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Bach Cello Suites on Classical Guitar?

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Mario Lang

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Sep 28, 2006, 4:47:06 AM9/28/06
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Hola!

Can anyone recommend a recording of the cello suites on
classical guitar? I really like Nigel North's Bach on the Lute Vol.3
which features the cello suites on Lute. But I'd really like
to have a recording on CG...
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CYa,
Mario

Reza Ganjavi (www.rezamusic.com)

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Sep 28, 2006, 5:30:31 AM9/28/06
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Stanley Yates has a wonderful record - and a book of transcription.

http://www.stanleyyates.com/recordings/bach.html

Regards
Reza Ganjavi
www.rezamusic.com

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Sep 28, 2006, 9:29:56 AM9/28/06
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Mario Lang wrote:

> Can anyone recommend a recording of the cello suites on
> classical guitar?

I only know of two complete guitar recordings of the cello suites:

J.S.Bach: The Complete Suites for Solo Cello
Suites for Solo Cello BWV1007-12
CROWN CRCC-8003&4 (2CDs)
Kazuhito Yamashita

I've not heard it, but I've heard Yamashita's recording of the violin
sonatas & partitas. Based on that, I wouldn't buy his cello suites
recording. But if you're not bothered by hard tone and allegros played
as prestos, then you might like it.

J. S. Bach Suites para violoncello BWV 1007-9
Opera tres CD1041
J. S. Bach Suites para violoncello BWV 1010-12
Opera tres CD1043
Marcos Diaz

Not great, and the transcriptions occasionally strike me as a bit
odd, but clean and honest performances.

Neither are great performances of the complete cello suites.
There are, however, a few guitarists today who, if they ever
get around to it, could do a great recording. One can only hope.
In the meantime, I'll stick with my Janos Starker recording.

Tom Poore
Cleveland Heights, OH
USA

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Sep 28, 2006, 1:11:26 PM9/28/06
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Reza Ganjavi (www.rezamusic.com) wrote:
> Stanley Yates has a wonderful record - and a book of transcription.
>
> http://www.stanleyyates.com/recordings/bach.html


yep i have them in stock and will ship anywhere free in the USA or
Canada. .

.on book ordes over $100.00

Cheers
Ed

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thomas

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Sep 28, 2006, 2:20:34 PM9/28/06
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You don't like Stanley Yates's performance? I like it.

Gary Kerr

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Sep 28, 2006, 3:00:22 PM9/28/06
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A third:
Andreas von Wangenheim
http://tinyurl.com/jj83u

Tashi

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Sep 28, 2006, 3:39:45 PM9/28/06
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> Neither are great performances of the complete cello suites.
> There are, however, a few guitarists today who, if they ever
> get around to it, could do a great recording. One can only hope.
> In the meantime, I'll stick with my Janos Starker recording.
>
> Tom Poore
> Cleveland Heights, OH
> USA

I've been working up the 1st cello suite on 13 strings.. it sounds
Divine! If I were only young and naive again, I'd record them all.

If I remember correctly didn't John Williams record all the cello
suites? I wish they would re issue those early recordings again.
MT

Jackson K. Eskew

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Sep 28, 2006, 7:06:41 PM9/28/06
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thomas wrote:


> You don't like Stanley Yates's performance? I like it.

The one thing I don't like about the Yates version is the Prelude 1
transcribed in C, because this way you don't get the slurs on the high
notes.

wollybird

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Sep 28, 2006, 9:10:03 PM9/28/06
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There is a way to put them in, grasshopper

wollybird

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Sep 28, 2006, 9:15:07 PM9/28/06
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Yates is good, but he only put out 1 through 3. There are a number of
good complete recordings of the suites done on cello.

JorgeM

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Sep 29, 2006, 12:19:59 AM9/29/06
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In article <1159472385.5...@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,

"Tashi" <michae...@starband.net> wrote:
>
> I've been working up the 1st cello suite on 13 strings.. it sounds
> Divine! If I were only young and naive again, I'd record them all.
>
> If I remember correctly didn't John Williams record all the cello
> suites? I wish they would reissue those early recordings again.

Wiliams only recorded Suites 1 and 3 in John Duarte's arr.

Jorge Caballero, who was praised recently by someone on this NG for his
electrifying performance of Dvorak's New World Symphony (a recording of
which is included in the latest issue of The Guitar Review) has recorded
Cello Suites 2,4, and 6 on the Musical Heritage Society Label - I'm not
sure if it's still available but it's great playing. Here's a review of
Jorge's debut concert after winning the Naumburg competition in 2000
which included a performance of Cello Suite #6-

"Brave Guitarist Takes Chances"

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE0D7113BF932A25751C0A9
6F958260

I love Yamashita's performance of the Prelude from Cello Suite #6 - it's
very beautifully played. Someone commented that they wouldn't buy
Yamashita's Cello Suites recording after hearing his performances of the
Violin Sonatas and Partitas - I disagree, no need to discount different
recording(s) of an artist on the basis of another recording one didn't
like, each one is different - The Cello Suite played by Yamashita are
quite beautiful and worth purchasing.

Ben Verdery recorded the 6th Cello suite magnificently too, forget which
label but it's worth finding.

Tashi

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Sep 29, 2006, 12:48:24 AM9/29/06
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You mean the high strings, not the high notes.

I think it sounds to cliche in D. I heard a friend of mine with an 8
string guitar play it in G the original key and it sounded more like a
cello in the lower range. It was the best I had ever heard it
played........ I've not heard Stanley Yates recording however. I
wonder why Stanley did it in C.
MT

Tashi

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Sep 29, 2006, 1:01:03 AM9/29/06
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I heard Anner Bylsma, play all 6 suites in concert. After that I
realized how rhythmic they were, most guitarists don't emphasize this
aspect very well. My son is a good cello player. When I play the 1st
cello suite on guitar, he just laughs at me and rolls his eyes.
MT

Stanley Yates

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Sep 29, 2006, 1:05:17 AM9/29/06
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"Tashi" <michae...@starband.net> wrote in message
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> I think it sounds to cliche in D. I heard a friend of mine with an 8
> string guitar play it in G the original key and it sounded more like a
> cello in the lower range. It was the best I had ever heard it
> played........ I've not heard Stanley Yates recording however. I
> wonder why Stanley did it in C.
> MT

Hey Michael,

I played in C for you when we first met at your workshop in Santa Fe all
those years ago. Remember that...

SY


Stanley Yates

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Sep 29, 2006, 1:06:47 AM9/29/06
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"JorgeM" <sgy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Jorge Caballero, who was praised recently by someone on this NG for his
> electrifying performance of Dvorak's New World Symphony (a recording of
> which is included in the latest issue of The Guitar Review) has recorded
> Cello Suites 2,4, and 6 on the Musical Heritage Society Label - I'm not
> sure if it's still available but it's great playing. Here's a review of
> Jorge's debut concert after winning the Naumburg competition in 2000
> which included a performance of Cello Suite #6-
it's worth finding.

Jorge's Bach arrangements are excellent. Well worth a listen.

SY


Stanley Yates

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Sep 29, 2006, 1:08:08 AM9/29/06
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"wollybird" <woll...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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> Yates is good, but he only put out 1 through 3. There are a number of
> good complete recordings of the suites done on cello.
>

Unfortunately, I also get bored very quickly.

SY


Tashi

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Sep 29, 2006, 1:44:38 AM9/29/06
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I remember it well, but at the time I wasn't conscious of the key,
but it sounded great! After that I bought your edition of the cello
suites. When are you coming back to Santa Fe? Why did you choose C?
because of the lower register? I like it lower than D. I have to play
it in E flat major.
MT

Tashi

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Sep 29, 2006, 5:29:13 PM9/29/06
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In support of our beloved instrument, I must report that a friend of
mine was playing a Bach festival in Calif. last year, in which he
played the 1st cello suite. A female cellist approached him after the
performance and told him she prefers hearing it on guitar.
MT

Tashi

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Sep 29, 2006, 5:31:55 PM9/29/06
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Bridge Kaldro Music-Bridge Classical guitars wrote:
> Reza Ganjavi (www.rezamusic.com) wrote:
> > Stanley Yates has a wonderful record - and a book of transcription.
> >
> > http://www.stanleyyates.com/recordings/bach.html
>
>
> yep i have them in stock and will ship anywhere free in the USA or
> Canada. .
>
> .on book ordes over $100.00
>
>
>
> Cheers
> Ed

Ed, I went to your site, ( congratulations BTW ). I was wondering
about the Violin sonatas and Partitas, are they edited arrangements
for guitar or the original violin scores?
MT

Steven Bornfeld

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Sep 29, 2006, 6:04:18 PM9/29/06
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On the guitar list that's an endorsement; on the cello list it would be
a troll.

Steve

Stanley Yates

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Sep 29, 2006, 10:13:02 PM9/29/06
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"Tashi" <michae...@starband.net> wrote in message
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I've haeard that many times as well over the years.

SY


Stanley Yates

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Sep 29, 2006, 10:16:38 PM9/29/06
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"Tashi" <michae...@starband.net> wrote in message
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> I remember it well, but at the time I wasn't conscious of the key,
> but it sounded great! After that I bought your edition of the cello
> suites. When are you coming back to Santa Fe? Why did you choose C?
> because of the lower register? I like it lower than D. I have to play
> it in E flat major.
> MT

I chose C because I think that key works best for the suite as a whole and
for the cycle as a whole. Eb-major! The 4th suite is originally in Eb major,
but I spelled oput my rationale for key choice in the edition (although I
didn't mention that for us guitarists, flats don't exist!). I'd like to
visit NM again sometime, but for various reasons I'm not travelling at the
moment.

SY


Stanley Yates

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Sep 29, 2006, 10:17:44 PM9/29/06
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"Steven Bornfeld" <dentalt...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>> In support of our beloved instrument, I must report that a friend of
>> mine was playing a Bach festival in Calif. last year, in which he
>> played the 1st cello suite. A female cellist approached him after the
>> performance and told him she prefers hearing it on guitar.
>> MT
>>
>
>
> On the guitar list that's an endorsement; on the cello list it would be a
> troll.
>
> Steve

I probably shouldn't say this, but I don't think the average cellist has the
slightest clue about how to play this music.

SY


Steven Bornfeld

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Sep 29, 2006, 10:23:40 PM9/29/06
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Damn--that's a good one! ;-)

Steve

Bridge Kaldro Music-Bridge Classical guitars

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Sep 29, 2006, 11:26:17 PM9/29/06
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Tashi wrote:
>
> Ed, I went to your site, ( congratulations BTW ). I was wondering
> about the Violin sonatas and Partitas, are they edited arrangements
> for guitar or the original violin scores?
> MT

The Violin scores are original scores


Thank you MT . . the site is okay but having a store is sooo real.
.everything on our site is in the store or at least 95 percent ..
sometimes I sell things and I forget to re order.

I enjoy working in our new store. . about 12 hours a day ...


Cheers
Ed Bridge

Tashi

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Oct 2, 2006, 10:21:40 PM10/2/06
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Cellist's seem to like the romantic Rep. that pays well. My son's
cello teacher told me at one of his lessons... " If I hear one more
baroque gavotte I'll scream ". She defianatly wasn't into Bach.
MT

Mario Lang

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Oct 25, 2006, 9:40:48 AM10/25/06
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Gary Kerr <g...@gdk.com> writes:

Thanks for this hint, I amanged to buy the Andreas von Wangenheim recording,
and I like it! I'd prefer the runs in the first cello suite prelude
to be more straight, but hey, you cant have everything!

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Mario Lang

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