Sungha Jung: 13-years-old guitar prodigy on Youtube
Red Cloud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0xHWY2TRpU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4CR3GoB3YY
This child name Sungha Jung from South Korea is the most talent
guitarist I've known. His current skill is on the top of the world
just being played for 3 or 4 yr. This must be done by some magical
inner skill that no one understand. He must has somekind of inner
mechanic to figure out guitar
playing. His fingers must be ears or something.
Lutemann
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0xHWY2TRpU&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4CR3GoB3YY
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> This child name Sungha Jung from South Korea is the most talent
> guitarist I've known. His current skill is on the top of the world
> just being played for 3 or 4 yr. This must be done by some magical
> inner skill that no one understand. He must has somekind of inner
> mechanic to figure out guitar
> playing. His fingers must be ears or something.
He is a great talent but he needs a teacher.
Richard Yates
Check out his web site and more recent recordings like:
http://www.sunghajung.com/xe/?mid=playing_video&document_srl=9643
and then tell us what you could teach him.
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> Check out his web site and more recent recordings like:
>
> http://www.sunghajung.com/xe/?mid=playing_video&document_srl=9643
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> and then tell us what you could teach him.
Richard, how would you notate that RH style? I wrote some pieces
using that same technique and had no idea how to write it using
standard notation.
himme...@verizon.net
> On Feb 9, 10:56 pm, Red Cloud <mmdir2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> > This child name Sungha Jung from South Korea is the most talent
> > guitarist I've known. His current skill is on the top of the world
> > just being played for 3 or 4 yr. This must be done by some magical
> > inner skill that no one understand. He must has somekind of inner
> > mechanic to figure out guitar
> > playing. His fingers must be ears or something.
>
> He is a great talent but he needs a teacher.
I saw a video of him with his teacher, who is working with him to
develop exactly the style you see in his videos.
Richard Yates
a mystery to me.
Steve Freides
I'd like it a whole lot better with a whole lot less reverb.
Very nice otherwise, though, but it sounds like studio overdub.
-S-
Douglas Seth
Larry,
What are you talking about? The slapping in the RH? That is fairly
simple to notate. Everything else would just be standard notation.
For the slapping, just use xxxxxx on the stems of the rhythmic value.
Provide an explaination of the xxxxxxx in a footnote.
Doug
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> Larry,
> What are you talking about? The slapping in the RH? That is fairly
> simple to notate. Everything else would just be standard notation.
> For the slapping, just use xxxxxx on the stems of the rhythmic value.
> Provide an explaination of the xxxxxxx in a footnote.
First, it's not slapping but a noisy return of the RH fingers to the
strings that makes the rhythm sound. You can press the strings so they
hit the fretboard but it's the rhythmic bouncing of the hand that
makes it work. Plus sometimes there are finger strums tossed in the
keep the effect going.
Second, I'm not sure how to explain it in a way that would makes any
sense without a demonstration - see above.
Slogoin
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> First, it's not slapping but a noisy return of the RH fingers to the
This piece, BTW:
http://www.sunghajung.com/xe/?mid=playing_video&document_srl=9643
anacephalic
Even the most precocious kids are nothing but trained monkey's. I
hate when parents do that crap to kids!
Douglas Seth
> On Feb 10, 2:32 pm, Douglas Seth <douglasse...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
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> > Larry,
> > What are you talking about? The slapping in the RH? That is fairly
> > simple to notate. Everything else would just be standard notation.
> > For the slapping, just use xxxxxx on the stems of the rhythmic value.
> > Provide an explaination of the xxxxxxx in a footnote.
>
> First, it's not slapping but a noisy return of the RH fingers to the
> strings that makes the rhythm sound. You can press the strings so they
> hit the fretboard but it's the rhythmic bouncing of the hand that
> makes it work. Plus sometimes there are finger strums tossed in the
> keep the effect going.
Yes, I understand the technique and what he is doing. I would still
notate the way I explained with some additional explaination in a
footnote.
>
> Second, I'm not sure how to explain it in a way that would makes any
> sense without a demonstration - see above.
I get what you are saying.
dsi1
Such a crispy sound! My guess is that you'd be hard pressed to make that
sound unless you're wearing metal fingerpicks and playing on metal strings.
Douglas Seth
> On Feb 10, 2:32 pm, Douglas Seth <douglasse...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
>
> > Larry,
> > What are you talking about? The slapping in the RH? That is fairly
> > simple to notate. Everything else would just be standard notation.
> > For the slapping, just use xxxxxx on the stems of the rhythmic value.
> > Provide an explaination of the xxxxxxx in a footnote.
>
>
For a lack of a better word, I used slapping, but your detailed
explaination is basically the technique. I was specific. My bad!
Surely, you knew what I meant.
Doug
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> For a lack of a better word, I used slapping, but your detailed
> explaination is basically the technique. I was specific. My bad!
> Surely, you knew what I meant.
Yes, I understood but a reader who didn't know the technique might
think it WAS slapping so I used that to make the point that words just
don't cut it. Even if you could describe the basic technique it may
not hack it. I'll try it when I get back to those pieces and see if it
makes sense to notate it with the explanation... maybe I'll add a link
to a video :-)
Thanks for the response. I really like the technique but I learned
it before I started CG and never really thought to notate it until I
started writing out my pieces.
Slogoin
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> Such a crispy sound! My guess is that you'd be hard pressed to make that
> sound unless you're wearing metal fingerpicks and playing on metal strings.
It works well on nylon but sometimes you hit the soundboard ;-0
Tommy Grand
> maybe I'll add a link to a video :-)
Do one about pracitising pimi as well.
Red Cloud
He got $10,000 guitar as free gift.
dsi1
He was a big hit on Korean TV too! My guess is that most of the millions
of folks that have seen his videos have never heard of a Lakewood guitar
before. They sure have now. After all, that headstock is being shoved
into our faces. The 10 grand (suggested list price) spent is probably
the best advertising deal they could have ever gotten. I love it!!! Gong
Hee Fat Choy!
Charlie
think so.
Charlie
"Red Cloud" <mmdi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Red Cloud
> Prodigy? Not from where i sit. Good? ya, talented? ya. Prodigy? i don't
> think so.
>
> Charlie
>
And you are what? God or something? You know there are tons of
crazy motherfucker in American society.
> "Red Cloud" <mmdir2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Red Cloud
Hey he does not understand a word of your chinese-rambling. .
Red Cloud
> think so.
>
> Charlie
>
He already on the top of the world. The greatest guitarist want to
play with him.
I mean how can anyone play better than him! Show me any video someone
who can play better than him. Show me!
> "Red Cloud" <mmdir2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
dsi1
>
> Hey he does not understand a word of your chinese-rambling. .
You're mistaken about that. How could a Korean not know about the lunar
new year? You're silly! :-)
himme...@verizon.net
HI Red Cloud, start here and work your way through from there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdx2svBySuM&feature=related
S
himme...@verizon.net
wrote:
And while you're at it, listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzO8TbAMquA&feature=related
S
himme...@verizon.net
And since this is a classical newsgroup, let's have someone who blows
all these others away with technique and musicality:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF32tCrLgIA
S
Douglas Seth
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Amen! Aniello Desiderio is great! I love his 20th century sonatas CD.
I can't imagine anyone playing better.
DS
anacephalic
Oh wow, yes another barrueco! i saw another video where Aniello was
strong arming the guitar a little too much, but this is ACTPAP (as
close to perfection as possible)
Charlie
http://www.fromthetop.org/radio/thisweek
Listen to some of their previous shows. From the Top features many, many,
many young musicians all of who are as good if not better than Sungha Jung.
I did not pan this young man, by the way, i simply questioned your use of
the word 'prodigy'.
And no, i don't think he is the best musician on the planet, not yet anyway.
:-)
Charlie
Lutemann
> Lutemann wrote:
> > On Feb 9, 10:56 pm, Red Cloud <mmdir2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0xHWY2TRpU&feature=relatedhttp://www....
>
> >> This child name Sungha Jung from South Korea is the most talent
> >> guitarist I've known. His current skill is on the top of the world
> >> just being played for 3 or 4 yr. This must be done by some magical
> >> inner skill that no one understand. He must has somekind of inner
> >> mechanic to figure out guitar
> >> playing. His fingers must be ears or something.
>
>
> Check out his web site and more recent recordings like:
>
> http://www.sunghajung.com/xe/?mid=playing_video&document_srl=9643
>
> and then tell us what you could teach him.
I could teach him how to organize his thoughts on playing pop music.
(See "Jazz Comping For Fingerstyle Guitar", Mel Pub). I could also
teach him classical guitar which he doesn't play.
Brad Anders
Really fantastic, thanks, you made this thread worth reading with that
vid. I love Scarlatti.
Brad Anders
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> I could teach him how to organize his thoughts on playing pop music.
> (See "Jazz Comping For Fingerstyle Guitar", Mel Pub). I could also
> teach him classical guitar which he doesn't play.
He could teach you more than you could teach him. He's got rhythm.
dsi1
Well, it looks like you put that 13 year old kid in his place! :-)
Lutemann
If I didn't have rhythm, I couldn't play with with the Dirty Dozen
Brass Band at the Cafe Du Monde in New Orleans. You've got to be able
to follow that tuba player or you are screwed.
Lutemann
Thousands can play better than that kid, but that doesn't take
anything away from his wonderful playing. Why does everybody have to
be the best? I (and several others on this list) could turn this kid
into a real virtuoso. This is not an insulting thing to say, it's the
truth.
Slogoin
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> If I didn't have rhythm, I couldn't play with with the Dirty Dozen
> Brass Band at the Cafe Du Monde in New Orleans. You've got to be able
> to follow that tuba player or you are screwed.
Nothing you've posted has as good a groove as Sungha Jung. If you
can't hear that then you also have a tin ear.
Lutemann
Slo says, "Nothing you've posted has as good a groove as Sungha Jung.
If youcan't hear that then you also have a tin ear. "
Slo, I don't play the guitar. Also, I never said the kid didn't have
talent, in fact the opposite, nor did I compare myself to him. I just
said that I could teach him a lot, and I could.
Slogoin
> I just said that I could teach him a lot, and I could.
He could teach you a thing or two about music if you knew how to
listen to a kid who plays better than you ever did.
Red Cloud
wrote:
Hey bozo. Sungha can play better this white guys. Look Sungha is one-
man band as a kid. Are you jealous that Asian kid play better than
any white guy?
I think you are very jealous man. Hey Asians are actually smarter and
intelligent
than white race! Look ASSHOLE. He has been playing only 3yr. 3 yr
man???
3 years. How is that possible? Because there is no explanation. He
has magic inside nobody figure out. Only explanation is he got the
gifted from divine power.
Let us thanks thank divine to send us this kid so we appreciate the
amazing divine
power.
himme...@verizon.net
He's been playing longer that 3 years because I've been seeing his
videos for 3 years and he was good then. I too like and appreciate
this kids' playing, but to put him above mature artists as the ones I
posted is just a bit silly.
S
himme...@verizon.net
Dear Red Cloud,
I would appreciate a bit of a change of tone from you. You are new
posting here, but are jumping right in with insults and profanity. I
am attempting to educate you to what there is in the world of guitar.
I find this young player very interesting and admirable, but I have a
different view of how he achieved his musical success that comes from
being in the guitar teaching business myself for a long time.
Here is a link to a bio from 2007 in which he says he has been playing
for two years and that he has a classical guitar teacher.
http://eventful.com/performers/sungha-jung-/P0-001-000160581-0
Also, it mentions that he has been practicing three hours a day. He
also describes his childhood experience of watching his father play.
This is the recipe for musical talent, environment, instruction and
lots of practice. Here is a kid with a potential to rise very high,
but with a danger to burn out too soon. He will have to manage the
next ten years of his life very carefully.
Anyway, Red Cloud, I hope you can develop more appreciation of the
guitar world as a whole because your enthusiasm for Sunga Jung shows a
love for guitar and you also might have something to contribute if you
can also develop a more mature way of interacting.
Seth H.
Red Cloud
I think you can call it other better than Sunha since other can play
more complexity
score. But Sungha can able to figure out new score quick and easy.
That's what
I call him "prodigy". He has amazing playing-by-hearing skill. How
he can do that is a mystery. He didn't go through step by step
lesson. He is still a child.
That's beyond skill. That's pure MAGIC!!!!!!!!!!
himme...@verizon.net
It's not magic, it's work!
S
dsi1
> I think you are very jealous man. Hey Asians are actually smarter and
> intelligent
> than white race! Look ASSHOLE. He has been playing only 3yr. 3 yr
> man???
Ha ha. You're gonna fit in just fine here...
Red Cloud
I know his life more. Ok. I heard it he did practice. He used to carry
guitar in
classroom. He played around classmate and in street. He became a
member of
figure-style social club and performed in street. He did all that less
than 1 or 2 yr playing. Now that's what I'm calling him prodigy
child. He is now going in special school for gifted child. I know
where he will head to: Julia Academy of Art and Music in New
Jersey. :
Wollybird
too bad mike's not here. I think he'd have a new buddy
i
Lutemann
Red Clay says, "Look ASSHOLE. He has been playing only 3yr. 3 yr
man??? "
Red, I realize that you are not a very smart man, but try to listen to
what I am saying. This young boy is most likely a prodigy. No one is
saying that he doesn't have talent and no one is saying that they can
play fingerstyle guitar better than this young man, so please don't
attack anyone concerning these two points. It is my belief that he is
wasting his talent with the direction he or his teacher has chosen.
You may attack me on that point if you wish.
Lutemann
wrote:
I like what you said Seth. Good job. I suspect that the kid has
perfect pitch of the type that allows him to quickly learn to play
(and memorize?) anything he hears. He is also gifted with great finger
facility. I would bet, however, that you won't hear from this kid in
ten years. It's the way of the world. I met a kid who couldn't read
music but could play a Bach Lute Suite with good techniqe and tone. He
never had a lesson. I think he works on trucks now; or something.
ktaylor
I have been watching and admiring this kid's growth for several years.
He has his niche. He is a fingerstyle acoustic player and not a
classical player. Simple. He will have a good career playing
fingerstyle. But most fingerstyle players - including classicists like
Chapdelaine - also write and many improvise. I would call him a
prodigy fingerstyle player. And I think he will be a great one. But
when he loses the aura of prodigy in his 20's he's going to have to do
something special and not just copy others. And I think he likely
will.
It is nice to see that fingerstyle is popular in the East
(Singapore?).
Kevin T.
Red Cloud
> On 2/11/2010 8:04 AM, Red Cloud wrote:
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> > Hey he does not understand a word of your chinese-rambling. .
>
> You're mistaken about that. How could a Korean not know about the lunar
> new year? You're silly! :-)
YOu Chink are rude! He is not a your chink race!
Wollybird
You would't consider changing your screen name to mAdATlEEmyUNg-bAk
would you?
dsi1
Holy crap! I thought you were Chinese, nevermind! :-)
dsi1
That would be fun. I rike Red Cloud - he make me raugh. :-)
Red Cloud
NEVERMIND YOU FUCKING CHINK!!!!!!!!
Wollybird
Would you clarify who belongs to the chink race, so I can get my RMGC
racial score sheet square? are they just chinese? or do others
qualify?
Are Chinese to Asians as Poles are to Europeans?
dsi1
You're my hero Red Cloud. :-)
Wollybird
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I don't have the heart to tell him you're of Japaneese desent.
Wollybird
By the way, Red Cloud, if you are looking for work, I hear Ontario
needs cab drivers.
dsi1
> Would you clarify who belongs to the chink race, so I can get my RMGC
> racial score sheet square? are they just chinese? or do others
> qualify?
> Are Chinese to Asians as Poles are to Europeans?
This is a good question. From this outsider's view, the Asians are
almost as much in the dark about each other as we are. As far as racism
and ignorance goes, Nazis and rednecks don't have anything over some
Asians. However, the truth about China is that they're the big dog or
big brother of Asia depending on your point of view, not the Poles of Asia.
Of course, the chip-on-their-shoulders Koreans will view their culture
as the superior one. The Japanese do too, except in their case, this
stems from their deep-seated feelings of inferiority. The Chinese will
also view their culture as the superior one however, I am of the
thinking that this is probably correct since theirs is an ancient and
continuous culture from which all the others sprang. Heck, the
Polynesians may have originated from that vast motherland. My
understanding is that a Chinese person can still read the texts written
a couple of thousand years ago. Most remarkable - if true.
I can't say who would qualify as the Poles of Asia but I do know that
the Japanese have a tradition of viewing the Okinawans as low-class,
hairy pig farmers, i.e., like the Brits have traditionally viewed the
Irish. Ah... waddaya gonna do? :-)
Red Cloud
Chinks are Chink!. No korean, Mongolian, Tibetan, Japanese, Viet,
Thai, Burma, Nepal, Phillphino, Indonesian. Make your list. Of
course, if you happens to be chink. you think they all belonging to
chink race just because chink's selfish imperialistic view is still
going on...
Red Cloud
:)))) what do you call your chink rambling? Stupidity or your chink
in legacy???
John Nguyen
> Chinks are Chink!. No korean, Mongolian, Tibetan, Japanese, Viet,
> Thai, Burma, Nepal, Phillphino, Indonesian. Make your list. Of
> course, if you happens to be chink. you think they all belonging to
> chink race just because chink's selfish imperialistic view is still
> going on...-
Hmm.. You're from Los Angeles. You hate Chinese. You call Vietnamese
"Viet" - no one does that except Vietnamese calling themselves "Viet".
Are you Vietnamese?
Red Cloud
Your mistake, John!
dsi1
>>
>> You're my hero Red Cloud. :-)
>
>
> :)))) what do you call your chink rambling? Stupidity or your chink
> in legacy???
It's obvious from your post that you're a sweet, lovable guy.
Unfortunately, I haven't been able to understand anything you have
posted. Is there anything I can do to help? Thanks!
dsi1
> http://www.fromthetop.org/radio/thisweek
>
> Listen to some of their previous shows. From the Top features many, many,
> many young musicians all of who are as good if not better than Sungha Jung.
>
> I did not pan this young man, by the way, i simply questioned your use of
> the word 'prodigy'.
>
> And no, i don't think he is the best musician on the planet, not yet anyway.
> :-)
Speaking of not the best musician on the planet, here's another one
that's so not the best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYNDDbUIvFY&feature=related
OTOH, I think I'll go kill myself now. :-)
>
> Charlie
>
>
dsi1
Probably Korean. They ain't the nicest people around and have a nasty
streak. I oughta know, my mother-in-law is Korean. :-)
Anyway, even though our high hopes were dashed last year, we'll give it
one more go: have a great new year dammit! :-)
Red Cloud
Why don't you try in chink tongue? Was it your selfish ego or what?
Red Cloud
Your Chink new year :)))
dsi1
I love you too pal! :-)