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Rob Barnett

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Apr 15, 2001, 6:14:34 AM4/15/01
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Someone has asked me if I can find the words to the Largo from Dvorak's New
World Symphony!!

Yes, I do know that Dvorak did not write words for it and that it is a
purely orchestral piece however someone must have added words. Can anyone
tell me more about words being added to this piece of music.

Given the enquiry I think the words must be of a devotional nature.

Any informaiton on words being added to the largo and details of the source
of the text and of any recoridngs would be much appreciated.

Thank you

Rob


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Matthew B. Tepper

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Apr 15, 2001, 10:23:36 AM4/15/01
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Rob.B...@ukgateway.net (Rob Barnett) wrote in
<3ad9685f$0$12250$cc9e...@news.dial.pipex.com>:

>Someone has asked me if I can find the words to the Largo from Dvorak's
>New World Symphony!!
>
>Yes, I do know that Dvorak did not write words for it and that it is a
>purely orchestral piece however someone must have added words. Can
>anyone tell me more about words being added to this piece of music.
>
>Given the enquiry I think the words must be of a devotional nature.
>
>Any informaiton on words being added to the largo and details of the
>source of the text and of any recoridngs would be much appreciated.
>
>Thank you

Goin' home, goin' home, I'm a-goin' home;
Quiet like, some still day, I'm jes' goin' home.
It's not far, jes' close by, through an open door;
Work all done, care laid by, going to fear no more.
Mother's there 'spectin me, Father's waitin' too;
Lots of folk gathered there, all the friends I knew (all the friends I
knew.)

Home, Home, I'm goin' home!

Nothin's lost, all's gain, no more fret or pain,
No more stumblin' on the way, no more longin' for the day,
Going to roam no more!

Morning star lights the way, restless dream all done;
Shadows gone, break o' day, real life jes' begun..

There's no break, ain't no end, jes' a livin' on;
Wide awake, with a smile, goin' on and on.

Goin' home, goin' home, I'm jes' goin' home;
It's not far, jes' close by, through an open door.
I'm jes' goin' home. ---- Goin' home.

Words by William Arms Fisher, music (you already know) by Antonin Dvorak.

It took me only a couple of minutes to find this using Google:

http://www.pipechat.org/archives/1999/august/digest1041.html

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REG

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Apr 15, 2001, 10:56:13 AM4/15/01
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How about "This is the sympnonee, that Schubert wrote and never fin-ished"?

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Matthew B. Tepper

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Apr 15, 2001, 11:10:42 AM4/15/01
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Rich...@hotmail.com (REG) wrote in
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>How about "This is the sympnonee, that Schubert wrote and never
>fin-ished"?

From Sidmund Spaeth's unintentional 1936 comedy classic, _Great Symphonies
How to Recognize and Remember Them_. Last night's episode of "Saturday
Night Live" had a sketch that was an infomercial for a CD of classical
music highlights set to really pointless words.

sch...@gefen.cc.biu.ac.il

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Apr 15, 2001, 11:56:44 AM4/15/01
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In article <SRiC6.1499$u23.1...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, Matthew B. Tepper <oyþ@earthlink.net> wrote:
: Rich...@hotmail.com (REG) wrote in
: <hEiC6.5026$l5.1...@typhoon.nyc.rr.com>:

:>How about "This is the sympnonee, that Schubert wrote and never
:>fin-ished"?

: From Sidmund Spaeth's unintentional 1936 comedy classic, _Great Symphonies
: How to Recognize and Remember Them_. Last night's episode of "Saturday
: Night Live" had a sketch that was an infomercial for a CD of classical
: music highlights set to really pointless words.

I once saw a book of those things. It was written by someone who probably
should have known better (for some reason, I seem to be thinking of
Toscanini's daughter in this context). The only one I remember is Chopin's
A major Polonaise: Mayonnaise is not as good as hollandaise; hollandaise
is not as good as sauce Bearnaise. . .

-----
Richard Schultz sch...@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
It's a bird, it's a plane -- no, it's Mozart. . .

Matthew B. Tepper

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Apr 15, 2001, 12:38:51 PM4/15/01
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sch...@gefen.cc.biu.ac.il wrote in <9bcgbr$vol$1...@news.huji.ac.il>:

>In article <SRiC6.1499$u23.1...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,


>Matthew B. Tepper <oyţ@earthlink.net> wrote:
>: Rich...@hotmail.com (REG) wrote in
>: <hEiC6.5026$l5.1...@typhoon.nyc.rr.com>:
>
>:>How about "This is the sympnonee, that Schubert wrote and never
>:>fin-ished"?
>
>: From Sidmund Spaeth's unintentional 1936 comedy classic, _Great
>: Symphonies How to Recognize and Remember Them_. Last night's episode
>: of "Saturday Night Live" had a sketch that was an infomercial for a CD
>: of classical music highlights set to really pointless words.
>
>I once saw a book of those things. It was written by someone who
>probably should have known better (for some reason, I seem to be
>thinking of Toscanini's daughter in this context). The only one I
>remember is Chopin's A major Polonaise: Mayonnaise is not as good as
>hollandaise; hollandaise is not as good as sauce Bearnaise. . .

Close! It was Jascha Heifetz' daughter Josefa, and the book was called
_From Bach to Verse: Comic Mnemonics for Famous Musical Themes_ (New York,
N.Y.: Penguin Books, 1983). But it is Sigmund Spaeth's book (I misspelled
his first name in my prior post) which is the "winner" in the category of
*unintentional* humor. It's the one which has the infamous Schubert quote
you cite, but also many more, just as awful. Another one I can't manage to
forget is the big tune of the slow movement from César Franck's Symphony:
"The sad English horn, sounds lost and forlorn."

Ms. Heifetz, puckishly using her ex-husband's surname, also wrote a much
better-known book of paronomasias: _Mrs. Byrne's dictionary of unusual,
obscure, and preposterous words_ (Secaucus, N.J.: University Books, 1974).

Ehrlich606

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Apr 15, 2001, 2:58:14 PM4/15/01
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In article <hEiC6.5026$l5.1...@typhoon.nyc.rr.com>, "REG"
<Rich...@hotmail.com> writes:

>
>How about "This is the sympnonee, that Schubert wrote and never fin-ished"?
>

Actually, I think it's "This is the symphony, that Schubert never finished" and
matches the cello theme. According to Harold Schonberg, Damrosch was the
miscreant.

Spaeth, in his 1936 book, gives the following verbal cues for the Unfinished:

[the opening bass theme]

Low, minor tune, Schubert will sing right soon!

[the oboe/clarinet theme following]

Schubert, beloved Schubert, we call on you! These notes are all too few!

[then the big cello theme has these lyrics]

Schubert, we sing with you, we like to do the tunes of Schubert,
Schubert, forever new, and ringing true, there's nothing rarer
or fairer
than you!

Some other Spaethian lyric insights:

[The violins opening of the Pastorale, after the first drone bass]

It's nice to feel so gay / and hear the shepherds play.

[The beginning of the third movement]

The peasants are dancing and prancing together,
the weather is nothing to them, ha, ha, ha

[the opening of Beethoven's Eighth]

Beethoven still is great
In the symphony he numbers eight

[The double bass entry in the Finale of the Ninth]

What ho! Where do we go?

[The finale of the Great C Major of Schubert begins thus]

Sound the horn! This is the end.

[The beginning of the Scherzo to Schumann's Fourth Symphony]

The blustering sound of the gale,
A voice that is hearty and hale,
Is calling, squalling,
loudly, proudly,
yelling, telling,
Autumn's tale!

[The pointed theme directly after is]

The wind is our friend,
for in time he will send
All the apples you see
to the ground from the tree

[the beginning of the Finale, thus]

Rah, rah, ray! What an autumn day!
Rah, rah, ray! What a game to play!

-- Try these lyrics the next time you listen to Furtwangler!

[the beginning to Mendelssohn's Symphony #4]

Italian, Italian is Mendelssohn's name
For a symphony whose melody with light is aflame

[the big tune in C from Brahms' first symphony]

When Brahms marches forward,
each loyal heart keeps time,
his tones ring out nobly,
with melody sublime.
We join in singing
and bringing
our ringing praise
To Brahms the great at Heaven's gate
With green palms and loud Psalms to Brahms

[The opening notes to Brahms' second]

This is the start .....

[the horn theme right after]

Calm an clear,
D major the key
Brahms in a second symphony

Minor chords in contrast are heard,
Music to play without a word, without a word!

[the beginning of the finale]

Brahms

as we are homeward wending
makes it clear that he is sending
Ev'ry one a happy ending
Tones in rhythm of a march Finale blending


[The opening to Brahms' fourth symphony]

Hello!
Hello!
What ho!
What ho!
Hello!
What ho!
Hello!
What ho!

-- I wonder if Todd Rundgren knew this piece.

[The opening to the Scherzo, later covered by Rick Wakeman, thus]

Shall we have some dancing?
Shall we have some prancing?
No?

[The Largo to Dvorak's New World Symphony, the English horn theme]

English horn,
all forlorn,
pipe your plaintive lay,
Dreaming slow, soft and low,
What does Dvorak say?

Nothing loud,
nothing proud,
naught of pomp or pow'r
Simple song, not too long,
shy as hidden flow'r

Once again,
sad refrain,
hear it rise and fall,
Tender, true, ever new,
human heart-throbs' call.

[The finale of the same symphony, after the "shark episode", recently
popularized on Boston Public]

From the New World at last
Great songs will be heard
Rebuilt from a glorious past,
Toward future achievement spurr'd


-- All in all, an interesting book -- "Great Symphonies: How to Recognize and
Remember Them" by Sigmund Spaeth, Garden City Pub, 1936

REG

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Apr 15, 2001, 4:35:27 PM4/15/01
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yes, I'd always understood it was Damrosch, until the posts here avour
Spaeth.

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Rodger Whitlock

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Apr 15, 2001, 8:23:20 PM4/15/01
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On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:14:34 -0000, "Rob Barnett"
<Rob.B...@ukgateway.net> wrote:

> Someone has asked me if I can find the words to the Largo from Dvorak's New
> World Symphony!!

I think (note weasel wording) that it starts "Go-ing home, go-ing
home, da daa da da daa da da, going home, going home,...." But
maybe it's "coming", not "going."

It ends up a slow spiritual.

HTH


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Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

sch...@gefen.cc.biu.ac.il

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Apr 16, 2001, 12:12:34 AM4/16/01
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In article <20010415145814...@nso-ci.aol.com>, Ehrlich606 <ehrli...@aol.com> wrote:
: In article <hEiC6.5026$l5.1...@typhoon.nyc.rr.com>, "REG"
: <Rich...@hotmail.com> writes:

:>How about "This is the sympnonee, that Schubert wrote and never fin-ished"?

: Actually, I think it's "This is the symphony, that Schubert never finished"
: and matches the cello theme. According to Harold Schonberg, Damrosch was the
: miscreant.

I don't suppose that it makes any difference to you that your version does
not in fact match the cello theme, while the other version does?

-----
Richard Schultz sch...@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----

"What I do object to is uninformed malicious pandering to low level
uncouthness, even if it comes from the holiest of lands, Israel!"
-- Kenneth Lane, Wagnerian Romantischer Heldenspammer

Len Mullenger of MusicWeb

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Apr 16, 2001, 12:18:30 AM4/16/01
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:23:20 GMT, in article
<3ada3af7....@news.newsguy.com>, Rodger Whitlock stated

>
>On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:14:34 -0000, "Rob Barnett"
><Rob.B...@ukgateway.net> wrote:
>
>> Someone has asked me if I can find the words to the Largo from Dvorak's New
>> World Symphony!!
>
>I think (note weasel wording) that it starts "Go-ing home, go-ing
>home, da daa da da daa da da, going home, going home,...." But
>maybe it's "coming", not "going."
>
>It ends up a slow spiritual.

Following this lead I found
I’ve wandered far away from God,
Now I’m coming home;
The paths of sin too long I’ve trod,
Lord, I’m coming home.

Refrain

Coming home, coming home,
Nevermore to roam,
Open wide Thine arms of love,
Lord, I’m coming home.

I’ve wasted many precious years,
Now I’m coming home;
I now repent with bitter tears,
Lord, I’m coming home.

Refrain

I’m tired of sin and straying, Lord,
Now I’m coming home;
I’ll trust Thy love, believe Thy Word,
Lord, I’m coming home.

Refrain

My soul is sick, my heart is sore,
Now I’m coming home;
My strength renew, my hope restore,
Lord, I’m coming home.

Refrain


>
>HTH
>
>
>--
>Rodger Whitlock
>Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

.............................
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Matthew B. Tepper

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Apr 16, 2001, 1:32:44 AM4/16/01
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l...@musicweb.uk.net (Len Mullenger of MusicWeb) wrote in
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>
>>Words by William Arms Fisher, music (you already know) by Antonin
>>Dvorak.
>>
>>It took me only a couple of minutes to find this using Google:
>>
>>http://www.pipechat.org/archives/1999/august/digest1041.html
>>
>>--
>>Matthew B. Tepper: WWW, science fiction, classical music, ducks!
>Google didn't work for me because I am too pedantic and used Going not
>goin'
>
>Thanks for your help.
>Len

I'm honored to have helped.

Stevevasta

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Apr 28, 2001, 2:37:22 PM4/28/01
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>How about "This is the sympnonee, that Schubert wrote and never fin-ished"?
>

Worse yet - slow movement of Beethoven 5 - second subject (the trumpet
fanfare):

"Uncle John - has - come - home!
Uncle John - has - come - home!
Un-cle JOHN!! Un-cle JOHN!!"

That one is hard to displace.

Matthew B. Tepper

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Apr 28, 2001, 4:31:37 PM4/28/01
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steve...@aol.com (Stevevasta) wrote in
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Really? For me, it's another phrase from that group, which I identified
very early in life with part of the theme song for the TV show "Harrigan
and Son"!

REG

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Apr 28, 2001, 11:08:00 PM4/28/01
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Well, I'll go you one worse - and you'll never forget it:

It's the an-da-an-te FROM, the-e fifth sym-im-pho-nee,
Bee-ee tho ve-ens fifth symphonee

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Robert Lim

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"REG" <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Anyone remember "Lenny's rumba" from the Norton Lectures

"I remember the time we met
When the band was playing
and you were in my arms, dear..."

(theme in last movement of Tchaikovsky's second symphony, IIRC)


Bob


Marc Perman

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Apr 29, 2001, 8:35:50 AM4/29/01
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"Stevevasta" <steve...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Worse yet - slow movement of Beethoven 5 - second subject (the
trumpet
> fanfare):
>
> "Uncle John - has - come - home!
> Uncle John - has - come - home!
> Un-cle JOHN!! Un-cle JOHN!!"
>
> That one is hard to displace.

I'll try: Finale of Mozart's 40th symphony:

"Mozart's in the clo-set, let him out, let him out, let him
out!"

Marc Perman


David Wake

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"Marc Perman" <mpe...@nyc.rr.com> writes:

OR "Once I was a virgin: now I am a .....",

waltz from Tchaik 5.

David

Raymond Hall

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There is an "in-ky pin-ky PAR-lez vous" that occurs twice in the opening
movement of the Brahm's 1st symphony. I have never really appreciated this
work ever since I got this association, which was pretty early on. Wish I
had the score so I could point it out, but it is obvious if you listen for
it.

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gggg gggg

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Andrew Clarke

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On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 5:05:40 PM UTC+10, gggg gggg wrote:

> The movie THE SNAKE PIT (1948) has a scene where that song is sung by the patients of a mental hospital:
>
> https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-tek-anyfindernt&ei=UTF-8&hsimp=yhs-anyfindernt&hspart=tek&p=snake+pit+olivia+de+havilland#id=29&vid=13e0debf54c9d6bd159a3e37d1814ade&action=view

From Grieg, Peer Gynt, Hall of the Mountain King:

"Mother ran a knocking shop, knocking shop, knocking shop,
Mother ran a knocking shop in Fulham Palace Road ... "

or something more Melmothian: tune F. Couperin, 'Le Tic-toc-choc, ou Les Miauwetons':

Ermintrude the Famous Cat
Was taken to the laundromat,
She came out in ten seconds flat,
(Some problem with the thermostat).
Ermintrude the Famous Cat
Was taken to the laundromat
She went home in a picture hat
That most sartorial pussycat.

Ermintrude the Famous Cat
Went on a trip to Ballarat*,
She came home with a load of tat,
The sort you get in Ballarat;
Ermintrude the Famous Cat
Went on a trip to Ballarat,
She stopped for tea in Ararat
That wild colonial pussycat.

Ermintrude the Famous Cat
A d'ejeun'e a La Grand' Jatte,
She was the muse of George Seurat
That Pointilliste Pussycat;
Ermintrude the Famous Cat
A d'ejeun'e a La Grand' Jatte,
A tom went by and that was that,
A most flirtatious pussycat.

Andrew Clarke
Canberra

*American readers are invited to visit <https://www.visitballarat.com.au/ > although i suppose they get enough of this sort of thing at home ...
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