the greatest HIP recordings
Alfredo E. Rivas
Although I've enjoyed a couple of HIP recordings in the past, I've
nver been too much of a fan. I thought it would be a great idea if
some of the more devoted fans of the newsgroup could throw in what
they consider to be the 10 best HIP recordings so far.You can replace
"best" for "favorites", or 10 for as many as you like; since the
exercise is extremely subjective. The idea is to give the rest of us
sort of an "intro to HIP" list.
Thamks,
Alfredo Rivas
David Wake
Norrington's Beethoven Promotheus Overture.
David
Richard Loeb
Cleopatra. His Weihnachts Oratorium by Bach is also very exciting!
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Simon Roberts
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It might help if you narrowed down the repertoire a bit.... I couldn't
possibly narrow it down to a mere 10 favorites, but a handful off the
top of my head include Brueggen's Beethoven 7/8, MAK's Brandenburgs,
Biondi's new Vivaldi op. 8, Jacobs' Cosi fan Tutte and Giulio Cesare,
Minkowski's Ariodante and Handel recordings with Kozena, Staier's Mozart
piano concerti 9/17 and 18/19, Appony Qt Haydn op. 33, Harnoncourt's
Haydn sym 45, and....
Simon
Brent Huiberts
world...
Brent
Matthew Silverstein
> Although I've enjoyed a couple of HIP recordings in the past, I've
> nver been too much of a fan. I thought it would be a great idea if
> some of the more devoted fans of the newsgroup could throw in what
> they consider to be the 10 best HIP recordings so far.You can replace
> "best" for "favorites", or 10 for as many as you like; since the
> exercise is extremely subjective. The idea is to give the rest of us
> sort of an "intro to HIP" list.
I like most of the entries on Simon's list (at least the one's I've heard),
but here are a few more: Newman's Goldberg Variations, Eby's B-minor Mass,
Bylsma/Bilson Beethoven cello sonatas, Gardiner's Beethoven and Schumann
symphonies, Brüggen's Schubert 8, Weil's Schubert 8, Weil's Nelson Mass,
Savall's 'Eroica,' Carmignola's Four Seasons, Levin's Beethoven PC 4, Khouri's
Chopin Scherzo 1 . . .
Matty
Mike Diggs
riturno di Ullisse in Patria of Monteverdi (the original with his Concentus
Musicus Wein - I think there was a later recording with the Zurich opera, or
was that L'Orfeo only?)
Mike
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Paul Kintzele
"Alfredo E. Rivas" wrote:
>
> Although I've enjoyed a couple of HIP recordings in the past, I've
> nver been too much of a fan. I thought it would be a great idea if
> some of the more devoted fans of the newsgroup could throw in what
> they consider to be the 10 best HIP recordings so far.You can replace
> "best" for "favorites", or 10 for as many as you like; since the
> exercise is extremely subjective. The idea is to give the rest of us
> sort of an "intro to HIP" list.
How about a totally off-the-cuff top 20 countdown? I'm sure I'm leaving
off a lot, but these are some of my favorites:
20. Bach, Cello Suites - Wispelwey (1998 rec., Channel Classics)
19. Bach, Goldberg Variations - Newman, hrpschrd. (Sony Infinity
Digital)
18. Schubert, Winterreise - Pregardien/Staier (Teldec)
17. Mozart, Syms. 38 "Prague" & 39 - Pinnock/English Concert (Archiv)
16. Beethoven, Violin Concerto - Zehetmair/Brüggen/Orch. 18thC (Philips)
15. Bach, Christmas Oratorio - Jacobs/Acd. Alte Musik Berlin (Har.
Mundi)
14. Haydn, The Creation - Gardiner/English Baroque Soloists (Archiv)
13. Mozart, Overtures - Weil/Tafelmusik (Sony Vivarte)
12. Beethoven, Sym. 3 "Eroica" - Savall/Conc. des Nations (Astree)
11. Bach, Brandenburg Concertos - Musica Antiqua Köln (DG Panorama)
10. Beethoven, "Kreutzer" and "Spring" Sonatas - Johnson/Newman
(Newport)
9. Handel, Solomon - McCreesh/Gabrieli Consort (Archiv)
8. Beethoven, String Quartets 1-6 Op. 18 - Quatuor Turner (Harm. Mundi)
7. Schubert, Piano Trios - La Gaia Scienza (Winter & Winter)
6. Schumann, Complete Symphonies - Gardiner/Orch. Rev. & Rom. (Archiv)
5. Haydn, String Quartets Op. 76 - Quatuor Mosaiques (Astree)
4. Bach, St. Matthew Passion - Harnoncourt/Conc. Musicus Wien (Teldec)
3. Vivaldi, Four Seasons - Biondi/Europa Galante (Opus 111)
2. Haydn, Seven Last Words of Christ - Savall/Conc. des Nations
(Astree)
1. Handel, Ariodante - Minkowski/Musiciens du Louvre (Archiv)
Paul
Frank Geck
listed (an unusual amount of common sense in this thread ;-)
Bach Cello suites, Whispelwey II (my bedroom recording...)
Bach Brandenburg Cto. MAK (pure quicksilver, adrenalin rises...)
Haendel, Giulio Cesare, Jacobs, Concerto Coelln (saw it on stage,
incredible well)
Haydn, Paris Symph, La Petit Bande
Haydn, Piano Trios, Beeths, Bylsma, NN (was it Levin?)
Haydn, op. 33, Mosaiques
And a recent favorite: Field, Piano cts, Staier, Concerto Coelln
(again).
Regards, Frank
Hou Fang-Lin
as TV features during the seventies. F-L
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samir golescu
For some reason, this thread reminds me of the ineffably fat W C Fields,
and of his famous circus presentation of two twins, as the "smallest
giant", respectively the "greatest dwarf" in history...
But then, that my imagination wanders astray is not a surprise....
regards,
SG
Simon Roberts
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I for one am shocked.
Simon
Jim Ringland
alfre...@yahoo.com says...
> ... I thought it would be a great idea if
> they consider to be the 10 best HIP recordings so far.You can replace
> "best" for "favorites", or 10 for as many as you like; since the
> exercise is extremely subjective. The idea is to give the rest of us
> sort of an "intro to HIP" list.
I can't claim a large or well-rounded enough collection to claim a real
top-anything, but here are some favorites I'd be happy to recommend.
I've only included complete packages, rather than individual
great recordings on otherwise variable disks. (But let me note Goodman's
Haydn 82 and Bruggen's Haydn 104 are wonderful performances in good but
not stellar company.) And rather than top 10, how about ten categories?
Early and Middle Baroque:
- Merula: Canzoni et Sonate; Bagliano: Collegium Pro Musica (Dynamic)
- Viagio Musicale; Antonini: Il Giardino Armonico (Teldec)
Corelli:
- Concerti Grossi Opus 6; Sardelli: Modo Antiquo (Teldec)
Vivaldi:
- Concerti per Liuto et Mandolino; Antonini: Il Giardiano Armonico
(Teldec)
Bach:
- Brandenberg Concertos; Antonini: Il Giardiano Armonico (Teldec)
- Ouvertüren [Orchestral Suites]; Academie für Alte Music Berlin
(Harmonia Mundi France)
Handel:
- Concerti Grossi Op. 6; Hogwood: Handel and Haydn Society (Decca)
- Royal Fireworks Music, Concerti a due cori; Lamon: Tafelmusic (Sony)
- The Messiah; Pinnock: The English Consort (DG)
Late Baroque other than above:
- Graupner, Fasch: Concertos for Bassoon; Nemeth: Capella Savaria
(Dynamic)
- Zelenka: Complete Orchestral Works 2; Sonnentheil: Das Neu-Eröffnete
Orchestra (CPO)
Haydn
- Syms. 73-75; Goodman: Hanover Band (Hyperion)
- Syms. 82-87; Weil: Tafelmusic (Sony)
- Syms. 95, 103, & 104: Hickox, Collegium Musicum 90 (Chandos)
Mozart:
- Complete Piano Concertos; Bilson, Gardiner: The English Baroque
Solists (DG)
Beethoven:
- Sym 2 and 8; Norrington: London Classical Players (Virgin)
- Sym 3; Savall: Le Concert de Nations (Auvidis)
Schubert
- Complete symphonies; Immerseel: Amima Eterna (Sony)
Now I have to read everybody else's list and get out the credit card!
--
Jim Ringland
Chuck
Mozart - Marraige of Figaro, Arnold Ostmann on L'Oiseau Lyre
Chuck
Jon A Conrad
at udel (I mean, we're only 45 minutes away...). Anyway, here's a short
list, based on much-reduced buying in the last 5 years:
Beethoven:
Symphonies 2 & 8, Norrington (EMI)
Symphonies, Gardiner (DG -- no more 100% ideal than any other Beeth9S
complete set, but the level is reliably high and often more)
Missa Solemnis, Gardiner (DG -- this is #1 on my whole list)
Handel:
Giulio Cesare, Jacobs (HM)
Ariodante, Minkowski (DG -- probably #2 on my overall list)
Haydn:
Seasons, Gardiner (DG Archiv)
Mozart:
Cosi fan tutte, Rattle (EMI)
(Also if mostly modern instruments are allowed: Mackerras (Telarc))
Zauberflote, Ostman (Oiseau-Lyre)
Jon Alan Conrad
Department of Music
University of Delaware
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Jan Winter
wrote:
>Thamks,
Some favourites, in random order:
1. Schola Cantorum Basiliensis: Das Chalumaeu, ein Portrait (lp);
2. American Brass Quintet: Music of the mid-1800's (lp);
3. Colin Tilney, clavichord: Fantasias, JS, CPE, WF Bach, Mozart (lp);
4. Stanley Hoogland -fp: JL Dussek, sonatas (lp);
5. Ulsamer-Collegium: Purcell, Fantasias for viols (lp);
6. Jan Panenka -p: Beethoven, Dussek, Weber (lp);
7. Malcolm Binns, -p: Liszt (lp);
8. Radoslav Kvapil -p: Dvorak (cd);
9. Jan Panenka -p: Liszt (cd)
10. Jos van Immerseel -p: Debussy (cd);
11. Pieter Wispelwey -vcl, Paul Komen -p: Brahms (cd);
12. Christophe Rousset -hps: WF Bach, div (cd);
13. same: WF Bach, 12 polonaises (cd);
14. JE Gardiner, Engl. Baroque Soloist: Gluck, Don Juan (cd);
15. Harnoncourt, CMW: Haydn, symph 6, 7, 8 (cd);
16. Savall, Conc des Nations: Beethoven (cd);
17. Savall, Ton Koopman, Hopk. Smith: Marin Marais (cd);
18. Jos van Immerseel, Anima Eterna: Schubert, symph 9 (cd);
19. Peter Bruns -vcl, Roglit Ishay -p: Fauré (cd);
20. Jacques Ogg -fp: Jiri Benda (cd).
--
Jan Winter, Amsterdam
(j.wi...@xs4all.nl)
Ray Hall
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I don't have that many HIP recordings as some others, but one stands out for
me. Absolutely beautiful.
Joseph Haydn - Missa "Sunt bona mixta malis", Offertorium "Non nobis,
Domine", Salve regina and other works, played by Tafelmusik, Tölzer
Knabenchor, Bruno Weil on Sony Vivarte SK 53368.
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John Harkness
wrote:
>Well maybe the title is not that specific.
Pickett -- The Pilgrimage to Santiago (O-L) -- medieval and deeply
weird
Mozart -- Piano Concertos 20-21 -- Bilson/GArdiner
Bach -- Violin Concertos -- Manze (HM)
Biber/Schmelzer -- Scherzi Musicali -- Musica Antiqua Koln
Beethoven -- Symphonies 2/8 -- Norrington
Beethoven -- Symphonies 4/7 -- Gardiner
Telemann -- Wassermusik -- Musica Antiqua Koln
Purcell -- Anthems and Welcome Songs -- King (Hyperion)
Lawes -- Consort Musik -- Fretwork (Virgin)
Mendelssohn -- Symphonies 3-5 -- Brueggen
John Harkness
Yoram Regev
Beethoven Eroica - Savall
Mozart Cosi fan tutte - Jacobs
Handel Dixit Dominus - Minkowski
Haydn Symph. 45 & 48 - Solomons
Beethoven Symph. 9 - Gardiner
Mozart Fortepiano Sonatas - Hakkila
Schubert Symph. 8 (C major) - Weil
Gluck Orfeo ed Euridice - Bernius
Beethoven Violin Conc. - Beths/Weil
Berlioz Romeo et Juliette - Gardiner
Schubert works for piano 4 hands - Bilson/Levin
Enjoy!
Yoram
Alfredo E. Rivas
> "Alfredo E. Rivas" wrote:
> 3. Vivaldi, Four Seasons - Biondi/Europa Galante (Opus 111)
Paul,
Is it a mistake or did Biondi recorded this twice? I have this
recording, but the label is veritas. Just trying to clarify...
regards,
AR
Alfredo E. Rivas
>
> It might help if you narrowed down the repertoire a bit....
Well, I was trying to get general recommendations. So far your post
along with the others have brought a great variety of recordings to my
attention and I am thankful for that.
I couldn't
> possibly narrow it down to a mere 10 favorites, but a handful off the
> top of my head include Brueggen's Beethoven 7/8, MAK's Brandenburgs,
> Biondi's new Vivaldi op. 8,
I have his 4 seasons a like them a lot. How recent is this new stuff?
Jacobs' Cosi fan Tutte and Giulio Cesare,
> Minkowski's Ariodante and Handel recordings with Kozena,
Staier's Mozart
> piano concerti 9/17 and 18/19,
I'm not too crazy about the pianoforte sound, specially for Beethoven,
but I heard some Staier and like it, I probably need to hear his
Mozart.
Appony Qt Haydn op. 33, Harnoncourt's
> Haydn sym 45, and....
>
> Simon
Now I just need a recommenadation for Haydn's The Creation and the
Seven Last Words, and I'll be a happy man.
regards,
AR
alp
My favorite HIP recordings are Harnoncourt's recordings of Bach with
the Concentus Musicus. This is because of Harnoncourt's unique
approach to this music. He takes the view that composers of the era
expected performers to supply details of phrasing and articulation, as
well as ornamentation, and that an "authentic" performance should not
strictly follow the score, but should conform (as well as possible) to
such performance practices. So, despite strictly adhering to the
original instrumentation and ensembel size, Harnoncourt takes great
interpretive liberties. The results are, in my opinion, stunning.
I would recommend his recordings of the Brandenburg concerti and
orchestral suites. Also great are his original 1960's and 70's
recordings of the mass in b-minor and the St Matthew Passion (which I
prefer to his later efforts).
Margaret Mikulska
David Wake wrote:
> Norrington's Beethoven Promotheus Overture.
Promoting Norrington, eh?
-Margaret
Simon Roberts
Twice. Veritas is the new one, Op 111 the old one (from a decade or so
ago).
Simon
Simon Roberts
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> > top of my head include Brueggen's Beethoven 7/8, MAK's Brandenburgs,
> > Biondi's new Vivaldi op. 8,
>
> I have his 4 seasons a like them a lot. How recent is this new stuff?
Was released some time in the last month or so; good as the earlier Four
Seasons are, this is even better.
>
> Now I just need a recommenadation for Haydn's The Creation and the
> Seven Last Words, and I'll be a happy man.
Seven Last Words is easy: for the choral version, Harnoncourt;
orchestra, Savall; quartet, Mosaiques; piano, Immerseel. Creation is
difficult; I don't think any one recording, HIP or otherwise, really
stands out. I would probably toss a coin between Kuijken's and
Brueggen's.
Simon
Paul Kintzele
"Alfredo E. Rivas" wrote:
>
> Now I just need a recommenadation for Haydn's The Creation and the
> Seven Last Words, and I'll be a happy man.
Haydn's Seven Last Words exists in several versions, as Haydn transposed
the work into some very different genres. I recommend that you start
off with the chamber orchestra version, which was how the work was
originally conceived. Savall's recording is excellent, and it even
includes brief but very powerful Latin readings of the biblical passages
that contain the "words"--normally I would prefer to have just the
music, but these readings really work, and it shows how this work was
composed as responses to a text (and this was how the work was initially
heard). I recently got the choral version (Harnoncourt's) and while
it's interesting, I found it rather odd to hear.
For The Creation, I repeat my recommendation of Gardiner's. Fantastic
chorus, great orchestra, splendid singers, especially Gerald Finley,
whose Raphael is simply marvellous.
Paul