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Learnwell

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Oct 20, 2009, 7:36:47 PM10/20/09
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In recent threads some have been very up front about what my students
should not be playing, fair enough. Now, how about suggesting what
they should be playing?

I can't believe I have not asked about this before. My exposure to
guitar ensemble music has been from my performing experience in
college and by buying tons of music and going through it. While I may
have performed or perused your suggestion, why not make it?

From easy to feindishly difficult, what do you like to hear, what do
you like to teach? The more the better.

mata...@gmail.com

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Oct 20, 2009, 8:37:40 PM10/20/09
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The difficulty of answering this question is the same as answering
some individual who asks me in private what he should be playing, when
I have no idea what his playing level is. Of course, I would first of
all recommend those things in the genre that I ahead already
published.

http://www.editionsorphee.com/catalog.html#trios

I think your kids could pull of the Lhoyer and the Au easily. The rest
of it requires some serious chops and musicianship. Besides that, I
think you ought to look at Gilbert Biberian's music for guitar
quartet. I forget who published it, but I am sure Gilbert would be
more than happy to assist you here. There is some stuff by Stephen
Dodgson that is very good.

Just yesterday, I received a proposal from an old friend for a series
of pieces for guitar trio that are in the intermediate level range.
Good pieces all, but considering the lackluster sales of those pieces
that I published, I doubt I will be investing in these.

One more thought: many years ago I got from the Library of Congress
several hundred library cards describing their holdings of guitar
quartets manuscripts by American composers. I never saw the music
itself, but one never knows. There might be good stuff in there.

MO.

Learnwell

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Oct 20, 2009, 9:30:58 PM10/20/09
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Excellent! Many thanks. I already own some of that stuff, but will be
ordering more in the next couple of days. I will likely end up owning
your entire ensemble catalog. The guitar orchestra thing is
particularly interesting and I know I'll program the Lhoyer at some
point. You just made some sales, sir.

> Just yesterday, I received a proposal from an old friend for a series
> of pieces for guitar trio that are in the intermediate level range.
> Good pieces all, but considering the lackluster sales of those pieces
> that I published, I doubt I will be investing in these.

Imagine what it would mean to publishers if there were as many high
school guitar programs as there are band programs.

I have taken your other suggestions as well and will be acting on
them. Thanks again.

mata...@gmail.com

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Oct 20, 2009, 9:46:40 PM10/20/09
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On Oct 20, 9:30 pm, Learnwell <learnwel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
> > Just yesterday, I received a proposal from an old friend for a series
> > of pieces for guitar trio that are in the intermediate level range.
> > Good pieces all, but considering the lackluster sales of those pieces
> > that I published, I doubt I will be investing in these.
>
> > One more thought: many years ago I got from the Library of Congress
> > several hundred library cards describing their holdings of guitar
> > quartets manuscripts by American composers. I never saw the music
> > itself, but one never knows. There might be good stuff in there.
>
> > MO.
>
> Excellent! Many thanks. I already own some of that stuff, but will be
> ordering more in the next couple of days. I will likely end up owning
> your entire ensemble catalog. The guitar orchestra thing is
> particularly interesting and I know I'll program the Lhoyer at some
> point. You just made some sales, sir.

Thanks in advance. I would particularly recommend the Radvilovich.
Yes , a trio, not a quartet, but with a narrator. If one of your guys
can do the narration, this is a great piece to play in front of school
audiences, from kindergarten and up. David Grimes used to have it with
his group, and they made a lot of concerts for school kids in their
areas. he even made a video of this, but I do not see it on YouTube.
Ask him about it.

> Imagine what it would mean to publishers if there were as many high
> school guitar programs as there are band programs.

of course, but the sad fact is that it is not so,

MO.

Learnwell

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Oct 20, 2009, 9:52:28 PM10/20/09
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> > Imagine what it would mean to publishers if there were as many high
> > school guitar programs as there are band programs.
>
> of course, but the sad fact is that it is not so,


Well, we are either part of the solution, or not. . .

Do you know what the impetus for band programs was just over 100 years
ago?

mata...@gmail.com

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Oct 20, 2009, 10:17:52 PM10/20/09
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On Oct 20, 9:52 pm, Learnwell <learnwel...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Do you know what the impetus for band programs was just over 100 years
> ago?

Football.

MO.

Learnwell

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Oct 20, 2009, 10:32:50 PM10/20/09
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No, that came later. It was instrument makers who saw the potential
for their industry.

The football thing came later. It is what a colleague of mine calls
'the deal with the devil', when administrators noticed that a band
could whip up the fans the money started flowing. Of course this led
to an inordinate amount of time working on marching et al.

Do you know what the impetus for choir was?

himme...@verizon.net

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Oct 21, 2009, 12:06:53 AM10/21/09
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On Oct 20, 7:36 pm, Learnwell <learnwel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Telemann Quartet in D major edited by E. Barriero
Dancas Populares Brasilieras by Celso Machado
Diff'rent Dances by Derek Hasted
Chromatique and Trio in D by Robert Mayeur
Cuban Landscape with Rain by Leo Brouwer
Eight Waltzes for Four Guitars by Gilbert Biberian
Three Pieces for Three Guitars by John Duarte
Danserye by Tielman Susato edited by P. van der Staak (sp.)
Rondo for 3 guitars by Paul Hindemith (short but sweet)

Just a few off the top of my head!

Seth

Richard White

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Oct 21, 2009, 12:53:00 AM10/21/09
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. . . http://www.whitcopress.com/guitar.html

There are some originals piano rags arranged for three guitars at the
above link. Let me know if there's any interest. I think your kids are
great.

Richard White

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tom

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Oct 21, 2009, 11:08:37 AM10/21/09
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> From easy to feindishly difficult, what do you like to hear, what do
> you like to teach? The more the better.

I don't do "feindishly" but here is what I like to do:
http://www.youtube.com/user/bookerguitarensemble

Regards,

Thomas

Stanley Yates

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Oct 21, 2009, 9:22:09 AM10/21/09
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Richard, thanks for the link to your music. Very good!
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ktaylor

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Oct 21, 2009, 10:06:10 PM10/21/09
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Greg,

The Childbloom Company commissioned the "Chasing Dragons" work by
Darin Au that Matanya has published and is a very effective tune at
easy to medium technical difficulty (though technical difficulty and
ensemble difficulty are two different things). It also has the "cool"
factor that your students (and audiences) will like. It was premiered
at the first programmed concert by young people at 2000 GFA festival.

We have also just completed the first year of a Middle-school
classroom integrated curriculum (technique/literacy/interpretation)
based around classical guitar ensemble. Before we make it available we
are using it with a public school at this time and working out the
kinks. Thus far there are not many. It has many ensemble pieces in it.
It should be available in June of 2010.

I have much music available for guitar ensemble. If you (or others)
are looking for appealing works at various levels email me and I will
send you a price list for tunes we have that are available to the
general public.

Kevin Taylor, Pres.
The Childbloom Co.
child...@aol.com

mata...@gmail.com

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Oct 21, 2009, 10:14:22 PM10/21/09
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Well, that an easy one. Church music. But not so fast. In many
indigenous cultures people just get together and sing. I some, like in
Russian villages for example, they developed what is known as folk
polyphony, a genre that many composers capitalized on. Stravinsky, for
example.

MO.

Richard White

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Oct 21, 2009, 10:40:38 PM10/21/09
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In article <n_HDm.41233$4E.3...@newsfe08.iad>,
"Stanley Yates" <in...@StanleyYates.com> wrote:

. . . and thank you, Stanley, for your kind words!

Best,

Learnwell

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Oct 21, 2009, 10:55:30 PM10/21/09
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> Well, that an easy one. Church music. But not so fast. In many
> indigenous cultures people just get together and sing. I some, like in
> Russian villages for example, they developed what is known as folk
> polyphony, a genre that many composers capitalized on. Stravinsky, for
> example.

I probably should have qualified my question with, "in the American
school system." Right on you are.

Learnwell

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Oct 21, 2009, 11:01:34 PM10/21/09
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On Oct 20, 9:06 pm, "himmelh...@verizon.net" <himmelh...@verizon.net>
wrote:

Excellent, Seth, thank you. I already own about half of those, and
have programmed several. I've been reticent to program the Hindemith,
but on your advice I'm going to try it.

it is nice to see someone else who enjoys Mayeur's music. I recommend
it highly to high school and intermediate (whatever that means)
college groups. Here is a group giving a pretty good rendition of
Chromatique;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ-OmB9kgTw

He writes interesting music, I recommend it highly and have other
pieces of his that I will program in the future. We recorded the Trio
in D on a CD. I like his stuff.

Thank you again for your suggestions.

Learnwell

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Oct 21, 2009, 11:02:18 PM10/21/09
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On Oct 20, 9:53 pm, Richard White <whitcopr...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article
> <777deaf4-d037-4759-9f76-acd542f95...@m3g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,

>
>  Learnwell <learnwel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In recent threads some have been very up front about what my students
> > should not be playing, fair enough. Now, how about suggesting what
> > they should be playing?
>
> > I can't believe I have not asked about this before. My exposure to
> > guitar ensemble music has been from my performing experience in
> > college and by buying tons of music and going through it. While I may
> > have performed or perused your suggestion, why not make it?
>
> > From easy to feindishly difficult, what do you like to hear, what do
> > you like to teach? The more the better.
>
> . . .http://www.whitcopress.com/guitar.html

>
> There are some originals piano rags arranged for three guitars at the
> above link. Let me know if there's any interest. I think your kids are
> great.
>
> Richard White
>
> --http://www.whitcopress.comhttp://www.youtube.com/whitcopresshttp://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-White/1643924446http://community.ascap.com/richard_whitehttp://www.whitcopress.com/rwpaypalpdf.html

Richard, thanks for the kind words. I meant to look into your music
some time ago and don't know how I got distracted. It will be done
very soon. Thanks.

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Learnwell

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Oct 21, 2009, 11:03:59 PM10/21/09
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> childbl...@aol.com

Thanks, as always, Kevin. The email is on the way.

Learnwell

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Oct 21, 2009, 11:25:03 PM10/21/09
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Thanks for sharing this! I am so intrigued by your program. May I
contact you by email to learn more about it? I've read your webpage
and school webpage. It is so great to see what you are doing

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