Kingsway Hall
tilltheend
Hall (Sinopoli /Manon Lescaut-Tchaikovsky Manfred/Ashkenazy) and was
struck by how well balanced the recordings are, with many sumptuous,
orchestral details revealed. I'm wondering this: do any of you know
whether any Bruckner, Strauss, or Wagner (Parsifal?) was recorded
there in the Seventies? I say 1970's because it seems to me there were
great improvements in recorded technology. I'm familiar with the
Walter Legge recordings of the 1950's-1960's, but as good as they may
have been, they now sound a bit dated to me. But that Sinopoli
recording, or even the Muti Schumann symphonies...
Thanks ahead,
Dean
td
LIterally hundreds of Decca recordings emanated from Kingsway Hall.
TD
David Cook
> I was recently listening to a couple of recordings made in Kingsway
> Hall
The classic Kingsway Hall recordings were made by Kenneth Wilkinson, but I
can't find a good discography at the moment.
Dave Cook
Gerard
> I was recently listening to a couple of recordings made in Kingsway
> Hall (Sinopoli /Manon Lescaut-Tchaikovsky Manfred/Ashkenazy) and was
> struck by how well balanced the recordings are, with many sumptuous,
> orchestral details revealed. I'm wondering this: do any of you know
> whether any Bruckner, Strauss, or Wagner (Parsifal?) was recorded
> there in the Seventies? I say 1970's because it seems to me there were
> great improvements in recorded technology.
Are you sure that these great improvements are reflected in what actually has
been recorded in the 70's?
Which great improvements were those?
td
I suppose the silly-named anonymous poster meant digital sound.
Stupid dolt!
TD
notesetter
recorded by Kenneth Wilkinson in Kingsway in 1965. So far as Mahler,
I'd guess Solti's LSO recordings (1,2,3,9) were recorded there also,
but I don't have the recordings to confirm this.
The Kertesz Dvorak Symphonies and Requiem were all recorded at
Kingsway as well.
Bruce
td
And most of the Ashkenazy piano recordings were recorded in a studio,
then the recording "played back" in Kingsway Hall in order to give it
the KH sound. Totally artificial, of course, and they sound it.
TD
richardbbbb
Among the best examples I've heard are:
Britten: War Requiem
Massanet: Esclarmonde
Strauss: Alpine Symphony RPO/Kempe
Korngold: Film scores National Phil/Gerhardt
notesetter
Forgot to mention - the Kertesz Bruckner is available on Testament.
The Solti Mahlers should be fairly easy to get either new or used.
Bruce
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Interesting. I remember the first time I heard these recordings (via
the collection budget box), I thought they sounded odd and was I
surprised to see the venue listed as Kingsway Hall.
Dil.
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I can’t check now but I believe the excellent Solti Figaro was a
Kingsway hall recording, wasn’t it?
Dil.
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In some of the quieter passages of the Perlman/Ashkenazy Beethoven sonatas,
one can hear the rumble of
the London Underground trains.
td
The technique was also used by Volker Strauss in his Philips
recordings. He used a church in Soest. The musicians in his various
recordings had never seen the inside of that church. He used it for
its bloom. But the BPO would not have fit inside it.
TD
tomdeacon
> "td" <tomdedea...@mac.com> wrote in message
That was a continuing problem with that venue. Timing the sessions was
always crucial. The best took place between 2:00 and 5:00 AM when the
trains didn't run.
TD
Neil
>In some of the quieter passages of the Perlman/Ashkenazy Beethoven sonatas,
>one can hear the rumble of
>the London Underground trains.
Yeah the Piccadilly line runs right underneath though it is very deep
at that point on the line.
boulanger
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No matter, you can still hear it.
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I didn't mean to imply digital recordings. Truth be told, I'm not
certain if technological changes were made in microphones or tape
recorders, or both, but to my ears many of the 1960's era recordings
seem a bit deficient in the upper range (violins, crash cymbal upper
harmonics & sustain), and in the spatial timbre of woodwind ensembles,
especially oboes--at least on some of the early Emi Kingsway
recordings. Percussion is usually pretty good, except for non-
resonant, dull timpani thuds. Not at all to say the recordings are
unlistenable. Listening to recordings of similar vintage but different
venue seem equally (Bruckner/Solti/Sofiensaal) deficient. But from
what I've heard from late 70s & early 80's, Ashkenazy Beethoven
Symphonies & Mozart Concerti, Haintik Shostakovich, Jochum
Brahms...Wow! Turn the volume up and these recordings really sound as
if you're possibly in the hall. Granted, recording technology evolves.
Today, SACD recordings made by Pentatone and the like (the new BSO
Levine recordings may fool you into believing the orchestral members
really are in your room) may improve the realism of an instrument's
timbre even more.
Still, I'd really like to hear a Kingsway Bruckner 7,8, or 9, Strauss
Tone Poems, or perhaps some Wagner. I'm just not aware if those
pieces were ever recorded there. I acknowledge that it's the
performance we really listen to, yet to hear an orchestral attack and
then the reverberation around the hall for a few milliseconds.
Piercing flutes. Fat, ringing timpani. Sustaining strings. Full.
Resonant. Glorious. Yum.
Edward A. Cowan
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> Still, I'd really like to hear a Kingsway Bruckner 7,8, or 9, Strauss
> Tone Poems, or perhaps some Wagner. I'm just not aware if those
> pieces were ever recorded there. I acknowledge that it's the
> performance we really listen to, yet to hear an orchestral attack and
> then the reverberation around the hall for a few milliseconds.
> Piercing flutes. Fat, ringing timpani. Sustaining strings. Full.
> Resonant. Glorious. Yum.
Try Klemperer - Philharmonia Orchestra - perhaps some of the Strauss,
Bruckner, Mahler and Wagner were recorded in the Kingsway Hall.
Matthew B. Tepper
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Kerrison
If anyone has the first Stokowski 'Phase 4' LP (London SPC 21005) of
"Scheherazade," they'll find several photos inside, taken during the
Kingsway Hall sessions in September 1964. He made most of his 'Phase
4' recordings in London at the Kingsway Hall.
Also, Previn recorded his LSO Vaughan Williams symphonies cycle there
for RCA, and I think Boult recorded his own cycle of them for EMI in
the same location.. Boult had certainly recorded all his previous mono
Decca cycle in Kingsway Hall during the early 1950s.