Recordings made by young musicians who knew they were about to die.

[Mandryka]

I can think of three, and I think their situation brings a special quality to the interpretation

1. Scott Ross Frescobaldi
2. Paul Jacobs En Blanc et Noir
3. Loraine Hunt Liebeson Vergnügte Ruh

[Mark Obert-Thorn]

4. Kathleen Ferrier
5. Dinu Lipatti

MO-T

[Mark Obert-Thorn]

> 4. Kathleen Ferrier (Mahler Das Lied von der Erde, 3 Ruckert Lieder)
> 5. Dinu Lipatti (Last Recital - Bach, Mozart, Schubert, Chopin)
>
> MO-T

Updated to include the repertoire.

[cooper...@gmail.com]

6. Youri Egorov Schubert Six moments musicaux D. 780

AC

[Mandryka]

Yes, and that has a distinctive quality, maybe as a result.

[Mandryka]

I didn't know that Ferrier knew she was dying when she made that recording, thanks for posting.

[Mandryka]

Sofronitsky of course, those recordings from 1960, which people say he made under the influence of morphine which he was using to control the pain.

[Mandryka]

What about Ferras? I have a vague memory of someone mentioning a special video recording of some Bach which he made just before he died.

[CSal...@operamail.com]

Joyce Hatto?

[Precious Roy]

>
> 6. Youri Egorov Schubert Six moments musicaux D. 780
>

This Schumann concert is from 13 months before Egorov's death from AIDS. Really wonderful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX8rc8MhKY8

[Frank Berger]

Freddy Mercury:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB4K0scMysc

[Invocation]

在 2019年10月15日星期二 UTC-4上午3:33:13，Mandryka写道：

Anda Chopin Waltzes

[Mandryka]

There’s just been a release of some Schubert played by Dina Ugorskaja, she must have made it knowing that her death was imminent. I think it’s very special indeed.

Did Samson François know that he was in a race with death when he recorded his Debussy Etudes?

[Invocation]

在 2019年10月16日星期三 UTC-4上午1:32:03，Mandryka写道：

> There’s just been a release of some Schubert played by Dina Ugorskaja, she must have made it knowing that her death was imminent. I think it’s very special indeed.
>
> Did Samson François know that he was in a race with death when he recorded his Debussy Etudes?

Francois' case is kind different. Although he knew his health was deterioting, he did not associate it with death in his last years of career, until a sudden heart attack stopped him from further performance. I think it is different from those who were dignosed with cancer (including leukemia) or AIDS, who knew the death is approaching.

[mrfi...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, October 15, 2019 at 12:32:31 PM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> What about Ferras? I have a vague memory of someone mentioning a special video recording of some Bach which he made just before he died.

I think there is some late-ish film of that description, but are we sure Ferras knew he was going to die? Ferras of course was a suicide. In any case, all late Ferras video is revelatory. The way in which he aged... Only 49 when he died.

Interesting topic.

SE.

[JohnGavin]

I’m going to reach into a genre that I rarely go into. American Pop music-there’s one pop singer whose voice I’ve always loved, and that was Karen Carpenter. I was drawn to her because of her exceptional voice and because unlike many pop singers she never indulged in mannerisms but always sang with the utmost simplicity and purity of voice. No showbiz singing here, but very sincere and direct.

She passed away in 1983 due to an eating disorder. The profound sadness that caused her death could be heard more and more in her recordings especially toward the end. I think she is being re-discovered now and reevaluated in a very favorable light. If her awareness of impending death was not on a conscious level, I think she knew it on a deeper level.

[cooper...@gmail.com]

The first Ferras recording I ever owned was his Berg coupling (VC & Chamber Concerto). Even as a kid knowing nothing about the artist, I felt that I was listening to someone on the edge of a precipice. Maybe I'm retrojecting, or maybe it was the music itself. But still....

I'm embarrassed that I failed to mention Julius Katchen right away. For many years I was friendly with the man who had been his personal physician in Paris, a fine amateur pianist in his own right. Katchen was ill when he made the great recordings of the Brahms Violin Sonatas with Suk and the Cello Sonata #2 with Starker; the absence of the Cello Sonata #1 from Katchen's discography is a poignant reminder of his demise. The excellent recording of Ravel's Left-Hand Concerto with Kertész is a reminder of Katchen's last public appearance (Dec 1968), which took place about four months before his death (Apr 1969).

AC

[Mandryka]

I think it may have been the Sibelius concerto, not Bach. The French wikipedia is very good on Ferras.

[Bozo]

Pianist,composer Kevin Oldham, on Catalyst label and Albany label :

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/style/1994/04/24/classical-recordings/7b69f92a-51a6-4caa-964e-2a7b1ec7a9d0/

[Bozo]

Pianist Joseph Villa , at YT, elsewhere:

https://www.thepianofiles.com/the-tragedy-of-joseph-villa/

[Bozo]

Oldham works :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq00498TRLQ (“Across the Sea” )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l0zDgIRJow ( “Not Even If I Try “ )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr853khqFAQ ( “Paint Me “ )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjqQLIeGNYQ ( Solo piano transcription of Andante from his PC )

Villa :

Rachmaninoff, 2nd Piano Sonata,final mov., live,1991 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-copyNGarp0
Liszt, Rhapsody # 12, live early 1990’s : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWZzWHruW6w
Liszt,Valse-Impromptu, live 1973 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRjAjjVYm30

[O]

In article <22c7199c-319e-4081...@googlegroups.com>,
Bozo <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Oldham works :
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq00498TRLQ (łAcross the Sea˛ )
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l0zDgIRJow ( łNot Even If I Try ł )
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr853khqFAQ ( łPaint Me ł )

>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjqQLIeGNYQ ( Solo piano transcription of
> Andante from his PC )
>
> Villa :
>
> Rachmaninoff, 2nd Piano Sonata,final mov., live,1991 :
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-copyNGarp0

> Liszt, Rhapsody # 12, live early 1990ąs :

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWZzWHruW6w
> Liszt,Valse-Impromptu, live 1973 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRjAjjVYm30

Terence Judd, discussed here a few months back, and his tremendous
recording of the Prok 3.

https://open.spotify.com/album/4ZfYilCyZF948DQS8lOc5E?si=UaS2r3XUSV6b7PI
MiysYVg

-Owen

[gggg...@gmail.com]

Concerning Lipatti:

http://classicalnotes.net/reviews/lipatti.html

[Lawrence Chalmers]

On Tuesday, October 15, 2019 at 12:33:13 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:

How long before the death of Paul Jacobs was his last recording? His Debussy
works have long been a favorite of mine.

[gggg...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, October 15, 2019 at 6:02:22 AM UTC-7, Mark Obert-Thorn wrote:

Concerning Lipatti:

- As perverse as it might sound, the fact is that confrontations with mortality transformed artists like Dinu Lipatti and Ferenc Fricsay to produce transcendent performances that boosted their perception even beyond the extraordinary levels they had previously attained. After all, the sheer knowledge that a performance of a work is likely to be his last charges an artist with heightened responsibility and can endow the result with a special aura.

http://classicalnotes.net/classics/mahlersym2.html

[Andy Evans]

I remember seeing Katchen live, but can't remember the year. It was in a small town in Wales - Bridgend. God knows what he was doing there. Odd for a pianist of his stature. It was 1960-something but can't say exactly when. I cherish his Ravel G major concerto.

[sfr...@nycap.rr.com]

On Tuesday, October 15, 2019 at 3:33:13 AM UTC-4, Mandryka wrote:
> I can think of three, and I think their situation brings a special quality to the interpretation
>
> 1. Scott Ross Frescobaldi
> 2. Paul Jacobs En Blanc et Noir
> 3. Loraine Hunt Liebeson Vergnügte Ruh

When I read the heading of this thread I had in my mind a picture of a young violinist standing on a railroad track playing his/her instrument with a train barreling down. In my mind it was a Gahan Wilson picture.

MIFrost

[Neil]

On Thursday, 17 October 2019 01:48:21 UTC+1, Bozo wrote:
rom his PC )
>
> Villa :
>
> Rachmaninoff, 2nd Piano Sonata,final mov., live,1991 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-copyNGarp0
> Liszt, Rhapsody # 12, live early 1990’s : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWZzWHruW6w
> Liszt,Valse-Impromptu, live 1973 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRjAjjVYm30

Mark Ainley on Joseph Villa https://www.thepianofiles.com/remembering-joseph-villa/ (posted this week)

[Mandryka]

On Saturday, 18 April 2020 08:35:56 UTC+1, dk wrote:

> On Tuesday, October 15, 2019 at 12:33:13 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
> > I can think of three, and I think their situation brings a special quality to the interpretation
> >
> > 1. Scott Ross Frescobaldi
> > 2. Paul Jacobs En Blanc et Noir
> > 3. Loraine Hunt Liebeson Vergnügte Ruh
>

> Rosa Tamarkina:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe1SGyn_T5I
>
> dk

Thanks Dan -- a new name for me.

[cooper...@gmail.com]

Oh, she was phenomenal. What a loss! The three Vista Vera CDs of her performances (reissued on Scribendum and possibly still in print: https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8697444--the-art-of-rosa-tamarkina) are essential listening. Aside from the solo performances, her recordings of the Taneyev and Brahms Piano Quintets with the Bolshoi Theatre Quartet are among the finest ever imo.

AC

[markm...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, October 15, 2019 at 8:05:59 AM UTC-5, Mark Obert-Thorn wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 15, 2019 at 9:02:22 AM UTC-4, Mark Obert-Thorn wrote:

> > On Tuesday, October 15, 2019 at 3:33:13 AM UTC-4, Mandryka wrote:
> > > I can think of three, and I think their situation brings a special quality to the interpretation
> > >
> > > 1. Scott Ross Frescobaldi
> > > 2. Paul Jacobs En Blanc et Noir
> > > 3. Loraine Hunt Liebeson Vergnügte Ruh
> >

> > 4. Kathleen Ferrier (Mahler Das Lied von der Erde, 3 Ruckert Lieder)
> > 5. Dinu Lipatti (Last Recital - Bach, Mozart, Schubert, Chopin)
> >
> > MO-T
>
> Updated to include the repertoire.

Question about the Lipatti last recital: I don't know of any release that includes his encore, the Bach-Hess Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring. Was that recorded?

[gggg gggg]

On Monday, October 14, 2019 at 9:33:13 PM UTC-10, Mandryka wrote:
> I can think of three, and I think their situation brings a special quality to the interpretation
>
> 1. Scott Ross Frescobaldi
> 2. Paul Jacobs En Blanc et Noir
> 3. Loraine Hunt Liebeson Vergnügte Ruh

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.classical/c/dkKrvXX27Pw