recommendations: Brahms "double concerto"
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Matthew B. Tepper
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> What recording to people recommend?
Oistrakh, Rostropovich, Szell/Cleveland Orchestra.
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Edward A. Cowan
> What recording to people recommend?
Heifetz, Piatigorsky, cond. Wallenstein on BMG/RCA.
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Rob Barnett
Rose and Ormandy. The balance is rather forward to the point of aggression.
I know quite a few different versions of this work and none has the sheer
passion and attack of the Leonard Rose and Stern version - I must say that I
would very much like to hear the Francescatti/Miller/Walter version but that
is a pleasure to come.
extract from CMOTW review
Taking the Double Concerto first, Leonard Rose endows the work with
eloquence and a surfeit of the most glorious tone. One of the finest
cellists in America you cannot doubt his fiery application, his lyric
'stickiness' and smoky passion all intensified by the close-miked recording.
Rather like Yo Yo Ma's pizzicati in the finale of the Finzi Cello Concerto
(a Lyrita LP from 1979) Rose's pizzicati are imperiously loud. It matters
nothing that you would never hear the music like this in a concert hall.
Each melodic 'collision' with Stern is assuredly calculated in its ecstatic
chordal effect. The music is always phrased with a warmth too hot to rest
your hand on. Stern is brilliant and his unanimity with Rose is, without
doubt, down to their trio work with Eugene Istomin for which the foundations
were laid in Casals' Prades Festivals.
Rob
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John Myerscough
Naxos Historical. Very good sound.
This performance is imo one of the most breathtaking performances of
anything on record. It may not be the most poetic account but the way
Feuermann rises to Heifetz's technical standards is astonishing. Take, for
example, the great melody of the slow movement. Heifetz does it all up the G
string, so Feuermann does aswell. No mean feat!
I would also recommend the Francescati-Fournier-Walter recording on Sony (I
think that is the combination?). This is a completely different reading,
much more relaxed and it perhaps suits the character of the work better.
However, hear the Heifetz-Feuermann version and you will never look at the
cello and violin in the same way again!
yours,
John
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vaneyes
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>What recording do people recommend?
Probably every recording of.
I suggest Oistrakh/Rostropovich/Szell.
Regards
Philip Peters
Rob Barnett wrote:
> I very strongly recommend the SONY Essential Classics version with Stern,
> Rose and Ormandy. The balance is rather forward to the point of aggression.
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> I know quite a few different versions of this work and none has the sheer
> passion and attack of the Leonard Rose and Stern version - I must say that I
> would very much like to hear the Francescatti/Miller/Walter version but that
> is a pleasure to come.
]I am confused. Shouldn't that be Francescatti/Fournier/Walter? As opposed to
Mischakoff/Miller/Toscanini?
Philip
John Gavin
and I second the Heifetz / Feurermann and
Heifetz/ Piatagorsky
Brian Park
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> Oistrakh, Rostropovich, Szell/Cleveland Orchestra.
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Seconded.
Brian Park
Brian Cantin
Schneiderhan/Starker/Friscay on DG.
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Roberto Poli
I assume you are talking about the double concerto, considering the
performers. I would be great if you specified what piece... :)
Best,
RP
Andrew See
> What recording to people recommend?
I am curious to hear what you all think about the
Thibaud/Casals/Cortot collaboration. I have only listen to this and
the Stern/Rose/Ormandy. I am not sure I like either of them, although
I like the former better than the latter.
Andrew
Matthew B. Tepper
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If one cares about such things, it probably has the highest correct-note
ratio of all of Cortot's recordings.
Frank Geck
Very difficult to find the right balance between the two soloists AND
between the soloists and the orchestra.
The soloists have to sound like a 8-string super violin, as a writer
on violin playing once wrote.
Gioconda de Vito and N.N. on a hard to find and expensive LP comes
close.
Another favorite of mine: Suk/Navarra
Regards,
Frank
Don Petter
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>> Oistrakh, Rostropovich, Szell/Cleveland Orchestra.
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Thirded. The opening of that slow movement ...
Don.
Philip Peters
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> Thibaud/Casals/Cortot collaboration.
A classic.
Phili
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Adrian Hunter
my first exposure to the concerto: the Starker/Schneiderhan/Fricsay.
Adrian
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Ramon Khalona
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> > What recording to people recommend?
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> Oistrakh, Rostropovich, Szell/Cleveland Orchestra.
Matthew et al., have you heard the orchestral contribution of
this in the last movement recently? Szell sounds, to me, as if he's
on drugs, increasing the tempo as if it were a horse race.
My recommendations would be Francescatti/Fournier/Walter and
then Schneiderhan/Starker/Fricsay (I imprinted on the latter).
Ramon Khalona
Markesten
from the rather overblown opening bars to the lousy themes in the last
movement. And they call Hindemith pedantic!
Maybe someone can enlighten me, but I find that this piece is simply
substandard Brahms and a substandard concerto.
Yes, the Oistrakh, Rostropovich Szell combo looks good on paper, but it's
another example of Szell's "studio fright" at its worst...plus congested sound.
BTW Ramon - Szell does speed up in the finale, as you've noted. Have you ever
noticed the slow down in the intro to the Brahms 1st Symphony on his Sony disc?
He starts out at a quickish tempo and almost immediately looses steam. Strange,
ain't it?
Simon Roberts
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>Matthew et al., have you heard the orchestral contribution of
>this in the last movement recently? Szell sounds, to me, as if he's
>on drugs, increasing the tempo as if it were a horse race.
Well, wouldn't you try to speed up if you started out so slowly?
Simon
Eric Schissel
Francescatti/Fournier/Walter for me (which I had coupled with
Istomin/Walter in the Schumann piano concerto, probably about 7 years ago
or so, on CBS CD.) Still remember that it was a wonderful performance.
-Eric Schissel
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Stephen North
Mutter/Meneses/Karajan - they don't try to make it sound like middle
aged baggy Brahms. Its is radical, late Brahms and they make it sound
like turn of the century music. Avoid the first issue on CD, go for
teh Karajan Gold edition which also has the Karajan/Mutter Violin
Concerto (which helps show teh contrast).
SN