Otto Gerdes
Paulo J Pastor-Braga
Does anyone share my enthusiasm for Otto Gerdes' Brahms Fourth?
Not reissued on CD, the LP (Deutsche Grammophon 139 423) was coupled
with the Meistersinger prelude; the orchestra was the Berlin
Philharmonic. It was issued circa 1970.
Besides that disc, there was also a complete Tannhaeuser - this I've
not heard.
The curious fact is that Otto Gerdes was better known as a prominent DG
producer, but the quality of that Fourth is outstanding: it is the one a
prefer among a number of good readings.
(Yes, I'm aware of Carlos Kleiber, Fritz Reiner/RPO, Walter, etc.)
Alan Swindells
In article <3343CB...@embratel.net.br>, Paulo J Pastor-Braga
<co...@embratel.net.br> wrote:
I used to have, on a Heliodor LP, a recording by Gerdes of Dvorak's
New World Symphony bought at about this time, and very žne it was
too - if a little 'straight'.
I haven't heard the Brahms, but would be interested to. Yes he was
one of DG's more prominent producers. It is not unusual to žnd that
producers are, in fact, at least competent musicians. After all,
the ability to read a score is an essential in the job. Another
example to quote might be Erik Smith, who recorded Mozart as a
pianist.
--
Regards: Alan
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PGoldst515
I believe I once read that Erik Smith is Hans Schmidt-Isserstedt's son.
Is this true?
Another producer who waves a pretty fair baton is Charles Gerhardt.
Paul Goldstein
Russell W. Miller
On 4 Apr 1997 23:23:44 GMT, pgold...@aol.com (PGoldst515) wrote:
>I believe I once read that Erik Smith is Hans Schmidt-Isserstedt's son.
>Is this true?
Yes.
>Another producer who waves a pretty fair baton is Charles Gerhardt.
Other producers who recorded as conductors back in the 78 days:
Lawrance Collingwood, Joe Batten, Charles O'Connell.
Raymond Leppard also produced at least one recording some years ago,
for EMI I believe; can anyone supply the details, which I have read
but don't remember?
Russell W. Miller
r...@miller.mv.com
Tony Movshon
In article <19970404232...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, pgold...@aol.com (PGoldst515) writes:
>I believe I once read that Erik Smith is Hans Schmidt-Isserstedt's son.
>Is this true?
Yes.
>Another producer who waves a pretty fair baton is Charles Gerhardt.
Cord Garben conducts at least one Michelangeli recording, but it's
hard to say how good he is.
Tony Movshon
Center for Neural Science New York University
http://www.cns.nyu.edu mov...@nyu.edu
TransfrGuy
On 4 Apr 1997, Russell W. Miller writes:
<<Other producers who recorded as conductors back in the 78 days:
Lawrance Collingwood, Joe Batten, Charles O'Connell.>>
Also, Victor Olof recorded for Decca/London (before defecting to EMI), and
Max Wilcox conducted the Strauss Oboe Concerto with it's instigator, John
DeLancie, for RCA.
Speaking of Charles O'Connell, he recorded an extensive series of
black-label Victors with the Philadelphia Orchestra performing as the
"Victor Symphony Orchestra," (including "Finlandia," "Ride of the
Valkyries," and "Entrance of the Gods into Valhalla"). And has anyone
else heard Otto Gerdes' Brahms Fourth with the Berlin Philharmonic on DGG?
Aside from some ensemble flubs, it's quite a good performance, sounding
much like his teacher Hermann Abendroth's 1927 LSO version.
- Mark Obert-Thorn
gdde...@aol.com
I have an old LP of Gerdes conducting Wagner's awful student Symphony in C
and coupled with Wagner's Faust Overture. It may be an awful work, the
Symphony, that is, but I still enjoy it somewhat.
Speaking of old LPs not issued on CD yet, does anyone know if Eugen Jochum's
1950s early stereo Haydn Symphonies Nos. 88 and 98 with the Berlin
Philharmonic once issued on Heliodor were ever released on CD? If not, they
should be! My LP has a terrible pop and skip at the end of the 98th during the
twinkliest harpsichord solo in any of Jochum's three recordings of the 98th (that
I know of).
Geoffrey Decker
Bruce Morrison
On 9 Apr 1997 06:50:52 GMT, gdde...@aol.com wrote:
>Speaking of old LPs not issued on CD yet, does anyone know if Eugen Jochum's
>1950s early stereo Haydn Symphonies Nos. 88 and 98 with the Berlin
>Philharmonic once issued on Heliodor were ever released on CD? If not, they
>should be! My LP has a terrible pop and skip at the end of the 98th during the
>twinkliest harpsichord solo in any of Jochum's three recordings of the 98th (that
>I know of).
Still not on CD unfortunately. They ought to be high on DG's
priorities. I used to have the Heliodor LP at one time and I agree,
these are captivating performances.
Come to think of it, it would be nice to have the Jochum Schubert 9th
issued as well (not to mention his mono DG Bruckner recordings).
-
Bruce Morrison (bruce.m...@dial.pipex.com)
"Wagner has lovely moments but awful quarters of an hour." (Rossini)
luke....@googlemail.com
John Wiser
if one was in possession of a bit more detail.
But I doubt it.
jdw
rapu...@spiritone.com
> On 9 Apr 1997 06:50:52 GMT, gdde...@aol.com wrote:
>
> >Speaking of old LPs not issued on CD yet, does anyone know if Eugen Jochum's
> >1950s early stereo Haydn Symphonies Nos. 88 and 98 with the Berlin
> >Philharmonic once issued on Heliodor were ever released on CD? If not, they
> >should be! My LP has a terrible pop and skip at the end of the 98th during the
> >twinkliest harpsichord solo in any of Jochum's three recordings of the 98th (that
> >I know of).
and the Schubert is part of the Originals series.
Stan Punzel
Bob Harper
> On Thursday, April 10, 1997 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Bruce Morrison wrote:
>> On 9 Apr 1997 06:50:52 GMT, gdde...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> Speaking of old LPs not issued on CD yet, does anyone know if Eugen Jochum's
>>> 1950s early stereo Haydn Symphonies Nos. 88 and 98 with the Berlin
>>> Philharmonic once issued on Heliodor were ever released on CD? If not, they
>>> should be! My LP has a terrible pop and skip at the end of the 98th during the
>>> twinkliest harpsichord solo in any of Jochum's three recordings of the 98th (that
>>> I know of).
>
> Issued as part of a box set of Jochum's Haydn recordings (DG 474 364 2)
> and the Schubert is part of the Originals series.
>
> Stan Punzel
symphonies alone, especially 88, one of the greatest--maybe THE
greatest--ever. The Schubert's excellent as well.
Bob Harper
luke....@googlemail.com
Paul
> Yes I would agree. I'm surprised that some contributors think highly of Otto gerdes as a conductor. The brahms and Dvorak symphonies are stolidly foursquare, and the schumannfourthon supraphon the same. I believe it was part of a deal. Dgg agreed to issue some supraphon czech philharmonic recordings on their label if supraphon used gerdes for a recording. There is a much better dean Dixon of the schumannfourth from around the same time in Vienna and trips in London Noone so far as I know has e ver issued any of the three on cd. Both have been reissued. sent from tablet