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Tommy Grand

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Nov 26, 2009, 3:03:12 PM11/26/09
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Friends,

Get this music at once: http://www.editionsorphee.com/store/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=119

Also, get the mp3 album for only $5.99:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Interludes/dp/B000XRFQ1I/ref=dm_cd_album_lnk

I think Richard Pick, is the Aaron Copland of the cg. A good antidote
to all the eurotrash music out there.

TG

agil

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Nov 27, 2009, 1:44:22 AM11/27/09
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"Tommy Grand" <howar...@yahoo.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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You are right, Richard Pick was a very gifted composer, with a solid musical
background and an original imagination. He was not second to other, and more
famous, composers of guitar music of his own generation, such as John
Duarte, Antonio Lauro, Abel Carlevaro. A pity he did not write any work - at
the best of my knowledge - beyond the borders of the guitar solo or guitar
duo. I believe his Method for Guitar is the best of the 20th century, both
for the quality of the included music and for his didactic project. A
musician whom I would have gladly dealt with.


ag

John LaCroix

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Nov 27, 2009, 2:06:40 AM11/27/09
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I have 'School of the Guitar'. Okay, so it didn't interest me much
when I got it - I'll dust it off and take another look...

Tommy Grand

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Nov 27, 2009, 9:30:11 AM11/27/09
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On Nov 27, 1:06 am, John LaCroix <john.l.lacr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have 'School of the Guitar'. Okay, so it didn't interest me much
> when I got it - I'll dust it off and take another look...

Just play thru the 1st interlude a few times. It ought to transport
you to peaceful scenes of your beautiful Vermont countryside! If not,
then this music just isn't for you...

Paul Magnussen

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Nov 27, 2009, 2:13:13 PM11/27/09
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agil wrote:

> You are right, Richard Pick was a very gifted composer, with a solid

> musical background and an original imagination. (etc)

Are there any recordings available?

Paul Magnussen

agil

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Nov 27, 2009, 3:12:08 PM11/27/09
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"Paul Magnussen" <magic...@earthlink.net> ha scritto nel messaggio
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I have no recording. Matanya kindly sent my Pick's output, and I read
through it.

ag

Lutemann

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Nov 27, 2009, 5:09:55 PM11/27/09
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On Nov 27, 12:44 am, "agil" <calatrav...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Tommy Grand" <howardj...@yahoo.com> ha scritto nel messaggionews:e04a4fae-8001-4b4e...@j35g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...

ag says, "I believe his Method for Guitar is the best of the 20th


century, both
for the quality of the included music and for his didactic project. A
musician whom I would have gladly dealt with."

Odd that the best method of the 20th century doesn't turn up very much
in various college and secondary guitar programs. Do you know of any
such programs that uses the Pick method as their primary method? Now
of Pick's student, Aaron Shearer, the story is a little different.
(I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself. BTW, I like some of Pick's
student music)

John LaCroix

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Nov 27, 2009, 6:12:22 PM11/27/09
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Okay, I'll give it a shot and report back...

agil

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Nov 27, 2009, 9:21:10 PM11/27/09
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"Lutemann" <lute...@aol.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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>
> ag says, "I believe his Method for Guitar is the best of the 20th
> century, both
> for the quality of the included music and for his didactic project. A
> musician whom I would have gladly dealt with."
>
> Odd that the best method of the 20th century doesn't turn up very much
> in various college and secondary guitar programs. Do you know of any
> such programs that uses the Pick method as their primary method? Now
> of Pick's student, Aaron Shearer, the story is a little different.
> (I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself. BTW, I like some of Pick's
> student music)

I hope that my opinion about Pick's music will encourage some
American teachers to read his music, with no disregard to Shearer's
excellent didactic works.
I referred to Pick mainly as to a composer who wrote also didactic pieces -
whilst I have no acquaintance with Shearer's compositional talents.

ag

IslandStorm

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Nov 27, 2009, 10:30:14 PM11/27/09
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On Nov 27, 12:13 pm, Paul Magnussen <magicon...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Are there any recordings available?


All 24 Interludes, plus the "One Day In Time" suite, were recorded on
CD in 1999 by Steven Suvada. Private label, SS Custom Music #1120.

mata...@gmail.com

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Nov 27, 2009, 11:26:41 PM11/27/09
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Also by Adriano Sebastiani:

http://www.adrianosebastiani.it/discografia.html

MO.

Andrew Schulman

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Nov 28, 2009, 1:01:01 AM11/28/09
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On Nov 27, 11:26 pm, "matan...@gmail.com" <matan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Also by Adriano Sebastiani:
>
> http://www.adrianosebastiani.it/discografia.html
>
> MO.
>
>
He's back!

Andrew

edspyhill01

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Nov 28, 2009, 1:05:27 AM11/28/09
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I don't think Richard Pick's "School of Guitar" is an introduction to
CG. It would be used after Shearer's Vol. 1. Pick's book does a much
better job of presenting practical theory and harmony than Shearer's
subsequent volumes and supplements. The Richard Pick book is
comparable to the best Jazz Guitar books that teach guitar-centric
theory and harmony using keys/chords. It does an excellent job of
building sight reading skills up to 3-note chords in all the keys.
It's a method for ensemble players and attempts to put guitarists in
the same league as every other classical instrument. These may be the
reasons it is not widely used - it's "hard". Just pages 25 & 26 may
be worth the price of admission.

Lutemann

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Nov 28, 2009, 9:11:49 AM11/28/09
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> be worth the price of admission.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Edspyhill says, "These may be the


reasons it is not widely used - it's "hard".

Yes, Ed, but this material does not have to be hard, that's why it is
not used for instruction. If you want hard try learning the classical
guitar from scratch with good technique using the Carcassi Method.
Let me qualify my statements here; I like both the Carcassi and Rich
Pick pieces and have used both, but these are not method books. Also,
Shearer's approach to learning fingerboard harmony and scales has
never been surpassed, IMO. Of course much of what Shearer taught was
never published.

If you want to learn fingerboard harmony, learn to play straight
rhythm guitar. The only reason I suggest this is because it is so
available and you will end up with a useful skill. Shearer, BTW, was
and excellent jazz rhythm player. He showed me the basics in about 10
minutes.

edspyhill01

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Nov 28, 2009, 10:43:26 AM11/28/09
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I didn't mean the material was presented badly and that made it
"hard". I meant the dedication for learning the material for most
students of CG is not there. I have all the Shearer books (I'm three
degrees separation from Shearer: me, my teacher, my teacher's teacher,
Shearer). ( Okay, show off, you studied directly with Shearer) ;-)
Shearer's volumes on key centers and scales are presented in a very
dry, sterile manner. The Richard Pick book is not a beginner method
book; far from it. On second thought I would say Pick's book should
be used after Shearer's original Vols.1&2. Pick's book is for the
dedicated student, using it with a coach/teacher or even self guided.
No need for you to feel like you need to defend Shearer.

Tommy Grand

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Nov 28, 2009, 11:05:51 AM11/28/09
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On Nov 27, 4:09 pm, Lutemann <lutem...@aol.com> wrote:

> Odd that the best method of the 20th century doesn't turn up very much
> in various college and secondary guitar programs. Do you know of any
> such programs that uses the Pick method as their primary method? Now
> of Pick's student, Aaron Shearer, the story is a little different.

I accept this claim as true although I've never seen evidence of it.
But I'm curious: are there any other instruments where beginner
methods are widely used at the college level?

edspyhill01

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Nov 28, 2009, 11:07:29 AM11/28/09
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Excellent point!

Lutemann

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Nov 28, 2009, 11:39:55 AM11/28/09
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Yes, there are some standard books in most instruments. I know this
is true for the classical bass.

edspyhill01

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Nov 28, 2009, 12:11:09 PM11/28/09
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Why would a music major in college need a beginners book for any
instrument?

Tommy Grand

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Nov 28, 2009, 12:27:03 PM11/28/09
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On Nov 28, 11:11 am, edspyhill01 <edspyhil...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Why would a music major in college need a beginners book for any
> instrument?

I expect Kent will say that remediation is the reason, and that may
be. But I wonder why anyone in need of such a technical overhaul
would be admitted in the first place. It's why I question how far
along you need to be in order to get into a grad program. If
undergrads are total beginners, then...

Paul Magnussen

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Nov 28, 2009, 1:19:39 PM11/28/09
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Thanks. At the moment, if you search for "Steven Suvada" on Amazon
music, nothing comes up but mp3s. However, if you search mp3 albums,
"The Interludes" comes up, with the proclamation "Also available in CD
Format", and when you click that link, you get the same album on CD.

The reason is that Steven Suvada is not listed as the performer on the
CD, only Pick as the composer. I will submit an "Update product Info"
to fix this.

Paul Magnussen

thomas

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Nov 28, 2009, 5:39:21 PM11/28/09
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On Nov 28, 12:01 am, Andrew Schulman <and...@abacaproductions.com>
wrote:

...and pushing product.

thomas

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Nov 28, 2009, 5:42:45 PM11/28/09
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On Nov 28, 11:11 am, edspyhill01 <edspyhil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Why would a music major in college need a beginners book for any
> instrument?

Wrong question. Non-majors might need a beginner's book.

edspyhill01

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Nov 28, 2009, 6:01:14 PM11/28/09
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Depends on what we will consider understated. I'm talking about a
people majoring in CG performance. Anyone in college taking guitar
lessons for the first time needs a complete beginner book. We've
already agreed Richard Pick's Mel Bay book was not for beginners. Now
don't get all pedantic on us.

thomas

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Nov 28, 2009, 6:31:02 PM11/28/09
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On Nov 28, 11:27 am, Tommy Grand <howardj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> But I wonder why anyone in need of such a technical overhaul
> would be admitted in the first place.

Because the department or institution needs to fill its seats with
warm bodies. Outside of the elite institutions, this happens every
semester, all over the country.

Lutemann

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Nov 30, 2009, 9:02:16 AM11/30/09
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Tommy asks, "I expect Kent will say that remediation is the reason,


and that may
be. But I wonder why anyone in need of such a technical overhaul
would be admitted in the first place. "

If the guitar professor is any good, he will start most of his
students from scratch. Also, most college programs have a guitar class
for beginners and then there are minors who start at a very low
level. If you (Tommy) were my student, we'd probably start the first
week on open strings and then quickly move into repertoire in
Shearer's old Vol II (Alfred Pub.), working mainly on phrasing and
interpretation. That Vol II is a great repertoire book and is not
easy. We'd also work on visualizing the fingerboard through pieces and
position studies.

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