looking for some heavily harmonic music

[sed]

Dear all,

I am sort of a noob with the répertoire, so I ask here.

I look for pieces that are rooted in the tonal system
(think: the 24 minor/major tones, tonic/dominant skeleton,
cadence, modulation, blabla).

I recently heard the Catedral of Barrios and I love the
1st movement (that then became the 2nd), labelled
"andante religioso". I consider it a nice attempt,
although way too short. (Yes, I learn the thing.
No, I won't record, I suck more than you, whoever
you are. And you don't care. And that's fine.)

I look for music primarily written for the guitar,
no adaptations (I am very guitar-nazi in my head)
(oh! I almost could survive in the Delcamp forums!).

Anyway, if you have some names to drop, feel free.

I am especially interested in music that moves
a lot harmonically speaking, that is with tons
of modulations, and also music that pushes and
pulls here and there in the tonal system (say:
smashes chords in weird ways), but stays in
the tonal system. I don't want joke music, like
the 4:33 silence thing of the other guy. I want
some real shit.

If you have links to some sheets on some random
servers (preferably not from Delcamp), throw them.

I like any period, it has to move a lot, so I guess
post-deaf guy, what was his name, I forgot. And
maybe post-romantic because those guys were, I
don't know, something. Maybe some alive people?
(Who would share their work with the world, because
music is like sex, it's way better when it's free.)
(As in "free beer" and "free speech".)

Thanks, enjoy your guitar.
Tonal music is not ded!

[Gerry]

On 2019-02-25 18:53:28 +0000, sed said:

> I look for pieces that are rooted in the tonal system

Okay: "Pretty music" then?

> I look for music primarily written for the guitar, no adaptations

Okay "primarily but no adaptations" leaves a little wiggle room, or a lot.

> I am especially interested in music that moves a lot harmonically
> speaking, that is with tons of modulations

Hmm, matrial with lots of key changes, huh? An interesting request!

> I like any period, it has to move a lot, so I guess post-deaf guy, what
> was his name, I forgot.

Beethoven died in 1827. So we can scratch all those compositions for
guitar prior to that time. Wow that's a lot of guitar lit...

> And maybe post-romantic because those guys were, I don't know, something.

They were indeed "something", of this there is no question. The third
wave of romantic composers died in a range of years from 1911 (Mahler)
to 1957 (Sibelius). So perhaps something post-1935-ish?

> Maybe some alive people?

Maybe, sure. You realize you're whittling your request for guitar
repertoire down very severely, right?

> (Who would share their work with the world, because music is like sex,
> it's way better when it's free.) (As in "free beer" and "free speech".)

Ah--and their compositions, clearly not yet within Public Domain, need
to be free anyway?

Dang--a tough request. No demands relative to the number vowels versus
consonants in the titles of the composition? Any quibbling about
tuning the D or A string down a whole step?

Hmm. Let me get back to you next year with some specifics...

> Thanks, enjoy your guitar.
> Tonal music is not ded!

It's not ded it's still alif!

[Steven Bornfeld]

This won't satisfy ALL your requirements. He IS of the romantic period.
And I don't know that you'll find scores free on line (or you may; I
haven't tried).
Look into the guitar music (he is best known for concertina) of Giulio
Regondi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ9k59rccaE

Steve

[sed]

On 2/25/19 9:08 PM, Gerry wrote:
> Ah--and their compositions, clearly not yet within Public Domain, need to be free anyway?

what's wrong with freedom?

What software do you use to read this message?
Some proprietary thing?

Do you have any idea about the infrastructure that
allows my madness to reach your brain?
Full of free software.
Had you to pay for this, communication between
you and me would not exist. At all. (And you
would not suffer my approximate grammar. And not
enjoy my perfect trolls.)

Freedom is good.

Why not write music and release it the same way
as free software is released, hum?

[sed]

Thanks for pointing me to this piece.
It's nice. I'll dig deeper into this
Italian dead guy.

Maybe to rephrase a bit, I would say I look for
pieces that are not too short (say more than 15 minutes
to play), with not much repetition inside, that is
the repetition signs, the dal signo al coda things,
and the like. The chaconna from Bach comes to mind
(but we don't move much, it's always the same chords
over and over again, just the form changes). I
also like the preludio 20 from Chopin, but frankly
on the guitar that sounds cheap compared to the
depth of the piano. That's why I thought maybe
something directly for the guitar would use it
to its best. (And we wouldn't have the comparison
of the piano.) (Unless some guitar-hating composer
would want to ridicule this tiny thing we dare
to love and make some piano version.) And there
again, from the harmony point of view, we don't
move much. But I understand that this aspect might
be hard to explain and won't pop any bubble into
your brains.

So: long pieces, with not much repetition.
More or less classical music. With lots of
harmonic content.

And no Sor, because I don't like Mozart.
(Well, I still can listen to the piece
and then let my brain enjoy it or not.)

[Gerry]

On 2019-02-27 18:14:23 +0000, sed said:

> On 2/25/19 9:08 PM, Gerry wrote:
>> Ah--and their compositions, clearly not yet within Public Domain, need
>> to be free anyway?
>
> what's wrong with freedom?

What's wrong with an artist being paid for his/her work?

> What software do you use to read this message?

Unison.

> Some proprietary thing?

Someone owns the code, once distributed the software commercially but
has now abandoned it and made it free for end-users.

> Do you have any idea about the infrastructure that
> allows my madness to reach your brain?
> Full of free software.
> Had you to pay for this, communication between
> you and me would not exist. At all. (And you
> would not suffer my approximate grammar. And not
> enjoy my perfect trolls.)
>
> Freedom is good.

All that blabber has nothing to do with freedom or music. I didn't
realize you were a troll.

> Why not write music and release it the same way
> as free software is released, hum?

Why don't coal miners work for free, or potato farmers? That too is a
conundrum you may have to work out over the course of your life.

[sed]

On 2/28/19 6:00 AM, Matt Faunce wrote:
> Try this Sonata by Angelo Gilardino, played by Cristiano Porqueddu. Here's
> the first movement:
> https://youtu.be/5EZbybZmN1g
>
> And this Fantasia-Sonata by Joan Manén, also played by Cristiano Porqueddu:
> https://youtu.be/FHgKK8_4luM
>
>
> Also explore the works by the composer, Nikita Koshkin:
>
> Merlin's Dream, played by Jørgen Skogmo:
> https://youtu.be/hrbKGnWQL-Q
>
> Piece with Clock, played by Natalya Rodionova:
> https://youtu.be/c6XREPYQeVg
>
> Prelude and Fugue in B Minor, played by Asya Selyutina:
> https://youtu.be/45-o8NxFIX0
>
> Prelude and Fugue in A Major, played by Asya Selyutina:
> https://youtu.be/YDxYmhze5Do

Thanks for these pointers, very interesting.

I think the piece with clock is bit too hardcore for me though!

That will give me some interesting hours of work, thanks.

[sed]

On 5/5/19 8:27 PM, Matt Faunce wrote:

> Maybe Richard Yates will transcribe some pieces by Lili Boulanger. That
> would be awesome!

What pieces do you think about, just out of curiosity?

[sed]

On 6/10/19 1:54 AM, Matt Faunce wrote:
> Sed,
>
> Another piece to consider is Le Canzoni dell'Acqua, Sonatina for guitar, by
> Mark Delpriora.
>

Matt,

thanks for pointing to this. Nice music indeed.