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randy...@gmail.com
Mar 15, 2013, 7:20:31 PM3/15/13
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How many of Beethoven's String Quartets did the Juilliard Quartet record for RCA in the late 1950s and early 1960s?
I find four LPs with five quartets.
LSC 2192 has Op. 59 No. 2 (1957)
LSC 2765 has Op. 132 (1959)
LSC 2632 has Op. 95 and Op. 135 (1960)
LSC has Op. 131 (1962)
Does anyone kow about any more than that?
Is anyone fanatical enough about the Juiliiard Quartet to offer up a comparison to the other (later) Juilliard Beethoven recordings? Of their Bartok sets I far far prefer the one from this era, so I wonder if the RCA Beethoven, however much there is, is comparably superior to their later Beethoven, particularly the first complete traversal for Columbia/CBS.
I find four LPs with five quartets.
LSC 2192 has Op. 59 No. 2 (1957)
LSC 2765 has Op. 132 (1959)
LSC 2632 has Op. 95 and Op. 135 (1960)
LSC has Op. 131 (1962)
Does anyone kow about any more than that?
Is anyone fanatical enough about the Juiliiard Quartet to offer up a comparison to the other (later) Juilliard Beethoven recordings? Of their Bartok sets I far far prefer the one from this era, so I wonder if the RCA Beethoven, however much there is, is comparably superior to their later Beethoven, particularly the first complete traversal for Columbia/CBS.
dw
Mar 17, 2013, 5:29:59 AM3/17/13
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Testament CD) and with its CBS counterpart confirms my memory that,
while the interpretations aren't much different (the timings of each
movement almost identical, except for the finale), the RCA is
technically superior in terms of ensemble, intonation and recorded
balance.
Steve Emerson
Mar 18, 2013, 3:33:48 PM3/18/13
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In article <049c5850-b5ef-456e...@googlegroups.com>,
> Does anyone kow about any more than that?
> Is anyone fanatical enough about the Juiliiard Quartet to offer up a
> comparison to the other (later) Juilliard Beethoven recordings? Of their
> Bartok sets I far far prefer the one from this era, so I wonder if the RCA
> Beethoven, however much there is, is comparably superior to their later
> Beethoven, particularly the first complete traversal for Columbia/CBS.
The RCA LPs (of which I have all but the Op 59/2 that you mention) are
must-have, pantheon recordings; at least if you have any liking at all
for the Juilliard SQ. I wouldn't take the '60s CBS as a substitute. (And
no, to my knowledge, there aren't any other RCAs.)
FWIW, the (c) dates shown on my records are:
2765 1964
2626 1962
2632 1963
In contrast with your dates, this does put the chronology into line with
the release numbers.
SE.
randy...@gmail.com wrote:
> How many of Beethoven's String Quartets did the Juilliard Quartet record for
> RCA in the late 1950s and early 1960s?
> I find four LPs with five quartets.
>
> LSC 2192 has Op. 59 No. 2 (1957)
> LSC 2765 has Op. 132 (1959)
> LSC 2632 has Op. 95 and Op. 135 (1960)
> LSC has Op. 131 (1962)
That one is LSC-2626
> How many of Beethoven's String Quartets did the Juilliard Quartet record for
> RCA in the late 1950s and early 1960s?
> I find four LPs with five quartets.
>
> LSC 2192 has Op. 59 No. 2 (1957)
> LSC 2765 has Op. 132 (1959)
> LSC 2632 has Op. 95 and Op. 135 (1960)
> LSC has Op. 131 (1962)
> Does anyone kow about any more than that?
> Is anyone fanatical enough about the Juiliiard Quartet to offer up a
> comparison to the other (later) Juilliard Beethoven recordings? Of their
> Bartok sets I far far prefer the one from this era, so I wonder if the RCA
> Beethoven, however much there is, is comparably superior to their later
> Beethoven, particularly the first complete traversal for Columbia/CBS.
must-have, pantheon recordings; at least if you have any liking at all
for the Juilliard SQ. I wouldn't take the '60s CBS as a substitute. (And
no, to my knowledge, there aren't any other RCAs.)
FWIW, the (c) dates shown on my records are:
2765 1964
2626 1962
2632 1963
In contrast with your dates, this does put the chronology into line with
the release numbers.
SE.
td
Mar 18, 2013, 3:13:55 PM3/18/13
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On Mar 18, 2:33 pm, Steve Emerson <eme...@n-n-nospamsonic.net> wrote:
> The RCA LPs (of which I have all but the Op 59/2 that you mention) are
> must-have, pantheon recordings; at least if you have any liking at all
> for the Juilliard SQ. I wouldn't take the '60s CBS as a substitute. (And
> no, to my knowledge, there aren't any other RCAs.)
Of Beethoven, correct.
> The RCA LPs (of which I have all but the Op 59/2 that you mention) are
> must-have, pantheon recordings; at least if you have any liking at all
> for the Juilliard SQ. I wouldn't take the '60s CBS as a substitute. (And
> no, to my knowledge, there aren't any other RCAs.)
But there is a Haydn LP (monaural, I seem to recall), which has not
shown up on CD yet, I believe.
TD
Bob Harper
Mar 18, 2013, 3:46:50 PM3/18/13
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material from its greatest period; Too little has been reissued.
Bob Harper
Bob Harper
Mar 18, 2013, 3:52:52 PM3/18/13
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from Op. 77/ is miraculous.
randy...@gmail.com
Mar 18, 2013, 4:10:12 PM3/18/13
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LSC-2524 - Dvorak Op. 61 and Wolf Italian Serenade.
LSC-2378 - Schubert Death and the Maiden and Quartetsatz.
LM-2168 - Haydn Op. 77 #1 and Op. 74 #1
LSC-2413 - Debussy and Ravel
LM-2167 - Mozart Quartets Kv387 and Kv465
LSC-2481 - Carter Quartet and Schuman Quartet #3
LSC-2531 - Webern 5 Movmnts Op. 9
LSC-3048 - Mozart Quintet Kv515 w. Trampler
wade
Mar 18, 2013, 4:14:15 PM3/18/13
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Frank Berger
Mar 18, 2013, 5:09:22 PM3/18/13
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isn't given.
Steve Emerson
Mar 18, 2013, 7:25:25 PM3/18/13
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In article <2a11875c-c283-4ac2...@googlegroups.com>,
RCA.
SE.
randy...@gmail.com wrote:
> There's also:
> LSC-2524 - Dvorak Op. 61 and Wolf Italian Serenade.
> LSC-2378 - Schubert Death and the Maiden and Quartetsatz.
> LM-2168 - Haydn Op. 77 #1 and Op. 74 #1
> LSC-2413 - Debussy and Ravel
> LM-2167 - Mozart Quartets Kv387 and Kv465
> LSC-2481 - Carter Quartet and Schuman Quartet #3
> LSC-2531 - Webern 5 Movmnts Op. 9
> LSC-3048 - Mozart Quintet Kv515 w. Trampler
I was just answering the question whether there was other Beethoven on
> There's also:
> LSC-2524 - Dvorak Op. 61 and Wolf Italian Serenade.
> LSC-2378 - Schubert Death and the Maiden and Quartetsatz.
> LM-2168 - Haydn Op. 77 #1 and Op. 74 #1
> LSC-2413 - Debussy and Ravel
> LM-2167 - Mozart Quartets Kv387 and Kv465
> LSC-2481 - Carter Quartet and Schuman Quartet #3
> LSC-2531 - Webern 5 Movmnts Op. 9
> LSC-3048 - Mozart Quintet Kv515 w. Trampler
RCA.
SE.
Tassilo
Mar 29, 2013, 4:19:01 PM3/29/13
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Are you sure that there’s an RCA recording of Beethoven’s op. 59, no. 2, with the Juilliard Quartet? I’ve never heard of it before, the Juilliard Quartet discography I have does not list it, and RCA LM 2192 seems to be a recording of the Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto with Heifetz, Reiner, and the CSO.
In any case, here are the recording dates for the only four Beethoven quartets that, to my knowledge, the Juilliard Quartet ever recorded for RCA:
Beethoven: op. 95, op. 135. RCA LSC 2632, recorded April & October, 1960
Beethoven: op. 131. RCA 2626, recorded 28 March & 1 & 4 April, 1960
Beethoven, op. 132. RCA 2765, recorded September, 1959
To my ears the RCA recordings with Robert Mann, Isidore Cohen, Raphael Hillyer, and Claus Adam are quite distinct from the later CBS recordings of these works.
-david gable
In any case, here are the recording dates for the only four Beethoven quartets that, to my knowledge, the Juilliard Quartet ever recorded for RCA:
Beethoven: op. 95, op. 135. RCA LSC 2632, recorded April & October, 1960
Beethoven: op. 131. RCA 2626, recorded 28 March & 1 & 4 April, 1960
Beethoven, op. 132. RCA 2765, recorded September, 1959
To my ears the RCA recordings with Robert Mann, Isidore Cohen, Raphael Hillyer, and Claus Adam are quite distinct from the later CBS recordings of these works.
-david gable
Tassilo
Mar 29, 2013, 4:54:07 PM3/29/13
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On Monday, March 18, 2013 4:10:12 PM UTC-4, Randy Lane wrote:
> There's also:
> LSC-2481 - Carter Quartet and Schuman Quartet #3
That’s Carter’s 2nd quartet, which was commissioned for and premiered by the Juilliard Quartet just before they recorded it for RCA. At the time the members of the quartet were Robert Mann, Isidore Cohen, Raphael Hillyer, and Claus Adam, which is the lineup for all of the RCA recordings.
To my own surprise, I actually prefer and by a considerable margin the second of the JSQ’s three recordings of the 2nd quartet, which has never been reissued on CD:
String Quartet no. 2 (1959)
[coupled with String Quartet no. 3]
The Juilliard String Quartet
Robert Mann & Earl Carlyss, violins;
Raphael Hillyer, viola; Claus Adam, cello
Recorded February 19, 1969
Columbia M 32738 (LP), (P) 1974
This was only released in 1974 after the JSQ had premiered and recorded the 3rd quartet. The JSQ recorded the 2nd Quartet a third time for Sony in May and June of 1991 with Robert Mann, Joel Smirnoff, Samuel Rhodes, and Joel Krosnick, the last of the JSQ lineups with Robert Mann as first violinist. As good as this third recording is, it suffers somewhat from a loss over the years in Mann’s sheer physical dexterity.
> LSC-2531 - Webern 5 Movmnts Op. 9
You’re conflating two pieces there. The works on that disc are:
Alban Berg: Lyric Suite
Anton Webern: Five Movments for String Quartet, op. 5
Anton Webern: Six Bagatelles for String Quartet, op. 9
Recorded in May & September, 1959, this anthology was reissued on CD intact on Japanese RCA/BMG BVCC 37328 (or 74321-91624-2). On Testament, the Lyric Suite is coupled with the Carter 2nd and Schuman 3rd, the Webern with the Debussy and Ravel quartets. As far as I’m concerned, these are the greatest recordings of any of these three works in existence.
-david gable
> There's also:
> LSC-2481 - Carter Quartet and Schuman Quartet #3
To my own surprise, I actually prefer and by a considerable margin the second of the JSQ’s three recordings of the 2nd quartet, which has never been reissued on CD:
String Quartet no. 2 (1959)
[coupled with String Quartet no. 3]
The Juilliard String Quartet
Robert Mann & Earl Carlyss, violins;
Raphael Hillyer, viola; Claus Adam, cello
Recorded February 19, 1969
Columbia M 32738 (LP), (P) 1974
This was only released in 1974 after the JSQ had premiered and recorded the 3rd quartet. The JSQ recorded the 2nd Quartet a third time for Sony in May and June of 1991 with Robert Mann, Joel Smirnoff, Samuel Rhodes, and Joel Krosnick, the last of the JSQ lineups with Robert Mann as first violinist. As good as this third recording is, it suffers somewhat from a loss over the years in Mann’s sheer physical dexterity.
> LSC-2531 - Webern 5 Movmnts Op. 9
Alban Berg: Lyric Suite
Anton Webern: Five Movments for String Quartet, op. 5
Anton Webern: Six Bagatelles for String Quartet, op. 9
Recorded in May & September, 1959, this anthology was reissued on CD intact on Japanese RCA/BMG BVCC 37328 (or 74321-91624-2). On Testament, the Lyric Suite is coupled with the Carter 2nd and Schuman 3rd, the Webern with the Debussy and Ravel quartets. As far as I’m concerned, these are the greatest recordings of any of these three works in existence.
-david gable
Frank Berger
Mar 29, 2013, 4:56:23 PM3/29/13
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Tassilo wrote:
> Are you sure that there�s an RCA recording of Beethoven�s op. 59, no.
> I�ve never heard of it before, the
Composer: BEETHOVEN, Work: String Quartet No. 8 in E minor, op. 59, no. 2,
Performer: Juilliard String Quartet, Date: 1964-05-04
Catalogue: Gray
CatNum: BSC-152
Date: 1964-05-04
Venue: New York, Columbia 30th Street Studio
Label: Epic
Performer: Juilliard String Quartet
Composer: BEETHOVEN
Title: String Quartet No. 8 in E minor, op. 59, no. 2
> Are you sure that there�s an RCA recording of Beethoven�s op. 59, no.
> 2, with the Juilliard Quartet?
Yes. It's on Sony 87889.
> I�ve never heard of it before, the
> Juilliard Quartet discography I have does not list it, and RCA LM
> 2192 seems to be a recording of the Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto with
> Heifetz, Reiner, and the CSO.
>
Cut from the Charm database:
> 2192 seems to be a recording of the Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto with
> Heifetz, Reiner, and the CSO.
>
Composer: BEETHOVEN, Work: String Quartet No. 8 in E minor, op. 59, no. 2,
Performer: Juilliard String Quartet, Date: 1964-05-04
Catalogue: Gray
CatNum: BSC-152
Date: 1964-05-04
Venue: New York, Columbia 30th Street Studio
Label: Epic
Performer: Juilliard String Quartet
Composer: BEETHOVEN
Title: String Quartet No. 8 in E minor, op. 59, no. 2
Randy Lane
Mar 29, 2013, 6:17:49 PM3/29/13
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Wrong label.
Frank Berger
Mar 29, 2013, 6:34:15 PM3/29/13
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Randy Lane wrote:
> Wrong label.
I you responding to my post? I can't tell because you didn't quote
anything.
> Wrong label.
I you responding to my post? I can't tell because you didn't quote
anything.
Randy Lane
Mar 29, 2013, 7:21:14 PM3/29/13
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Your post is for the later Epic/CBS release.
Here's teh RCA :
Composer: BEETHOVEN, Work: String Quartet No. 8 in E minor, op. 59, no. 2, Performer: Juilliard String Quartet, Date: 1957-12-09
Catalogue: Gray
CatNum: LSC-2192]
Date: 1957-12-09
Venue: New York, Webster Hall
Label: RCA Victor
Performer: Juilliard String Quartet
Composer: BEETHOVEN
Title: String Quartet No. 8 in E minor, op. 59, no. 2
LpNum: LSC-2192]
Composer: BEETHOVEN
Title: String Quartet No. 8 in E minor, op. 59, no. 2
Randy Lane
Mar 29, 2013, 7:22:31 PM3/29/13
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On Friday, March 29, 2013 1:19:01 PM UTC-7, Tassilo wrote:
> Are you sure that there’s an RCA recording of Beethoven’s op. 59, no. 2, with the Juilliard Quartet? I’ve never heard of it before, the Juilliard Quartet discography I have does not list it, and RCA LM 2192 seems to be a recording of the Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto with Heifetz, Reiner, and the CSO.
>
>
>
> In any case, here are the recording dates for the only four Beethoven quartets that, to my knowledge, the Juilliard Quartet ever recorded for RCA:
>
>
>
> Beethoven: op. 95, op. 135. RCA LSC 2632, recorded April & October, 1960
>
> Beethoven: op. 131. RCA 2626, recorded 28 March & 1 & 4 April, 1960
>
> Beethoven, op. 132. RCA 2765, recorded September, 1959
>
>
> Are you sure that there’s an RCA recording of Beethoven’s op. 59, no. 2, with the Juilliard Quartet? I’ve never heard of it before, the Juilliard Quartet discography I have does not list it, and RCA LM 2192 seems to be a recording of the Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto with Heifetz, Reiner, and the CSO.
>
>
>
> In any case, here are the recording dates for the only four Beethoven quartets that, to my knowledge, the Juilliard Quartet ever recorded for RCA:
>
>
>
> Beethoven: op. 95, op. 135. RCA LSC 2632, recorded April & October, 1960
>
> Beethoven: op. 131. RCA 2626, recorded 28 March & 1 & 4 April, 1960
>
> Beethoven, op. 132. RCA 2765, recorded September, 1959
>
>
Tassilo
Mar 29, 2013, 11:20:02 PM3/29/13
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On Friday, March 29, 2013 7:21:14 PM UTC-4, Randy Lane wrote:
> Composer: BEETHOVEN, Work: String Quartet No. 8 in E minor, op. 59, no. 2, Performer: Juilliard String Quartet, Date: 1957-12-09
> Catalogue: Gray
> CatNum: LSC-2192]
> Date: 1957-12-09
> Venue: New York, Webster Hall
> Label: RCA Victor
> Performer: Juilliard String Quartet
> Composer: BEETHOVEN
> Title: String Quartet No. 8 in E minor, op. 59, no. 2
> LpNum: LSC-2192]
Can anybody steer me to any reference to this recording online and preferably to a copy of the LP? I’ve never seen this record listed on eBay or anywhere else. The Juilliard Quartet discography I have does not list it. Two friends who are even bigger fans of the JSQ than I am are completely unaware of its existence. Enter the catalogue numbers for the other three RCA JSQ Beethoven LP’s in Google and something pops up. Not so the elusive LSC-2192. Do a search for “Beethoven Juilliard” on eBay and copies of the other three LP’s invariably pop up. Not so LSC-2192. (More than one reference to a Heifetz-Reiner Tchaikovsky Vln Cto pops up attached to this number on Google, but the last two digits of the catalogue number are inverted in those listings: the Heifetz disc is LSC 2129).
> Composer: BEETHOVEN, Work: String Quartet No. 8 in E minor, op. 59, no. 2, Performer: Juilliard String Quartet, Date: 1957-12-09
> Catalogue: Gray
> CatNum: LSC-2192]
> Date: 1957-12-09
> Venue: New York, Webster Hall
> Label: RCA Victor
> Performer: Juilliard String Quartet
> Composer: BEETHOVEN
> Title: String Quartet No. 8 in E minor, op. 59, no. 2
> LpNum: LSC-2192]
-david gable
Bob Lombard
Mar 30, 2013, 9:31:44 AM3/30/13
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On 3/29/2013 11:20 PM, Tassilo wrote:
> On Friday, March 29, 2013 7:21:14 PM UTC-4, Randy Lane wrote:
>
>> Composer: BEETHOVEN, Work: String Quartet No. 8 in E minor, op. 59, no. 2, Performer: Juilliard String Quartet, Date: 1957-12-09
>> Catalogue: Gray
>> CatNum: LSC-2192]
>> Date: 1957-12-09
>> Venue: New York, Webster Hall
>> Label: RCA Victor
>> Performer: Juilliard String Quartet
>> Composer: BEETHOVEN
>> Title: String Quartet No. 8 in E minor, op. 59, no. 2
>> LpNum: LSC-2192]
> Can anybody steer me to any reference to this recording online and preferably to a copy of the LP? I�ve never seen this record listed on eBay or anywhere else. The Juilliard Quartet discography I have does not list it. Two friends who are even bigger fans of the JSQ than I am are completely unaware of its existence. Enter the catalogue numbers for the other three RCA JSQ Beethoven LP�s in Google and something pops up. Not so the elusive LSC-2192. Do a search for �Beethoven Juilliard� on eBay and copies of the other three LP�s invariably pop up. Not so LSC-2192. (More than one reference to a Heifetz-Reiner Tchaikovsky Vln Cto pops up attached to this number on Google, but the last two digits of the catalogue number are inverted in those listings: the Heifetz disc is LSC 2129).
> On Friday, March 29, 2013 7:21:14 PM UTC-4, Randy Lane wrote:
>
>> Composer: BEETHOVEN, Work: String Quartet No. 8 in E minor, op. 59, no. 2, Performer: Juilliard String Quartet, Date: 1957-12-09
>> Catalogue: Gray
>> CatNum: LSC-2192]
>> Date: 1957-12-09
>> Venue: New York, Webster Hall
>> Label: RCA Victor
>> Performer: Juilliard String Quartet
>> Composer: BEETHOVEN
>> Title: String Quartet No. 8 in E minor, op. 59, no. 2
>> LpNum: LSC-2192]
>
> -david gable
Have you tried a search at Gemm, David? Not much hope, I suppose, but
it's another place to look.
bl
Bob Lombard
Mar 30, 2013, 10:36:33 AM3/30/13
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http://www.gemm.com/c/search.pl?field=MUSIC&wild=Beethoven+Juilliard+59%2F2&Go.x=16&Go.y=11
which is of damn little use.
bl
fosterg
Mar 30, 2013, 4:46:24 PM3/30/13
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On Friday, March 15, 2013 7:20:31 PM UTC-4, Randy Lane wrote:
> How many of Beethoven's String Quartets did the Juilliard Quartet record for RCA in the late 1950s and early 1960s?
>
> I find four LPs with five quartets.
>
>
>
> LSC 2192 has Op. 59 No. 2 (1957)
>
> LSC 2765 has Op. 132 (1959)
>
> LSC 2632 has Op. 95 and Op. 135 (1960)
>
> LSC has Op. 131 (1962)
>
>
>
> Does anyone kow about any more than that?
LSC-2192 does not show up in "Schwann" catalogs from the late 50's and early 60's.
> How many of Beethoven's String Quartets did the Juilliard Quartet record for RCA in the late 1950s and early 1960s?
>
> I find four LPs with five quartets.
>
>
>
> LSC 2192 has Op. 59 No. 2 (1957)
>
> LSC 2765 has Op. 132 (1959)
>
> LSC 2632 has Op. 95 and Op. 135 (1960)
>
> LSC has Op. 131 (1962)
>
>
>
> Does anyone kow about any more than that?
Perhaps a catalog number was assigned and the recording shelved or recorded and not issued?
FG
td
Mar 30, 2013, 5:34:23 PM3/30/13
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number is not attributed. The two closest in the catalogue are LSC
2183 (The Reiner Sound), and LSC 2195 (Copland: Billy the Kid and
Rodeo with Morton Gould and his orchestra).
Sounds like a false lead to me.
TD
Tassilo
Mar 30, 2013, 5:56:45 PM3/30/13
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On Saturday, March 30, 2013 5:34:23 PM UTC-4, td wrote:
> According to Jonathan Valin's "LIVING STEREO: The RCA Bible", this
> number is not attributed. The two closest in the catalogue are LSC
> 2183 (The Reiner Sound), and LSC 2195 (Copland: Billy the Kid and
> Rodeo with Morton Gould and his orchestra).
> Sounds like a false lead to me.
I don't believe that that record (RCA Beethoven Op. 59, no. 2 with the JSQ) exists either.
> According to Jonathan Valin's "LIVING STEREO: The RCA Bible", this
> number is not attributed. The two closest in the catalogue are LSC
> 2183 (The Reiner Sound), and LSC 2195 (Copland: Billy the Kid and
> Rodeo with Morton Gould and his orchestra).
> Sounds like a false lead to me.
-dg
td
Mar 30, 2013, 6:24:41 PM3/30/13
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recordings. It is highly doubtful that he would have missed or omitted
it if it existed. I also assume that he had access to RCA Victor's
files in preparing his book, which is definitive on the subject.
TD
Alan Cooper
Mar 31, 2013, 8:32:19 AM3/31/13
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Tassilo <david...@aol.com> wrote in
news:8b4aedc3-dbfa-4b72...@googlegroups.com:
Agreed, but the question remains: was a number assigned for a recording
that was never made, or was a recording made that was never issued? Cf.
the Busch Quartet's 1941 recording of Beethoven 59/2, first issued about
ten years ago!
AC
news:8b4aedc3-dbfa-4b72...@googlegroups.com:
that was never made, or was a recording made that was never issued? Cf.
the Busch Quartet's 1941 recording of Beethoven 59/2, first issued about
ten years ago!
AC
nach...@earthlink.net
Apr 1, 2013, 12:37:00 AM4/1/13
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Just an addition to this thread. There is a marvelous CD from the Swiss Radio of the Juilliard live doing Op. 135 and the Berg Lyric Suite. It's from 1970 with the lineup of Mann, Carlyss, Rhodes and Adam. I think this is when they recorded for CBS, but the sound is infinitely better than anything I've heard on CBS and in my opinion the performance of Op. 135 far surpasses their earlier one on RCA.
If you'd like to buy this it's part of a 10 cd box called Great Chamber Music on the Aura label. Amazon has it for about $20. The set also includes some marvelous performances by the Smetana Quartet and the Quartetto Italiano.
Martin
If you'd like to buy this it's part of a 10 cd box called Great Chamber Music on the Aura label. Amazon has it for about $20. The set also includes some marvelous performances by the Smetana Quartet and the Quartetto Italiano.
Martin
Tassilo
Apr 1, 2013, 5:56:41 PM4/1/13
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On Monday, April 1, 2013 12:37:00 AM UTC-4, nach...@earthlink.net wrote:
> Just an addition to this thread. There is a marvelous CD from the Swiss Radio of the Juilliard live doing Op. 135 and the Berg Lyric Suite. It's from 1970 with the lineup of Mann, Carlyss, Rhodes and Adam. I think this is when they recorded for CBS, but the sound is infinitely better than anything I've heard on CBS and in my opinion the performance of Op. 135 far surpasses their earlier one on RCA.
>
> If you'd like to buy this it's part of a 10 cd box called Great Chamber Music on the Aura label. Amazon has it for about $20. The set also includes some marvelous performances by the Smetana Quartet and the Quartetto Italiano.
The Aura disc with the JSQ playing 135 and the Lyric Suite used to be available as a single disc and may still be if you can find it, although I still think the 1959 RCA recording of the Lyric Suite with the JSQ is the greatest performance of the LS I've ever heard.
> Just an addition to this thread. There is a marvelous CD from the Swiss Radio of the Juilliard live doing Op. 135 and the Berg Lyric Suite. It's from 1970 with the lineup of Mann, Carlyss, Rhodes and Adam. I think this is when they recorded for CBS, but the sound is infinitely better than anything I've heard on CBS and in my opinion the performance of Op. 135 far surpasses their earlier one on RCA.
>
> If you'd like to buy this it's part of a 10 cd box called Great Chamber Music on the Aura label. Amazon has it for about $20. The set also includes some marvelous performances by the Smetana Quartet and the Quartetto Italiano.
-dg
Peregrine
Aug 21, 2013, 5:26:36 PM8/21/13
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After hearing the Op.131, courtesy of Testament and now the Op.135, thanks to an upload from some kind soul over at SymphonyShare, I'm convinced of the greatness of these recordings and wish they were made readily available by Sony. A Juilliard/RCA box would be most welcome!
Simon
Simon
Bob Harper
Aug 21, 2013, 10:28:41 PM8/21/13
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On 8/21/13 2:26 PM, Peregrine wrote:
> After hearing the Op.131, courtesy of Testament and now the Op.135, thanks to an upload from some kind soul over at SymphonyShare, I'm convinced of the greatness of these recordings and wish they were made readily available by Sony. A Juilliard/RCA box would be most welcome!
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> Simon
Well, there are at least two of us who would purchase it :)
> After hearing the Op.131, courtesy of Testament and now the Op.135, thanks to an upload from some kind soul over at SymphonyShare, I'm convinced of the greatness of these recordings and wish they were made readily available by Sony. A Juilliard/RCA box would be most welcome!
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> Simon
Bob Harper
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DISC 3: Beethoven: String Quartet No. 8 in E Minor, Op. 59 No. 2 "Rasumovsky" (Remastered)
Beethoven: String Quartet No. 2 in G major, Op. 18 No. 2 (Remastered)
So is this the previously unreleased (?) 1957 recording of 59/2 that gave rise to this discussion? What about this 18/2?
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