Pianist Valentina Lisitsa performs in occupied Mariupol

[James Goodzeit]

https://www.donetsk.kp.ru/daily/27390/4584847/

[Chris J.]

On 11 May 2022 James Goodzeit wrote:

> ...donetsk.kp.ru/daily/...

Enough said really.

If you need more information about this Putin parrot:

https://slippedisc.com/2022/04/valentina-lisitsa-is-replaced-by-us-
orchestra/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentina_Lisitsa#Political_views

https://www.rhinegold.co.uk/international_piano/pianists-speak-out-on-
ukraine/

Occupied Mariupol? She will probably call the graveyard and the rubble
Putin c.s. reduced this city to liberated Mariupol.

Chris

[John Fowler]

She reminds me of Elly Ney:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elly_Ney
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JfpE92mDVk
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=elly+ney&i=popular&crid=1HD2TEJW7K0UX&sprefix=elly+ney%2Cpopular%2C82&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

[Andy Evans]

"The world-famous pianist Valentina Lisitsa came to Mariupol to please the citizens with her creativity. The musician played for people in the open air. Different compositions of Russian and foreign composers sounded. The song “Victory Day” became special, those gathered at the mini-concert sang along".

So I presume she's playing to the Russians here. Shameful. I don't see much of a future career for her in the West.

[James Goodzeit]

On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 6:28:45 AM UTC-4, Andy Evans wrote:
> "The world-famous pianist Valentina Lisitsa came to Mariupol to please the citizens with her creativity. The musician played for people in the open air. Different compositions of Russian and foreign composers sounded. The song “Victory Day” became special, those gathered at the mini-concert sang along".
>
> So I presume she's playing to the Russians here. Shameful. I don't see much of a future career for her in the West.

She just signed a 3-year contract with Naïve Records and is supposed to record the complete piano works of Rachmaninoff. However she was on the lineup of classical artists on their website just yesterday, but now appears missing. I wonder if her contract was cancelled.

[MELMOTH]

James Goodzeit vient de nous annoncer :

> She just signed a 3-year contract with Naïve Records and is supposed to
> record the complete piano works of Rachmaninoff

She has recorded a good complete piano work by Tchaikovsky...

[James Goodzeit]

Did Ney ever perform in any cities the nazis had recently destroyed and liquidated a large portion of their population, before the fighting was even over? I mean I have been disgusted with Lisitsa since 2014, but this just goes beyond anything before. I just felt sick when I read about this performance.

[James Goodzeit]

It seems the only Tchaikovsky piano work I have is Richter's recording of the Grand Sonata (coupled with Pictures at an Exhibition). Is there other Tchaikovsky piano music that one should have (obviously not performed by Lisitsa - or Berezovsky, Matsuev, Pletnev for that matter)?

[raymond....@gmail.com]

On Thursday, 12 May 2022 at 20:28:45 UTC+10, Andy Evans wrote:
> "The world-famous pianist Valentina Lisitsa came to Mariupol to please the citizens with her creativity. The musician played for people in the open air. Different compositions of Russian and foreign composers sounded. The song “Victory Day” became special, those gathered at the mini-concert sang along".
>
> So I presume she's playing to the Russians here. Shameful. I don't see much of a future career for her in the West.

Apparently she made pro-Russian (very provocative) remarks back in 2014-15 on Twitter which resulted in the Toronto SO cancelling all dates with her. Fwiw, her mother is Russian/Polish, and her father Ukrainian.

Ray Hall, Taree

[Ricardo Jimenez]

The best (or the only good) Tchaikovsky solo piano piece is the Dumka.
It has been recorded by Horowitz and many others.

[Ricardo Jimenez]

Has Arcady Volodos had anything to say about these matters? He has
been touring in Germany and Austria recently. Is that where he lives?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Az0jiGY4c&ab_channel=IgorBerovKlaviermeister

[Mr. Mike]

On Thu, 12 May 2022 09:16:41 -0700 (PDT), "raymond....@gmail.com"
<raymond....@gmail.com> wrote:

>Apparently she made pro-Russian (very provocative) remarks back in 2014-15 on Twitter which resulted in the Toronto SO cancelling all dates with her. Fwiw, her mother is Russian/Polish, and her father Ukrainian

https://www.wqxr.org/story/orchestra-drops-valentina-lisitsa-over-deeply-offensive-tweets/

[number_six]

On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 3:28:45 AM UTC-7, Andy Evans wrote:
> "The world-famous pianist Valentina Lisitsa came to Mariupol to please the citizens with her creativity. The musician played for people in the open air. Different compositions of Russian and foreign composers sounded. The song “Victory Day” became special, those gathered at the mini-concert sang along".
>
> So I presume she's playing to the Russians here. Shameful. I don't see much of a future career for her in the West.

I have the Victory Day cd by Alexandrov Choir -- but I did NOT give it a celebratory spin on 9 May...!

[LarryLap]

Her remarks were not so pro-Russian as they were demeaning and contemptuous of Ukrainians, whom she described as pigs and vermin, employing rhetoric which must have made the heart of every active member of the Joseph Goebbels fan club beat with pride and gratification, knowing that, while their hero may have left us, his spirit lives on.

My music collection is now and shall ever remain free of her droppings.

Larry Lapidus

[Dan Koren]

On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 10:01:31 AM UTC-7, Ricardo Jimenez wrote:
>
> The best (or the only good) Tchaikovsky solo piano piece is the Dumka.

Bollocks. The Seasons are wonderful

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nG09a7vQjW8iMLJlyfSt7-jIG3fE8jaBQ

and the Sonatas are masterpieces

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kSHbWehwBQd1ms32JCvgT67pkOv50fZAE

dk

[James Goodzeit]

Seasons and Sonatas without Pletnev? Don't want to support kiddie diddlers and/or Putin parrots.

[Chris J.]

On 12 May 2022 LarryLap wrote:

> Her remarks were not so pro-Russian as they were demeaning and
> contemptuous of Ukrainians,

Which is a Russian and later also a Soviet tradition. going back to the
days of the Russian empire. Czar Vladimir Putin and his parrots have
revived it.

Chris

[James Goodzeit]

I've just recently learned of an "Executed Renaissance" generation of Ukrainian artists who existed in the early Soviet years, and existed until Stalin implemented his Great Break.

[Dan Koren]

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 5:35:15 AM UTC-7, james.g...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 8:26:00 PM UTC-4, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 10:01:31 AM UTC-7, Ricardo Jimenez wrote:
> > >
> > > The best (or the only good) Tchaikovsky solo piano piece is the Dumka.
> > Bollocks. The Seasons are wonderful
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nG09a7vQjW8iMLJlyfSt7-jIG3fE8jaBQ
> >
> > and the Sonatas are masterpieces
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kSHbWehwBQd1ms32JCvgT67pkOv50fZAE
>

> Seasons and Sonatas without Pletnev?

Zhukov, and others.

> Don't want to support kiddie diddlers

No evidence was presented
and charges were dismissed.
It transpired later the charges
were made up.

> and/or Putin parrots.

I have not noticed Pletnev
acting as a Putin PR agent
-- unlike Gergiev, Lisitsa or
Matsuev. Can you provide
links to any evidence?

dk

[Dan Koren]

On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 5:19:27 PM UTC-7, LarryLap wrote:
>
> Her remarks were not so pro-Russian as they were
> demeaning and contemptuous of Ukrainians, whom
> she described as pigs and vermin, employing rhetoric
> which must have made the heart of every active member
> of the Joseph Goebbels fan club beat with pride and
> gratification, knowing that, while their hero may have
> left us, his spirit lives on.
>

Very bizarre considering she is herself half Ukrainian.

dk

[Dan Koren]

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 10:27:13 AM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 5:35:15 AM UTC-7, james.g...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 8:26:00 PM UTC-4, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 10:01:31 AM UTC-7, Ricardo Jimenez wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The best (or the only good) Tchaikovsky solo piano piece is the Dumka.
> > > Bollocks. The Seasons are wonderful
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nG09a7vQjW8iMLJlyfSt7-jIG3fE8jaBQ
> > >
> > > and the Sonatas are masterpieces
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kSHbWehwBQd1ms32JCvgT67pkOv50fZAE
> >
> > Seasons and Sonatas without Pletnev?
>
> Zhukov, and others.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nRCkhgyb-pw_Pum28BCGmW5mehRKkgFJw

dk

[Dan Koren]

Ashkenazy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ABGZhFsXYI

Lang van Bang:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu6KRFsjwEA

Olga Scheps:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBYu3MoLzzs

Radu Lupu:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L63LkH8FBpA

Plenty of choice!

dk

[Dan Koren]

Konstantin Igumnov:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDXlAE6FT2I

Natalia Trull:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxO4Rschtpg

Elisso Virsaladze (Georgian pianist):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxa1aiEz2pQ

Viktor Bunin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC8gCQ72KXQ

More Lang van More Bang:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOBigSRs6wo

dk

[James Goodzeit]

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 1:27:13 PM UTC-4, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> > Don't want to support kiddie diddlers
> No evidence was presented
> and charges were dismissed.
> It transpired later the charges
> were made up.

That would be good to know! Sauce? I know he's one of the foremost Tchaikovsky interpreters, but I have avoided him all these years for that reason.

> > and/or Putin parrots.
>
> I have not noticed Pletnev
> acting as a Putin PR agent
> -- unlike Gergiev, Lisitsa or
> Matsuev. Can you provide
> links to any evidence?
>
> dk

Nothing recent, and can't find anything from years ago. He doesn't seem to be saying much, if anything at all, about his stance, and with very good reason:

https://slippedisc.com/2022/04/moscow-apparatchik-takes-over-mikhail-pletnevs-orchestra/

Former director of the RNO, Svetlana Rips made the following FB post which could have well led to her ousting:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=4881022185327882&set=a.423860394377439

[Frank Berger]

I can find no evidence that the charges were fabricated. What we know is that he was not charged, which means nothing. We have no idea if he did the deed.

[Dan Koren]

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 1:20:17 PM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
> On 5/13/2022 3:28 PM, James Goodzeit wrote:
> > On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 1:27:13 PM UTC-4, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> Don't want to support kiddie diddlers
> >> No evidence was presented
> >> and charges were dismissed.
> >> It transpired later the charges
> >> were made up.
> >
> > That would be good to know! Sauce? I know he's one of the foremost Tchaikovsky interpreters, but I have avoided him all these years for that reason.
> >
> >>> and/or Putin parrots.
> >>
> >> I have not noticed Pletnev
> >> acting as a Putin PR agent
> >> -- unlike Gergiev, Lisitsa or
> >> Matsuev. Can you provide
> >> links to any evidence?
> >

> > Nothing recent, and can't find anything from years ago.

https://slippedisc.com/2010/12/breaking_news_mikhail_pletnev/

And note Lebrecht is no fan or friend of MP.

dk

[Dan Koren]

https://www.bbc.com/news/10535273

Why is your Google incapable of
finding information my Google
finds immediately?

dk

[Dan Koren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aypGV1VtkjI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF6b5uE_gj8

dk

[Robert Marshall]

I think the Op 19 nocturne is lovely

https://youtu.be/WX9zYRsEN9Q

... here played by Gilels

Robert
--
Robert Marshall twitter: @rajm