For Download: Georg Schneevoigt Sibelius Symphonies 4 & 6 (1934 rec.)
vhorowitz
Sibelius:
Symphony No. 4 in A Minor, Op. 63
Symphony No. 6 in D Minor, Op. 104
Luonnotar (with Helmi Liukkonen, Soprano)
Georg Schneevoigt, conductor
Finnish National Orchestra
June 4, 1934, live performance in London (4th Sym. & Luonnotar)
World Records Sh 237 (1976)
June, 1934 (EMI studio recording)
World Records SH 173/4
Oceanides, Op. 73
Sir Adrian Boult, conductor
B.B.C. Symphony Orchestra
January 23, 1936 (DB 2797)
For a variety of reasons, this recording of the Sibelius 4th Symphony
by Georg Schneevoigt has seen but one issue, on a World Records Lp
issue from 1976. It dates from 1934, recorded by EMI at a public
performance by the Finnish National Orchestra in London, but not
issued at the time. Sibelius himself had reservations about this
recording, hence it was shelved and Sir Thomas Beecham ended up making
an approved and issued recording in 1936 (Stokowski's Philadelphia
recording pre-dates these, and is from 1932).
The flaws are plain to hear at times: the brass attacks at letter "B"
in the 1st movement are not at all together, and everyone seems to be
having a rough time in the last movement (intonation from the clarinet
and brass is fairly sketchy), but there's an interesting brooding
quality to the (quite slow) 1st movement. In any case, it's certainly
of major interest in the early Sibelius discography, so I'm not quite
sure why it's not been re-issued in the cd era.
The performance of "Luonnotar" is from the same London concert in
1934, but the Sixth Symphony is from the better known issued studio
recording done during this same 1934 visit to London, and it has had
some circulation in the cd era, but I decided to fill this cd worth
with a dub of the A.C. Griffith transfer for World Records in 1973,
and it still sounds quite good. The Boult item fills out the 4th
Symphony's LP. I've included a scan of the back cover of this LP,
which goes into more detail about the saga of the recording.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Schneevoigt
(which includes some really nasty comments attributed to LA
Philharmonic members regarding Schneevoigt!)
http://rapidshare.com/files/118743216/Schneevoigt_Sibelius.rar
256kbps Mp3s in a rar file
Enjoy!
Neal
Otterhouse Rolf
*rolf sings the stranglers*: No more Rapidshare anymore....
Sorry, Rapidshare is off-line.
Rolf
Sacqueboutier
Interesting. I'm downloading now and I didn't
have to navigate the little pussycats.
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Kindest regards,
Don Patterson
Sacqueboutier
Just worked for me...didn't even have to fuss with
the cats.
Thanks for the files Neal. Listening now.
Otterhouse Rolf
Could download it this time...
Thanks!!
Matthew B. Tepper
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Schneevoigt
> (which includes some really nasty comments attributed to LA
> Philharmonic members regarding Schneevoigt!)
And of course Schnéevoigt is the reason that Esa-Pekka Salonen is the
*second* Finn to have been music director of the L.A. Philharmonic!
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> Interesting. I'm downloading now and I didn't have to navigate the little
> pussycats.
The benefit of waiting for Rapidsnore's "Happy Hour"!
Brent Miller
Helsinki Philharmonic Orchestra. Is this just a case of the same
orchestra - different name kind of thing one finds with Russian
(particularly Soviet era) orchestras?
"vhorowitz" <vladho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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vhorowitz
> The Finlandia release of the 6th symphony lists the orchestra as the
> Helsinki Philharmonic Orchestra. Is this just a case of the same
> orchestra - different name kind of thing one finds with Russian
> (particularly Soviet era) orchestras?
>
Is that Finlandia cd taken from the EMI transfers from the 70s, like
the Kajanus set? I'm curious to compare my World Records lps of the
Kajanus performance transfers, because I was surprised to find the
sound on the (Schneevoigt) 6th Symphony pretty good, and the Kajanus
stuff does NOT sound very good at all on the Finlandia
set.....comparison time!
Neal
Thanks for all who thanked me......more Coates up next!!
vhorowitz
Schneevoigt in action (rather fuzzy action in the free "preview") in 2
British Pathe newsreels filmed during that 1934 visit, conducting
Elgar's Cockaigne Ov. in on, and Sibelius' Finlandia in the other.
Go to:
and search for 'finnish orchestra' (removing the quotes), you'll find
the 2 films. It's seems that one must register and add these to the
basket to view, but the low quality "preview" versions are free.
Neal
Damian R
Kubelik with the Czech PO at a Skoda Factory, Ferdinand Grossmann conducting
the Blue Danube with the Men's Singing Club of Vienna (same performers as on
a 78 I put on my site on New Year's Day), Henry Wood, Edward Elgar,
Svetlanov, Oistrakh, Pierino Gamba, Eric Coates, Adrian Boult, Alick
Maclean, Bournemouth Orchestra under both Dan Godfrey and Richard Austin.
Lots of English and other vocalists - Peter Dawson, Frank Titterton, Roy
Henderson, Dennis Noble, Webster Booth, George Baker, Malcolm McEachern,
Alfred Piccaver, Marjorie Lawrence, Gigli, Tauber, Tom Burke, and pianists
Maurice Cole, Wilfrid Worden, Mark Hambourg, Valentin Georghiu.
There are probably others I haven't found yet!
Matthew B. Tepper
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Again, many thanks for your offerings! Would you by any chance have a scan
of the front cover of this World Records release? (I've become a big fan of
the "Cover Flow" feature in iTunes, and I like to include them if possible.)
vhorowitz
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> Again, many thanks for your offerings! Would you by any chance have a scan
> of the front cover of this World Records release? (I've become a big fan of
> the "Cover Flow" feature in iTunes, and I like to include them if possible.)
>
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Sure, I'll do that later (tonight?) when I have a chance......I think
the 4th Symphony cover is more interesting than the double lp w/ the
6th, so I'll do that one. Glad you've enjoyed it!
Neal
Matthew B. Tepper
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> On May 31, 1:38 pm, "Matthew B. Tepper" <oy兀earthlink.net> wrote:
>> vhorowitz <vladhorow...@hotmail.com> appears to have caused the
>> following letters to be typed in news:dc235620-6f92-477e-b092-
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>> Again, many thanks for your offerings! Would you by any chance have a
>> scan of the front cover of this World Records release? (I've become a
>> big fan of the "Cover Flow" feature in iTunes, and I like to include
>> them if possible.)
>
> Sure, I'll do that later (tonight?) when I have a chance......I think
> the 4th Symphony cover is more interesting than the double lp w/ the
> 6th, so I'll do that one. Glad you've enjoyed it!
Even more thanks! I hope I didn't sound ungrateful in any way; your scan of
the back cover was very helpful for the notes and recording information.
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vhorowitz
> vhorowitz <vladhorow...@hotmail.com> appears to have caused the following
>
> > On May 31, 1:38 pm, "Matthew B. Tepper" <oyþ@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> vhorowitz <vladhorow...@hotmail.com> appears to have caused the
> >> following letters to be typed in news:dc235620-6f92-477e-b092-
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>
> >> Again, many thanks for your offerings! Would you by any chance have a
> >> scan of the front cover of this World Records release? (I've become a
> >> big fan of the "Cover Flow" feature in iTunes, and I like to include
> >> them if possible.)
>
> > Sure, I'll do that later (tonight?) when I have a chance......I think
> > the 4th Symphony cover is more interesting than the double lp w/ the
> > 6th, so I'll do that one. Glad you've enjoyed it!
>
> Even more thanks! I hope I didn't sound ungrateful in any way; your scan of
> the back cover was very helpful for the notes and recording information.
>
> --
> Matthew B. Tepper: WWW, science fiction, classical music, ducks!
> My main music page ---http://home.earthlink.net/~oy/berlioz.html
> To write to me, do for my address what Androcles did for the lion
> Opinions expressed here are not necessarily those of my employers
No problem.......it's kind of a goofy cover......and here it is!
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4307/schneevoigtfrontcoverib1.jpg
Meanwhile, I'm working on some Concert Hall Society LPs.....I found a
cache of 30 of these suckers at my local Half Price Books for.........
25 cents each!! They're even in good shape for these often nasty red
vinyl pressings. If anyone has any particular wants let me
know.....as soon as I can figure out how to center the darned thing,
the Pascal Qrt Tchaikovsky Op. 30 is one I'd like to do, and maybe the
Beethoven Op. 16 Quintet in the string arrangement (adding Balsam) as
a coupling.
Cheers,
Neal
Matthew B. Tepper
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>> > On May 31, 1:38 pm, "Matthew B. Tepper" <oyş@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> vhorowitz <vladhorow...@hotmail.com> appears to have caused the
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>> >> Again, many thanks for your offerings! Would you by any chance have a
>> >> scan of the front cover of this World Records release? (I've become a
>> >> big fan of the "Cover Flow" feature in iTunes, and I like to include
>> >> them if possible.)
>>
>> > Sure, I'll do that later (tonight?) when I have a chance......I think
>> > the 4th Symphony cover is more interesting than the double lp w/ the
>> > 6th, so I'll do that one. Glad you've enjoyed it!
>>
>> Even more thanks! I hope I didn't sound ungrateful in any way; your scan
>> of the back cover was very helpful for the notes and recording
>> information.
>
> No problem.......it's kind of a goofy cover......and here it is!
>
> http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4307/schneevoigtfrontcoverib1.jpg
Goofy-looking indeed, and thanks yet again -- I vaguely remember seeing this
one turn up every now and then in the used LP bins at Moe's Books in Berkeley
back in the 1970s!
> Meanwhile, I'm working on some Concert Hall Society LPs.....I found a cache
> of 30 of these suckers at my local Half Price Books for......... 25 cents
> each!! They're even in good shape for these often nasty red vinyl
> pressings. If anyone has any particular wants let me know.....as soon as I
> can figure out how to center the darned thing, the Pascal Qrt Tchaikovsky
> Op. 30 is one I'd like to do, and maybe the Beethoven Op. 16 Quintet in the
> string arrangement (adding Balsam) as a coupling.
For a real challenge, try centering a 45 RPM disc without a hole adapter!
(For those of you under 35, that was the old format for singles, usually pop
recordings, on 7" discs with a silver-dollar-sized hole in the middle, and
*please* don't tell me I have to explain what a silver dollar was!)
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harpsichordian
> Sibelius:
> Symphony No. 4 in A Minor, Op. 63
> Symphony No. 6 in D Minor, Op. 104
> Luonnotar (with Helmi Liukkonen, Soprano)
>
> Georg Schneevoigt, conductor
> Finnish National Orchestra
> June 4, 1934, live performance in London (4th Sym. & Luonnotar)
> World Records Sh 237 (1976)
> June, 1934 (EMI studio recording)
I'm a little bit late to the party here (I was out of town last week),
but thanks so much for these! Once upon a time, I had the Sibelius
Society set that had the Schneevoigt No. 6 along with the Budapest
Quartet's "Voces intimae," and I wish I still did. Thanks to you, I
now have half of it again, plus more Schneevoigt Sibelius I never even
knew existed.
Does anyone out there know whether that 1933 Budapest "Voces intimae"
has ever made it to CD?
Best wishes,
Bryan Bishop
Matthew B. Tepper
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Biddulph LAB 098, with Grieg #1 and Wolf Italian Serenade, a lovely disc,
although I'd love to hear what MO-T could get from it nowadays.
harpsichordian
> Biddulph LAB 098, with Grieg #1 and Wolf Italian Serenade, a lovely disc,
> although I'd love to hear what MO-T could get from it nowadays.
Zoinks....and we all know how easy it is to obtain these out-of-print
Biddulphs, don't we?!? (Although I am a little heartened by the
reconstituted Biddulph's reissuing of certain items from its back
catalog, I'm not holding my breath for this one!)
Best wishes,
Bryan Bishop
vhorowitz
Might be easier than you think! I have a copy.......seeing that it's
OOP, and when I last asked, Ward felt it was ok to share some of the
Biddulphs that he did, if he has no immediate plans to redo them.
I'll double check on this, but it should be ok.
Neal