CD of Scarlatti's harpsichord sonatas?
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Can anybody recommend a good CD recording of (some of :-) Domenico
Scarlatti's sonatas for harpsichord? I've seen Horowitz's recording,
but that's piano---I prefer something closer to the original instrument
for which they were written.
Thanks in advance,
Guillermo
Simon Roberts
Enter Name Here (ku...@dosshell.com) wrote:
: Can anybody recommend a good CD recording of (some of :-) Domenico
: Scarlatti's sonatas for harpsichord? I've seen Horowitz's recording,
: but that's piano---I prefer something closer to the original instrument
: for which they were written.
I would suggest the 2 or 3 discs played by Andreas Staier on Deutsche
Harmonia Mundi and Teldec. And there's always that 30+ (?) disc box by
Scott Ross of the whole lot on Erato.... I would also urge you not to
worry about the instrument for which they were written unless you happen
to be a fan of harpsichords; the music sounds wonderful on the piano, and
never better than in the two disc set by Pletnev on Virgin.
Simon
William Smithers
In article <34FB2CE2...@dosshell.com>, ku...@dosshell.com says...
>
>Can anybody recommend a good CD recording of (some of :-) Domenico
>Scarlatti's sonatas for harpsichord? I've seen Horowitz's recording,
>but that's piano---I prefer something closer to the original instrument
>for which they were written.
>
> Guillermo
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Guillermo --
My recommendation may, in practice, be useless, but it gives me a chance to
state my great appreciation for the Scarlatti sonatas of harpsichordist Luciano
Sgrizzi.
The fire and poetry of his performances of this Spanish-influenced music make
him a clear choice for me over such often-recommended harpsichordists as
Kirkpatrick, Scott Ross, and others.
The Sgrizzi performances appeared originally on a Nonesuch LP. (There was
also a Nonesuch disk by him of "18th Century Harpsichord Music.") Thankfully, I
still have both.
Music Boulevard lists a CD of Scarlatti sonatas by Sgrizzi -- I can't
remember the label -- but every time I order it, I get a notice that it's not
available at this time. And I don't know if it is a reissue of the Nonesuch
disk mentioned above.
If you come across it, please let me know :-).
Best wishes,
-- Bill Smithers
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Lance G. Hill
Guillermo: You might seek the Chesky CD [CD75] with harpsichordist Igor
Kipnis. Fifteen sonatas are performed on various harpsichords. Kipnis is
recognized today as among the leading harpsichordists and he uses
instruments that are "lightly strung," (like the original instruments)
rather than the instruments with cast iron frames (Pleyels) which are also
lovely instruments (such as those used by Wanda Landowska). I had the
pleasure of knowing Mr. Kipnis and preparing his Rutkowski & Robinette
harpsichord for a concert performance of Poulenc's Concerto champêtre some
years ago. He is truly a gentleman AND a great scholar in whatever music he
chooses to play.
Lance G. Hill, Director of BBS Services
MSN - Classical Music Forum 3/2/98
Enter Name Here wrote in message <34FB2CE2...@dosshell.com>...
Avery Earle
Scott Ross's set is available as a single or a triple-disk anthology.
I like Ross's Scarlatti better than Anthony Newman's, not that that's
in any way shabby. Another nice one is Colin Tilney, on Dorian, playing
a brass-strung instrument.
One that I don't much like is Pinnock's. He is as dry and academic as
he usually is, and there is a very loud ventilation system in the
background.
In article <34FB2CE2...@dosshell.com>,
MRPERMAN
The Horowitz piano versions of the Scarlatti sonatas are superb. Also
recommended by me are Marcelle Meyer's recordings in Vol. 2 of her Edition on
EMI.
I second Scott Ross - the single disc "Les Plus Belles Sonatas" is a good
selection.
Marc Perman
davide
pierre hantai on astree is interesting, if not perfect. hes aggressive and
occasionally frenchy - theres a lot of energy, and some of the sonatas
sound much different than other performances ive heard. the sound is very
near-the-instrument.
for piano you must get the cheapy inport on pilz or point or musique d'or
or whatever you can find it on by dubrovka tomsic.
DGE
Enter Name Here <ku...@dosshell.com> wrote in article
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Thomas J Wood
William Smithers wrote:
>
> My recommendation may, in practice, be useless, but it gives me a chance to
> state my great appreciation for the Scarlatti sonatas of harpsichordist Luciano
> Sgrizzi.
Sgrizzi's Nonesuch LP was my introduction to Scarlatti. He played with
plenty of energy, but on a "modern" style harpsichord -- and he playes
EVERY trill from the principal note (ick). He recorded ALL the sonatas
in the '80s I believe, but I'm not sure for what label.
There are several newer recordings I prefer to Sgrizzi. My current
favorites include Andreas Staier, who plays with all the fire and
imagination Scarlatti calls for. He did two Scarlatti CDs for DHM and
one for Teldec.
Igor Kipnis' Chesky CD is very interesting: he plays four different
harpsichords representing different national instrument styles, and adds
ornaments in the repeats. I find his playing just a little prissy, but
this is a fine recital.
Scott Ross left an impressive legacy by recording all the sonatas for
Erato. His playing is excellent, but sounds a bit literal to me, and I
find I don't listen to the single sampler disk I have very often.
Tom Wood
Allan Evans
Wanda Landowska recorded about 40 of Scarlatti's sonatas,and most are on
an EMI References cd. Her playing has authority, rhythm, style and
intelligence, which usually outstrips all other harpsichordists. Also,
Colin Tilney did marvels in the LP era for Argo and L'Oiseau Lyre. His CD
era discs are good but some of the fire is gone.
Allan Evans
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Lance G. Hill
Tom ... very interesting post! I too loved the Nonesuch Scarlatti sonatas
with Sgrizzi. Well recorded and full of verve and energy, color ... he
actually sounded like he thoroughly enjoyed making that record. I did not
mention those because I do not believe WEA ever put them on CD. Also,
Landowska's have been favorites of mine. They are on an EMI CD [64934] which
may still be around. I had the Japanese Angel LP pressings which were
beautifully done. As I recall LPs, I think Charles Rosen did a group of them
for Counterpoint/Esoteric on the Sienna pianoforte which I thought were
beautifully done, like everything he does. (I think that has just been
reissued on CD now.)
Lance G. Hill, Director of BBS Services
MSN - Classical Music Forum 3/4/98.
Thomas J Wood wrote in message <34FC2FE6...@uis.edu>...
p-peters
davide schreef:
I gladly stick by Wanda Landowska and, if it has to be a piano, Lipatti.
Philip Peters
p-peters
p-peters schreef:
Also Horowitz in quite a different way though
P.P.
:-] Jordi Savall
You can try Ton Koopman's or Gustav Lenahrdt.
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(o o) Juan Zurutuza
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mtangent
Thomas J Wood wrote:
> William Smithers wrote:
>
>
> Sgrizzi's Nonesuch LP was my introduction to Scarlatti. He played with
> plenty of energy, but on a "modern" style harpsichord -- and he playes
> EVERY trill from the principal note (ick). He recorded ALL the sonatas
> in the '80s I believe, but I'm not sure for what label.
>
I have only found one cd of Sgrizzi's Scarlatti [and I do look for them].
It's on a label called 'Accord' and the title is in French.
I would also like to recommend two other Scarlatti cds...
Christian Zacharias' on EMI and an Hermitage live recording of Emil Gilels that
include 7 Scarlatti sonatas... [I remember fondly his old lp on the Monitor label]
And, one last recomm.
I was suprised by a release [a couple of years] ago of Scarlatti on guitar by Rachel
Gauk.
Not as intense as Scarlatti can be found elsewhere, but certainly very enjoyable.
Scott Ross also did some Scarlatti on a documentary by [I think] the CBC in Canada.
I wished I had recorded it... I was truly mesmerized by this video performance and
his visual presence really impressed me, especially as I had never heard him before
that.
Cheers,
John M.
Bob Estes
In article <6dej7a$475$1...@ocean.silcom.com>, bil...@silcom.com (William
Smithers) wrote:
> My recommendation may, in practice, be useless, but it gives me a chance to
> state my great appreciation for the Scarlatti sonatas of harpsichordist
Luciano
> Sgrizzi.
>
I really like Sgrizzi too. I have an old 2-LP set from Musical Heritage Society.
Bob Estes
William Smithers
In article <6dstop$h...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>, es...@onscreen-sci.com
says...
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Bob --
If you can, and would, make tapes for me of your Musical Heritage Scarlatti
sonatas performed by Sgrizzi, I'll make tapes for you of: (1) the Nonesuch
Scarlatti sonatas (16) done by him; and (2) the Nonesuch LP "18th Century
Italian Harpsichord Music," which includes works by Domenico Scarlatti (3),
Pietro Scarlatti (!), Zipoli, Galuppi, Paradies, Pergolesi, Rutini, and
Cimarosa -- unless, of course, the material is the same on your records and
mine.
Best wishes,
-- Bill Smithers
P.S. I assume it's all right to do this with defunct labels.
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gggg...@gmail.com
> Can anybody recommend a good CD recording of (some of :-) Domenico
> Scarlatti's sonatas for harpsichord? I've seen Horowitz's recording,
> but that's piano---I prefer something closer to the original instrument
> for which they were written.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Guillermo
Scarlatti - Sonatas for Harpsichord (reference recording : Blandine Verlet)
Théo Amon
> Scarlatti's sonatas for harpsichord? I've seen Horowitz's recording,
> but that's piano---I prefer something closer to the original instrument
> for which they were written.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Guillermo
He also did another album (Sony/SEON), with a much lighter sounding instrument, more Italianate than the very Germanic harpsichord used in the DHM recording. The selection also in concentrated on more rythmic, dancing pieces. You should look after this one too.
howie...@btinternet.com
Russ (not Martha)
> Can anybody recommend a good CD recording of (some of :-) Domenico
> Scarlatti's sonatas for harpsichord? I've seen Horowitz's recording,
> but that's piano---I prefer something closer to the original instrument
> for which they were written.
>
>
Russ (not Martha)
Ed Presson
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the private transfers available?
Ed Presson
howie...@btinternet.com
Russ (not Martha)
> You can download these Valenti recordings if you want from Amazon
Of Valenti's many volumes of Scarlatti sonatas for Westminster, Pristine Audio remastered Vols 1 thru 11, and I did Vols 12 and up.
Russ (not Martha)
howie...@btinternet.com
Here's a link to one of them
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Scarlatti-Longos-7-Fernando-Valenti/dp/B001J71AOI/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1520450457&sr=8-12&keywords=scarlatti+valenti
Théo Amon
Bozo
> Scarlatti albums are all about the selection of sonatas, I think.
Tassilo
> I'm not much of a Scarlatti fan,
> and in truth I've never come another recording which has appealed to me [. . .] until recently, when I came across one which is [. . .]irresistible for its colourful keyboard effects and virtuosity, by Wladislav Klosiewicz.
Curious whether you've heard Fernando Valenti? Now there's some wild gypsy flamenco Scarlatti.
-Tassilo
howie...@btinternet.com
laraine
She explains here in some detail the work she did to find related
groups of these sonatas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oIc3A19MAc
C.
Tatonik
I like listening to Charles Rosen's handful of Scarlatti sonatas played
on the Siena Pianoforte. It has a unique sound - clear like a harp in
the high registers, a little plummy below. I don't know if one would
want that as a steady diet, though.
I forget who was responsible for the phrase, but one of my professors
remarked that a good description of Scarlatti's keyboard sonatas is
"ingenius jesting with art."
That reminds me of an interview I read with Stephen Kovacevich awhile
back in which he said he can't stand Haydn keyboard sonatas because
they're like "a joke in Latin."
Bozo
> That reminds me of an interview I read with Stephen Kovacevich awhile
> back in which he said he can't stand Haydn keyboard sonatas because
> they're like "a joke in Latin."
Bozo
> Keep meaning to listen to Claire Huangci's collection on piano as well.
> She explains here in some detail the work she did to find related
> groups of these sonatas:
Bozo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD-bV_CkB7s&list=PLkLimRXN6NKyiR7GRd8ssJcSp1MF4Nk6A
howie...@btinternet.com
Bozo
> I'm not totally convinced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FccWYCkUPoE
Bozo
FWW, while there are duplications between the recordings , and while I am probably over-generalizing, seems Huangci chose more animated, demonstrative sonatas ( hers a delightful selection ) , Schiff less exuberant ,more reflective sonatas ; Huangci employing a more cleanly articulated style ; Schiff employing more legato ; Huangci a brighter sound, Schiff more mellow ; fitting for their choices ; both excellent to my ears.
I did listen now , for a first and second time , to all (?) 39 sonatas on the Huangci 2-cd set ( at least as on YT ) over several sessions.Schiff ( 15 sonatas , if I recall ) , of course just 1 cd I’ve had for several years.
Scarlatti - on - the - piano ( I prefer ) aficionados should consider having both. You may want to sample with the first 2, K.427 and 144, then K.13, then the last 2 K.490 and K.476 , on the Huangci YT. The Schiff cd ( YT link given here earlier in this thread ) , plus some sonatas scattered elsewhere across my collection, enough for me, although, to be clear , I do enjoy Scarlatti , in doses, and Huang ci's playing here.
Bozo
Pogorelich , DGG cd, K.13 :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yBQlZ06G40&t=1899s ( At 33:48 )
Huangci , Berlin Classics cd, K.13 :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlVcKBhYMqI
laraine
Scarlatti wrote some of it to capture the specific intense sounds of the
harpsichord. As Huangci noted, IIUC, every once in awhile he includes
some extreme dissonance.
Perhaps he liked interesting sounds, but I agree that there is likely an
element of surprise or showmanship as well. Note also the showing off(?)
of the keyboardist crossing hands very quickly at times.
C.
howie...@btinternet.com
I'm sure that the music is academically interesting (finding connections to Italian and Spanish traditions for example), and I expect it's great fun to play.
Another aspect of his music is that it's so repetitive. It's as if what he's about is the motoric repetition of small cells of music, manic motoric repetition.
There are of course many keyboard toccatas which are based on imitative counterpoint and which are motoric, maybe Scarlatti represents a sort of galantification of this sort of music.
howie...@btinternet.com
I remember that there are some chromatic moments in K 182, but it's nothing like a toccata durezze e ligature!
There's a very good CD dedicated to innovative harmonic ideas in Scarlatti by Marco Farolfi -- I recommend it.
Ricardo Jimenez
wrote:
>As far as the occasional extreme dissonance that Laraine mentioned, with reference to something Huangci notes, I'm sure there's a lot to be explored as far as tuning and temperament are concerned. I have no idea what recordings have been made on instruments which aren't tuned equally.
>
> I remember that there are some chromatic moments in K 182, but it's nothing like a toccata durezze e ligature!
>
> There's a very good CD dedicated to innovative harmonic ideas in Scarlatti by Marco Farolfi -- I recommend it.
Farolfi. Do you have any idea where the other 40 or 50 volumes are?