Thanks,
R.Sauer
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> Looking for recommendations for Schubert's Die Schone Mullerin...
Schioetz/Moore (Preiser)
Patzak/Raucheisen (Preiser)
Pears/Britten (DECCA), though sometimes one might wish a easier and
more brilliant top ("Dein ist mein Herz" e. g.)
Regards
I love Wunderlich's on DG more than any other (I have only about 5 or 6
Schoener Muellerins all together). There are some live ones by him too,
but I don't know them.
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Thanks,
R.Sauer>>
Fritz Wunderlich-Hubert Giesen (DGG)
Aksel Schiotz/Gerald Moore on Danacord, among the greatest Lieder performances
ever recorded. This is one of my favorite recordings of anything, and has been
for about 30 years, since I first bought the Seraphim LP issue on a lark. No
other singer known to me, including Fischer-Dieskau, Prey, Wunderlich, Husch -
excellent though each of these is in some respects - comes close to Schiotz's
musicality and insight in this music. As I've said here before, just compare
each of these performers' versions of "Ungeduld," and you will see that
Schiotz's is the most beautiful and the most poetically insightful one. His
diction is also better than anyone else's, by the way.
This subject has come up before, and several other Lieder aficionados disagree
with me on this. You may want to run a Google search if these dissenters do not
speak up in this thread.
In some ways, comparing tenor and baritone versions of this cycle is fruitless,
since they make such different impressions on a listener. I would expect a
Quasthoff version of the cycle to be superb, based on his glorious
Schwanengesang. I'm sure he'll record it at some point.
Paul Goldstein
Pregardien/DHM, Holzmair/Tudor (better sung, more spontaneous than his
Philips remake), Fassbaender/DG, Bostridge/Hyperion, Wunderlich/DG,
de Mey/Ricercar (an odd choice which I doubt many would agree with) all
survived a recent ruthless cull, along with Schiotz (grudgingly). I may be
forgetting something, but I don't think so. If forced to choose just one, it
would be a toss-up between the first two with perhaps a nod to Pregardien
(which, of course, is of no use if you don't like fortepianos; likewise De Mey).
Simon
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> Aksel Schiotz on volume 2 of his complete recordings on Danacord.
Quite delightful but. . . I am not "left with a lot" afterwards,
emotionally, if that makes any sense.
regards,
SG
Richard Sauer wrote:
Schiotz
Souzay.
Philip.
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Beautifully sung, but I'm wondering if he really knew what he was singing
about.
Benjo Maso
I don't agree. Schiotz (my favorite) is often more suggesting than
emphasizing the emotional content, but at the end it's IMO much more
effective.
Benjo Maso
Me too. I like Wunderlich, but not in this. Ian Bostridge on Hyperion is
my favorite of the 5 or 6 I've heard.
Jim Paul
First of all, he clearly did, and secondly, I'm afraid it's just so
beautiful that I really wouldn't care if he didn't...
> Aksel Schiotz on volume 2 of his complete recordings on Danacord.
I have seen the Müllerin now several times recommended on
Danacord. Is it soundwise or else better than the Preiser CD (which
I have)?
Regards
It depends on how much of an upgrade is enough for you to justify duplication.
The Preiser is quite decent soundwise, but the Danacord is clearly better.
Also, Danacord's notes are superb, and include translations of relevant comments
by Schiotz himself on his approach to certain songs. AFAIK this is the first
time these comments have been available in English.
Paul Goldstein
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> >I have seen the Müllerin now several times recommended on
> >Danacord. Is it soundwise or else better than the Preiser CD (which
> >I have)?
>
> It depends on how much of an upgrade is enough for you to justify duplication.
> The Preiser is quite decent soundwise, but the Danacord is clearly better.
> Also, Danacord's notes are superb, and include translations of relevant comments
> by Schiotz himself on his approach to certain songs. AFAIK this is the first
> time these comments have been available in English.
Thank you!
Regards
I have not heard the Preiser. The Danacord sounds fine to me.
AB
Here are some (all tenors, and why not?):
Peter Schreier (Decca)
Ian Partridge (CFP)
Josef Protschka (Capriccio)
Peter Pears (Decca)
Fritz Wunderlich (DGG) - a little immature in interpretation, but what a singer!
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Terry
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I imprinted on Fischer-Dieskau/Moore from 1961 and it's still my
favorite; however, it is really better to have a tenor in this cycle.
Schiotz/Moore would be my first choice, followed (somewhat distantly)
by Rainer Trost or Werner Guera. A very interesting version is Peter
Schreier with Konrad Ragossnig playing the guitar.
Celia
Celia A. Sgroi
State University of New York
College at Oswego
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> I imprinted on Fischer-Dieskau/Moore from 1961 and it's still my
> favorite;
Among the baritone versions, my favorite is Hagegard's.
> however, it is really better to have a tenor in this cycle.
> Schiotz/Moore would be my first choice, followed (somewhat distantly)
> by Rainer Trost or Werner Guera.
Those would be my choices, too, but I'd add Ian Partridge, and
Wunderlich for sheer vocal beauty. Speaking of sheer vocal beauty,
I'd also recommend Georgi Vinogradov's version in Russian, if it were
available.
> A very interesting version is Peter
> Schreier with Konrad Ragossnig playing the guitar.
Schreier recorded the cycle three other times, with Olbertz (1971),
Zehr (1980ish), and Schiff (1989). There's not a lot to choose
between them with respect to Schreier, who's pretty consistent over
the eighteen year span. If anything, he's drier of voice on the first
one, but that may be the fault of the recording. Although Schiff is
the best of the pianists, the recording with Zehr uses a fortepiano,
and the recorded sound is slightly more flattering to Schreier's
voice.
Bill