OT: Alternatives to the Beatles
Tommy Grand
The Beatles have been ruined for me (I won't go into details). What
other musical acts have an equally rewarding oeuvre?
Thanks in advance.
Andrew Schulman
Andrew
Tommy Grand
> Are you including all styles and periods?
Chances are that nobody here can enlighten me about classical music.
Feel free to try. I seek information about other styles, especially
American singer-songwriters.
la...@deack.net
>
> Chances are that nobody here can enlighten me about classical music.
Do you need to be enlightened?
> Feel free to try.
Ever try playing the cello underwater?
> I seek information about other styles, especially American singer-songwriters.
Joni Mitchell
Tommy Grand
> Ever try playing the cello underwater?
No, but I did see Yo Yo Ma play 3 of the suites a few months back, and
I had seats in the second row. Can you top that one?
> > I seek information about other styles, especially American singer-songwriters.
>
> Joni Mitchell
Thank you, but I find her singing mannerisms hard to take. I have
enjoyed some of her songs in cover versions. Any others?
la...@deack.net
> On May 10, 5:05 pm, la...@deack.net wrote:
>
> > Ever try playing the cello underwater?
>
> No, but I did see Yo Yo Ma play 3 of the suites a few months back, and
> I had seats in the second row. Can you top that one?
Is music a contest to you?
> Thank you, but I find her singing mannerisms hard to take.
Mannerisms? Like what?
> I have enjoyed some of her songs in cover versions.
Like what?
> Any others?
Like what? Seems like you already know the answers to your own
questions. Seems like you always know the answers to your own
questions. That's why I suggested the "American" folks singer/song
writer Joni Mitchell. Maybe you need to question your own answers a
little more. I suggest this to you, for free.
Tommy Grand
> > Thank you, but I find her singing mannerisms hard to take.
>
> Mannerisms? Like what?
Yea, I can't really put my finger on it. But I always feel like she's
yodeling or something. Anyway maybe I haven't given her a fair
shake. I'll try again.
> > I have enjoyed some of her songs in cover versions.
>
> Like what?
'River' and 'Big Yellow Taxi' I guess. Then I went and checked out
her recordings and didn't like them. In addition to the yodeling
problem, the vocal track sounds like someone turned the treble down
and the bass way up.
> Maybe you need to question your own answers a
> little more. I suggest this to you, for free.
Thanks.
Tashi
Richard Jernigan
"Chances are that nobody here can enlighten me about classical music.
"
For once, we agree. And your area of un-enlightenability extends far
beyond classical music.
RNJ
Andrew Schulman
not so well know but excellent: Ferde Grofé.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferde_Grofé
Andrew
Tashi
I used to hang with Joni Mitchell back in the mid 70's...... when she
would visit Santa Fe.
MT
Alain Reiher
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Mannerisms? Like what?
Like what?
> Any others?
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WoooWo
Joni Mitchell, CC (born Roberta Joan Anderson on November 7, 1943) is a
Canadian musician, songwriter, and painter.[1]
She might, like so many other Canadian artist, have taken the "American"
Citizenship for capitalistic conveniences but ... originally ... she is
ours!
Alain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crfpN3n8lR0
Call him a Franco-American if you whish ... nonetheless despite his ugly
voice, he is one of the greatest exemple of the poetic insightful heart of
the Franco-American genius!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4n7wfo1C-8
Another Canadian band you might have heard of ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcardRvYEkw
And ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_xvESvZF5s
And the new ...and she's American!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtJ97OHYZT4&feature=related
And from the head phone generation ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb655sAoAac&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=087pjPX3z_8
And ... on CG topic ...
darwi...@yahoo.ca
My wife and I have recently been revisiting music of our youth (mid
80s) and the music of The Smiths is as original, clever, and
emotionally engaging as when we first heard it . . . and Johnny Marr
is a great guitarist.
fol...@yahoo.com
la...@deack.net
Not exactly American but... Why no Zappa.... on Mother's day?
fol...@yahoo.com
> On May 11, 6:18 am, "foli...@yahoo.com" <foli...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > I suggest Gentle Giant:
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHLgYdBSrH4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSujPsDn42c
(somehow perfect for this ng)
jeff carter
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hear, hear, Mark --I was a huge GG fan back in the day! Thanks for the
video links. I followed those and found a couple of others isolating
the bass of Ray Shulman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB9r3vjDJXY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA0hhnvssTo&feature=related
--Jeff
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://www.youtube.com/jeffretrac
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/4/jeffcarter_music.htm
la...@deack.net
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA0hhnvssTo&feature=related
>
> --Jeff
So what does his T-shirt say? :-)
jeff carter
That's funny, I was trying to make it out during the video, too. You
can see it better right at the end:
I have no job
I have no car
I have no money
But I'm in a band
la...@deack.net
>
> That's funny, I was trying to make it out during the video, too. You
> can see it better right at the end:
>
> I have no job
> I have no car
> I have no money
> But I'm in a band
>
> --Jeff
>
I saw that as he leaned in at the end. Funny (recursive) how that
slogan is so commercial. Any idea where it came from? Nice videos of
the bass parts, BTW.
Steve Perry
<712b1ce8-d54c-42de...@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
Tommy Grand <howar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Friends,
>
Q: The Beatles have been ruined for me (I won't go into details). What
> other musical acts have an equally rewarding oeuvre?
A: Nobody.
Lots of other rock groups, some of them brilliant, but "equally
rewarding" is way too broad a question. You need to break it down.
--
Steve
Andrew Schulman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Shulman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Shulman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Shulman
Andrew Schulman
Learnwell
Pink Floyd late 60's (after Barrett) to The Wall. Denying yourself the
Beatles (The Beethoven of rock and roll) is like denying yourself the
sun.
jeff carter
I guess it's just a natural extension of all the guitarist/bassist/
drummer jokes.
I found this animation set to an early GG tune:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6nQlrGvzYM&feature=related
JMF
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More than once, I have heard people say that the Beach Boys (=Brian Wilson)
could be put up against the Beatles as the best rock band of all time. Never
quite understood that claim, although as I said, I've heard it more than
once from independent quarters. Musically speaking, I can see their point a
bit more - lyrically speaking, it's hard to imagine comparing "Surfin' USA"
with "Yesterday" ;-)
John
Andrew Schulman
> More than once, I have heard people say that the Beach Boys (=Brian Wilson)
> could be put up against the Beatles as the best rock band of all time. Never
> quite understood that claim, although as I said, I've heard it more than
> once from independent quarters. Musically speaking, I can see their point a
> bit more - lyrically speaking, it's hard to imagine comparing "Surfin' USA"
> with "Yesterday" ;-)
>
>
grew up in the '40's and '50's and listened, and absorbed by osmosis,
a great deal of classical music and the high end of popular music -
Gershwin, Kern, etc.
Especially true of the Brits as classical music was most of what they
heard on the BBC.
This is not my "theory". There are various interviews with the
Beatles (see the intro to Mark Lewisohn's "The Beatles Recording
Sessions") and others about this.
So, in their inner music ear they absorbed great stuff. Compare to
today.
Andrew
JMF
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Andrew
* ... and once again, refer to "The Rest Is Noise" (which I'm reading right
now) and the discussions of what the Beatles and others were doing at that
time, which confirm what you've said here. - John
Andrew Schulman
> * ... and once again, refer to "The Rest Is Noise" (which I'm reading right
> now) and the discussions of what the Beatles and others were doing at that
> time, which confirm what you've said here. - John
>
>
Andrew
JMF
> Andrew
It really is quite a remarkable book. And it has generated all kinds of
reviews - including this recent one:
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/the_tls/article3848743.ece
Indeed, as the review says, it is unsurpassed for its discussion of music
during the great totalitarian regimes (Nazi and Soviet).
I'm still trying to decide whether I like his style of describing the music
itself. He has had to grapple with the problem of how to do that like lots
of other authors (e.g. Harold Schonberg) and has come down on the side of
not using notation, etc. He does it with very skillful prose, and it works
pretty well for me, but sometimes, well, if you don't know the music, I
wonder how well it works ... but I'd still say he does it as well as anybody
is going to do it.
... and how about that great game of tennis Arnold Schoenberg played? ;-)
and other such little things one learns in the book.
Yes, buy it for sure.
John
la...@deack.net
> "Andrew Schulman" <abaca...@panix.com> wrote in message
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> > * ... and once again, refer to "The Rest Is Noise" (which I'm reading
>
>
> John
Thanks guys for the addition to the RMCG book list. Looks like another
good one.
Andrew Schulman
> Thanks guys for the addition to the RMCG book list. Looks like another
> good one.
>
>
recommendation.
I am also down to my final two of the "Maigret" detective series by
Georges Simenon. 84 books! He's the master of the genre. And one
actually has a suspect that plays the guitar.
Andrew
JMF
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To be honest, it had already gone through the RMCG list once before, and
rather recently (although after I started reading it). I remember they were
lamenting the fact that there wasn't much on guitar composers, just a little
bit on Villa-Lobos (that's true, although since he mentions Britten and
Berio you could probably make a case that there's a little more than that).
I simply bought and started reading it because the New York Times mentioned
it a LOT of times and finally put it on its 10-best list for 2007, so I said
"Well heck I can take a hint" and got it.
John
pmfan57
> Friends,
>
> The Beatles have been ruined for me (I won't go into details). What
> other musical acts have an equally rewarding oeuvre?
>
> Thanks in advance.
In rock the Beatles aren't going to be topped quality wise in my op.
Capitol-era Sinatra is pretty amazing.