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Whatever happened to 'Vincenzo Macaluso'?

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JOEL BEIDNER

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Jul 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/18/00
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If you know of where or whatever happened to the 10 string
guitarist --'Vincenzo Macaluso'--I would greatly appreciate the update on
his professional affairs-------Thanks!!

GuitarsWeB

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Jul 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/18/00
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Vince works for an auto dealership in Whittier, California. I don't think he
does much playing anymore.
Paul McGuffin

art almeida.

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Wow...I actually have an LP of his which I recently transferred to a
CDR....Sad to hear that he's not playing. There are a lot of talented people
out there....the competition is obviously pretty tough.

Art..............


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GuitarsWeB

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> There are a lot of talented people
>out there....the competition is obviously pretty tough.
>
>Art..............

I don't think the competition was the problem with Vince. Who knows? For one
thing, it's a labor of love. There's sure no great living, moneywise, as a
classical guitarist. Is there? A great tremolo wont pay the electric bill.
Paul

art almeida.

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But that's my point...there's so many talented people that it's hard to make
a living. There's just not that big of a market for classical guitarists
although in my personal opinion it's certainly time for some new blood (as
it were) on the scene. And he had a great "hook" with the ten string guitar.
I never thought that Yepes played it as well as Vince did. He had (has) a
very strong technique - I think he needed to make a second album to really
break through. If you know Vince tell him there's at least one fan out here
who wouldn't mind hearing a new album...but if, on the other hand, he's
making a great living at the car dealership well....I've waited this long, I
can wait a little longer!

Art


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GuitarsWeB

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>But that's my point...there's so many talented people that it's hard to make
>a living. There's just not that big of a market for classical guitarists

It's nothing to do with "talent." You said it,there's no market. And why?
I'll tell you why. It's the same old songs, the Segovia legacy, etc. That's
Parkening's problem. Hell, I met a classical player playing in a Redlands,
California restaurant that wouldn't even play Bach's First Cello Suite.
Because, he only played music wirtten for guitar. Heven for bid he play a pop
arrangement. That wasn't Vince's problem. He did the greatest classical guitar
arrangement ever written of "Yesterday." We've done the same thing to
classical guitar, or we are doing it now, that the "PC" Track and Field
people did the the sport of track in the US. Do we all know what "PC" means?
Many hard core classical,GFA,650mm,Spruce top,Hauser types would never think of
putting a nice pop arrangement in Soundbaord magazine, or a Flamenco piece in
cifra(tab). Back to Track. They wont even run the Mile anymore and they
wonder why it's a dying sport.It's all meter now! And why? Meter's are more in
line with the rest of the world. I say BS! Get my point, as related to the
classical guitar? It's a type of thinking that's out there. I think Vince just
got fed up with the Guitar World. I did for about ten years in the mid 1970s.
Then I came back to it in the mid 80s. BTW, Vince made three LPs maybe four of
ten string guitar.
Paul

Rogluthier

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I believe he made three. I spoke with him a few years ago and he seemed sad
and bitter but resigned to his fate. He was screwed by the people who put out
the recordings. By agreeing to a cut of the profits instead of an up-front
pay-off deal they claimed no money was ever made so he was owed nothing. After
years, it finally ended up in court where he was given the choice of some money
or the masters. As I recall he took the pittance rather than the masters
(which was probably a mistake). It seems like he simply wanted nothing more of
it all.

I urged him to practice up and get out on the festival or guitar society
circuit....there is enough name recognition from the "recordings that never
sold." But he wouldn't hear of it. If anything he was more interested in
jazz. However I think he enjoyed having someone listen to his story and say
they liked the playing anyway.

From talking with him I realized he was a really fine, sweet fellow who got run
around the block by some people in nifty suits.

BTW he likes to be called "Vince." The "Vincenzo" was part of the marketing
campaign.

Yes, it's another one of those musician stories.....


Roger Thurman
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Kent, OH 44240
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David Schramm

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Jul 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/18/00
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There are also the former "big names" who you don't hear about anymore because
they are making 6 figure incomes performing on cruise boats.

DS

"art almeida." wrote:

> But that's my point...there's so many talented people that it's hard to make
> a living. There's just not that big of a market for classical guitarists

chu...@alltel.net

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In article <3974ED06...@juno.com>,

David Schramm <schramm...@juno.com> wrote:
> There are also the former "big names" who you don't hear about anymore
because
> they are making 6 figure incomes performing on cruise boats.
>
> DS
>
It happens in every profession. Especially the cruise boats. I know many
fine actors who work for huge corporations doing conventions etc.
because of the money and the missing of the luck factor. I knew many
young actors who went to NY and did crap and one fellow went out landed
a secondary role in "Les Mis" and the understudy of Chris in "Miss
Saigon" within two years he had a tony. Talented yes, but no more so
than any of the others. But he had the right look/sound at the right
time. The other bunk out after a while or take the cruise route. No
genre is immune.

Karen


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Zorrosblade

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I was a student of Vince's for 7 years in the 70's when he used to teach
at a guitar studio in Inglewood California along with a fellow at the time
by the name of 'Howard Heitmier'. Studying with Vince was one of the
greatest long term activities I've ever done in my entire life. Vince's
approach to teaching classical guitar was as close to what my feeble
imagination would think that a true 19th century disciplinarian in the arts
would be. I remember Vince's sense of humor in general to being voracious
and highly charismatic, where his sense of right and wrong with regards to
the artists true intent of performance and purpose to being almost Wagnerian
in scope,, at least it was to me,, I admired him to no end for those
quality's...I can honestly say that he changed my life forever in how I view
art; That, being not so much as a soulful, pleasant experience whether one's
a player or participant in a performance, but more as a life or death
struggle in making the very root or metaphysical source point of
aesthetic intent come to life in a performance. Vince's approach in
philosophy of play was a 'take no prisoners----aesthetic substance or
nothing!' approach. I remember that he could become quite volcanic on his
philosophy of music which in my young 20's at the time sometimes seemed
scary---but I knew deep down that what he was saying and teaching had real
substance. I realize that now even more so in my 40's...I was in shock when
I heard from the first reply that Vince works at a car dealership in
Whittier. But, after 38 years of playing the guitar myself, I myself have
nothing to commercially show for it at all. So why should Vince working at a
Car dealership be such a surprise to me. Maybe that should be 'standard
operating procedure' these days for most players of aesthetic worth. Vince's
2nd album which was his 'French' music album; Poulaunc,,Satie,, was my
favorite one of his 4 records. The transcriptions, which were all his, were
the most groundbreaking of anything I had or have ever heard for the
classical guitar. To me, it achieved the contrapuntal capacity goal of the
instrument while keeping it's aesthetic grace and integrity.. The last album
he gave me many years ago was something he did in collaboration with a
flautist. These albums were recorded on the 'Klavier' label. I believe
Klavier put together a compilation of all his recordings onto one CD
called---'10 string magic' or some such hype. I think you can still get
it---I don't know for sure...If any of you guys ever see Vince---I'd
appreciate it if you could remember to say to him that,, 'Rocky' say's Hi
and wishes him the very best in all things and endeavors. Thanks for reading
some poetic nonsense....... zorro...@earthlink.net

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> There are also the former "big names" who you don't hear about anymore
because
> they are making 6 figure incomes performing on cruise boats.
>
> DS
>

GuitarsWeB

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> I was a student of Vince's for 7 years in the 70's when he used to teach
>at a guitar studio in Inglewood California along with a fellow at the time
>by the name of 'Howard Heitmier'. Studying with Vince was one of the
>greatest long term activities I've ever done in my entire life

Yep! Many of us still remember those days. Oribe's guitar studio,1120 No.
LaBrea, Inglewood, California. I even remenber the phone number 672-6272 it
was 213 area code then. So, you know that goes way back. Howard Heitmeyer
still teaches and arranges. I have two of Vince arrangements, Bach's First
Cell Suite, it's TOPS!! "Yesterday." It's out of this world, done in E-flat
minor with a d-g-d-g-b-e-tunning. This last I heard was Jack McBroom had an
Oribe ten-string and was trying to talk Vince into some lesson. He had no
luck. Said he only had two students left and wasn't taking any more. That was
about two years ago.
Paul

Thomas F Brown

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In article <3974ED06...@juno.com>,
David Schramm <schramm...@juno.com> wrote:
>There are also the former "big names" who you don't hear about anymore because
>they are making 6 figure incomes performing on cruise boats.

Six figures on a cruise ship? In Turkish lira maybe.


kenl...@my-deja.com

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Art, you're wrong ... there are now at least TWO fans!

art almeida.

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What the hell, let's jump start his career again. Who's got any LP's out
there. I'm willing to make the CDR's. Any PR/Marketing/Journalists out
there. We got a great story here. "Internet Newsgroup Revives Artists
Career!"

Art..........


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David Schramm

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Jul 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/19/00
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Actually it is in American dollars.

DS

Mark Westling

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Jul 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/19/00
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Was/Is his arrangement of "Yesterday" ever published? Is it available
anywhere?

Regards,

Mark Westling


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Mark Westling

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I heard the Romeros were doing cruise ship work a few years ago. Is this
what you're referring to?

Regards,

Mark


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GuitarsWeB

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never published. I think he did it in a few concerts as an encore. You can
email me.

Thomas F Brown

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Jul 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/21/00
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Who are these guys and what line do they play on?
I've done cruise ships, and they paid nothing remotely
close to that.


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