Michael Finnissy's homage to Scriabin

Mandryka

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Oct 11, 2022, 2:34:47 PM10/11/22

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWVHyijSAMw&t=254s&ab_channel=JaredRedmond

I just think that this captures the eroticism of Scriabin's music really well.

Dan Koren

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Oct 11, 2022, 3:35:33 PM10/11/22

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On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 11:34:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWVHyijSAMw&t=254s&ab_channel=JaredRedmond
>
> I just think that this captures the eroticism of Scriabin's music really well.

This captures it even better:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/v8lejdihkd8uh43/AABa9d6mcmMWwNzGECVjN-c4a?dl=0

dk

HT

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Oct 11, 2022, 6:17:54 PM10/11/22

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Op dinsdag 11 oktober 2022 om 21:35:33 UTC+2 schreef dan....@gmail.com:

Many thanks for the download!

Henk

Mandryka

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Oct 12, 2022, 12:42:11 PM10/12/22

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I have a theory about Scriabin pianists in the sonatas. Girls are better than boys. They get in touch with the voluptuous roundness, the moist melon-ness, of the music better than the thrusting bucking boys. Okashiro. Loredo.

Dan Koren

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Oct 12, 2022, 8:09:00 PM10/12/22

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On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 9:42:11 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
>
> I have a theory about Scriabin pianists in the sonatas.

You seem to have theories about anything and everything!

> Girls are better than boys.

Some are, some aren't. It would be rather difficult to argue
any pianist is "better" than Sofronitsky, Zhukov or Margulis
in the Scriabin sonatas.

> They get in touch with the voluptuous roundness, the
> moist melon-ness, of the music better than the thrusting
> bucking boys.

There is a lot more to Scriabin's music than "voluptuous
roundness"

> Okashiro. Loredo.

Okashiro is good , and so is Yuki Matsuzawa. Laredo is
not even in the game at all. Maria Letberg is disapointing

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrIRbytwpAMnQSidTaFY1MAnf_I2jXcS8

HJ Lim has recorded only 4 and 5, and performed no 10
live in Dublin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r-ztMFCw0g

They are all superb.

And then there's Richter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUYwDXk0vvA

Enjoy!

dk

Mandryka

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Oct 13, 2022, 12:44:30 AM10/13/22

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Has anyone here heard Okashiro’s Prometheus transcription?

Dan Koren

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Oct 13, 2022, 1:42:33 AM10/13/22

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On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 9:44:30 PM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
>
> Has anyone here heard Okashiro’s
> Prometheus transcription?

Yes -- why?

dk

Dan Koren

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Oct 13, 2022, 1:50:11 AM10/13/22

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Having been terrorized by Herman for praising and
recommending performances by long haired Asian
women pianists, I refrain from stating a personal
opinion. Check the reviews on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Scriabin-Prometheus-Transcription-Okashiro-Recording/product-reviews/B09PC4Y7WT/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_btm?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews

dk

Mandryka

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Oct 13, 2022, 3:48:15 AM10/13/22

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The problem is that it’s really expensive to import into the UK, they can seemingly randomly decide to impose a duty at the border, and if they do, it’s not so much the duty which is annoyingly expensive, but the administration charge they levy. However the reviews on Amazon.com, even Myron Silberstein’s, make me very tempted.

Dan Koren

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Oct 13, 2022, 4:00:32 AM10/13/22

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I would be happy to send you one, wrapped in a brown
bag marked "birthday gift" or "review copy" or whatever
you like with a declared value of no more than tu'ppence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk23s4hh8M8

I can send it to "Poste Restante" so you don't have to
reveal your address. Please contact me privately.

dk

Dan Koren

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Oct 13, 2022, 4:04:37 AM10/13/22

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I find it surprising the UK levies custom duties
on CDs. There is (or used to be) an international
postal convention that exempted books and music
recordings sent by mail from custom duties as long
as they were gifted or purchased for personal use.
Is that no longer the case?

dk

Mandryka

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Oct 13, 2022, 4:38:02 AM10/13/22

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That’s a kind offer, Dan. I’ve put my feelers out elsewhere and there may be an easier way. But thank you.

I’ve been reading Myron Silberstein’s reviews - he’s quite inspiring about music I’m very unfamiliar with. He has led me to Jerfi Afi’s Scriabin’s CD, which I’m listening to this morning.

Dan Koren

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Oct 13, 2022, 4:57:48 AM10/13/22

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On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 1:38:02 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
>
> That’s a kind offer, Dan. I’ve put my feelers out
> elsewhere and there may be an easier way. But
> thank you.

Nothing easier, the CD is already on its way! And
I can also digitize it and send you weightless bits.

https://www.postoffice.co.uk/mail/poste-restante

> I’ve been reading Myron Silberstein’s reviews - he’s
> quite inspiring about music I’m very unfamiliar with.

Just Prometheus, or Scriabin in general?

> He has led me to Jerfi Afi’s Scriabin’s CD, which I’m
> listening to this morning.

Jerfi Aji (not Afi) is no Scriabinist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkrEN3WYBzA

This is mediocre at best.

Why not go straight to the source first?

Compare with

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82DKeZXpSmI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvkkt4izxOQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UANg77DkO8A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ulreFAgJk8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMWx-F35awQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW6S_Oz4uag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0nrg7Lqfak

These people have, or had, Scriabin in their blood,
DNA and bone marrow.

Incidentally, the recently released set of Sofronitsky's
Complete Scriabin Recordings just surfaced on YT:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kl1RYxW1kG0V-sysZOmYKLlYeH7nW-8pY

Much to my surprise since new releases are usually
embargoed from YT for at least one year following
release.

dk

Mandryka

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Oct 13, 2022, 4:59:49 AM10/13/22

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On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 9:57:48 AM UTC+1, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 1:38:02 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> >
> > That’s a kind offer, Dan. I’ve put my feelers out
> > elsewhere and there may be an easier way. But
> > thank you.
> Nothing easier, the CD is already on its way! And
> I can also digitize it and send you weightless bits.
>
> https://www.postoffice.co.uk/mail/poste-restante
> > I’ve been reading Myron Silberstein’s reviews - he’s
> > quite inspiring about music I’m very unfamiliar with.
> Just Prometheus, or Scriabin in general?
> > He has led me to Jerfi Afi’s Scriabin’s CD, which I’m
> > listening to this morning.
> Jerfi Aji (not Afi) is no Scriabinist:
>

> dk

Yes I agree with you about Jerfi Aji!

Dan Koren

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Oct 13, 2022, 5:03:45 AM10/13/22

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On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 1:59:49 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 9:57:48 AM UTC+1, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Jerfi Aji (not Afi) is no Scriabinist:
>

> Yes I agree with you about Jerfi Aji!

Thank you! To play Scriabin really as
it should be played one must be crazy
to a degree most musicians never can
be. ;-)

dk

Mandryka

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Oct 13, 2022, 5:26:30 AM10/13/22

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I didn't know this one existed -- Cortot with a Scriabin etude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H7gORRJY7g&ab_channel=Beckmesser2

Mandryka

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Oct 13, 2022, 5:33:35 AM10/13/22

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And Sofro on Scriabin's piano

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oVjXDOJgFk&t=270s&ab_channel=auticre

Dan Koren

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Oct 13, 2022, 5:45:53 AM10/13/22

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On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 2:33:35 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> And Sofro on Scriabin's piano
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oVjXDOJgFk&t=270s&ab_channel=auticre

Well known and famous.
Sofronitsky was Scriabin's
son-in-law. He practiced on
that instrument! ;-)

dk

Dan Koren

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Oct 13, 2022, 5:47:19 AM10/13/22

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On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 2:26:30 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> I didn't know this one existed -- Cortot with a Scriabin etude.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H7gORRJY7g&ab_channel=Beckmesser2

Well known!

Here's Gieseking too:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=scriabin+gieseking

For pianists, Scriabin is pure catnip! ;-)

dk

JohnGavin

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Oct 13, 2022, 6:08:43 AM10/13/22

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In my opinion Horowitz practically owns the 10th Sonata. It’s one of his greatest performances of all time! If Scriabin is about sensuality, late Scriabin is equally about occultism. I don’t know if women are generally better at conveying this type of atmosphere. Sorry to have to say that Ruth Laredo cannot be considered among the top rung of Scriabin. Also, Sviatoslav Richter‘s mono Moscow Conservatory performance of Sonata No. 6 is magic and I’ve never heard it surpassed for my taste.

Mandryka

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Oct 13, 2022, 7:25:52 AM10/13/22

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The Richter is unlistenable isn't it? Because of the sound.

I think much of Scriabin's piano music is many things -- sensual, contrapuntal, mystical. What I think the women do -- including Laredo in sonata 6 for example -- is catch the sensual side, which appeals to me at the moment. I'm, not saying all women Scriabin players do this!

HT

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Oct 13, 2022, 10:35:59 AM10/13/22

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> Jerfi Aji (not Afi) is no Scriabinist:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkrEN3WYBzA

It's wellrounded and voluptuous!

> Compare with
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82DKeZXpSmI
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvkkt4izxOQ
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UANg77DkO8A
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ulreFAgJk8
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMWx-F35awQ
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW6S_Oz4uag
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0nrg7Lqfak

The last link is by far the most interesting.

> Incidentally, the recently released set of Sofronitsky's
> Complete Scriabin Recordings just surfaced on YT:
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kl1RYxW1kG0V-sysZOmYKLlYeH7nW-8pY

Thanks for the link!

Henk

Dan Koren

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Oct 13, 2022, 10:45:59 AM10/13/22

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On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 7:35:59 AM UTC-7, hvt...@xs4all.nl wrote:
>
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0nrg7Lqfak
>
> The last link is by far the most interesting.

Because he took off his jacket ?!?

dk

Mandryka

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Oct 13, 2022, 11:01:00 AM10/13/22

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You're a russianpianistophile!

Dan Koren

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Oct 13, 2022, 11:06:08 AM10/13/22

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> You're a russianpianistophile!

Not really. As pointed out earlier, many
of them were actually Ukrainian and/or
Jewish.

dk

Mandryka

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Oct 13, 2022, 11:32:27 AM10/13/22

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Ah.

Here’s a pianist I’ve never come across before, Stanislav Igolinskiy. I’m just listening to random Scriabin recordings and this one has caught my attention

https://open.spotify.com/artist/3tRSo7dPEFW1qmx6Dfrgjg

HT

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Oct 13, 2022, 1:06:10 PM10/13/22

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Op donderdag 13 oktober 2022 om 16:45:59 UTC+2 schreef dan....@gmail.com:

In a sense. Just listen to the opening bars. Horowitz is the only one who is interested in more than just make the right sound.

Henk

HT

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Oct 13, 2022, 1:11:10 PM10/13/22

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> Here’s a pianist I’ve never come across before, Stanislav Igolinskiy. I’m just listening to random Scriabin recordings and this one has caught my attention
>
> https://open.spotify.com/artist/3tRSo7dPEFW1qmx6Dfrgjg

He did very well in Brussels in 1975: second prize. Faerman got first prize.

Henk

Dan Koren

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Oct 13, 2022, 2:35:25 PM10/13/22

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Brussels was probably the reason
neither of them got much notice.

Faerman recorded the Paganini
Vars for DG and received good
reviews:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH_D2aquidQ&list=OLAK5uy_mvdWshDa2eMQL3QCZjSfL5U87ODMxt-no

He does not seem to have made
any recordings since winning the
Liz prize. Here is a Chopin Etudes
cycle straight from the competition.

Henk, did you hear him at the Liz?

dk

HT

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Oct 13, 2022, 3:10:03 PM10/13/22

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e does not seem to have made
> any recordings since winning the
> Liz prize. Here is a Chopin Etudes
> cycle straight from the competition.
>
> Henk, did you hear him at the Liz?
>
> dk

Yes, I did follow the competition closely that year. It was Egorov's year. Egorov's ended behind Faerman and Igolinsky - and deservedly so, imo.
It seems that Igolinsky also participated in the Tchaikovsky of 1974 - and got 2nd prize.

Henk

raymond....@gmail.com

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Oct 13, 2022, 4:35:24 PM10/13/22

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On Thursday, 13 October 2022 at 22:25:52 UTC+11, Mandryka wrote:
> On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 11:08:43 AM UTC+1, JohnGavin wrote:

The phrase that comes to mind with regards to Scriabin, is lurid decadence slathered in deep scarlet. Of course, I am referring to his orchestral works especially.

Ray Hall, Taree

Dan Koren

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Oct 13, 2022, 6:09:16 PM10/13/22

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On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 12:10:03 PM UTC-7, hvt...@xs4all.nl wrote:
> e does not seem to have made
> > any recordings since winning the
> > Liz prize. Here is a Chopin Etudes
> > cycle straight from the competition.
> >
> > Henk, did you hear him at the Liz?
>

> Yes, I did follow the competition closely
> that year. It was Egorov's year. Egorov's
> ended behind Faerman and Igolinsky -

You shouldn't have watched
-- you spooked him! ;-)

dk

Dan Koren

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Oct 13, 2022, 6:12:53 PM10/13/22

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On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 1:35:24 PM UTC-7, raymond....@gmail.com wrote:
>
> The phrase that comes to mind with regards to
> Scriabin, is lurid decadence slathered in deep
> scarlet. Of course, I am referring to his orchestral
> works especially.

What does "decadence" mean?
Are you speaking in tongues? ;-)

To my ears, "decadence" means
Parsifal and Tristan. Not only
decadent but also obscene.

Compared to Wagner Scriabin
was a very healthy person.

dk

MickeyBoy

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Oct 13, 2022, 6:15:08 PM10/13/22

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On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 4:47:19 AM UTC-5, dan....@gmail.com wrote:

> Here's Gieseking too:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=scriabin+gieseking
>
> For pianists, Scriabin is pure catnip! ;-)
>
> dk

In response to the Gieseking video and its nicely strange seque3nce of famous paintings, I'd like to make a few comments. First, for those like Mandryka and me, the sensuality is paramount. The rapid banging is confusing, episodes confusing the overall progression. The paintings portrayed don't seem to correspond ot the music. I would prefer to see a few lithographs of Odilon Redon instead. Perhaps just one of the many presenting the growth of a germ or seed. Or perhaps just one at the end giving something to savor on the tips of our musical and visual tongue. The black-and-white of the lithographs corresponds very well to Scriabine's chromaticisms, n'est-ce pas?

Second, recommendations for performances of the sonatas & etudes. Btb, I find M. Cortot's etude just as superb as expected. I still remember buying an MK lp in the 1960s or so and being gobsmacked by Richter's etudes.

raymond....@gmail.com

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Oct 13, 2022, 6:25:45 PM10/13/22

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On Friday, 14 October 2022 at 09:12:53 UTC+11, dan....gmail.com wrote:

> On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 1:35:24 PM UTC-7, raymond....gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > The phrase that comes to mind with regards to
> > Scriabin, is lurid decadence slathered in deep
> > scarlet. Of course, I am referring to his orchestral
> > works especially.
> What does "decadence" mean?
> Are you speaking in tongues? ;-)

As per duckionary,
decadence = moral or cultural decline as characterized by excessive indulgence in pleasure or luxury.

> To my ears, "decadence" means
> Parsifal and Tristan. Not only
> decadent but also obscene.
>
> Compared to Wagner Scriabin
> was a very healthy person.

I am not sure about this. I like Wagnerian chunks sans les voices. I even have two Ring cycles I haven't listened to yet.

Ray Hall, Taree

Dan Koren

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Oct 13, 2022, 7:06:59 PM10/13/22

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On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 3:25:45 PM UTC-7, raymond....@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, 14 October 2022 at 09:12:53 UTC+11, dan....gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 1:35:24 PM UTC-7, raymond....gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > The phrase that comes to mind with regards to
> > > Scriabin, is lurid decadence slathered in deep
> > > scarlet. Of course, I am referring to his orchestral
> > > works especially.
> >
> > What does "decadence" mean?
> > Are you speaking in tongues? ;-)
>
> As per duckionary,
> decadence = moral or cultural decline as characterized
> by excessive indulgence in pleasure or luxury.

Any evidence Scriabin indulged in
excessive in pleasure or luxury?

> > To my ears, "decadence" means
> > Parsifal and Tristan. Not only
> > decadent but also obscene.
> >
> > Compared to Wagner Scriabin
> > was a very healthy person.
>
> I am not sure about this.

Information about Dick's life is plentiful.
Anyone unsure about his mental health
should refer to one of his biographies.

> I like Wagnerian chunks sans les voices.

Even the brass flush? ;-)

> I even have two Ring cycles I haven't
> listened to yet.

Only reinforces my case.

dk

Dan Koren

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Oct 14, 2022, 2:58:49 AM10/14/22

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On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 1:00:32 AM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 12:48:15 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> >
> > The problem is that it’s really expensive to import into the UK,
> > they can seemingly randomly decide to impose a duty at the
> > border, and if they do, it’s not so much the duty which is
> > annoyingly expensive, but the administration charge they
> > levy. However the reviews on Amazon.com, even Myron
> > Silberstein’s, make me very tempted.
>
> I would be happy to send you one, wrapped in a brown
> bag marked "birthday gift" or "review copy" or whatever
> you like with a declared value of no more than tu'ppence.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk23s4hh8M8
>
> I can send it to "Poste Restante" so you don't have to
> reveal your address. Please contact me privately.

Your Scriabin CD just landed. I can send it packed
inside a book and mark the package as "books --
exempt from customs duties per international
postal convention", and mail it at book rate.

This will not only save some money on shipping
and avoid custom duties, but also protect the CD .

Please let me know how to proceed. I would be
happy to send it "Poste Restante" addressed to
a post office convenient to you. Please contact
me privately for details.

Cheers,

dk

Mandryka

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Oct 14, 2022, 3:51:00 AM10/14/22

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I’m enjoying Demidenko’s Scriabin this morning - it’s on a recording with Prokofiev. I like the whole recording very much - the Scriabin and the Visions Fugitives.

Dan Koren

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Oct 14, 2022, 4:52:37 AM10/14/22

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Demidenko is good.

dk

JohnGavin

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Oct 14, 2022, 10:12:28 AM10/14/22

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Yes, certainly his best recordings are outstanding. Someone informed me that he is now heavily involved in academia.

JohnGavin

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Oct 14, 2022, 6:31:18 PM10/14/22

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Another underrated pianist is Hakon Austbo. Did a survey of his recordings of Scriabin, Grieg, Messiaen, Ravel and Chopin. Very much liked all of them. Full bodied sonority always - generous and skillful pedaling. In the Regards he is the opposite of Chamayou with his clear sec archetypical French approach.

Dan Koren

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Oct 14, 2022, 9:34:41 PM10/14/22

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On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 3:31:18 PM UTC-7, JohnGavin wrote:
>
> Another underrated pianist is Hakon Austbo.

Yes.

> Did a survey of his recordings of Scriabin, Grieg, Messiaen,
> Ravel and Chopin. Very much liked all of them. Full bodied
> sonority always - generous and skillful pedaling.

All outstanding.

Scandinavian pianists do not get all the notice they deserve.
Add Matti Raekkalio, Dag Achatz, Izumi Tateno and Ronald
Pontinen to the liszt. Also Antti Siirala. Why do the Finns
need so many double consonants?

dk

Al Eisner

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Oct 15, 2022, 4:51:02 PM10/15/22

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How can purely-instrumental music be dacadent, unless you are indulging
in extra-musical association?
--
Al Eisner

raymond....@gmail.com

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Oct 15, 2022, 8:01:05 PM10/15/22

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On Sunday, 16 October 2022 at 07:51:02 UTC+11, Al Eisner wrote:

A little bit why some music is used in horror movies, some music is austere, some is happy, some sad. Of course extra-musical association comes into it, by previous association with different types of music.

"The novel use of semitonal adjacencies gave easy access to (formerly) exotic or recondite harmonies and tonal relations. Ultimately they became commonplace, hence no longer exotic or recondite: the extraordinary, so to speak, became ordinary. And that is a fine way of approaching musically the notoriously slippery term and concept of “decadence.”" (author Richard Taruskin.)

The idea of decadent music – for which read aesthetically inferior, formally flawed, hyper-affective, morally 'bad', enervating, or corrupting in some way – has a long history, and examples of proto-decadent music can be found across cultures and historical periods. (Wiki)

The beginning of the 20th century ushered in a new phase of decadence, with Richard Strauss and Schoenberg creating musical examples.

For my simple brain, Scriabin can conjure up sleaze, particularly in his orchestral music, where brass instruments especially can conjure up bad excess and use.

Ray Hall, Taree

Mandryka

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Oct 16, 2022, 2:09:49 PM10/16/22

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Enjoying Austbø. Very delicate in sonata 2.

Mandryka

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Oct 17, 2022, 5:37:07 AM10/17/22

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Jonathan Powell complete Scriabin sonatas in concert, 12 November, Oxford (England, not Mississippi.)

Mandryka

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Oct 20, 2022, 1:34:11 PM10/20/22

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On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 1:09:00 AM UTC+1, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 9:42:11 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> >
> > I have a theory about Scriabin pianists in the sonatas.
> You seem to have theories about anything and everything!
> > Girls are better than boys.
> Some are, some aren't. It would be rather difficult to argue
> any pianist is "better" than Sofronitsky, Zhukov or Margulis
> in the Scriabin sonatas.
> > They get in touch with the voluptuous roundness, the
> > moist melon-ness, of the music better than the thrusting
> > bucking boys.
> There is a lot more to Scriabin's music than "voluptuous
> roundness"
>
> > Okashiro. Loredo.
>
> Okashiro is good , and so is Yuki Matsuzawa. Laredo is
> not even in the game at all. Maria Letberg is disapointing
>
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrIRbytwpAMnQSidTaFY1MAnf_I2jXcS8
>
> HJ Lim has recorded only 4 and 5, and performed no 10
> live in Dublin:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r-ztMFCw0g
>
> They are all superb.
>
> And then there's Richter:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUYwDXk0vvA
>
> Enjoy!
>
> dk
Thanks for these. I like the Lim and I will hear the Matsuzawa soon.

Dan Koren

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Oct 20, 2022, 3:07:48 PM10/20/22

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> Thanks for these. I like the Lim and I will hear the Matsuzawa soon.

AFAIK Matsuzawa has recorded only 3, 4 and 5,
filling up her recording of the Etudes op. 8. This
CD tends to spend much time in my Audi. It
helps improve my mileage by up to 30 mph.

dk

Mandryka

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Oct 22, 2022, 10:12:16 AM10/22/22

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I have two recordings of Sofronitsky playing the 8th sonata --one runs for 12.38 and the other, a late Scriabin Museum recording, runs for 13.12

We know he said he rethought how to play Chopin when he was ill -- it looks as though he rethought how to play Scriabin too.

Mandryka

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Oct 22, 2022, 3:41:57 PM10/22/22

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On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 8:35:33 PM UTC+1, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 11:34:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWVHyijSAMw&t=254s&ab_channel=JaredRedmond
> >
> > I just think that this captures the eroticism of Scriabin's music really well.
> This captures it even better:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/v8lejdihkd8uh43/AABa9d6mcmMWwNzGECVjN-c4a?dl=0
>
> dk

Tt's very kind of you to have uploaded these, Dan. Do you have a list of tracks for each recording?

Mandryka

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Oct 24, 2022, 7:44:00 AM10/24/22

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And thanks to Dan for putting me on to Yuki Matsuzawa. And not just her Scriabin. I have fallen in love with her Chopin etude op 25/7.I am a Matsuzawa op 27/7 addict, I can die happy. It's so elegant. So intelligent. That Chopopopin rag!

https://open.spotify.com/track/5Hhft...86a2f423384870

Dan Koren

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Oct 24, 2022, 1:50:47 PM10/24/22

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On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 12:41:57 PM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 8:35:33 PM UTC+1, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 11:34:47 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWVHyijSAMw&t=254s&ab_channel=JaredRedmond
> > >
> > > I just think that this captures the eroticism of Scriabin's music really well.
> > This captures it even better:
> >
> > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/v8lejdihkd8uh43/AABa9d6mcmMWwNzGECVjN-c4a?dl=0
>

> Tt's very kind of you to have uploaded these, Dan. Do you have a list of tracks for each recording?

These are now on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kl1RYxW1kG0V-sysZOmYKLlYeH7nW-8pY

I will remove my upload.

dk

Dan Koren

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Nov 2, 2022, 1:11:28 AM11/2/22

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On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 4:44:00 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
>
> I am a Matsuzawa op 27/7 addict, I can die happy.
> It's so elegant. So intelligent. That Chopopopin rag!
> https://open.spotify.com/track/5Hhft...86a2f423384870

I can't reach the Spotify URL you posted.

What is "op 27/7"? Typo? Did you mean
27/2? Chopin or Boring van Beethoven?

dk

Dan Koren

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Nov 2, 2022, 2:19:01 AM11/2/22

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I cannot find any reference to Matsuzawa
having recorded either Beethoven's 27/2
or Chopin's 27/2. Would you please post
a link?

Thanks!

dk

Dan Koren

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Nov 2, 2022, 2:22:20 AM11/2/22

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You have to be more specific.
There 26 Oxfords in the US,
2 in Canada, and one each
in OZ and NZ.

dk

Dan Koren

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Nov 2, 2022, 2:24:10 AM11/2/22

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On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 4:44:00 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
>

> And thanks to Dan for putting me on to Yuki Matsuzawa.
> And not just her Scriabin. I have fallen in love with her

> Chopin etude op 25/7. I am a Matsuzawa op 27/7 addict,

> I can die happy. It's so elegant. So intelligent.

Glad you like her. I have uploaded Matsuzawa's
Scriabin Etudes op. 8 and Sonatas 3, 4 and 5:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/ahem3m8zybuers0plmauc/h?dl=0&rlkey=b6hoe8ifvtzx6r9v7p3ax2de3

I will leave them there for 48 hours.

Enjoy!

dk

Mandryka

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Dec 15, 2022, 10:39:05 AM12/15/22

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBlfWK9Naso&list=PL7uG3nzjmyOBCNxzsS68YXgIzMXfRMGKu&index=9&ab_channel=ClassicalRarities

Pletnev, Moscow 2001, Scriabin sonata 4. Worth hearing.