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wollybyrde

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May 11, 2013, 8:14:22 PM5/11/13
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I can't make up my mind about this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sYgllgF7lc

Fadosolrélamisi

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May 11, 2013, 9:01:08 PM5/11/13
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On Saturday, May 11, 2013 5:14:22 PM UTC-7, wollybyrde wrote:
> I can't make up my mind about this:
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>
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sYgllgF7lc

This is the kind of piece where you start at one tempo and finish at another one without anyone noticing it! I tell you ... virtusi ...

JPD

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May 11, 2013, 9:43:16 PM5/11/13
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On May 11, 5:14 pm, wollybyrde <wollyb...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> I can't make up my mind about this:
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sYgllgF7lc

Not exactly beautiful, is it. Maybe it could be beautiful on the
banjo, I don't know, but it would take, at the least, someone who has
that goal in mind, rather than someone merely demonstrating that it's
possible to knock out the notes in the correct order on the banjo.

Chris Thile, same piece on mandolin:

http://www.guitarist.com/blog/2011/10/prelude-bwv-1006-chris-thile.html

Andrew Schulman

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May 12, 2013, 1:05:50 AM5/12/13
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On May 11, 9:43 pm, JPD <googlegroo...@guitarist.com> wrote:
> On May 11, 5:14 pm, wollybyrde <wollyb...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
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> > I can't make up my mind about this:
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> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sYgllgF7lc
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> Not exactly beautiful, is it...
>
I think the banjo and the mandolin take the back seat to the violin
and the guitar on this one.

Andrew

Murdick

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May 12, 2013, 6:37:05 AM5/12/13
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On Saturday, May 11, 2013 7:14:22 PM UTC-5, wollybyrde wrote:
> I can't make up my mind about this:
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sYgllgF7lc

There is a whole tradition of classical banjo that goes back to the late 19th and early 20th century. It was not written in tab but in standard notation. I've got some of the old books on my computer at school (maybe). There was tons of music written and transcribed for the 5 string banjo. I'm surprised Fleck was not aware of this.

wollybyrde

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May 12, 2013, 7:06:26 AM5/12/13
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nails or finger picks?
steel or gut?

wollybyrde

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May 12, 2013, 7:19:06 AM5/12/13
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On Sunday, May 12, 2013 5:37:05 AM UTC-5, Murdick wrote:
never mind. I found the classical Banjo site. Here is a method book:
http://www.classicbanjo.com/tutors/Agnew/Agnew.pdf
It looks suspiciously like Carcassi

dewach...@gmail.com

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May 12, 2013, 10:10:06 AM5/12/13
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On Sunday, May 12, 2013 5:19:06 AM UTC-6, wollybyrde wrote:
> On Sunday, May 12, 2013 5:37:05 AM UTC-5, Murdick wrote:
>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnYfF7E12dk

Paul Magnussen

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May 12, 2013, 12:20:58 PM5/12/13
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Murdick wrote:

> There is a whole tradition of classical banjo that goes back to the late 19th and early 20th century. It was not written in tab but in standard notation. I've got some of the old books on my computer at school (maybe). There was tons of music written and transcribed for the 5 string banjo. I'm surprised Fleck was not aware of this.

Ah. Just dig out them old BMGs, and learn how great Olly Oakley's tone
was in 1920.

I used to have some of those old recordings on 78 -- still got them
somewhere. Entertaining stuff.

Paul Magnussen

JPD

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May 12, 2013, 3:25:51 PM5/12/13
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlCgHJxX4pY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO9T-EVtyuc

David Raleigh Arnold

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May 12, 2013, 5:02:33 PM5/12/13
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On Sat, 11 May 2013 17:14:22 -0700, wollybyrde wrote:

> I can't make up my mind about this:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sYgllgF7lc

There was a tenor banjo player named (Louis?) Bellson who played
the Ciacona. A tenor is tuned like a viola, so he could
simply substitute a pick for a bow. Bela was doing
something much more difficult, but not getting more
for it.

He should look into the American tuning, which was standard
before the 1880's. It has a different character, and
works very well for sentimental music. Quintuplet tremolo
is dynamite with it. "Bridge over Troubled Water" never
really makes it on classical guitar because the classic is
too sweet, but on banjo it's great in A or E.

American tuning: b g# e a, e' like the so-called "C" tuning
but a minor third lower.

The guitar is a romantic instrument. The banjo is a sentimental
instrument, at least it was. That's why it's so nice to play both.

Regards, daveA



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Murdick

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May 12, 2013, 9:43:11 PM5/12/13
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Rob must not have a job. He's done some pretty interesting thing, however.

thomas

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May 12, 2013, 9:56:59 PM5/12/13
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On Sunday, May 12, 2013 5:02:33 PM UTC-4, daveA wrote:
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> There was a tenor banjo player named (Louis?) Bellson

Louis Bellson was a famous jazz drummer, married to Pearl Bailey.

David Raleigh Arnold

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May 13, 2013, 6:35:10 PM5/13/13
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Oh yeah. CRS...

Albert(?) Bellson. Dave Perry was his nephew. I heard Dave
Perry play the "Aranjuez" many years ago. AFAIK he is
still a first class guitarist. Regards, daveA

David Raleigh Arnold

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May 13, 2013, 6:35:40 PM5/13/13
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On Sun, 12 May 2013 18:56:59 -0700, thomas wrote:

Oh yeah. CRS...

Albert(?) Bellson. Dave Perry was his nephew. I heard Dave
Perry play the "Aranjuez" many years ago. AFAIK he is
still a first class guitarist. Regards, daveA
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