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Harald Vogel Organ LPs
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sci.space
Mar 10, 2016, 2:00:33 PM3/10/16
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A couple weeks ago I found a couple Harald Vogel organ records at a used book store. Their inventory is wholly unpredictable and unsorted.
The real find was an Organa disc, ORA 3002, a recital on the Compenius organ in Schloss Frederiskborg. It has wonderful reed stops and the opening work, Soll es sein by Sweelinck, uses different stop combinations for each variation. A bonus is that the record plays like a new, well-pressed one - no ticks, pops or other surface noise, lets the organ speak clearly with a real bite in the reeds.
I also picked up ORA 3001, another recital by Vogel on the organ at Rysum, a smaller scale organ from 1457. This was also in very good condition, not quite up to the other one. The music was mostly from the period of the organ and the organ's sound is not as dramatic as the Compenius.
Vogel is new to me, but these two have whetted my taste for more. Can anyone recommend any of his other recordings? The Organa series seems long out of print, cannot determine it they ever made it to CD.
The real find was an Organa disc, ORA 3002, a recital on the Compenius organ in Schloss Frederiskborg. It has wonderful reed stops and the opening work, Soll es sein by Sweelinck, uses different stop combinations for each variation. A bonus is that the record plays like a new, well-pressed one - no ticks, pops or other surface noise, lets the organ speak clearly with a real bite in the reeds.
I also picked up ORA 3001, another recital by Vogel on the organ at Rysum, a smaller scale organ from 1457. This was also in very good condition, not quite up to the other one. The music was mostly from the period of the organ and the organ's sound is not as dramatic as the Compenius.
Vogel is new to me, but these two have whetted my taste for more. Can anyone recommend any of his other recordings? The Organa series seems long out of print, cannot determine it they ever made it to CD.
james.g...@gmail.com
Mar 10, 2016, 2:35:42 PM3/10/16
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His complete Buxtehude organ works on MDG is excellent.
howie...@btinternet.com
Mar 10, 2016, 3:03:07 PM3/10/16
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He is one of my three or four favourite Buxtehude organists. The complete set is interesting organologically for the range of organs used.
There's a pedal clavichord recording of some Bach preludes (BWV 553 . . . ) which is important.
Also a recording with Reincken's fantasy on An Wasserflüssen Babylon, I would need to listen to it again to recommend it with any confidence.
Oscar
Mar 10, 2016, 3:35:42 PM3/10/16
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Who are your other favorite Buxtehude organists, Howard?
howie...@btinternet.com
Mar 10, 2016, 4:47:48 PM3/10/16
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Kraft, Davidsson, Saorgin.
james.g...@gmail.com
Mar 10, 2016, 6:15:18 PM3/10/16
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On Thursday, March 10, 2016 at 4:47:48 PM UTC-5, howie...@btinternet.com wrote:
> Kraft, Davidsson, Saorgin.
The Kraft and Saorgin are a little dated, but I still enjoy.
I haven't heard Davidsson. It looks like he performs on a Swedish copy of the Hamburg Schnitger instrument (which uses mean-tone temperament; Volgel plays the original on one of the discs, with works transposed as necessary to be in tune).
Have you heard Herrick or the Bine Bryndorf?
> Kraft, Davidsson, Saorgin.
The Kraft and Saorgin are a little dated, but I still enjoy.
I haven't heard Davidsson. It looks like he performs on a Swedish copy of the Hamburg Schnitger instrument (which uses mean-tone temperament; Volgel plays the original on one of the discs, with works transposed as necessary to be in tune).
Have you heard Herrick or the Bine Bryndorf?
howie...@btinternet.com
Mar 11, 2016, 1:14:31 AM3/11/16
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I have heard Herrick and Bryndorf.
Hans Davidsson's organ is outstanding, the performances are inclined to be slow. One reason I loved the recordings is the commentary - I thought it was fascinating to read his ideas about the meaning of the music and then see how that gets translated to interpretation.
Kraft's recording is obviously problematic because of the sound. And the organ he used was in poor condition. But I find the grand style completely winning. I like his Bach too.
Another very worthwhile one is Spang-Hanssen.
One thing generally: mean-tone tuning really matters in this music I think. That's another thing that became clear to me when I discovered Davidsson.
Hans Davidsson's organ is outstanding, the performances are inclined to be slow. One reason I loved the recordings is the commentary - I thought it was fascinating to read his ideas about the meaning of the music and then see how that gets translated to interpretation.
Kraft's recording is obviously problematic because of the sound. And the organ he used was in poor condition. But I find the grand style completely winning. I like his Bach too.
Another very worthwhile one is Spang-Hanssen.
One thing generally: mean-tone tuning really matters in this music I think. That's another thing that became clear to me when I discovered Davidsson.
howie...@btinternet.com
Mar 11, 2016, 4:51:14 AM3/11/16
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One I forgot, which is a favourite of mine, is Vol 2 of Koopman. It's early pieces played on an attractive meantone tuned organ (Lüdingworth.)The rest of Koopman's organ set I don't enjoy as much.
james.g...@gmail.com
Mar 11, 2016, 9:07:12 AM3/11/16
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On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 4:51:14 AM UTC-5, howie...@btinternet.com wrote:
> One I forgot, which is a favourite of mine, is Vol 2 of Koopman. It's early pieces played on an attractive meantone tuned organ (Lüdingworth.)The rest of Koopman's organ set I don't enjoy as much.
Koopman has been hit or miss for me. I haven't heard any of his complete Buxtehude series, but he did record a disc for Novalis on the Schnitger instrument at St. Ludgeri which has is everything I like about Koopman - clarity, really interesting phrasing, being quirky and exaggerated; colorful registration, and doesn't overdo it with the ornamentation.
> One I forgot, which is a favourite of mine, is Vol 2 of Koopman. It's early pieces played on an attractive meantone tuned organ (Lüdingworth.)The rest of Koopman's organ set I don't enjoy as much.
I agree about the meantone. The changes in harmony that would be bland in equal/well temperement are really striking.
There's the Chapuis set. I don't know if it was released on CDs, though I don't really like the choice of instruments - three modern instruments (Ahrend I think) and the organ at St. Maximin in Thionsville - which is a magnificent instrument, but not ideal for Buxtehude.
howie...@btinternet.com
Mar 11, 2016, 1:30:41 PM3/11/16
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I've heard the organ at St. Maximin in Thionsville only through one recording - Gillian Weir playing Louis Marchand Bk 1 - and it does sound very fine (the performance is a bit quirky IMO.)
Chapuis is as hit and miss as Koopman for me - though I must say that a few weeks ago I found a really magical recording by him of playing Dumage.
Chapuis is as hit and miss as Koopman for me - though I must say that a few weeks ago I found a really magical recording by him of playing Dumage.
Arno Schuh
Mar 12, 2016, 5:32:55 AM3/12/16
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Hi,
there is a site dedicated to Harald Vogel (by his brother?):
http://organeum.de/englisch/home.html
Most of his LPs from the label you mentioned made it on CD.
One of my favourite Vincent Lübeck recordings are played by Harald Vogel.
Unfortunately it wasn't made on his own company but on the Coronata label.
This LP never made it on CD. :-(
Yours sincerely
Arno
there is a site dedicated to Harald Vogel (by his brother?):
http://organeum.de/englisch/home.html
Most of his LPs from the label you mentioned made it on CD.
One of my favourite Vincent Lübeck recordings are played by Harald Vogel.
Unfortunately it wasn't made on his own company but on the Coronata label.
This LP never made it on CD. :-(
Yours sincerely
Arno
Arno Schuh
Mar 12, 2016, 8:50:08 AM3/12/16
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Arno Schuh <arno....@in-trier.de> wrote:
> One of my favourite Vincent Lübeck recordings are played by Harald
> Vogel. Unfortunately it wasn't made on his own company but on the
> Coronata label. This LP never made it on CD. :-(
Sorry, not Coronata but Organa label,
> One of my favourite Vincent Lübeck recordings are played by Harald
> Vogel. Unfortunately it wasn't made on his own company but on the
> Coronata label. This LP never made it on CD. :-(
too.
Arno
sci.space
Mar 13, 2016, 8:58:05 AM3/13/16
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Thanks all for the responses. I have Vogel's Buxtehude set on order, waiting to hear it. Did he ever make a Vol 2 of Sweelinck? Demos of stops are fun to listen to once, but, for me, do not bear repeated listening. So far, the sole nothing-but-Sweelinck disk I have that I always enjoy is the Biggs LP on the Harvard Flentrop, think it might have been the first recording he made on that organ.
howie...@btinternet.com
Mar 13, 2016, 9:23:00 AM3/13/16
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You will find Vogel's Buxtehude rather restrained. It turns out that one of the CDs - #5 - is dedicated to meantone tuned organs.
He has not done a #2 of Swellinck yet. The Flentrop is not the sort of organ I like I'm afraid, but if I ever got the chance to hear Biggs's LP, I would take it probably.
He has not done a #2 of Swellinck yet. The Flentrop is not the sort of organ I like I'm afraid, but if I ever got the chance to hear Biggs's LP, I would take it probably.
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