Winterreise
Philip Peters
some members of this ng I post my list of Winterreise recordings. I am
still greedy for more and would like to get in touch with people who are
interested.
Miriam Abramawitsch & George Barth (1994) MC
Theo Adam & Rudolf Dunckel (1974) LP
Thomas Allen & Roger Vignoles (1991) CD
Peter Anders & Michael Raucheisen (1945) CD
Peter Anders & Guenther Weissenborn (1948) LP
Olaf Baer & Geoffrey Parsons (1989) CD
Jules Bastin & Ursula Kneihs (1981) LP
Ulf Baestlein & Stefan Laux (1995) MC
Hans Peter Blochwitz & Hans Zender + Ensemble Modern (1995) CD
Laurens Bogtman & Felix de Nobel (195.) MC
Jose van Dam & Dalton Baldwin (1990) CD
Anton & Hilda Dermota (1963) CD
Anton & Hilda Dermota (1976) LP
Carlo Desderi & Dino Ciani (1974) MC
Ronald Dowd & John Winther (1990) MC
Max van Egmond & Jos van Immerseel (1990) MC
Kurt Equiluz & Margit Fussi (1987) MC
Brigitte Fassbaender & Aribert Reimann (1990) CD
Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau & Klaus Billing (1948) MC
Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau & Hermann Reutter (1952) CD
Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau & Hertha Klust (1953) MC
Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau & Gerald Moore (1955) LP
Dietirch Fischer-Dieskau & Gerald Moore (1963) LP
Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau & Joerg Demus (1965) LP
Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau & Gerald Moore (1974) LP
Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau & Daniel Barenboim (1980) LP
Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau & Alfred Brendel (1985) CD
Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau & Murray Perahia (1992) CD
Shura Gehrman & Nina Walker 9199.) MC
Boris Gmyrya & Lev Ostrin (19..) MC (sung in Russian)
Matthias Goerne & Graham Johnson (1997) CD
Toshiro Gorobe & Tomoko Akada (1992) MC (sung in Japanese)
Ernst Haefliger & Joerg Ewald Dahler (1980) LP
Hakan Hagegard & Jan Eyron (1978) MC (sung in Swedish)
Hakan Hagegard & Thomas Schuback (1983) MC
Thomas Hampson & Wolfgang Sawallisch (1997) CD
Peter Hartling, Tabea Zimmermann & Harmut Hoell (1991) CD
Robert Holl & Konrad Richter (1980) LP
Robert Holl & Oleg Maisenberg (1988) MC
Robert Holl & Naum Grubert (1995) CD
Wolgang Holzmair & Imogen Cooper (1996) CD
Hans Hotter & Michael Raucheisen (1942-43) CD
Hans Hotter & Michael Raucheisen (1943) MC
Hans Hotter & Gerald Moore (1946-55) LP
Hans Hotter & Erik Werba (1962) LP
Hans Hotter & Hans Dokoupil (1969) MC
Gerhard Huesch & Hanns Udo Mueller (1933) LP
Jorma Hynninen & Ralf Gothoni (1980) MC
Jorma Hynninen & Ralf Gothoni (1983) MC
Georg Jelden & Hans Dieter Wagner (1974) LP
Rudolf Knoll & Hugo Steurer (1990) CD
Fernand Koenig & Maria Bergmann (197.) LP
Tom Krause & Hustav Djupsjoebacka (1993) CD
Bernard Kruysen & Gerard van Blerk (1993) CD
Tiit Kuusik & Valdur Roots (1977) MC
Lotte Lehmann & Paul Ulanovsky (1940-41) MC
Arthur Loosli & Karl Grenacher (19989) MC
Siegfried Lorenz & Norman Shetler (198.) MC
Christa Ludwig & Erik Werba (1980) MC (Salzburg)
Christa Ludwig & James Levine (1988) MC
Benjamin Luxon & David Willison (1990) MC
Lois Marshall & Anton Kuerti (1978) MC
Kurt Moll & Cord Garben (197.) MC
Nic Moeller & Wim Statius Muller (1990) CD
Carl-Heinz Mueller & Helle Mueller-Thiemens (1988) MC
Wout Oosterkamp & Willem Brons (1996) MC
William Parker & Dalton Baldwin (1977) MC
Ian Partridge & Richard Burnett (1988) MC
Julius Patzak & Joerg Demus (195.) LP
Peter Pears & Benjamin Britten (1965) LP
Thomas Pfeiffer & Friedemann Rieger (1986) LP
Laszlo Polgar & Jan Schultz (1998) CD
Christoph Pregardien & Andreas Staier (1997) CD
Christoph Pregardien & Andreas Staier (1997) MC (London)
Hermann Prey & Karl Engel (1962) LP
Hermann Prey & Wolfgang Sawallisch (1971) LP
Hermann Prey & Irwin Gage (1978) CD
Hermann Prey & Philippe Bianconi (1984) MC
Thomas Quasthoff & Maria Joao Pires (1997) MC (Cologne)
Thomas Quasthoff & Charles Spencer (1998) CD
Thomas Quasthoff & Charles Spencer (1998) MC (London)
Heinz Rehfuss & unknown pianist (195.) MC
Udo Reinemann & Rudolf Jansen (1990) MC
Jan-Hendrik Rootering & Hermann Lechler (1991) CD
Marko Rothmuller & Suzanne Gyr (1945) MC
Herman Schey & Felix de Nobel (1966) LP
Andreas Schmidt & Rudolf Jansen (1992) CD
Karl Schmitt-Walter & Ferdinand Leitner (1943) LP
Benno Schollum & Graham Johnson (1995) MC
Michael Schopper & Andreas Staier (1989) CD
Stephan Schreckenberger & Bettina Rohrbeck (1994) CD
Peter Schreier & Svjatoslav Richter (1985) CD (Dresden)
Peter Schreier & Svjatoslav Richter (1985) MC (Moskou)
Peter Schreier & Andras Schiff (1994) CD
Mitsuko Shirai & Harmut Hoell (1991) CD
Gerard Souzay & Dalton Baldwin 91958) MC
Gerard Souzay & Dalton Baldwin (1963) LP
Gerard Souzay & Dalton Baldwin (1976) MC
Jakob Staempfli & Eke Mendez (1982) MC
Martti Talvela & Ralf Gothoni (1983) LP
Richard Tauber & Mischa Spoliansky (1927) LP (12 of 24 songs)
Zeger Vandersteene & Levente Kende (1989) CD
Jon Vickers & Geoffrey Parsons (1973) MC
Sarah Walker & Imogen Cooper (1991) MC
Bernd Weikl & Helmut Deutsch (1993) CD
Kurt Widmer & Rolf Junghans (1981) MC
Wim Zomer & Gerrit Schuil (1991) MC
Are you still there?
Philip Peters
Andy Evans
short sprint to the tape in the shape of a one to ten rank order of
favourites? I'm sure the bit of your advanced Winterreise brain we would
like to contact is your idea of the most rewarding sets to buy! Andy
Benjamin Maso
you will agree that a collection of Winterrreise-recordings can't be serious
without his 1996 recording with Ilkka Paananen on a Swedish or Finnish
branch of Naxos 8.554146 FST. And has Fischer-Dieskau made only ten
recordings? Hard to believe. Another serious gap is the live recording of
Brigitte Fassbaender with Marcus Hinterheuser, made in 1987 (I have it on
tape).
Benjo Maso
Philip Peters wrote in message <36C84006...@p-peters.demon.nl>...
Simon Roberts
[snip]
: Are you still there?
Yes; fascinated and grateful. I see, though, that you omitted Shura
Gehrman's English version; I can't imagine why that would have slipped
your mind....
Simon
Sara Freeman
writes:
>I was amazed to see you have only two recordings of Jorma Hynninen. I
hope
>you will agree that a collection of Winterrreise-recordings can't be
serious
>without his 1996 recording with Ilkka Paananen on a Swedish or Finnish
>branch of Naxos 8.554146 FST.
Gee, I'm going to look for this too. Hynninen is my favorite singer. I
thought I knew everything he ever recorded.
--
Dipsy: Hey, Tinky, why don't you show us
some of the magic you have in that
red bag?
Tinky: It's not magic. It's CRISCO.
Alrod
Josef Greindl & Hertha Klust DG 1957
reissued on Preiser CD 90128.
Much better than you have any right to expect. Perhaps the best bass
recording (after Hotter/Werba) and way ahead of Moll or Talvela.
Alrod
BANilsson
pianist Antonin Kubalek.
to e-mail properly, lose "lott"
samir ghiocel golescu
Yes, it is one of my favorites (I don't know *that* many). The
"Hurdy-Gurdy Man" is, BTW, somber and depressing. Where else 2 minutes of
music express so much?
SG
Monik...@bigfoot.de
collection: Francisco Araiza & Irvin Gage (1985, Hohenems, MC) Brigitte
Fassbaender & Markus Hinterhäuser (1987, Feldkirch, MC) Robert Holl & Konrad
Richter (1986, Hohenems, MC) Hans Hotter & Konrad Richter (1982, Hohenems,
MC) Christa Ludwig & Erik Werba (1986, Regensburg, MC) Hermann Prey &
Wolfgang Sawallisch (1971, Munich, MC) Thomas Quasthoff & Martin Galling
(1988, Munich Debut, MC) Peter Schreier & Andras Schiff (1988, Hohenems, MC)
Peter Schreier & Anthony Spiri (1985, Hohenems, MC)
A special is it with Fischer-Dieskau. There a more than 30 recordings only by
this great baritone.
Monika Wolf
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nfna...@NOSPAM.rocketmail.com (Alrod) wrote:
> Josef Greindl & Hertha Klust DG 1957
> reissued on Preiser CD 90128.
Also on a DGG "twofer", along with some Schubert and some classic Loewe
ballads. Not available in the USA, but I found a copy via
www.musicexpress.com.
Bill
William D. Kasimer
wk...@juno.com
wk...@juno.com
"Benjamin Maso" <benj...@euronet.nl> wrote:
> I was amazed to see you have only two recordings of Jorma Hynninen. I hope
> you will agree that a collection of Winterrreise-recordings can't be serious
> without his 1996 recording with Ilkka Paananen on a Swedish or Finnish
> branch of Naxos 8.554146 FST.
Aha! I saw this listed once on a new release sheet, and assumed that it had
to be a misprint. Any ideas for a source for this CD? I've never seen it in
the USA.
Philip Peters
Monik...@bigfoot.de schreef:
> I'm not a really collector of Winterreise, but there are also in my
> collection: Francisco Araiza & Irvin Gage (1985, Hohenems, MC) Brigitte
> Fassbaender & Markus Hinterhäuser (1987, Feldkirch, MC) Robert Holl & Konrad
> Richter (1986, Hohenems, MC) Hans Hotter & Konrad Richter (1982, Hohenems,
> MC) Christa Ludwig & Erik Werba (1986, Regensburg, MC) Hermann Prey &
> Wolfgang Sawallisch (1971, Munich, MC) Thomas Quasthoff & Martin Galling
> (1988, Munich Debut, MC) Peter Schreier & Andras Schiff (1988, Hohenems, MC)
> Peter Schreier & Anthony Spiri (1985, Hohenems, MC)
>
> A special is it with Fischer-Dieskau. There a more than 30 recordings only by
> this great baritone.
>
> Monika Wolf
Hi!
Ohmygosh! I am *green with envy* being a *freakish collector*. (better addicted
to Winterreise than to drugs or gambling though). Is there any hope that I can
persuade you to arrange some tape swapping with me? I have *lots* of other music
of course, vocal as well as instrumental, historical as well as contemporary.
These versions you mention seem to be radio recordings mostly and as such totally
unavailable. It makes my heart beat faster ....
Best regards, Philip
Benjamin Maso
wk...@juno.com wrote in message <7ad9f9$u4h$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
hope
>> you will agree that a collection of Winterrreise-recordings can't be
serious
>> without his 1996 recording with Ilkka Paananen on a Swedish or Finnish
>> branch of Naxos 8.554146 FST.
>
had
>to be a misprint. Any ideas for a source for this CD? I've never seen it
in
>the USA.
I've never seen the CD in a regular shop, and bought it second store in
Amsterdam. The label is called "TELE yhdistamme" , which seems Finnish to
me. However, in small print we can read also the name Naxos, although it
looks quite different from all the other Naxos-CD's. On the cover can be
read: "Ei jalleenmyyntiin" and "Ej till forsaljning", which means "Not for
resale", as you undoubtedly know. The year of release is 1996. The German
text of the sonmgs is printed in the booklet, with a translation in Finnish.
So I know now that Der Leiermann is in Helsinki known as
"Posetiivinsoittaja" (might come in handy).
regards,
Benjo Maso
Dan Koren
Philip Peters <phi...@p-peters.demon.nl> wrote:
>At the risk of taking up too much bandwith but also at the request of
>some members of this ng I post my list of Winterreise recordings. I am
>still greedy for more and would like to get in touch with people who are
>interested.
[... long list snipped ...]
And which one(s) do you like best?
dk
Philip Peters
Dan Koren wrote:
I am not much interested in lists containing someone's ideas about wat is
*best*. I enjoy different interpretations for different reasons.
But here are some I never would want to be without (and I'll try to make it a
short list):
Anders/Weissenborn
Dermota/Dermota (their first time around, 1963)
Dieskau/Demus (but the Dieskau/Moore of 1963 comes close)
Holl/Grubert
Hotter/Moore
Huesch/Mueller
Lehmann/Ulanovsky
Ludwig/Werba (not a commercial recording)
Patzak/Demus
Pears/Britten
Prey/Bianconi
Quasthoff/Spencer
Schey/De Nobel
Schreier/Richter
Souzay/Baldwin (1958)
Tauber/Spolinasky (only half the cycle but still...)
It's a long list after all. I can't choose really. If I were to take *one*
recording with me to the notorious desert island it would probably be
Schey's.
Philip
HenryFogel
>From: Philip Peters <phi...@p-peters.demon.nl>
>Date: 2/D/YYYY 7:19 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <36CEB66E...@p-peters.demon.nl>
It's a good list, but for me omits a central recording -- the 1980 recording by
Jorma Hynninen and Rolf Gothoni (on Fuga LPs). I find that a performance that
is deeply moving and beautifully sung. And Gothoni's piano playing is a major
contributor as well.
Henry Fogel
wk...@juno.com
Philip Peters <phi...@p-peters.demon.nl> wrote:
> But here are some I never would want to be without (and I'll try to make it a
> short list):
>
> Anders/Weissenborn
> Dermota/Dermota (their first time around, 1963)
> Dieskau/Demus (but the Dieskau/Moore of 1963 comes close)
> Holl/Grubert
> Hotter/Moore
> Huesch/Mueller
> Lehmann/Ulanovsky
> Ludwig/Werba (not a commercial recording)
> Patzak/Demus
> Pears/Britten
> Prey/Bianconi
> Quasthoff/Spencer
> Schey/De Nobel
> Schreier/Richter
> Souzay/Baldwin (1958)
> Tauber/Spolinasky (only half the cycle but still...)
Interesting list. Until a few months ago, I was collecting WINTERREISE
recordings as avidly as Philip; these are the ones that I'd
keep if I were forced to pare the collection to the bone:
Fassbaender/Reimann (EMI)
Anders/Raucheisen (DGG)
Hagegard/Schuback (RCA)
Pears/Britten (Decca)
Pregardien/Staier (Teldec)
Greindl/Klust (DGG)
Schmitt-Walter/Leitner (Preiser)
Quasthoff/Spencer (RCA)
Huesch/Mueller (Preiser)
Schmidt/Jansen (DGG)
Van Dam/Baldwin (Forlane)
Schreier/Richter (Philips)
Hotter/Raucheisen (DGG)
Gmyrya/Ostrin (Melodiya LP)
Hynninen/Gothoni (the first one on Fuga LP, from around 1980)
> It's a long list after all. I can't choose really. If I were to take *one*
> recording with me to the notorious desert island it would probably be
> Schey's.
I'd probably pick Pregardien. Today, at least...
Bill
William D. Kasimer
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henry...@aol.com (HenryFogel) wrote:
> It's a good list, but for me omits a central recording -- the 1980 recording
> by Jorma Hynninen and Rolf Gothoni (on Fuga LPs). I find that a performance >
> that is deeply moving and beautifully sung.
It's a real pity that the only Hynninen version currently available is the
Ondine recording from about a decade later. For some reason, it's much
inferior to the earlier version.
BTW, earlier in the thread, I found out that another Hynninen recording of
the cycle will be released shortly, on Naxos. Unfortunately, it seems that
it will not be distributed anywhere but in Finland.
Henry, I remember reading a rave review in Fanfare shortly after the release
of the Fuga recording. Did you write it?
Alrod
>> recording with me to the notorious desert island it would probably be
>> Schey's.
>
>I'd probably pick Pregardien. Today, at least...
I'm waiting for the Bocelli. Lots better than the Helmut Lotti.
And Dawn Upshaw's stage pantomime (she actually manages a somersault
followed by a split during Der Leiermann) is not to be believed.
Lesley Garrett, where are you?
Alrod
HenryFogel
>It's a real pity that the only Hynninen version currently available is the
>Ondine recording from about a decade later. For some reason, it's much
>inferior to the earlier version.
>
>BTW, earlier in the thread, I found out that another Hynninen recording of
>the cycle will be released shortly, on Naxos. Unfortunately, it seems that
>it will not be distributed anywhere but in Finland.
>
>Henry, I remember reading a rave review in Fanfare shortly after the release
>of the Fuga recording. Did you write it?
>
>Bill
>
>William D. Kasimer
>wk...@juno.com
Guilty as charged.
Henry Fogel
Philip Peters
HenryFogel wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >Dan Koren wrote:
> >
> >> In article <36C84006...@p-peters.demon.nl>,
> >> Philip Peters <phi...@p-peters.demon.nl> wrote:
> >> >At the risk of taking up too much bandwith but also at the request of
> >> >some members of this ng I post my list of Winterreise recordings. I am
> >> >still greedy for more and would like to get in touch with people who are
> >> >interested.
> >>
> >> [... long list snipped ...]
> >>
> >> And which one(s) do you like best?
> >>
> >> dk
> >
> >I am not much interested in lists containing someone's ideas about wat is
> >*best*. I enjoy different interpretations for different reasons.
> >But here are some I never would want to be without (and I'll try to make it a
> >short list):
> >
> >Anders/Weissenborn
> >Dermota/Dermota (their first time around, 1963)
> >Dieskau/Demus (but the Dieskau/Moore of 1963 comes close)
> >Holl/Grubert
> >Hotter/Moore
> >Huesch/Mueller
> >Lehmann/Ulanovsky
> >Ludwig/Werba (not a commercial recording)
> >Patzak/Demus
> >Pears/Britten
> >Prey/Bianconi
> >Quasthoff/Spencer
> >Schey/De Nobel
> >Schreier/Richter
> >Souzay/Baldwin (1958)
> >Tauber/Spolinasky (only half the cycle but still...)
>
> It's a good list, but for me omits a central recording -- the 1980 recording by
> Jorma Hynninen and Rolf Gothoni (on Fuga LPs). I find that a performance that
> is deeply moving and beautifully sung. And Gothoni's piano playing is a major
> contributor as well.
>
> Henry Fogel
You're quite right and certainly Hynninen's first recording is better than his
second effort (although there is not much difference inyterpretation-wise). There
*is* a third Hynninen on Naxos (1996) which I've never heard but hope to acquire
soon. I must say that I can make this list much longer.
Philip
Simon Roberts
: >> It's a long list after all. I can't choose really. If I were to take *one*
If we're really lucky Bocelli and Dawn (without shoes, of course) will do
it together; worth waiting for the video.
Simon
Matthew B. Tepper
nfna...@NOSPAM.rocketmail.com pondered what I'm pondering as follows...
>
>>> It's a long list after all. I can't choose really. If I were to take
>>> *one* recording with me to the notorious desert island it would
>>> probably be Schey's.
>>
>>I'd probably pick Pregardien. Today, at least...
>
>I'm waiting for the Bocelli. Lots better than the Helmut Lotti.
>And Dawn Upshaw's stage pantomime (she actually manages a somersault
>followed by a split during Der Leiermann) is not to be believed.
>Lesley Garrett, where are you?
>
You mean Michael Bolton hasn't gotten to it yet? Drat.
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>Julius Patzak & Joerg Demus (195.) LP
Assuming this is the same performance on Preiser CD (93067) the recording date
is given as March 1964.