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Lawrence Wayte

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Does anybody have any opinions on Alhambra guitars? I'm considering buying
one sight unseen. Thanks

--Larry

Tom Schiekel

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> Does anybody have any opinions on Alhambra guitars? I'm considering buying

Yes, I have a really bad opinion about these guitars. Most of them are
cheap, of course, but I don't like the sound and it's hard to play on
them... I tested about 20 Alhambras half a year ago and their price was
between 200 DM(about 62 pounds) and 1100 DM (343 pounds). They all had a
very
large distance from the strings to the hole and it was thus hard to play
with the left hand.
If you think of buying a guitar about 160 pounds I would try the guitars of
Harnandez. They are really easy to play sound quite good, They have a
very good value for money.

Tom (German)


JamieWG

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Oct 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/4/00
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In article <39dad5dd$0$16588$7d5a...@news.compuserve.de>, "Tom Schiekel"
<K.T.Sc...@gmx.de> writes:

> I tested about 20 Alhambras half a year ago and their price was
>between 200 DM(about 62 pounds) and 1100 DM (343 pounds). They all had a
>very
>large distance from the strings to the hole and it was thus hard to play
>with the left hand.

Most of the Alhambra guitars that I get in for my students need an action
adjustment to make them easier to play. It takes me about 10 minutes to do
that. As for sound, I have not found anything better than the Alhambra and
Almansa lines, assuming one does not have to pay the full list price for them
(which I think is too high). Many stores, such as Sam Ash and Luthiers Music,
do sell these instruments at discounted prices. Some teachers who sell them in
large quantities can also get discounts.
Jamie W. Grossman
Intermediate Classical Guitar Repertoire Favorites Homepage:
http://www.maui.net/~rtadaki/intcgrep.html

DID

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Oct 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/4/00
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I could tell you stories
'bout Alhambra but I won't.

Some other guitars:
Juan Estruch Guitars, Barcelona
http://www.luthiers.es/
Intonation very good, smooth/perfect neck,
I bought a Flamenco No3 (not listed on web) 45 000 Pst.
Sitka Spruce, Cypress back/sides, Ebony fretboard, Ceder Neck

Amalio Burget Guitars, Valencia
http://www.burguet.com/
My next classical guitar gonna be a Burget
I did try out some really good guitars when I was in
Barcelona a month ago. Price was 60 000 - 80 000Pst
Wonder what an AB model sounds like......

Admira Guitars, Guipúzcoa
http://www.admira.es/
The choice of a great number of Spanish guitarists,
until they can afford a 1 000 000 Pst. guitar.

Lawrence Wayte wrote in message ...


>Does anybody have any opinions on Alhambra guitars? I'm considering buying

to...@my-deja.com

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Oct 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/10/00
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Hi!

I very much disagree with Mr. Schiekel's opinion about Alhambra
guitars. I have a model 5P, which is about the middle of their linup,
costing around $700 at Mars Music. It seems to be very well made, using
traditional methods, such as, a spanish foot and solid band lining,
etc. The find the tone to be very rich and warm (I thought my old Goya
had nice tone...this is better). The woods used appear to be very good
quality, i.e. tight grained cedar top, ebony reinforced cedar neck,
etc. I believe the Indian rosewood back and sides are laminated on this
model, but they are beautiful and bookmatched inside and out. Good
tuners...the same ones that are on the Rimerez "R" models. I did find
the action to be slightly high for my taste, but it was about 4 - 4 1/2
mm at the 12th fret on the low "E", which is right where they
recommend. I put a slightly lower saddle in, which improved playability
for me. I played several different Alhambra models, including
flamenco's, before deciding on this one, an I was impressed with all. I
also compared this with other brands, like Rodriguez, Yamaha's,
Alvarez, and even low model Rimerez'(R1 & R3), and didn't find any that
I liked better or thought were worth the additional price.

T. Morrison


In article <lFnC5.35417$jD2.5...@typhoon.we.rr.com>,


"Lawrence Wayte" <Lwa...@mediaone.net> wrote:
> Does anybody have any opinions on Alhambra guitars? I'm considering
buying
> one sight unseen. Thanks
>
> --Larry
>
>


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sergio

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Oct 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/11/00
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Here, in Spain, Alhambra is considered one of the best middle-range guitars
manufacturers. A good Alhambra is a very good guitar.
There are many manufacturers with "spanish" names that are selling their
instruments in the web, but many of them are absolutely unknown in Spain.

Sergio (... Spain)

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Umberto Bottarel

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Oct 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/11/00
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"sergio"

> Here, in Spain, Alhambra is considered one of the best middle-range
guitars
> manufacturers. A good Alhambra is a very good guitar.
> There are many manufacturers with "spanish" names that are selling their
> instruments in the web, but many of them are absolutely
> unknown in Spain.

Three years ago I buyed an Alhambra Lutier (spruce top, ebony fingerboard,
rio rosewood back and sides) going directly to manufacturers at Muro de
Alcoy (?) a little village near to Alicante.
A very good guitar, no much expensive (about $1400).

Umberto

sergio

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Umberto Bottarel <eur...@iol.it> escribió en el mensaje de noticias
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> A very good guitar, no much expensive (about $1400).

No much expensive?
We the spanish people usually spend less money in guitars :-)
...or they, the spanish luthiers, don´t charge too much to us, the spanish
guitarists :-)))
Now seriously, I think there are Alhambras much more expensive, but you have
an excellent one.

BTW, I buyed last week a Mariano Biu (Luthier from Zaragoza) hand-made
class. guitar, used. I payed 10.000 ptas (60? or $58) for it. Of course,
it's not a very good instrument, but I think the cost of the skilled labour
and the materials is much higher.
Saludos
Sergio

Lawrence Wayte

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Oct 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/11/00
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Thanks for all the replies to my post about Alhambra guitars. I went ahead
and bought the one I was considering, a used model 3C, and am now awaiting
delivery. It should arrive within a couple of days. I'll let you all know
what I think about it, but since it's my first nylon string guitar, my
opinion won't count for much. As far as I can tell, I may need to have the
action lowered, but that didn't dissuade me from buying the guitar. Thanks
again.

--Larry

<to...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8rvvkn$p1j$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...


> Hi!
>
> I very much disagree with Mr. Schiekel's opinion about Alhambra
> guitars. I have a model 5P, which is about the middle of their linup,
> costing around $700 at Mars Music. It seems to be very well made, using
> traditional methods, such as, a spanish foot and solid band lining,
> etc. The find the tone to be very rich and warm (I thought my old Goya
> had nice tone...this is better). The woods used appear to be very good
> quality, i.e. tight grained cedar top, ebony reinforced cedar neck,
> etc. I believe the Indian rosewood back and sides are laminated on this
> model, but they are beautiful and bookmatched inside and out. Good
> tuners...the same ones that are on the Rimerez "R" models. I did find
> the action to be slightly high for my taste, but it was about 4 - 4 1/2
> mm at the 12th fret on the low "E", which is right where they
> recommend. I put a slightly lower saddle in, which improved playability
> for me. I played several different Alhambra models, including
> flamenco's, before deciding on this one, an I was impressed with all. I
> also compared this with other brands, like Rodriguez, Yamaha's,
> Alvarez, and even low model Rimerez'(R1 & R3), and didn't find any that
> I liked better or thought were worth the additional price.
>
> T. Morrison
>
>
> In article <lFnC5.35417$jD2.5...@typhoon.we.rr.com>,
> "Lawrence Wayte" <Lwa...@mediaone.net> wrote:

> > Does anybody have any opinions on Alhambra guitars? I'm considering
> buying
> > one sight unseen. Thanks
> >
> > --Larry
> >
> >
>
>

Umberto Bottarel

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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"sergio"
>
> Umberto Bottarel

> > A very good guitar, no much expensive(about
> > $1400).

> No much expensive?
> We the spanish people usually spend less money in guitars :-)
> ...or they, the spanish luthiers, don´t charge too much to us, the spanish
> guitarists :-)))
> Now seriously, I think there are Alhambras much more expensive, but you
have
> an excellent one.

-------- My guitar was the more expensive in their price-list ... guitars
not hand-made.
I mean my guitar is very cheap, because in my country the same guitar prices
about the double ($2400).

> BTW, I buyed last week a Mariano Biu (Luthier from Zaragoza) hand-made
> class. guitar, used. I payed 10.000 ptas (60? or $58) for it. Of course,
> it's not a very good instrument, but I think the cost of the skilled
labour
> and the materials is much higher.

------- :)))
Ciao
Umberto


FrankLefebre

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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I purchased an Alhambra guitar in Italy in January 2000....and LOVE it!!! I use
it in all my performances! It has great tone & projection. It is a model 3C.

FrankL...@aol.com
Pennsylvania USA

alison

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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I was so happy to see this post ! I bought an Alhambra twenty years ago - my
first guitar and it cost me sixty quid - all my pocket money for a year. I
still have it, and its still great. Tony.

Felipe Zubieta

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Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
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Hi

I like very much Alhambra guitars because two weeks ago I bought one 6-P
cedar top. Here in Chile there aren't spruce top but don't mind because its
sounds good too and in my school most people like it better.

Bye

felipe zubieta
santiago de chile


Lawrence Wayte

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Oct 14, 2000, 8:29:15 PM10/14/00
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I bought the used Alhambra 3C that caused me to initiate this thread, and
I'm happy to report that it's a great guitar. And, despite warnings to the
contrary, the action is fine for me -- no need to have it lowered as far as
I can tell (but maybe that's because my fingers are used to pushing around
steel strings?). It sounds great to my ears, and it was a relative bargain,
especially being used. Thanks to all for the input. Now, back to learning
how to play it . . .

--Larry
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Davidguitar

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>I bought the used Alhambra 3C that caused me to initiate this thread, and
>I'm happy to report that it's a great guitar

Alhambra is the best classical guitar for the money available today. Period.

larry...@my-deja.com

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> Alhambra is the best classical guitar for the money available today.
>Period.

And of course you have tried them all so this is how you know this as
a fact. Personally I like the Esteve for the money but unlike you I am
not a god who knows everything so this is just my opinion and others
may find they like other guitars more.

Joe Cunningham

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Nov 10, 2000, 8:34:20 PM11/10/00
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Larry,
I haven't found a store that carries Esteve, but have heard nothing but
great things. My latest round of music store playing turned up a Cordaba
70F ... since I concentrate on Flamenco it really had a great growl that I
found lacking in most other flamencos in that price range (including the
Alhambra). But I might just twaddle along on my Raimundo and save up for a
Conde or similar quality flamenco. Like Viv said ... I'm afraid of spending
1400-1600 on a guitar that I outgrow quickly. Might as well save the $$$
and get a concert-level instrument. At least thats how I think.

JC
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Mark Westling

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Nov 10, 2000, 9:35:58 PM11/10/00
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Joe,

I suggest you contact Ron Fernandez in Irvine, CA at r...@fernandezmusic.com

Ron is the importer/distributor of Esteve guitars. A very helpful guy...

Best regards,

Mark Westling

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larry...@my-deja.com

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Joe Cunningham wrote:
> Larry, I haven't found a store that carries Esteve,

No guitar center in your neck of the woods? Ron Fernandez imports them:
http://www.fernandezmusic.com/
I'm sure he would know of a store in your area.

> but have heard nothing but great things.

Ron does the setup on each guitar that I've played and I really like
what I've heard even with their higher end models.

> and get a concert-level instrument.

There ya go. I love my concert guitars and can't imagine playing on
anything else these days. I used to play a low end guitar for gigs but
now I use one of my concert models that I had a pickup put in and I
just love it and wonder why it took me so long since it's so much nicer
to play than any low end guitar. Too much work to constantly be
correcting the sound as I play on a low end guitar. It's like trying to
drive a Volkswagen in a race on mountain roads, just not responsive
enough to make it enjoyable.

to...@my-deja.com

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I have an Alhambra 5P and think it is an exceptional guitar, as far as
student models go. I tried an Esteve (not sure of model) at Guitar
Center, and I thought it was also excellent, although it was a couple
hundred dollars more than I paid. I don't know if I liked it better
than my Alhambra since I couldn't do a side by side comparison, but I
don't think you could go wrong with either one.

Tom M.


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larry...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > Alhambra is the best classical guitar for the money available today.
> >Period.
>
> And of course you have tried them all so this is how you know this as
> a fact. Personally I like the Esteve for the money but unlike you I am
> not a god who knows everything so this is just my opinion and others
> may find they like other guitars more.
>

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