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Regondi's "Reverie" Nocturne Op.19-Was Nitsuga Influenced? ( New Dale Kavanagh CD)

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GuitarPoet

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Jul 19, 2002, 11:59:09 PM7/19/02
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Good Evening Folks, I just bought guitarist Dale Kavanagh's new CD on
the Hanssler Classic label (CD 98.400) entitled Reverie after Giulo
Regondi's Reverie Nocturne Op.19 and I must say, this is truly an
incredible performance and recording on par with David Russell's
intertpretaton on the GHA label if a bit more impassioned and strong.
Her tremolo ranges from the light fluttering of a seagull to the
intensity of a hummingbird as the music rises and falls in its Bel
Canto-Chopinesque lyricism. While listening to the piece I couldn't
help but thinking that our best loved Paraguayan guitar
composer/player/genius Nitsuga Barrios Mangore must have heard this
piece. I would venture to say that his famous Un Sueno En la Floresta
is modeled directly on this piece, with an intro, tremolo section ,
middle section and then closing tremolo. The harmonies are so similar,
I mean compare the middle section of Floresta and his "Confession"
which comes right out of Regondi's middle section to the Nocturne. The
"Sueno En La Floresta" was written I believe in 1918, and is supposed
to be a revolutionary piece but after listening to the Reverie I can
only say that it has a clear precedent. So is it possible that Barrios
was aware of Regondi's work? The influence seems obvious to me. I even
see similarities between the Reverie and Tarrega's other famous
tremolo work, Sueno. Maybe someone out there know's for sure.
I highly recommend the CD. It has a great recording of
Diabelli's Sonata in A major using Julian bream's fusion of two
different sonatas, and five Paganini Sonatas taken out of a book of 37
pieces he wrote for guitar. There are a few Giuliani pieces including
his La Folia Variations and a wild interpretation of the Grand
Overture which sadly to me is not as elegant (though it does have
tremendous power) as David Russell's recent recording of Giuliani
works. The Regondi Reverie performance is worth the price of the whole
CD so I'm happy, especially now that I've transferred the disc to my
shiny new Apple iPod that I bought at Macworld today. Dale plays a
guitar by Roland Scharbatke 9is anyone familiar with this maker?)
which I don't like as much as that Panhuyzen on her Toccata in Blue
CD, but it has a dark tone , immense bass and incredibly loud sound
coupled with Dale's strong playing. I'm wondering if the recording was
done in a very reverberant space or whether the reverb was added
later. Maybe someone out there with this CD and good ears can tell.

"Like A Patient Etherized Upon A Table" TS E from LSOJAP

PGS

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Jul 20, 2002, 10:32:53 AM7/20/02
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Good work, man! We got a REVIEW, some compare & contrast, AND some
LSOJAP by TS...

S.

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John Wasak

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Jul 20, 2002, 11:48:58 AM7/20/02
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GuitarPoet <guita...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Like A Patient Etherized Upon A Table" TS E from LSOJAP
>

Another tempting morsel of an appetizer!

Where's the Entree?


JW


John Wasak

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Jul 20, 2002, 11:53:42 AM7/20/02
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PGS wrote:
We got .......some
> LSOJAP by TS...
>
> S.

Some, as in - A grain of sand. Some, as in - The bottom brick of a ten-story
sand castle....that's what we got.

Where's the breadth of the wide-wide beach at low tide?..!


JW

PGS

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Jul 20, 2002, 2:52:09 PM7/20/02
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JW wrote:

> PGS wrote:
> We got .......some
> > LSOJAP by TS...
> >
> > S.
>
> Some, as in - A grain of sand. Some, as in - The bottom brick of a ten-story
> sand castle....that's what we got.
>
> Where's the breadth of the wide-wide beach at low tide?..!

Ah-hem! Here we go:

http://www.prufrock.org/poem/fulltext.html

S.

John Wasak

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Jul 20, 2002, 3:42:03 PM7/20/02
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PGS wrote:
> JW wrote:
>
> > PGS wrote:
> > We got .......some
> > > LSOJAP by TS...
> > >
> > > S.
> >
> > Some, as in - A grain of sand. Some, as in - The bottom brick of a
ten-story
> > sand castle....that's what we got.
> >
> > Where's the breadth of the wide-wide beach at low tide?..!
>
> Ah-hem! Here we go:
>
> http://www.prufrock.org/poem/fulltext.html
>
> S.
>

Good find! Nicely done. S. Nothing like full text!..well, except for
"fool" text ...but that's a different matter entirely!
;-)


JW

PGS

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Jul 20, 2002, 3:47:27 PM7/20/02
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JW wrote:

Indeed!!

GuitarPoet

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Jul 21, 2002, 1:25:38 AM7/21/02
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PGS <phillipsgu...@attbi.com> wrote in message news:<3D3971F2...@attbi.com>...

> Good work, man! We got a REVIEW, some compare & contrast, AND some
> LSOJAP by TS...

Thanks PGS, though I just noticed that TS E spells etherized with an
"S" like this: etherised. I bought the score to the Reverie today and
I was a bit mad because it isn't published individually, it's part of
a $30 volume of the complete concert works of Regondi. I played
through the piece a bit today and though it is a very hard piece, it
sounds harder and more impressive than it is to execute. Kinda like
VL's Prelude #1 in E minor. I think it's our version of a concert work
by Liszt or Chopin, really delightfully lyrical and passionate. It
would be silly do dismiss it as just another sweet tremolo piece, it's
far more than that. It is the guitar standing on par with the violin
but instead of sustaining the lyrical line with a bow we're using our
beloved tremolo, and our thumb is the accompanying harmony. This of
course is what the tremolo is all about, but it is realized in all its
glory in this lovely Reverie by Regondi.

"A woman drew her long black hair out tight
And fiddled whisper music on those strings"
TS E from TWL

hyz

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Jul 21, 2002, 9:11:47 AM7/21/02
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"Dale plays a guitar by Roland Scharbatke 9is anyone
familiar with this maker?)"

www.guitars-int.com sells Scharbatke, check the site
for more information about him. His name stuck
because I remember a brief write-up (2 pages) on him in
"Classical Guitar" magazine (June 2001), which featured
a picture of an exquisitely beautiful piece of wood and
his gorgeous headstock, complete with custom Rodgers
tuning machines.

Some information from the above-mentioned article
that's not in the guitars-int.com site :

Scharbatke lives in Iserlohn (same place that
the Amadeus Duo of Kirchhoff and Kavanagh reside).
A guitar maker for 20+ years, and before
that he was a carpenter for 16 years. Builds with
Torres-style fan bracing. About half his guitars end
up in Japan, and at high prices.

Regards,
hyz

Dick Grayson

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Jul 21, 2002, 9:31:00 AM7/21/02
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On 20 Jul 2002 22:25:38 -0700, guita...@hotmail.com (GuitarPoet)
wrote:

<snip>

> I bought the score to the Reverie today and
>I was a bit mad because it isn't published individually, it's part of
>a $30 volume of the complete concert works of Regondi.

My copy of the Op. 19 Reverie is by Edizioni Suvini Zerboni - Milano,
with Ruggero Chiesa editing, and was published individually.

Cheers

PGS

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Jul 21, 2002, 1:42:10 PM7/21/02
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Yes, those S's pop in there unexpectedly like when you are located in London for a spell....

Sounding harder is good, no??? Well, okay, I don't know. He-he. Unless that means it sounds
more impressive but isn't as involved as it sounds....Sounding hard, per se, is maybe
uncomfortable for the listener. I digress...

So sounds like it's a good piece to learn in order to work on tremolo; a gal will be rewarded,
in other words.

Uh-oh. More TS....If you can believe it, I just read The Waste Land for the first time this
year. That's a great excerpt to accompany your post, too, btw.

S.

GuitarPoet wrote:

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GuitarPoet

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Jul 21, 2002, 11:31:17 PM7/21/02
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hyz <a...@a.com> wrote in message news:<3D3AB313...@a.com>...


> www.guitars-int.com sells Scharbatke, check the site
> for more information about him. His name stuck
> because I remember a brief write-up (2 pages) on him in
> "Classical Guitar" magazine (June 2001), which featured
> a picture of an exquisitely beautiful piece of wood and
> his gorgeous headstock, complete with custom Rodgers
> tuning machines.


hyz

Thanks hyz you have a great memory-(Say do you know Rush's "yyz"? It
explores the "Devil in Music") I checked out the site and the
Scharbatke is going for the same price as the Panhuyzen (another great
guitar that Dale plays) about $7750. I'm gonna have to start buying
that daily lottery ticket.....Is there anyone out there who owns
either of these guitars? Would love to hear what you like about them.

regards,

GuitarPoet

hyz

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Jul 22, 2002, 10:42:36 AM7/22/02
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You're welcome GuitarPoet.
Don't know Rush's "yyz" though.
Good luck with the lottery :).

Regards,
hyz

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