
The suite from the ballet Kratt and the Suite on Estonian Dances are both
wonderful. These are very different from the symphonies I've heard
(4, 5, 9).
--
Diane Wilson |
dewi...@pobox.com | Pain avoidance and pain deferral
http://www.lava.net/~dewilson/ | both become pain amplification.
http://www.acm.org/chapters/trichi/ | --me