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Mr. Mike
Jan 27, 2014, 5:06:09 PM1/27/14
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Does anyone here know what kind of glue is best for affixing ivory
piano keys to the wood underneath? I asked this question in another
Usenet forum a long time ago, and someone suggested a water-based
glue, which does not work, because it causes the keys to warp. (I know
this, because I bought some such PVC-E glue recently from a guy on
Ebay, who didn't explain in his description that this was for plastic
keys.) Many years ago I bought some Elmer's product at one of the
local stores like Home Depot, and it worked fine. But I don't have the
tube of this any more, and none of the local stores seem to sell
Elmer's products (they are all LePage's -- who I have contacted, and
they cannot help me). I have considered contact cement, but the
instructions sound kind of hairy, i.e., "it bonds immediately," so
there is seemingly no margin for error with this type of glue. I would
like to avoid geeky solutions as suggested on certain WWW sites that
you should use glue created from the toenails of koala bears or some
such nonsense...
piano keys to the wood underneath? I asked this question in another
Usenet forum a long time ago, and someone suggested a water-based
glue, which does not work, because it causes the keys to warp. (I know
this, because I bought some such PVC-E glue recently from a guy on
Ebay, who didn't explain in his description that this was for plastic
keys.) Many years ago I bought some Elmer's product at one of the
local stores like Home Depot, and it worked fine. But I don't have the
tube of this any more, and none of the local stores seem to sell
Elmer's products (they are all LePage's -- who I have contacted, and
they cannot help me). I have considered contact cement, but the
instructions sound kind of hairy, i.e., "it bonds immediately," so
there is seemingly no margin for error with this type of glue. I would
like to avoid geeky solutions as suggested on certain WWW sites that
you should use glue created from the toenails of koala bears or some
such nonsense...
William Sommerwerck
Jan 27, 2014, 5:30:53 PM1/27/14
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Elmer's Glue /is/ water-based.
You might try carpenter's glue, which is chemically similar but forms a
stronger bond. It's yellow or brown.
Another possibility is 3M "77" contact adhesive. You put it on both surfaces,
let it dry a few minutes, then press the pieces together. It should /never/
come off.
Yet another possibility is a few dabs of expoy. It takes at least a few
minutes to set, so you should have no trouble positioning the key.
You might try carpenter's glue, which is chemically similar but forms a
stronger bond. It's yellow or brown.
Another possibility is 3M "77" contact adhesive. You put it on both surfaces,
let it dry a few minutes, then press the pieces together. It should /never/
come off.
Yet another possibility is a few dabs of expoy. It takes at least a few
minutes to set, so you should have no trouble positioning the key.
JohnGavin
Jan 27, 2014, 5:38:27 PM1/27/14
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Here's one:
http://www.titebond.com/product.aspx?id=9e9995b4-08eb-4fc6-8254-c47daa20f8ed
Mr. Mike
Jan 27, 2014, 5:58:00 PM1/27/14
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 14:30:53 -0800, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzle...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Elmer's Glue /is/ water-based.
You are assuming I meant the white glue typically used for school
<grizzle...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Elmer's Glue /is/ water-based.
projects rather than other products made by the Elmer's company such
as these. The one I used before came in a tube, but I can't find it
any of the local hardware stores any more.
http://www.elmers.ca/products/homerepair/specialty.aspx
Norman Schwartz
Jan 27, 2014, 6:09:55 PM1/27/14
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William Sommerwerck wrote:
> Elmer's Glue /is/ water-based.
>
> You might try carpenter's glue, which is chemically similar but forms
> a stronger bond. It's yellow or brown.
>
> Another possibility is 3M "77" contact adhesive. You put it on both
> surfaces, let it dry a few minutes, then press the pieces together.
> It should /never/ come off.
>
That's go to be good, as it's used in the manufacture of Magneplanar
> Elmer's Glue /is/ water-based.
>
> You might try carpenter's glue, which is chemically similar but forms
> a stronger bond. It's yellow or brown.
>
> Another possibility is 3M "77" contact adhesive. You put it on both
> surfaces, let it dry a few minutes, then press the pieces together.
> It should /never/ come off.
>
loudspeakers:
http://www.paulspeltz.com/maggie/
"As a result Donna has glued on the wire and foil on 95% of all Maggies ever
made in the last 20 years. So if your Maggies are still holding together,
you have Donna (and 3M Super77 Spray Adhesive) to thank for it."
Mr. Mike
Jan 27, 2014, 6:13:34 PM1/27/14
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 14:38:27 -0800 (PST), JohnGavin
<dag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I remember that when I restored a large harpsichord the recommended glue was hyde glue.
>
>Here's one:
>
>http://www.titebond.com/product.aspx?id=9e9995b4-08eb-4fc6-8254-c47daa20f8ed
Hmmm,, available from various merchants on Amazon. Thanks.
<dag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I remember that when I restored a large harpsichord the recommended glue was hyde glue.
>
>Here's one:
>
>http://www.titebond.com/product.aspx?id=9e9995b4-08eb-4fc6-8254-c47daa20f8ed
dk
Jan 28, 2014, 4:57:59 AM1/28/14
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On Monday, January 27, 2014 2:06:09 PM UTC-8, Mr. Mike wrote:
> Does anyone here know what kind of glue is best for affixing ivory
> piano keys to the wood underneath? I asked this question in another
> Usenet forum a long time ago, and someone suggested a water-based
> glue, which does not work, because it causes the keys to warp.
Murray Perahia's fingers.
> Does anyone here know what kind of glue is best for affixing ivory
> piano keys to the wood underneath? I asked this question in another
> Usenet forum a long time ago, and someone suggested a water-based
> glue, which does not work, because it causes the keys to warp.
dk
Terry
Jan 28, 2014, 11:12:51 AM1/28/14
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In article <j0mde9t04d6ili41r...@4ax.com>, Mr. Mike
Floyd A. Stevens (Professional Piano Tuning, Rowman and Littlefield,
ISBN0-8304-1593-9) uses a thermogrip glue gun for ivorine keytops.
Because ivory is translucent, it's important to use cement that is very
white, so for ivory tops, he uses "Ivory cement", which presumably is
obtainable from a piano repair supplies house.
ISBN0-8304-1593-9) uses a thermogrip glue gun for ivorine keytops.
Because ivory is translucent, it's important to use cement that is very
white, so for ivory tops, he uses "Ivory cement", which presumably is
obtainable from a piano repair supplies house.
O
Jan 28, 2014, 12:25:44 PM1/28/14
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In article <290120140312514261%tlst...@tpgi.com.au>, Terry
Yes, I'm not sure that you want a glue that "never comes off." There
are times when you want to remove keytops undamaged.
-Owen
are times when you want to remove keytops undamaged.
-Owen
Mort
Jan 28, 2014, 2:43:55 PM1/28/14
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This is only a series of one, but some 20 years ago, I used Duco Cement
in a green small tube to affix the "ivory" layer to its piano key,and
it worked very well indeed. It is acetone-based, so avoid flame near it
until dry, which you would do with a piano anyhow. It is sold at
hardware stores. Excess glue on piano keys or skin can be removed with
acetone, or with most nail polish removers. It dries rather quickly.
Good luck.
Mort Linder
Terry
Jan 29, 2014, 9:22:14 AM1/29/14
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In article <280120141225449691%ow...@denofinequityx.com>,
I guess it's not obvious, but thermogrip glue will release with the
application of heat. I don't know what is the situation with ivory
cement, but a piano repair house could clarify that.
application of heat. I don't know what is the situation with ivory
cement, but a piano repair house could clarify that.
Terry
Jan 29, 2014, 9:32:13 AM1/29/14
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O
Jan 29, 2014, 2:15:05 PM1/29/14
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In article <300120140132137630%tlst...@tpgi.com.au>, Terry
Someone made such a reference, in another response.
-Owen
-Owen
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