Silvestri Collection (10 CD EMI/Disky)
Randy Lane
eBay for a mere $32.00
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280557094284&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
And it is in immaculate condition.
I recall bidding for this a few months and watching it sell for well
over $150.00
I have had a craving for this box for years, if for nothing else than
the Dvorak 8th. I've had a Japanese Seraphim LP of the 8th for a few
decades. No other recording of that favorite has ever given me as much
pleasure as teh Silvestri.
With so many "Complete Recordings for EMI" boxes appearing in the last
few years, I sure do which those guys would get around to ressurecting
ALL of the Silvestri stuff in their vaults and giving us a box. Does
anyone know if there is a complete list fo the commercial EMI
recordings anywhere online?
How much did he record for Supraphon?
I've read in the past about a Shosty 10 from Silvestri, though not an
EMI item. Does anyone know anything about that (when issued, when
recorded, orchestra, label, availability)?
Dontait...@aol.com
> Hard to imagine I just picked up the 10 CD Silvestri Collection on
> eBay for a mere $32.00
>
>
> And it is in immaculate condition.
> I recall bidding for this a few months and watching it sell for well
> over $150.00
> I have had a craving for this box for years, if for nothing else than
> the Dvorak 8th. I've had a Japanese Seraphim LP of the 8th for a few
> decades. No other recording of that favorite has ever given me as much
> pleasure as teh Silvestri.
>
> With so many "Complete Recordings for EMI" boxes appearing in the last
> few years, I sure do which those guys would get around to ressurecting
> ALL of the Silvestri stuff in their vaults and giving us a box. Does
> anyone know if there is a complete list fo the commercial EMI
> recordings anywhere online?
>
> How much did he record for Supraphon?
>
> I've read in the past about a Shosty 10 from Silvestri, though not an
> EMI item. Does anyone know anything about that (when issued, when
> recorded, orchestra, label, availability)?
I confess that I don't know much about what Silvestri recorded for
Surpraphon beyond the stupendous recordings of Enescu's Romanian
Rhapsodies and a couple of other things, but Electrocord in Romania
issued Silvestri performances of a number of works on LP, including an
overwhelming performance (recorded live) of Beethoven's Missa
Solemnis. My LP copy of it is rather worn, more's the pity.
Don Tait
J
> Hard to imagine I just picked up the 10 CD Silvestri Collection on
> eBay for a mere $32.00
>
>
> And it is in immaculate condition.
> I recall bidding for this a few months and watching it sell for well
> over $150.00
> I have had a craving for this box for years, if for nothing else than
> the Dvorak 8th. I've had a Japanese Seraphim LP of the 8th for a few
> decades. No other recording of that favorite has ever given me as much
Congratulations. Dealing with eBay is often just a matter of patience.
Know what you want to pay, and when it goes too high, back
off...another copy *will* come along.
Randy Lane
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You mean the one (Missa Solemnis) in this collection :
Matthew B. Tepper
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@z25g2000vbn.googlegroups.com:
I can vouch for that -- Eric Nagamine and I were competing for a copy of
the Cleveland Orchestra's big box. I got mine, and eventually I believe he
also got one (and paid less for it).
I'm still astonished at my luck at actually finding the Shinseido/EMI
Weingartner set (complete with the bonus disc!), and moreover the fact that
the seller lived in nearby Burbank so that I was able to collect it in
person (after paying him via PayPal).
--
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Bob Harper
> Hard to imagine I just picked up the 10 CD Silvestri Collection on
> eBay for a mere $32.00
>
Good for you! I've had this for some years. One of the great, and
greatly under-rated, conductors.
Bob Harper
Frank Berger
I've seen references to some other never-on-CD Silvestri recordings:
Shostakovich #1, Haydn #27, Berlioz SF, Falla El Amor Brujo. The first of
these exists for sure, since there's one for sale on E-bay.
Kerrison
> Randy Lane wrote:
> > Hard to imagine I just picked up the 10 CD Silvestri Collection on
> > eBay for a mere $32.00
>
>
> > And it is in immaculate condition.
> > I recall bidding for this a few months and watching it sell for well
> > over $150.00
> > I have had a craving for this box for years, if for nothing else than
> > the Dvorak 8th. I've had a Japanese Seraphim LP of the 8th for a few
> > decades. No other recording of that favorite has ever given me as much
> > pleasure as teh Silvestri.
>
> > With so many "Complete Recordings for EMI" boxes appearing in the last
> > few years, I sure do which those guys would get around to ressurecting
> > ALL of the Silvestri stuff in their vaults and giving us a box. Does
> > anyone know if there is a complete list fo the commercial EMI
> > recordings anywhere online?
>
> > How much did he record for Supraphon?
>
> > I've read in the past about a Shosty 10 from Silvestri, though not an
> > EMI item. Does anyone know anything about that (when issued, when
> > recorded, orchestra, label, availability)?
>
> I've seen references to some other never-on-CD Silvestri recordings:
> Shostakovich #1, Haydn #27, Berlioz SF, Falla El Amor Brujo. The first of
>
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There's a reference to a Silvestri LP of Shostakovich 10 in John
Holmes's "Conductors on Record" as having been made with the Romanian
Radio Symphony Orchestra before Silvestri came to the West. No record
label is given, unfortunately. Silvestri's old 'Hungaroton' LP of
Falla's El Amor Brujo features a chorus as well as a contralto soloist
(it was made with the Hungarian State Orchestra). Its coupling, The
Pines of Rome, was conducted by Gardelli. Silvestri's EMI LP of
Ravel's Bolero with the Paris Conservatore Orchestra adds just-audible
castanets to the final pages!
Simon
his commercial recordings and live broadcasts for some 50 years.
The Silvestri Shostakovitch 10th was published on Electrecord LP - I
don't have a date but it was probably recorded in the mid-1950s.
The Missa Solemnis - and I jubilantly echo Don Tait's enthusiasm for
this performance - was recorded live in Bucharest on 7 June 1952 or in
April 1957 (I have seen both dates claimed) and has been issued by
Electrecord on CD, coupled with his live recording ( 26 or 27 January
1956) of the Mozart Great Mass in C minor.
The EMI Berlioz Symphonie Fantastique with the Paris Conservatoire
(rec. 6-8 & 11 February 1961) was issued on a Japanese EMI CD
(probably one of those limited editions tied to one of the major
Japanese CD stores).
Other east European recordings by Silvestri include:
Bach Suite no 2 (Budapest PO, 18 October 1954) on the Qualiton label
Britten Purcell Variations (USSR State SO, date unknown) on Melodiya
Constantinescu Piano Concerto (V Gheorghiu, French National Radio & TV
Orchestra, date unknown) on Electrecord
Enescu Suite no 3 (Romanian Radio & TV SO, live at the Enescu
Festival, 1958) on Electrecord
Enescu Romanian Rhapsody no 1 (Czech PO, 1956) and no 2 (Czech PO,
probably 1956) on Supraphon (and also issued on a Supraphon CD)
Enescu Overture on Popular Romanian Themes (Romanian Radio & TV SO,
Enescu Festival, 1958) on Marco Polo CD and in the UK on a Parliament
LP
Enescu Chamber Symphony, Dixtuor and Octuor (Un-named ensemble, date
unknown) on Electrcord (the latter two also issued on Electrecord CD)
Falla El Amor Brujo (Z Pally - often spelt differently - with the
Forrai Chamber Choir & Hungarian State Orchestra) on Hungaraton
Haydn Sym no 27 (Prague SO, date unknown) on Supraphon
Leon Klepper 4 Romanian Dances (Soviet Radio SO) on Melodiya
Lalo Cello Concerto (Navarra, Czech PO - June 1953) on Supraphon (also
on Supraphon CD)
Mozart Nozze di Figaro 2 arias (Gavrilescu, Romanian Radio & TV
Orchestra - probably from a live studio broadcast, date unknown) on
Electrecord
Ravel Rapsodie Espagnole (Czech PO, 1953) on Supraphon (also on
Supraphon CD)
Shostakovitch Sym no 1 (USSR State Radio Orchestra - date unknown) on
Melodiya and in the US on Monitor in fake stereo
I don't pretend that the above is full or completely accurate and if
anyone has more information about Silvestri's east European recording
activities/issues, please do correct and amplify my list.
What I find incomprehensible, however, is that Silvestri's EMI
recordings with Moura Lympany - Franck Symphonic Variations, Schumann
Piano Concerto - do not seem to have been issued on CD anywhere. Nor,
it seems, has his EMI recording of the Saint-Saens Danse Macabre with
the Paris Conservatoire.
Silvestri also recorded two versions of the Dvorak New World with the
French National Radio & TV Orchestra - in mono in 1956 and the
following year in stereo. I have the stereo on a Japanese EMI CD
(wrongly giving the 1956 recording dates) but the mono, which is very
different in parts, does not appear to have been issued on CD.
Incidentally, if anyone has followed this email so far and is
interested in private exchanges of Silvestri performances, please do
contact me. If you have never heard Silvestri's Bruckner 3rd, 5th or
8th, or Shostakovitch 8th or Brahms Piano Concerto no 2 or Sibelius
1st and much more unusual/unexpected repertoire..... Well, the offer
is there!
Simon
Randy Lane
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There's a Disky "Royal Long Players" double-cd with Philharmonia ORch.
playing the Tchaikovsky 4-5-6.
Even harder to get than the 10 CD box.
Gerard
>
>
> Silvestri also recorded two versions of the Dvorak New World with the
> French National Radio & TV Orchestra - in mono in 1956 and the
> following year in stereo. I have the stereo on a Japanese EMI CD
> (wrongly giving the 1956 recording dates) but the mono, which is very
> different in parts, does not appear to have been issued on CD.
>
Weren't there a few recordings of Tchaikovsky's Manfred?
I have an EMI mono recording (on Testament) with the Orchestre National de la
Radiodiffusion Française (c/w Liszt: Tasso).
(Possibly I have his BBC recording as well - but where?)
Kerrison
There's a stereo Manfred from 1963, coupled with Respighi's Pines of
Rome (1967, one of the best disc performances I know) both with the
Bournemouth Symphony, on BBC Music BBCL 4007-2.
The same label also issued a 2-CD set with Silvestri conducting
Elgar's Cockaigne Overture and 1st Symphony; Malcolm Arnold's Beckus
the Dandipratt; Tchaikovsky's 2nd Symphony; Debussy's Jeux; Britten's
Four Sea Interludes; and Enesco's 1st Romanian Rhapsody. Again, all
from Bouurnemouth on BBCL 4182-2.
Another 2-CD set from the same forces features Walton's Partita for
Orchestra; Debussy's La Mer; Rachmaninov's 3rd Symphony; Handel's
Fireworks Music; Beethoven's 8th Symphony; Delius's Paris; and
Strauss's Don Juan. (BBCL 4207-2.)
My guess is that Silvestri collectors will already have these, as well
as the EMI 2-CD set with Rimsky's May Night Ov.; Ravel's Rapsodie
Espagnole; Elgar's In the South; Dvorak's 8th Sym.; Glinka's Ruslan &
Ludmilla Ov.; Borodin's Prince Igor Ov.; and Tchaikovsky's 5th (CZS 5
68339 2).
I don't think there's a dud performance in any of them!
Gerard
But apart from the BBC recordings ... isn't the set under discussion (10 CD
EMI/Disky) just a random set with 10 CDs with recordings by Silvestri?
Or is only this Manfred recording missing? Or more?
Matthew B. Tepper
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@l17g2000vbf.googlegroups.com:
> The Missa Solemnis - and I jubilantly echo Don Tait's enthusiasm for
> this performance - was recorded live in Bucharest on 7 June 1952 or in
> April 1957 (I have seen both dates claimed) and has been issued by
> Electrecord on CD, coupled with his live recording ( 26 or 27 January
> 1956) of the Mozart Great Mass in C minor.
Does orchestra play better than pig, i.e. as on Richter's performance of
Richard Strauss' "Burleske"?
Bob Harper
(snip)
>
> There's a Disky "Royal Long Players" double-cd with Philharmonia ORch.
> playing the Tchaikovsky 4-5-6.
> Even harder to get than the 10 CD box.
Somehow I've got that as well. The hiccup (I can't think of a better
word for it) that he puts in the first movement fanfare of the 4th takes
some getting used to--I'm not sure I ever have!
Bob Harper
George Murnu
> Simon <simonclar...@yahoo.com> appears to have caused the following letters
I sometimes wonder if you really love music.
The sad thing is that you're by far not the reason why my posts here
are so rare...
Regards,
George
Matthew B. Tepper
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@j30g2000vbr.googlegroups.com:
> On Sep 14, 10:40燼m, "Matthew B. Tepper" <oy兀earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Simon <simonclar...@yahoo.com> appears to have caused the following
> letters to be typed in news:086b7937-e973-4ea2-bc1c-f6e04f9ab9b4
>> @l17g2000vbf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > The Missa Solemnis - and I jubilantly echo Don Tait's enthusiasm for
>> > this performance - was recorded live in Bucharest on 7 June 1952 or in
>> > April 1957 (I have seen both dates claimed) and has been issued by
>> > Electrecord on CD, coupled with his live recording ( 26 or 27 January
>> > 1956) of the Mozart Great Mass in C minor.
>>
>> Does orchestra play better than pig, i.e. as on Richter's performance of
>> Richard Strauss' "Burleske"?
>
> I sometimes wonder if you really love music.
>
> The sad thing is that you're by far not the reason why my posts here
> are so rare...
George, I'm sorry, I meant no disrespect for Romanian musicians in general.
My complaint is only with the timpanist, one of whose drums is so severely
out of tune that it ruins the "motto" every time. I just couldn't resist
fitting that Toscanini remark in there.
jfb...@gmail.com
John Berky
Editor, www.abruckner.com
Gerard
"Gerald Martin" wrote in message
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I'm curious why so far there's been no discussion of the EMI (now Warner
Bros) 15-cd ICON Silvestri set. It's only a little over $30 on amazon right
now-- cheaper than I paid a year ago. It duplicates the DISKY set and more.
=========================
There has been such a discussion here.
I guess 5 - 7 months ago.
Gerard
"Gerard" wrote in message
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Here's one:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&hl=en#!search/ICON$20Silvestri$20/rec.music.classical.recordings/kQhvJeMMfiA/0o-NI1720IIJ
Another:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&hl=en#!search/ICON$20Silvestri$20/rec.music.classical.recordings/r-E1g0x9Tb8/HSAHD3pKFZQJ
Dave Cook
> Hard to imagine I just picked up the 10 CD Silvestri Collection on
> eBay for a mere $32.00
You could probably sell the Disky box to some collector with OCD who
has to have this specific box.
Dave Cook
whiskynsplash
For the benefit of those without the BBC Music set let me quote from the liner notes on the Elgar 1st:
And finally to Elgar, a composer who seemed to fascinate Silvestri. Having created a stir with his commercial recording of the overture "In the South" for EMI in 1967, the year in which he was naturalized in Britain, he became deeply affected by Elgar's larger works, notably "The Dream of Gerontius", and had plans to record both symphonies. He died in February 1969, before these could be implemented, but he did make live broadcasts of No. 1 (1968) and Cockaigne (1966). It is said that he must have been acquainted with Elgar's own recording, so similar are the tempi and the grand sweep. Brian Johnston remembers: "When rehearsing the opening and main theme of Symphony No. 1, Silvestri stopped and asked the librarian to put out the parts for Cesar Franck's Symphony. He did not want a thick Brahmsian sound but one where he had to hear all the score articulated.
Raymond Carpenter
Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra, 1948-87
(Principal Clarinet, 1954-87)