Bax enthusiasts please note.....
Nemo
considering recording the 3rd. and 4th. symphonies - not previously
included in their LP catalogue, therefore not transferred to CD. This
may happen sometime later this year, they couldn't be more specific
than that.
Fine though Vernon Handley's and the late Bryden Thompson's recordings
are, in my humble opinion, Myer Fredman heads the list where Bax
syphonies are concerned and Lyrita's recordings have greater impact
and clarity. As soon as I have any more news, I'll let you know, but
I'm sure that Lyrita will only be too eager to tell you first!
Richard Adams
What extraordinary news. Thank you for letting us know. I agree
that Myer Fredman's Lyrita recording of the Bax 2nd Symphony is
masterful -- easily the finest of that great work, but I've heard his
Australian recording of the 3rd Symphony and I find it disappointing
with surprisingly sluggish tempos a problem throughout. I'm not sure
he'd be my first choice to do the 3rd and 4th symphonies. The
question is, who else is there? Mark Elder is very good in "Spring
Fire" but his "Tintagel" reminds me of Bryden Thomson at his most
indulgent. Hickox has shown little empathy for Bax in the few
recordings he has made. I wish Norman Del Mar was still with us as
his broadcast performance of the Third is the most intense I've
encountered. Martyn Brabbins and Andrew Davis have both given us some
fine Bax and I think they'd be good although I'm sure there are still
better choices. James Judd is interested in doing Bax and I suspect
he'd be excellent. What about non-British conductors? Osmo Vanska,
Andrew Litton, Leonard Slatkin, Sakari Oramo and JoAnn Falletta have
all done some Bax with varying degrees of success. One conductor not
associated with Bax who I think would be excellent would be Antoni Wit
and I base that opinion on his brilliant recordings of Szymanowski.
Any other suggestions you can think of? I do hope Lyrita record the
Third and Fourth because as fine as Vernon Handley's recordings
obviously are, they aren't the last word.
Rich
Nemo
-
Glad I could help! I thought the news might be of interest to someone
out there and I couldn't keep it to myself. Bax's 2nd symphony first
came to my attention courtesy of Myer Fredman and it has been my
benchmark recording ever since. Not even the great "Tod" Handley can
match it and he really knows his Bax. I have 'Spring Fire' recorded by
'Tod' and I'm very pleased with it.
Your question as to who could conduct is a difficult one. I should
think Lyrita will chose a British conductor as this has always been
their practice. James Judd would be my personal choice, closely
followed by Martin Brabbins. Maybe Nicholas Braithwaite? Assuming he's
still with us, I'm not sure.
I'm a great admirer of Antoni Wit, but he seems to be stuck with
Naxos. Nothing wrong with that of course, and the Polish NRSO is an
excellent orchestra. But, I think Lyrita will keep it a purely British
affair. Oh yes, Mark Elder, hmmmm, well, maybe!! I'm not one of his
greatest admirers, but maybe he will surprise us all. I'd forgotten
about Richard Hickox - that man seems to have a magic touch doesn't he?
(well, most of the time!) If his Bax matches his Vaughan Williams, we
shall be in for a rare treat. Watch this space!!
Richard Adams
Hello again...
I've inquired directly with Lyrita and I've been told they have no
plans at this time to make any new recordings of Bax symphonies or
anything else. I'm not sure where Nemo got his information but I'm
afraid it's incorrect. Nevertheless, we can soon enjoy the reissue
of two fo the greatest Bax recordings ever made -- the 2nd with Myer
Fredman and the 5th with Raymond Leppard. This recording will soon be
reviewed on the Bax site.
Rich
Nemo
> Hello again...
>
> I've inquired directly with Lyrita and I've been told they have no
> plans at this time to make any new recordings of Bax symphonies or
> anything else. I'm not sure where Nemo got his information but I'm
> afraid it's incorrect. Nevertheless, we can soon enjoy the reissue
> of two fo the greatest Bax recordings ever made -- the 2nd with Myer
> Fredman and the 5th with Raymond Leppard. This recording will soon be
> reviewed on the Bax site.
>
> Rich
That would appear to contradict the email I received from Lyrita, so
please don't shoot the messenger!! You're right about the 2nd and 5th
symphonies though and my copy will arrive this week.
Nemo
PS. Was your reply from one "Caractacus Downes"? If so, you can
safely ignore it.
Richard Adams
<bri...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>PS. Was your reply from one "Caractacus Downes"? If so, you can
>safely ignore it.
Indeed it was. Why do you say it's safe to ignore?
Nemo
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:16:41 -0800 (PST), Nemo
>
>
> >PS. Was your reply from one "Caractacus Downes"? If so, you can
> >safely ignore it.
>
> Indeed it was. Why do you say it's safe to ignore?
Because after giving this guy a piece of my mind, he passed my email
on to a "higher authority", for want of a better term. I have already
outlined the details of the email I received in my original post, and
the subject of recording Bax 3 and 4 will be high on the agenda of the
next board meeting. So, now you know as much as I do, which admittedly
isn't a hell of a lot, but it's better than nothing and gives us
something to hope for, don't you think?
Regards,
Nemo.
Richard Adams
Absolutely. It's very possible that Lyrita is wanting to keep its
future recording plans very private for now so inquires are being met
with a firm "no." If you hear anymore, please let us know and I'll
do the same. I certainly hope there will be forthcoming recordings
of the symphonies and it would make sense for Lyrita to want to
complete its cycle.
Rich
www.arnoldbax.com
Nemo
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hello again Richard. My thoughts exactly. Perhaps Lyrita will keep
quiet about this until a definite decision has been arrived at. I
doubt they are worried about any competition as Chandos has beaten
them to it twice and of course there is the Naxos Bax cycle.
I was absolutely astonished by the reply I received from "Caractacus",
i.e., that Lyrita wouldn't give us the complete Bax symphonies, but it
seems they may do so after all. I gather that recordings could
possibly, only possibly, commence later this year. If I hear anything
else, I promise you'll be the first to know!
Aaron Z Snyder
6090db...@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
> I was absolutely astonished by the reply I received from "Caractacus",
> i.e., that Lyrita wouldn't give us the complete Bax symphonies, but it
> seems they may do so after all. I gather that recordings could
> possibly, only possibly, commence later this year. If I hear anything
> else, I promise you'll be the first to know!
Speaking of the surname "Downes," does anyone have an opinion about Edward
Downes' LP recording of the Bax 3rd, once available on RCA SB 6806? I seem
to remember reading a lukewarm review of the performance at the time of its
release; yet, when I heard it for the first time just a year ago, I was
quite impressed. I don't think it would be inappropriate for Lyrita to
release this if RCA will relinquish the rights to it. It's from the same
era as all the other recordings, and it is the first stereo recording of
the work. Of course if the aforementioned Del Mar 3rd were made available,
I'd have absolutely no complaint
The Bax 4th would be a tougher issue, since the only recording from that
same era is "Tod" Handley's first recording of it. Would Lyrita want to pit
Handley against Handley?
Just musing out loud. I look forward to good decisions on Lyrita's part.
AZS
Nemo
> Nemo <brit...@googlemail.com> wrote in news:1e16c405-4b55-4d3a-8354-
I'm sorry to say that I haven't heard Sir Edward's recording of the
3rd, but as I already have two - Handley and Thompson - I think I'll
survive!
RCA has, on occasion, made its recordings available to Chandos, so
it's possible it might re-emerge on that label, but as Chandos has
already given us two Bax 3rds, that's probably wishful thinking.
I know Vernon Handley recorded the 4th with the Guildford Philharmonic
sometime in the 1960s, but I don't see this as an obstacle to his
recording it yet again. After all, how many times did Karajan record
Beethoven and Brahms for Deutsche Grammophon? I'm sure that Lyrita
will deliver the goods eventually, maybe with Handley, who knows?
Christopher Webber
>Speaking of the surname "Downes," does anyone have an opinion about
>Edward Downes' LP recording of the Bax 3rd, once available on RCA SB
>6806?
I have a strongly positive opinion, and believe the lukewarm comments
which circulate about this performance are wrong-headed.
Part of the problem was that both the original Red Seal LP issue and the
reissue on Gold Seal suffered very bad luck in the technical department
- both were pressed with off-centre holes. I've tried at least ten
copies and they are all as bad. Of course the cloth-eared reviewers put
this down to poor tuning and playing from the LSO, rather than bad
engineering from RCA!
If you manage to hear a *corrected* transfer, what will you hear? A
virile and musically sensitive performance, not without rough edges
(unimportant) but with some fabulous mass string tuttis (important) and
wonderful woodwind solos (vital). The last movement doesn't quite
maintain the momentum, and there is a growing suspicion that the LSO are
playing Rachmaninov rather than idiomatic Bax. In spite of which, I
believe the Downes performance taken as a whole is a thrilling and
moving experience, quite one of the best ways into Bax's symphonic world
ever recorded.
--
___________________________
Christopher Webber, Blackheath, London, UK.
http://www.zarzuela.net
TareeDawg
> Aaron Z Snyder <azsN...@alum.mit.edu> writes:
>> Speaking of the surname "Downes," does anyone have an opinion about
>> Edward Downes' LP recording of the Bax 3rd, once available on RCA SB
>> 6806?
>
> I have a strongly positive opinion, and believe the lukewarm comments
> which circulate about this performance are wrong-headed.
>
> Part of the problem was that both the original Red Seal LP issue and the
> reissue on Gold Seal suffered very bad luck in the technical department
> - both were pressed with off-centre holes. I've tried at least ten
> copies and they are all as bad. Of course the cloth-eared reviewers put
> this down to poor tuning and playing from the LSO, rather than bad
> engineering from RCA!
I have a copy of the Downes' Bax 3rd (LSO) somehow derived from an RCA
LP onto CD. After a bit of a scratchy beginning, the brass are
thrilling, and yes, it is quite an experience. Hair-raising stuff. Also
The Happy Forest.
Timing I get for the Downe's Bax 3rd is a total 46' 32", and for the
overture 8' 25".
Btw, Previn's LSO of the 70s were in excellent shape. So I might suspect
engineering in part as well.
Ray (Dawg) Hall, Taree
Nemo
> Btw, Previn's LSO of the 70s were in excellent shape. So I might suspect
> engineering in part as well.
>
> Ray (Dawg) Hall, Taree
Previn's LSO was in excellent shape in the 1960s too. Try his 1965 RCA
recording of Shostakovich 5 and you'll see, or rather, hear, what I
mean!
Nemo
>
> - Show quoted text -
I'm happy to report that I received Bax 2 & 5 today (Lyrita SRCD 233)
and I can tell you that this CD is absolutely marvellous. The sound is
stunning and a considerable improvement on the LP version which,
needless to say, was excellent anyway. So, you need not hesitate! I
contacted Lyrita again yesterday re. the 3rd and 4th symphonies, but
as yet I have received no further news.
Aaron Z Snyder
news:43tiihH6...@217.169.1.80:
> Aaron Z Snyder <azsN...@alum.mit.edu> writes:
>>Speaking of the surname "Downes," does anyone have an opinion about
>>Edward Downes' LP recording of the Bax 3rd, once available on RCA SB
>>6806?
> If you manage to hear a *corrected* transfer, what will you hear? A
> virile and musically sensitive performance, not without rough edges
> (unimportant) but with some fabulous mass string tuttis (important) and
> wonderful woodwind solos (vital). The last movement doesn't quite
> maintain the momentum, and there is a growing suspicion that the LSO are
> playing Rachmaninov rather than idiomatic Bax. In spite of which, I
> believe the Downes performance taken as a whole is a thrilling and
> moving experience, quite one of the best ways into Bax's symphonic world
> ever recorded.
I'm very happy to read that my own impressions were similar. On first
hearing this, my first reaction was that this is the best alternative to
the classic Barbirolli recording that I'd ever heard. What fools these
critics be!
AZS
Christopher Webber
I think that is an astute comparison to make. The RCA Downes Bax 3rd now
sounds every bit as "historical" as the Barbirolli, and a very viable
alternative too.
I'm a whole-hearted admirer of the recent Handley version of this
symphony on Chandos (leaner, meaner and making sense of every beat of
every bar) but if it's an older-style, "brazen romantic" performance you
fancy, then the Downes has not I think been surpassed.
Come to think of it, the 3rd has been lucky on disc. It comes over as a
thing of great beauty in all six incarnations, although the Lloyd-Jones
on Naxos is perhaps a tasteful, watercolour rendition rather than
full-dress oil. Even the Fredman LP (Sydney Symphony Orchestra, well
recorded by ABC during a suffocating heatwave) has it's own lurid,
impasto glory!
Nemo
wrote:
>
> I'm a whole-hearted admirer of the recent Handley version of this
> symphony on Chandos (leaner, meaner and making sense of every beat of
> every bar) but if it's an older-style, "brazen romantic" performance you
> fancy, then the Downes has not I think been surpassed.
Bax described himself as "a brazen romantic" (I presume you are
quoting him) so Sir Edward's approach would seem to be most
appropriate. That said, I have not yet had the opportunity of hearing
this recording, although a second-hand copy must be available
somewhere.
Christopher Webber
>Bax described himself as "a brazen romantic" (I presume you are quoting
>him) so Sir Edward's approach would seem to be most appropriate.
I was indeed quoting Bax's famous self-description. It's perilous,
though, to take the epithet at face value. Bax, like many other creative
figures (including his friend Vaughan Williams) often sought to hide his
complexity under a mask of cliched simplicity. "Brazen romantic"
certainly doesn't account for what he wrote, either in the 3rd Symphony
or elsewhere in his work.
Just as RVW's persona of the bluff, hearty Englishman served to hide
many other aspects of his personality, so Bax's "brazen romantic"
provided a smokescreen to obscure many deeper aspects of his character -
personal circumspection and lack of confidence, epicurean precision as
to sonic effect, technical perfectionism - which he was shy about
revealing to his public.
He was a good writer, too; and his programme notes and synopses (at
least for the tone poems) sometimes serve the same function. That for
"Tintagel" is a good case in point, hiding the work's very personal
genesis under the cover of Arthurian legend.
(For which see http://musicweb.uk.net/bax/Tintagel1.htm)
--
"THE ZARZUELA COMPANION" (Scarecrow Press)
Christopher Webber, Foreword by Placido Domingo
http://www.zarzuela.net
Nemo
I'm sure the "romantic" epithet applies even if "brazen" doesn't. I
listened to the 2nd and 7th symphonies again a couple of nights ago
and they certainly sound romantic to me. His technical perfection is
well known, and not just as a composer. When he was a student - was it
the RCM or the RAM? - a professor had heard rumours of Bax's prowess
and to test this, he turned a full orchestral score, from which Bax
was playing at the piano, upside down. He carried on playing as if
nothing untoward had occurred.
Oh yes, Bax the writer. I wish I could get my hands on the complete
works of Dermot O'Byrne, his alter ego. I'm sure I would find some
excellent reading there. All in all, a truly remarkable man.
Christopher Webber
> I wish I could get my hands on the complete works of Dermot O'Byrne,
>his alter ego. I'm sure I would find some excellent reading there.
There's no Complete Works, and Colin Scott-Sutherland's collection of
the poetry and love letters ("Ideala") is eccentrically disorganised, in
so far as it splits up the published collections of lyric verse and only
throws in the most highly significant "Dublin Ballad" collection as a
kind of afterthought. It does, however, contain just about every poem he
ever penned.
Much the best of "Dermot O'Byrne" lies in the short stories, which sad
to say await a proper collected edition, though dribs and drabs have
been reprinted (for example by Lewis Foreman in the latest edition of
Bax's excellent autobiographical sketch "Farewell My Youth".)
That may have to wait until Bax comes out of copyright in Europe, in 15
years' time.
Nemo
Thanks for telling me, even if I am somewhat disappointed! I suppose
I can wait another 15 years, assuming I live that long. I'll hope for
the best!
CharlesSmith
> Bax described himself as "a brazen romantic" (I presume you are
> quoting him) so Sir Edward's approach would seem to be most
> appropriate. That said, I have not yet had the opportunity of hearing
> this recording, although a second-hand copy must be available
> somewhere.
Please excuse me for gatecrashing the Bax fan club. I have S5 (RSNO,
Llloyd-Jones) and S6 (LPO, Thompson). The brazen romantic stuff is
wonderful and powerful. Unfortunately Bax supplements this with
periodic digressions into Delius-like limp, insipid, directionless
meanderings. Have I got the wrong recordings?
For English late-romantic post-impressionism I much prefer Cyril Scott
- even more poorly represented on CD.
Nemo
"Right" or "wrong" performances are surely a matter of personal
taste? As long as you enjoy them, they will be the "right"
recordings. I haven't heard the Naxos discs, but I still like Bryden
Thompson's readings of these works, even if his tempi tend to drag a
little at times.
I'm sorry to say that I'm really not familiar enough with Cyril
Scott's works to make any comment, but there are many worthwhile
composers under-represented on CD.
Christopher Webber
> I have S5 (RSNO, Llloyd-Jones) and S6 (LPO, Thompson). The brazen
>romantic stuff is wonderful and powerful. Unfortunately Bax supplements
>this with periodic digressions into Delius-like limp, insipid,
>directionless meanderings. Have I got the wrong recordings?
Both those would to my ears be amongst the weaker in their respective
cycles, though they're not bad; so rather than Wrong Recordings, it may
be a case of Wrong Ears!
The notion that Delius (or indeed Bax) wrote "limp, insipid,
directionless meanderings" suggests some failure to comprehend what they
are doing. Both at their best are formal masters - provided of course
the listener is not tuned in to expect something like the 19th century
romantic, sonata form development you'd find, for example, in Elgar.
No. They work their material in quite a different way. We need to listen
"vertically" (down the page, in the moment) as well as "horizontally"
(across the page, through time), though not so rigorously as with, say,
Takemitsu - perhaps the "vertical" composer par-excellence. Neither Bax
nor Delius excels in fast music, for that reason.
Try listening to (shorter) Delius as you would to a Wagner prelude; try
listening to Bax as you would ... well, there's no one like him really!
Maybe you should try Handley on Chandos (supreme structurally in both
those symphonies) or the Lyrita reissues, to give yourself a chance of
getting a stronger sense of what Bax is about. Not everyone can "get"
him, of course, but the musical and spiritual rewards for those who
click with Bax (or with Delius for that matter) are very great.
Nemo
I agree with every word. In short, it's a matter of meeting Bax "half -
way", as it were. One needs to enter his sound world and acclimatise.
Once done, you'll never look back - at least, I certainly haven't. As
for recordings, buying the Handley/Chandos discs and the Lyrita is the
best option if one feels in an expansive mood financially. That said,
the Handley CDs are very reasonably priced, so the outlay shouldn't
break the bank.
TareeDawg
> CharlesSmith <sigma....@ntlworld.com> writes:
> Try listening to (shorter) Delius as you would to a Wagner prelude; try
> listening to Bax as you would ... well, there's no one like him really!
> Maybe you should try Handley on Chandos (supreme structurally in both
> those symphonies) or the Lyrita reissues, to give yourself a chance of
> getting a stronger sense of what Bax is about. Not everyone can "get"
> him, of course, but the musical and spiritual rewards for those who
> click with Bax (or with Delius for that matter) are very great.
Indeed. Please inform Bob hillbilly for me. Thank you.
<g>
Ray (Dawg) Hall, Taree
CharlesSmith
> CharlesSmith <sigma.onl...@ntlworld.com> writes:
> > I have S5 (RSNO, Llloyd-Jones) and S6 (LPO, Thompson). The brazen
> >romantic stuff is wonderful and powerful. Unfortunately Bax supplements
> >this with periodic digressions into Delius-like limp, insipid,
> >directionless meanderings. Have I got the wrong recordings?
>
> Both those would to my ears be amongst the weaker in their respective
> cycles, though they're not bad; so rather than Wrong Recordings, it may
> be a case of Wrong Ears!
>
> The notion that Delius (or indeed Bax) wrote "limp, insipid,
> directionless meanderings" suggests some failure to comprehend what they
> are doing. Both at their best are formal masters - provided of course
> the listener is not tuned in to expect something like the 19th century
> romantic, sonata form development you'd find, for example, in Elgar.
>
> No. They work their material in quite a different way. We need to listen
> "vertically" (down the page, in the moment) as well as "horizontally"
> (across the page, through time), though not so rigorously as with, say,
> Takemitsu - perhaps the "vertical" composer par-excellence. Neither Bax
> nor Delius excels in fast music, for that reason.
>
I can understand your concept of listening 'vertically' as applied to
Delius. It so happens that the ethos he creates just doesn't appeal to
me, so I leave him to others. I don't need a conversion, thanks.
If I thought Bax lived in the same pigeonhole I wouldn't be listening
to him, or posting messages on the subject. It's the variability that
puzzles me. The 5th symphony, for example, starts slowly but with a
clear rhythmic pulse and dramatic flow, which continues through the
the first movement allegro. It makes good sense 'horizontally' - a
fine symphonic movement as far as I'm concerned. Around half-way
through the second movement, this sense of flow is lost and the
limpness (the dreary trombone solo, for example) intrudes periodically
from there to the end of the symphony. I had hoped that someone would
point me to a conductor who can tie it together. If you are telling me
that it's like this because it's like Delius, then I'm defeated.
Nemo
You could try Lyrita SRCD 233. This disc includes numbers 2 & 5. The
latter is conducted by Raymond Leppard - I doubt you'll be
disappointed.
Aaron Z Snyder
6a6059...@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
> Bax described himself as "a brazen romantic" (I presume you are
> quoting him) so Sir Edward [Downes]'s approach would seem to be most
> appropriate. That said, I have not yet had the opportunity of hearing
> this recording, although a second-hand copy must be available
> somewhere.
I just listened to again this afternoon. My copy is a transfer from LP to
CD, done by a friend of mine. Despite audible surfaces, the details come
through with great clarity, and the interpretaion seems a natural as
Barbirolli's: energetic in the emotionally-wroght parts, always moving
forward in the quieter ones, and pure magic in the epilogue. I sense a
great deal of confidence behind Sir Edward's performance, and a complete
immersion in the music itself on his part.
This would make a perfect companion to the extant Lyrita recordings.
AZS
tjgui...@yahoo.com
> On Jan 30, 6:18 am, Richard Adams <r.r.ad...@tks.net.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Absolutely. It's very possible that Lyrita is wanting to keep its
> > future recording plans very private for now so inquires are being met
> > with a firm "no." If you hear anymore, please let us know and I'll
> > do the same. I certainly hope there will be forthcoming recordings
> > of the symphonies and it would make sense for Lyrita to want to
> > complete its cycle.
>
> > Richwww.arnoldbax.com
>
> > On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:00:51 -0800 (PST), Nemo
>
> > <brit...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >On Jan 29, 10:11 pm, Richard Adams <r.r.ad...@tks.net.com> wrote:
> > >> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:16:41 -0800 (PST), Nemo
>
> > >> <brit...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >PS. Was your reply from one "Caractacus Downes"? If so, you can
> > >> >safely ignore it.
>
> > >> Indeed it was. Why do you say it's safe to ignore?
>
> > >Because after giving this guy a piece of my mind, he passed my email
> > >on to a "higher authority", for want of a better term. I have already
> > >outlined the details of the email I received in my original post, and
> > >next board meeting. So, now you know as much as I do, which admittedly
> > >isn't a hell of a lot, but it's better than nothing and gives us
> > >something to hope for, don't you think?
>
> > >Regards,
>
> > >Nemo.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> and I can tell you that this CD is absolutely marvellous. The sound is
> stunning and a considerable improvement on the LP version which,
> needless to say, was excellent anyway. So, you need not hesitate! I
> contacted Lyrita again yesterday re. the 3rd and 4th symphonies, but
> as yet I have received no further news.
Where did you order the disc from? Amazon.co.uk is showing a release
date of April! I fear Amazon.com will be even later than that.
Nemo
> On Feb 4, 5:13 pm, tjguita...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > Where did you order the disc from? Amazon.co.uk is showing a release
> > date of April! I fear Amazon.com will be even later than that.
>
> copy from MDT in Derby and you can order it from their web site. It
> will cost you £10.50 including postage (2nd class).
>
> www.mdt.co.uk
PS. If you're ordering from the USA, the full cost will be £10.75 (£10
+ 75p air mail)
Lawrence Chalmers
and
I'm so happy not to have waited for a US release. I haven't listened to
these works
(I have Naxos, both Chandos) in a couple years, but I will say that I
don't remember
being so impressed before this. Clear. well recorded, so highly
spirited, thanks and kudos to those who have made these Lyrita reissues
so welcome. (I wonder if they will release those Searle symphonies
and what else they'd fill the cd with)
With such effort being put into these reissues, it seems it would be
very expensive for them to newly record 3,4
just to have a Lyrita complete cycle. But
here's hoping. I've heard and enjoyed all the recordings of other
composrs I'm not familiar with on this label and wish them the best in
the future.
Nemo
Glad to hear you didn't have any problems. Crotchet is a reliable
company, but the postal charges are a bit steep - MDT is cheaper in
that respect.
I agree, these are indeed excellent performances and I have yet to
hear a better number 2. I haven't had any further news from Lyrita
concerning symphonies 3 & 4, but I keep lobbying in the hope that they
will complete the cycle. Perhaps if other interested members of this
group could add their voices, it might help to persuade Lyrita to go
ahead. The best person to contact is Paula Thomas and she can be
contacted at paulaATwyastone.com
Richard Adams
<sigma....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>...The 5th symphony, for example, starts slowly but with a
>clear rhythmic pulse and dramatic flow, which continues through the
>the first movement allegro. It makes good sense 'horizontally' - a
>fine symphonic movement as far as I'm concerned. Around half-way
>through the second movement, this sense of flow is lost and the
>limpness (the dreary trombone solo, for example) intrudes periodically
>from there to the end of the symphony. I had hoped that someone would
>point me to a conductor who can tie it together. If you are telling me
>that it's like this because it's like Delius, then I'm defeated.
You most certainly aren't defeated but you are listening to the wrong
recording. David Lloyd-Jones' recording of the 5th Symphony suffers
from very ragged playing in the second movement. It seems to fall
apart midway through. I've always regretted the tuba solo as it
rarely comes across as I believe Bax intended. The two recordings in
which it does work are the Handley and the newly issued Leppard on
Lyrita. If you're willing to give the Fifth another try, then listen
to one of those. I'd strongly suggest the new Lyrita as it also
contains the most powerful performance of the Second ever recorded --
and to my ears, the Second is Bax's masterpiece.
Rich
www.arnoldbax.com
Nemo
I'd strongly suggest the new Lyrita as it also
> contains the most powerful performance of the Second ever recorded --
> and to my ears, the Second is Bax's masterpiece.
>
> Richwww.arnoldbax.com
I agree 100%. The Seventh is another particular favourite of mine.
Christopher Webber
>Around half-way through the second movement, this sense of flow is lost
>and the limpness (the dreary trombone solo, for example) intrudes
>periodically from there to the end of the symphony. I had hoped that
>someone would point me to a conductor who can tie it together.
That lost-sounding and gauche Bass Tuba [sic.] solo is indeed as you
rightly spot the turning point in the movement, and perhaps the whole
symphony. Like the wandering bassoon solo in the 1st movement transition
of Sibelius' 5th Symphony it is *meant* to sound disoriented - that's
the point.
The well-defined theme it announces is surely anything but limp. It
comes (as you'll probably have spotted) to dominate the rest of the
work, sapping confidence from the remainder of the slow movement, which
ends shrouded in gloom and uncertainty. A variant then kicks off the
last movement, with that stern, organum-like chordal string motif which
returns to devastate at every subsequent appearance. Only when the theme
is magically transformed into the chorale at the start of the epilogue
is some sort of (temporary?) peace allowed. The stoic and dignified
conclusion is a true and honest resolution of the "dark night of the
soul" which that disturbing Bass Tuba instigated.
All of this, I agree, is much more apparent in Leppard's tighter, more
theatrically acute reading just reissued on Lyrita. Lloyd-Jones simply
falls apart in the 2nd movement. The Handley 5th is perhaps the finest
in his whole cycle, and makes Bax's case in music far better than I ever
could in words.
tjgui...@yahoo.com
> I got my copy of LyritaBax2&5 from Crotchet for a little more than mdt
> and
> I'm so happy not to have waited for a US release.
I know what you mean. It can stink having to wait longer for domestic
releases on a lot of this stuff, but hey people have waited decades
for some of these CD's, I think I can hold out a few weeks. :D
With the new Chandos release of Northern Ballads etc supposedly coming
very soon, I figure I'll just wait and make one order to save on
shipping. Though that could force me to pay customs if the order is
too large? I'm not sure.
Anyway, I'm not in a huge hurry to plunk down for this...I still
haven't listened to that Thomson box of the symphonies that I picked
up over the holidays and its been quite some time since I have
listened to the Handley set or the Lyrita 1, 6 and 7. (I don't have
the Naxos symphonies)
I'm also looking forward to Chandos supposed reissue of "Truth About
Russian Dancers/ From Dusk Til Dawn", because I haven't been able to
find the original release at a decent price over the past few years.
Last I heard, the reissue of that was coming in March with the
Northern Ballads coming in April, but I'll see if anything has
changed, they are usually pretty good about responding to e-mail.
TJ
TareeDawg
> Anyway, I'm not in a huge hurry to plunk down for this...I still
> haven't listened to that Thomson box of the symphonies that I picked
> up over the holidays and its been quite some time since I have
> listened to the Handley set or the Lyrita 1, 6 and 7. (I don't have
> the Naxos symphonies)
My thoughts exactly. So effectively, from what you say, only symphonies
3 and 4 need to be re-issued for all the Bax symphonies to be available?
I have the Naxos set, and am reasonably satisfied, but with this Lyrita
talk, and in addition, the Handley set available, I am not sure what to
do next.
Ray (Dawg) Hall, Taree
Nemo
> On Feb 10, 8:26 pm, TareeDawg <rayto...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> > I have the Naxos set, and am reasonably satisfied, but with this Lyrita
> > talk, and in addition, the Handley set available, I am not sure what to
> > do next.
>
> > Ray (Dawg) Hall, Taree
>
> have no further news from Lyrita as yet. I do my best to keep them
> (Lyrita) interested and assure them there is a market for nos. 3 & 4,
> but as I suggested earlier, it might help if others made their voices
> heard too. If you feel inclined to do so, you can contact Paula Thomas
> at....pa...@wyastone.co.uk
PS. Yes, that's paulaAT
tjgui...@yahoo.com
> tjguita...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Anyway, I'm not in a huge hurry to plunk down for this...I still
> > haven't listened to that Thomson box of the symphonies that I picked
> > up over the holidays and its been quite some time since I have
> > listened to the Handley set or the Lyrita 1, 6 and 7. (I don't have
> > the Naxos symphonies)
>
> My thoughts exactly. So effectively, from what you say, only symphonies
>
> I have the Naxos set, and am reasonably satisfied, but with this Lyrita
> talk, and in addition, the Handley set available, I am not sure what to
> do next.
>
> Ray (Dawg) Hall, Taree
I'm not sure what you mean. The Bryden Thomson conducted bax
symphonies on Chandos are all very much out of print. It may still be
part of MUSICAL HERITAGE SOCIETY club, thats the version I was able to
pick up. The Handley set on chandos is still in print, the naxos are
all still in print. Lyrita 1/7 is in print, Lyrita 6 is in print,
Lyrita 2/5 was just released. There were no 3 or 4 recorded on
Lyrita. Classico released a recording of the 6th which was almost
universally panned from what i can tell on the boards and the bax
site. There's a 3rd symphony release on DUTTON (Barbirolli?) and thats
what I know. There were more than likely others from the LP era that
are probably in the Graham parlett discograpgy (Downes 3rd was
referred to in this thread), but Richard Adams or Christopher Webber
probably know more.
Anyway, the Lyrita release of the 6th is absolutely recommended by me,
not for the symphony, which is of course great, but because it has the
only available recording of Overture: Work In Progress and a superior
recording of Overture To Adventure to the only other recording (on
Classico). Also has "Irish Landscape" which I don't think I have any
other recordings of? Don't have the Lyrita 2/5 yet, but I like the
three Lyrita Bax discs i do have (also a set of tone poems conducted
by Boult), so I have every intentions of picking up the new lyrita
disc when the time comes. But if you are content with Lloyd Jones,
maybe check out the various discs in the "orchestral works" series on
chandos...Vol. 2 has the Spring Fire Symphony, which is fantastic, and
Vol. 7 has Winter Legends, also fantastic, in my opinion.
TJ
TareeDawg
Thanks for a bit of a review. I'll probably spring for the Lyrita
symphony disks, but was seriously wondering whether the Handley set is
worth getting first, to go along with the Naxos set. Various reviews
seem to suggest there isn't a great deal between Lloyd-Jones and Handley.
I well remember Fingerhut playing the Winter Legends, but on LP, and it
was some time ago. A sprawling work as it appeared to me then.
Ray (Dawg) Hall, Taree
CharlesSmith
wrote:
Many thanks (and to Richard above) for your comments. I'll give the
Lyrita a try and expect it to make more sense than the Lloyd-Jones (a
casual purchase picked off the rack in a Celtic theme shop somewhere
in Scotland).
Richard S. Sandmeyer
<8889696a-c1f4-4aa3...@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Nemo <bri...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 10, 8:26 pm, TareeDawg <rayto...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> > I have the Naxos set, and am reasonably satisfied, but with this Lyrita
> > talk, and in addition, the Handley set available, I am not sure what to
> > do next.
> >
> > Ray (Dawg) Hall, Taree
>
> As it was I who started this thread, perhaps I should tell you that I
> have no further news from Lyrita as yet. I do my best to keep them
> (Lyrita) interested and assure them there is a market for nos. 3 & 4,
> but as I suggested earlier, it might help if others made their voices
> heard too. If you feel inclined to do so, you can contact Paula Thomas
Perhaps I am wrong, but I don't think Lyrita recorded nos. 3 & 4 back in
the late 1960s and the 1970s when they recorded 1, 2, 5, 6, and 7. If
I'm correct, then there is nothing of 3 and 4 in the vaults to reissue.
Or did you mean that you are trying to interest them in making new
recordings of 3 and 4 rather than asking for reissues?
There was a #3 issued in the 1970s on RCA (conducted by Edward Downes),
and, of course, there was an LP reissue on EMI of Barbirolli's recording
of #3 (originally on 78s). I don't remember what, if anything, was
available for #4 in the pre-CD era.
--
Rich Sandmeyer
rich.sand at verizon dot net
Nemo
<rich.s...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
> Perhaps I am wrong, but I don't think Lyrita recorded nos. 3 & 4 back in
> the late 1960s and the 1970s when they recorded 1, 2, 5, 6, and 7. If
> I'm correct, then there is nothing of 3 and 4 in the vaults to reissue.
> Or did you mean that you are trying to interest them in making new
> recordings of 3 and 4 rather than asking for reissues?
Persuading Lyrita to make new recordings of Bax 3 & 4 is precisely
what I'm trying to do. If you browse this thread, you will see that
there will be a board meeting this year and this will be on the
agenda. I have been informed that there is a possibility of a
recording session later in the year, but as yet, that's all it is - a
possibility. This is why I am asking others to contact Paula Thomas at
Lyrita because at the moment I feel like a voice crying in the
wilderness. Lyrita needs to be convinced it's worth the time and
money, so the more representations, the better the chances are.
Aaron Z Snyder
b4796e...@m34g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
> Persuading Lyrita to make new recordings of Bax 3 & 4 is precisely
> what I'm trying to do.
...but with Downes' contemporaneous recording of #3 mouldering in the can,
as well as Handley's first recording of #4 (the first-ever), I think it
would behoove Lyrita to reissue these, assuming that the rights to the
recordings can be obtained. Every other Bax Symphony on Lyrita is a
recording premiere, so why not go with the first (well, at least the first
stereo, in the case of #3) recordings of the remaining symphonies? OF
course, if Raymond Leppard is still inclined (and capable) to do #'s 3 & 4,
it might make things interesting.
Aaron Z
tjgui...@yahoo.com
> Nemo <brit...@googlemail.com> wrote in news:a233c07c-d7e9-43ea-b49d-
> b4796e161...@m34g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Persuading Lyrita to make new recordings ofBax3 & 4 is precisely
> > what I'm trying to do.
>
> ...but with Downes' contemporaneous recording of #3 mouldering in the can,
> as well as Handley's first recording of #4 (the first-ever), I think it
> would behoove Lyrita to reissue these, assuming that the rights to the
> recording premiere, so why not go with the first (well, at least the first
> stereo, in the case of #3) recordings of the remaining symphonies? OF
> course, if Raymond Leppard is still inclined (and capable) to do #'s 3 & 4,
> it might make things interesting.
>
> Aaron Z
I wonder how serious the prospects of a new Lyrita recording actually
is. Have they recorded ANYTHING in the last decade? Don't they still
have a fair amount of titles to reissue from their LP catalogue?
Interesting. I wonder what else they might have in store for us.
Lawrence Chalmers
during its heyday?
TareeDawg
> Perhaps I am wrong, but I don't think Lyrita recorded nos. 3 & 4 back in
> the late 1960s and the 1970s when they recorded 1, 2, 5, 6, and 7. If
> I'm correct, then there is nothing of 3 and 4 in the vaults to reissue.
> Or did you mean that you are trying to interest them in making new
> recordings of 3 and 4 rather than asking for reissues?
I have copies of Downes' and Handley's 3rd and 4th respectively, and am
well aware that 1,2,5,6,7 are available on Lyrita, and that Lyrita
didn't, for some reason, do 3 and 4.
My question is, in a roundabout way, more along the lines of (1) getting
the five symphonies on Lyrita now, or, (2) purchasing Handley's newest
set of a few years ago. I have the Naxos set of symphonies (which covers
most of the tone poems as well), and which has been compared quite
favourably with the Handley set, given that both conductors have their
weak aspects in some of the symphonies, and are stronger in others.
Hence, I was hoping for some here to give their views having listened to
both sets.
I am well aware, from reading the posts here, that the Lyrita accounts
(sans 3 and 4) seem to be very well worth acquiring.
Ray (Dawg) Hall, Taree
Christopher Webber
>..but with Downes' contemporaneous recording of #3 mouldering in the
>can, as well as Handley's first recording of #4 (the first-ever), I
>think it would behoove Lyrita to reissue these, assuming that the
>rights to the recordings can be obtained.
The first Handley (Guildford) is of course currently available on CD (on
the infmaous Concert Artist label).
Richard Itter's Lyrita label did not record the Bax 3rd and 4th, for the
same reason as they did not record the Rubbra 5th: i.e. because
perfectly good commercial recordings already existed of all three works
(Barbirolli and Downes, Handley, and Barbirolli respectively).
Lyrita's usual game plan was to expose previously unrecorded works,
although there were exceptions such as their Elgar and Holst recordings
under a Boult temporarily disaffected from EMI. That their five Bax
symphony LPs appeared at all was largely thanks to film director Ken
Russell, a Baxian who used his own personal money to help sponsor the
series.
The notion that Lyrita could be persuaded to continue a project which
they already finished 30 years ago, at least according to Richard
Itter's philosophy for his label, seems more than a little fanciful.
We'd be better off lobbying, say, the Berlin Philharmonic and Simon
Rattle to do them. What Bax needs now is not further domestic outings,
but the sort of high-quality international exposure which has swung it
for Vaughan Williams's worldwide reputation.
Steve de Mena
Isn't this a new Lyrita recording?
http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2007/Sept07/Wood_SRCD216.htm
or
Steve
Nemo
Yes, if Messrs. Leppard or Fredman could be persuaded to record for
Lyrita it would complete the cycle and give it a sense of continuity.
I know other fine recordings are availabe, but the Lyrita discs are in
a class or their own and (in my opinion) have yet to be bettered.
I don't know if Lyrita can, or even want to acquire the rights to the
RCA or Concert Artists recordings. To the best of my knowledge, this
has never been their pratice. In the meantime, I'll keep hammering at
their door and see what happens. Maybe they'll record them just to get
rid of me.
Nemo
>
> I'm also looking forward to Chandos supposed reissue of "Truth About
> Russian Dancers/ From Dusk Til Dawn",
This has already been reissued and you will find it at www.mdt.co.uk
Ed Presson
"TareeDawg" <rayt...@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:fonrc5
<snip>>
....but was seriously wondering whether the Handley set is
> worth getting first, to go along with the Naxos set. Various reviews seem
> to suggest there isn't a great deal between Lloyd-Jones and Handley.
>
I find both the sound and performances of the Handley a couple of steps
higher than the Lloyd-Jones performances of Bax Symphonies. I like Bax's
orchestration to register in full color, and--to me--the Naxos recordings
are comparatively "gray".
YMMV
Regards,
Ed Presson
Aaron Z Snyder
news:FbidneHiNvmpgC3a...@giganews.com:
> Isn't this a new Lyrita recording?
>
> http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2007/Sept07/Wood_SRCD216
> .htm
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yoon3g
Yes, and it's hardly unique. They have been making new recordings for some
time, so new Bax 3 & 4 recordings are not out of the question.
AZS
tjgui...@yahoo.com
> Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com> wrote innews:FbidneHiNvmpgC3a...@giganews.com:
>
> > Isn't this a new Lyrita recording?
>
> >http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2007/Sept07/Wood_SRCD216
> > .htm
>
> > or
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/yoon3g
>
> Yes, and it's hardly unique. They have been making new recordings for some
>
> AZS
The link you provided says it was recorded in 1990 and 1993.
tjgui...@yahoo.com
Thanks for the tip, its actually only available from pre-order there,
showing a March 3rd release date, and a nice price (GBP 5.50 ex VAT).
TJ
Nemo
Sorry, I didn't notice the pre-order bit. I have the original issue,
so I'm happy with that. Anyway, March 3rd isn't too far away.
Steve de Mena
> On Feb 11, 3:32 am, Aaron Z Snyder <azsNOS...@alum.mit.edu>
>
>
> Yes, if Messrs. Leppard or Fredman could be persuaded to record for
> Lyrita it would complete the cycle and give it a sense of continuity.
> I know other fine recordings are availabe, but the Lyrita discs are in
> a class or their own and (in my opinion) have yet to be bettered.
>
> I don't know if Lyrita can, or even want to acquire the rights to the
> RCA or Concert Artists recordings. To the best of my knowledge, this
> has never been their pratice.
Lyrita does license recordings, such as a William Matthias CD that was
originally on Decca.
Steve
Steve de Mena
Good point!
Steve
Nemo
>
> Lyrita does license recordings, such as a William Matthias CD that was
> originally on Decca.
>
> Steve
This is why I said "to the best of my knowledge". Anyway, I stand
well and truly corrected. Thanks for the info.
Nemo.
tjgui...@yahoo.com
yep I placed an order for that as well as the new lyrita, only about
$30 total which wouldn't be much more expensive than if I had just
waited for the US release date and ordered them at that time. Of
course, there will probably be a small fee due to charging my card in
British Pounds...but such is life.
Nemo
> yep I placed an order for that as well as the new lyrita, only about
> $30 total which wouldn't be much more expensive than if I had just
> waited for the US release date and ordered them at that time. Of
> course, there will probably be a small fee due to charging my card in
> British Pounds...but such is life.- Hide quoted text -
Glad I could help. If it's any consolation, it works both ways and my
bank charges me for transactions in US dollars.
Lawrence Chalmers
If you have all the Naxos already I'd go for the Lyritas next. If you
love Bax as much as I do get every Bax symphony recording (except
Bostock/Cassico) there is. The Handley set will be available for awhile
to come (at a bargain price from most everywere - Australian funds, I"m
not sure). If i were rich I'd send you the Lyritas as a gift. This is
not a force-feed
but I feel that strongly about them. IMO they are superb - they'd be my
desert-island Bax symphonies along with Thomson for 3,4 or Naxos 3,4.
TareeDawg
Thanks very much. I'm pretty committed now to acquiring the Lyritas and
if Handley is at bargain price, maybe go for that set as well.
Ray (Dawg) Hall, Taree
tjgui...@yahoo.com
Yes but the dollar is so weak that I'm sure you get quite a bit of
sweet deals on American product. :)
Nemo
To a degree, yes. I managed to purchase Acoustica's "spin-a-disc"
programme at a knock-down price.
richard...@gmail.com
I have all the Bax recordings discussed here so far (on LP or CD),
except the classico, and the Guildford/Handley no 4. I'd suggest that
anyone with Internet access not wholly averse to downloads (which must
be everyone here) join Emusic, if only for a month. Lyrita is
available on there in decent DRM-free recordings, so you can get the
Bax works and many others with little outlay and follow up later with
CDs.
Downes #3 was recently posted on Operashare.
Rattle BPO, or even Rattle BrandX Orchestra would be a great set of
recordings! I think I'd have really liked to hear one of the Soviet
orchestras with unreformed sound do them though!
Richard
Steve de Mena
> On Feb 11, 8:17 pm, Nemo <brit...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 11, 11:18 pm, tjguita...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 11, 1:24 pm, Nemo <brit...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Feb 11, 8:43 pm, tjguita...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> .
>>
>>> Yes but the dollar is so weak that I'm sure you get quite a bit of
>>> sweet deals on American product. :)
>> To a degree, yes. I managed to purchase Acoustica's "spin-a-disc"
>> programme at a knock-down price.
>
> I have all the Bax recordings discussed here so far (on LP or CD),
> except the classico, and the Guildford/Handley no 4. I'd suggest that
> anyone with Internet access not wholly averse to downloads (which must
> be everyone here) join Emusic, if only for a month. Lyrita is
> available on there in decent DRM-free recordings, so you can get the
> Bax works and many others with little outlay and follow up later with
> CDs.
Amazon should have the Lyritas too, in their MP3 download store.
(which I think was recently expanded to the U.K.)
Steve
CharlesSmith
> On 10 Feb, 17:08, Christopher Webber <c...@zarzuela.net.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > CharlesSmith <sigma.onl...@ntlworld.com> writes:
> > >Around half-way through the second movement, this sense of flow is lost
> > >and the limpness (the dreary trombone solo, for example) intrudes
> > >periodically from there to the end of the symphony. I had hoped that
> > >someone would point me to a conductor who can tie it together.
>
> > That lost-sounding and gauche Bass Tuba [sic.] solo is indeed as you
> > rightly spot the turning point in the movement, and perhaps the whole
> > symphony. Like the wandering bassoon solo in the 1st movement transition
> > of Sibelius' 5th Symphony it is *meant* to sound disoriented - that's
> > the point.
>
> > The well-defined theme it announces is surely anything but limp. It
> > comes (as you'll probably have spotted) to dominate the rest of the
> > work, sapping confidence from the remainder of the slow movement, which
> > ends shrouded in gloom and uncertainty. A variant then kicks off the
> > last movement, with that stern, organum-like chordal string motif which
> > returns to devastate at every subsequent appearance. Only when the theme
> > is magically transformed into the chorale at the start of the epilogue
> > is some sort of (temporary?) peace allowed. The stoic and dignified
> > conclusion is a true and honest resolution of the "dark night of the
> > soul" which that disturbing Bass Tuba instigated.
>
> > All of this, I agree, is much more apparent in Leppard's tighter, more
> > theatrically acute reading just reissued on Lyrita. Lloyd-Jones simply
> > falls apart in the 2nd movement. The Handley 5th is perhaps the finest
> > in his whole cycle, and makes Bax's case in music far better than I ever
> > could in words.
> > --
> > ___________________________
> > Christopher Webber, Blackheath, London, UK.http://www.zarzuela.net
>
> Lyrita a try and expect it to make more sense than the Lloyd-Jones (a
> casual purchase picked off the rack in a Celtic theme shop somewhere
> in Scotland).
Lyrita 2/5 has arrived in this morning's post - a quick response from
MDT. I've listened through, and have to agree that the 5th is in a
different class to Lloyd-Jones on Naxos. It's crisp and concise. The
orchestra has a nice transparency, and the LPO are much lighter on
their feet than the RSNO on Naxos. So there's no mystic mush in the
slow movement and no dancing elephants in the last. What a relief -
much more to my taste!
Christopher Webber
>Lyrita 2/5 has arrived in this morning's post - a quick response from
>MDT. I've listened through, and have to agree that the 5th is in a
>different class to Lloyd-Jones on Naxos. It's crisp and concise. The
>orchestra has a nice transparency, and the LPO are much lighter on
>their feet than the RSNO on Naxos. So there's no mystic mush in the
>slow movement and no dancing elephants in the last. What a relief -
>much more to my taste!
That's very good news. And what's more you also now possess the (alike
unmatched for fire) Fredman 2nd as a bonus "filler".
And so now, just go ahead and buy that Handley 5th too.... (!!)
gggg...@gmail.com
> After an enquiry today, Lyrita records informed me that they are
> considering recording the 3rd. and 4th. symphonies - not previously
> included in their LP catalogue, therefore not transferred to CD. This
> may happen sometime later this year, they couldn't be more specific
> than that.
>
> Fine though Vernon Handley's and the late Bryden Thompson's recordings
> are, in my humble opinion, Myer Fredman heads the list where Bax
> syphonies are concerned and Lyrita's recordings have greater impact
> and clarity. As soon as I have any more news, I'll let you know, but
> I'm sure that Lyrita will only be too eager to tell you first!
Recent list of recommended recordings:
http://www.musicweb-international.com/mwi-recommends.htm
O
recordings of "Yankee Doodle."
-Owen
gggg gggg
> After an enquiry today, Lyrita records informed me that they are
> considering recording the 3rd. and 4th. symphonies - not previously
> included in their LP catalogue, therefore not transferred to CD. This
> may happen sometime later this year, they couldn't be more specific
> than that.
> Fine though Vernon Handley's and the late Bryden Thompson's recordings
> are, in my humble opinion, Myer Fredman heads the list where Bax
> syphonies are concerned and Lyrita's recordings have greater impact
> and clarity. As soon as I have any more news, I'll let you know, but
> I'm sure that Lyrita will only be too eager to tell you first!